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Moore's Sicko gets early Internet leak

16 June 2007 17:12 by James "Dela" Delahunty | 85 comments

Moore's Sicko gets early Internet leak We rarely report about early movie leaks on the Internet unless there is some significance to it other than piracy. Examples would be the outrage when Star Wars Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith leaked early and was a main reason for "Operation D-Elite".

Another example is how rampant piracy of Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 caused news outlets to report about a video of Moore explaining he is happy that his movies, books and TV shows are shared as long as its not for profit, and does not really agree with copyright laws.

However, Fahrenheit 9/11 was being shared heavily on the Internet "after" its theatrical release. This time around, a copy of Moore's highly-anticipated "Sicko" movie is being snatched up by thousands of pirates well ahead of its June 29th release date. What makes this interesting is how Moore's personal views on file sharing and copyright applies to such an early leak.

Of course, this could be exactly what Sicko needs and might not even be accidental. If you have been following the news, you know that the U.S. Government is investigating a trip Moore took to Cuba with workers from the World Trade Center site so they could receive health care they could not get at home. There was speculation that Sicko could have been "impounded" by the federal government due to the Cuba issue - so much so that Moore found it a necessity to stash a copy of the movie in Canada.

Sicko takes a critical look at the U.S. health care system. Moore has been praised by critics (achieving a several-minute-long standing ovation at Cannes), many of whom disliked the political bias in Moore's earlier work.

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clamUp (Newbie) 20 June 2007 7:24 Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by clamup:
Actually the thread is, "Moore's Sicko gets early Internet leak" from which the thread varied to state that people die from lack of treatment. If you're not dead from lack of treatment and using yourself as an example, as is the case, you're changing the subject and trying to suck me in to say that I disagree with you.
You were the one accusing. I'm over it all, i didnt even care about you or your points before you started pissing me off with your attitude towards gerry.

Lmao, temper temper now. Noone likes malice. Lets just see how long you last around here, before you start attacking peoples IQ yeh?.
Someone mentioned that people die from lack of treatment in hospitals. In my experience, which really is all I have, that's not the case. And that's all I was talking about.

Gerry replies to my post and changes the isolated incidents from occurrences in hospitals, to his own post-hospital care, implying that I think health care once beyond the hospital is in a wonderful state, which I don't. I said, "Hey, wait a second. I didn't say that. That's not what I'm saying at all." He misconstrued what I was saying, whether intentional or not. Hence, the "sucking me in" response. Which part of this are you claiming is untrue?

If you're letting a message board get you pissed off, then, wow, you really need to loosen your shirt and take a break. You're the only one with an attitude.

You're the third or fourth poster to misread what I've said, yet I'm nowhere close to pissed off. Never have been. I'm just trying to get people to read what I've said and not put their own twist on it. You get upset over something you imagined happened which doesn't involve you. Since I'm not allowed to react the way you do, I never will. If you want to keep playing site bully, that's perfectly fine. I can hold my own.

Originally posted by billybob:
wise guy

Originally posted by clamUp:
genius
Pot

Kettle

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20 June 2007 7:46

billybob (Senior Member) 20 June 2007 10:49 Send private message to this user   
Ok i dont even care enough to read ur little essay.

However,
Originally posted by ME:


Lmao, temper temper now. Noone likes malice.
Lets just see how long you last around here, before you start attacking peoples IQ yeh?.
So thats getting pissed off by a message board is it? Haha, im far from it dude.

ooo and u call me a site bully? Im touched.



Thanks ireland! :D
clamUp (Newbie) 20 June 2007 15:33 Send private message to this user   
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So thats getting pissed off by a message board is it?
Clearly.
Originally posted by billybob:
i didnt even care about you or your points before you started pissing me off with your attitude towards gerry
Far be it from me to read what you said and respond accordingly.

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Haha, im far from it dude.
You certainly had me fooled.

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ooo and u call me a site bully? Im touched.
You're just not going to play nice, are you? I haven't seen this kind of blind hatred since junior high school.

Since your attention span virtually ensures that you're not going to bother reading any of this anyway, I guess it'll fall on deaf ears to point out that I agreed with your friend, Gerry.

I guess you feel Gerry needs for you to defend his honor or something and can't make his own points by himself. I really have absolutely nothing against Gerry and I really don't see where you fit in with all this.

I have absolutely no idea what your beef with me is. Whatever it is, you don't seem to want to let it go. How about starting all over again and explain exactly what it is you're upset about now?

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billybob (Senior Member) 20 June 2007 15:55 Send private message to this user   
Go away! Jesus.



Thanks ireland! :D
clamUp (Newbie) 20 June 2007 18:42 Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by billybob:
Go away! Jesus.
That's what you should've done about six posts ago.
billybob (Senior Member) 20 June 2007 22:47 Send private message to this user   
You just dont shut up do you?



Thanks ireland! :D
ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 21 June 2007 0:01 Send private message to this user   
childern play nice >>



FIGHT THE M.A.F.I.A.A.
clamUp (Newbie) 21 June 2007 7:02 Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by billybob:
You just dont shut up do you?
I'll try this again. What are you so pissed about that keeps you from getting off my back? I want you to show me exactly why you're hounding me like I just ran over your dog.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 21 June 2007 7:06

clamUp (Newbie) 21 June 2007 7:21 Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:
childern play nice >>
Hi ZIppy.

I've shown billybob a lot more patience than than he's shown me, but I'll play as nice as he'll let me.
borhan9 (AfterDawn Addict) 21 June 2007 17:21 Send private message to this user   
I would love to see this documentry that Michael Moore has created.

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so much so that Moore found it a necessity to stash a copy of the movie in Canada.
The fact that he has moved copies to Canada explain a lot :)
AUDIOMIND (Junior Member) 21 June 2007 22:35 Send private message to this user   
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billybob (Senior Member) 21 June 2007 23:34 Send private message to this user   
You dont get the picture do you? I wasnt gonna go this far, but if u really wanna know i just plain dont like your attitude. Seem very arogant too.

Unsubscribed.



Thanks ireland! :D
ChiknLitl (Member) 22 June 2007 5:00 Send private message to this user   
How did Moore get himself and others to Cuba in the first place? Does he have dual citizenship?
eatsushi (Senior Member) 22 June 2007 7:04 Send private message to this user   
Sad to say but this film, like his previous efforts, will make a lot of noise at first but likely will just fizzle out in the end.

His Bowling for Columbine hardly made a dent in the NRA's and the gun lobby's powerful political machine.

His Fahrenheit 911 did not make John Kerry president.

This film will suffer the same fate. Big money HMO's and big money pharmaceuticals have too much influence. Clinton had 2 terms to do something but he failed miserably. It doesn't matter if Hillary gets a second chance in '08 or whoever gets elected next. Nothing will be done.

I'll bet MM takes on global warming next.

Oops, my mistake - Gore beat him to it!
clamUp (Newbie) 22 June 2007 14:32 Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by billybob:
You dont get the picture do you? I wasnt gonna go this far, but if u really wanna know i just plain dont like your attitude. Seem very arogant too.
I'm trying to do two things.

1. Clarify points that were misunderstood by others, and

2. Get you off my back.

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Unsubscribed.
I'm not sure about the first one, but I think the second one just took care of itself. As far as you perceiving me to be arrogant, you took that moniker with the line:
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Lets just see how long you last around here, before you start attacking peoples IQ yeh?
That's what really kept me around. You needed to see that that's not what I'm about.

You've jumped into a discussion which didn't concern you. You've shown me verbal hostility, badgered me with no real point, and then wondered why you don't like my attitude.

This was a fine welcome to the board. Fine welcome. Thanks.

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billybob (Senior Member) 22 June 2007 14:38 Send private message to this user   
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fine welcome
Repitition?

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2. Get you off my back.

^^^

Then just shut the hell up?



p.s i did unsubscribe, but i looked at this thread anyway. Just be quiet? please?



Thanks ireland! :D
clamUp (Newbie) 22 June 2007 15:12 Send private message to this user   
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Then just shut the hell up?
Fine. Although it was in response to your remark toward me (wise guy), I apologize for referring to you in a derogatory manner (genius) earlier.

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i just plain dont like your attitude. Seem very arogant too.
I'm also sorry that you feel this way. I should have ignored your initial hostility with me and again I apologize.

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billybob (Senior Member) 22 June 2007 15:13 Send private message to this user   
no problem, much better.
DVDBack23 (Staff Member) 23 June 2007 9:44 Send private message to this user   
BACK ON TOPIC PLEASE and please stop bickering.

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billybob (Senior Member) 23 June 2007 13:34 Send private message to this user   
Sorry sir
tommyg109 (Inactive) 25 June 2007 13:54 Send private message to this user   
There is no such language as American-English so watch closely as I correctly spell a..p..o..l..o..g..i..S..e.
tommyg109 (Inactive) 25 June 2007 14:02 Send private message to this user   
Come on clamUp, you seem the intellectual type. Lets have it!
billybob (Senior Member) 25 June 2007 15:05 Send private message to this user   
Thanks tommy :)
clamUp (Newbie) 25 June 2007 19:56 Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by tommyg109:
Come on clamUp, you seem the intellectual type. Lets have it!
Baiting me, eh?

All right.

You forgot the apostrophe in the contraction, Let's. If you want, go ahead and wipe out the established rules of grammar for an entire nation. See if I care. ;^)

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edsrouter (Newbie) 25 June 2007 23:46 Send private message to this user   
I agree with "eatsushi". Sad but Michael Moore has been way too over-demonized by right-wing radio, Bill O'Reilly, and Fox News in general. Still this is a landmark film. Better than Bowling For Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11, but right behind Roger and Me. One thing is for sure about Moore, he makes the best documentaries. Just phenomenal.
ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 26 June 2007 6:28 Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by edsrouter:
I agree with "eatsushi". Sad but Michael Moore has been way too over-demonized by right-wing radio, Bill O'Reilly, and Fox News in general. Still this is a landmark film. Better than Bowling For Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11, but right behind Roger and Me. One thing is for sure about Moore, he makes the best documentaries. Just phenomenal.
I dunno I feel he dose not do "documentaries" but then again slanted propaganda falls under documentaries so I guess it dose in a sense....hes a bit one sided and loves spinning things in the direction he sees fit...to me real documentaries are neutral....
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