The MPAA acts so damn desperate it's really pathetic...I don't even think the FBI is this damn desperate to catch terrorist here in the US!

See this is what is known as entrapment, anyone who would be tried from this would easily get off. Also they should be the one's facing a lawsuit, didn't new york pass some law that you can not knowingly put a virus or trojan on a computer.

Time to sue the MPAA

i cant wait to see a lawsuit here down with the MPAA.....

o.....k,

so let me get this straight, now instead of putting rootkits on people's computers, they are now putting trojan horses. huh, man, what lengths people want go to.

lmao...jesus, they are just itching to get sued, and we remember what happened against sony, not only was it widespread on the internet level, but it was even on the news...well, there goes their stock, right out the window. hope they are happy now :)

THIS IS WAR!

They own the government, we are the NERDS!

(And one reason I personally do my nefarious with Linux.)

Two quick points to make....

1. Besides the obvious entrapment issues, does this not also qualify as illegal search and seizure by a non-law enforement agency, rendering any "evidence" they might gather as inadmissable in court?

2. By masking a trojan horse in a program like this, whether it causes damage or not, does that also not violate the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act and legally open the door to sue the MPAA?

An easy fix quickly make a sub divesion to the MPAA and call it VPAA= Video Producer Accosots of Amarica

Check this link and pay attention to line item #5...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Fr...d_and_Abuse_Act



A more detailed viewing of the CFaA Act....

http://www.panix.com/~eck/computer-fraud-act.html

YOur point with the legel stuff

Isn't that illegal under invasion of privacy?

EDIT- NVM, someone else brought that up already.

Well this is a very interesting argument.

According to the 4th amendment "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

In regards to what the MPAA have done upon reading the 4th amendment, their tactic is entrapment. They are trying to lead the sheep to the slaughter so to speak. They must have permission to enter into personal property with probable cause.

Check this out: “Any person who suffers damage or loss by reason of a
violation of this section may maintain a civil action against the violator to obtain
compensatory damages and injunctive relief or other equitable relief.” 18 U.S.C.
§1030(g)." You can find this at:

http://webcasts.acca.com/handouts/Protec..._Under_CFAA.pdf

I also recommend:

http://www.cybercrime.gov/index.html

Know to how may countries this applies to, I can't say, but as I am an American, this is how a lot of this (if not all) applies to us.


Hope this helps some understand. Weirdo007, i like your posts...good insight..


later;

The Unknown.....

That is so weak... They should be punished for doing things like that.

this is illegal right? If its not it should be.

Kmon guys. Why do people have a problem with spending 6$ for a popcorn, 3$ for a drink, and 18$ for two tickets to a crappy movie when you can download it for free, watch it at home, and delete it from the hard drive after you realize you saved a lot of money but wasted 2 hours of your life that you will never get back.

Enough of the crappy sequals, come up with some original stuff hollywood!

Typical, bunch of gangsters who think they can do anything they like.

I just hope enough people club together to toast their worthless greedy asses in court someday using the only language those bas*ards understand, criminal convictions with massive fines and jailtime.

they just need to get a life

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this is illegal right? If its not it should be.

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Of course it is. They prosecute hackers for doing the same thing. The only difference is that this time the general public is the target rather than big businesses so you won't see the federal government giving a crap.

flakmnkey it is not entrapment because you know what you are doing is wrong and against the law, also make sure you are using peer guairden and it is updated, another ting if you keep your virus protection up to date you should be able to catch it before anything bad happens, i think one site cald moviex or something like that, is one of the sites, i will find out and get back on this, stay away from this site http://www.moviex.eu.tf/

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Zeropaid discovered the site was a front after doing a Whois search on the site that revealed it was owned by MediaDefender, a company the MPAA uses due to its specialty in anti-piracy "solutions."

The application is really a Trojan horse that scans your hard drive looking for pirated content and then reports back to MediaDefender which gives the information to the MPAA.

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So after we know this now can we sue the MPAA for invasion of privacy. A civil action would be good to go in numbers and bring these drop kicks to justice.

A google sponsored ad I have on my screen right now while reading afterdawn.com hosted article:

Piracy Complaint?
Earn up to $1 Million for Reporting Pirated Software - All Confidential
bsa.org/reportpiracy




wow...I've seen a ton of hypocrites on here weiging in on what constitutes piracy and what does not, but this ad definitly takes the cake....

Can't afterdawn.com choose what type of ads google places on their pimped out-pages or was that done for hilarities sake?

Company Steals Software?
Earn up to $1 Million for Reporting Pirated Software - All Confidential
bsa.org/reportpiracy



oh lookie! Now they want us to rat out our place of employment that already does not pay us enough to purchase legal copies of mediocre movies and one-hit cds! woo hoo! where do I sign up?
Heck! I could buy alot of crappy legal movies and cds with 1 million "confidential' dollars.

In fact,..I think I just may have the guy they are looking for....hehehehehe..

Mhhmm Hey if the trojen reports back to mpaa think we can bust into there systems By disassembling it and send it back to em just the othere way around sends us the information of all there illiagle copies of ms word ahchool 120 and nero And movies

I know this is somewhat Old News BUT if in fact there was a Virus or trogan that did what some claim, MediaDefender has taken action in Multi Federal Crimes.

Knowingly causing the transmission of a program, information, code, or command that causes damage or intentionally accessing a computer without authorization, and as a result of such conduct, causes damage that results in:

That means if 5000 people used the site, thats 5000 charges against them. With some of the new Corporate laws you could actually go after Corporate Officers in addition to the actual Corporation.

Im sure no one will go after them as the information then could be used against you for Copyright Violations. Throwing even that aside we all know that only about 10% of people who complain about an issue end up doing anything about it.

It would make for a great Court Case so if anyone does take action against MediaDefender I want front row seats. Ummm yes PB has started action against them but I dont think it will make it to U.S. Courts.

A while back, I heard of this Canadian kid who was able to break into the FBI's computers,and cause major havoc before he was caught. There was another who got into some major banks' machine and wandered about, looking for god knows what.

Just wondering. The MPAA has computers, right?

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A while back, I heard of this Canadian kid who was able to break into the FBI's computers,and cause major havoc before he was caught. There was another who got into some major banks' machine and wandered about, looking for god knows what.

Just wondering. The MPAA has computers, right?

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No actually. You see, they still use those Chinese calculator things which is how they always end up with largely overestimated "losses" from piracy. They are so afraid of technology that they are on a campaign to stop technology altogether, starting with P2P.

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A while back, I heard of this Canadian kid who was able to break into the FBI's computers,and cause major havoc before he was caught. There was another who got into some major banks' machine and wandered about, looking for god knows what.

Just wondering. The MPAA has computers, right?

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No actually. You see, they still use those Chinese calculator things which is how they always end up with largely overestimated "losses" from piracy. They are so afraid of technology that they are on a campaign to stop technology altogether, starting with P2P.

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LMAO!

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