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CRIA threats lead to shutdown of Demonoid site

9 November 2007 10:29 by Rich "vurbal" Fiscus | 90 comments

CRIA threats lead to shutdown of Demonoid site Visitors to BitTorrent Tracker site Demonoid.com over the last several hours have been greeted by the following message:

"The CRIA threatened the company renting the servers to us, and because of this it is not possible to keep the site online. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your understanding."

In September the site was forced to move its servers to Canada from The Netherlands, where they were under attack from Dutch copyright enfocement agency BREIN. Since that time, the Canadian equivalent to the RIAA, the Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA) has been working to have the servers shut down. In September the site was down for a week, and when they returned they no longer accepted connections from Canadian users.

Source: Demonoid

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    varnull (Inactive) 11 November 2007 9:17 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    individuals downloading music that is not available in stores
    That's me..

    All these US idiots will do is push generally law abiding people into the darkside of the internet.. inhabited by the extremists, terrorists and real criminals.. I hope they learn when we all have access to bomb making data, and how to set up terrorist cells listed right next to music files.

    I'm a little upset that I sent a few $$'s to a certain person who as it looks now has done a runner under pressure from the a$$holes.. (waiting to see developments before saying more.. I believe our friend will get something going again in the future.. I can understand not wanting to relocate again)
    I'm sure there are plenty of servers for rent in North Korea, Iran and China where the RIAA and the rest haven't got a hope of touching them, and that would certainly give the anti west governments some satisfaction.

    The USA doesn't own the world.. Sooner they get a real good kicking the better.
    reuven25 (Newbie) 11 November 2007 9:39 Send private message to this user   
    That is exactly the point I want to make,if certain music or movie is no longer on sale or available from the companies,is there still a valid copyright?
    DXR88 (Senior Member) 11 November 2007 10:03 Send private message to this user   
    i foresee a giant ship with a giant demonnoid logo stamped to the side. demonnoid will not go anywere anytime soon.
    35tony (Inactive) 11 November 2007 10:05 Send private message to this user   
    O.K. its Nov.11/07 and NO Demonoid yet! Whether it be the CRIA or RIAA really makes no difference. They obviously have more power then their respective Govts. The only thing to do is hit them were it hurts, IN THEIR POCKETS[b][/b]. I suggest a North American boycott against the recording industries. It should be organized soon though, because Christmas is just around the corner.
    DXR88 (Senior Member) 11 November 2007 19:57 Send private message to this user   
    boycott all you want its pointless. you not hurting the riaa by it.
    what we need is a rent-a-terrorist service hire a group and send him in to riaa headquarter and kill all the top executivs. there rich im sure there wives in children wont care if there dad or husbands die.
    as long as the get there cut of his money
    dpkchrome (Newbie) 11 November 2007 22:08 Send private message to this user   
    Okay, well after reading all of those comments and being a die hard Demonoid member, I had to give AfterDawn my two cents.

    Demonoid is my homepage. I would wake up to see how good my ratio has increased because that is basically my way of showing Demonoid how much I really care about the site.

    Take all the torrent sites you want; torrentreactor.net, tpb.com, mininova.org, NOTHING will even compare to Demonoid. Why? Demonoid started as a worldwide creation that eventually evolved into every country in the world. Look @ Demonoid! There isn't a THING you cannot find on Demonoid. Album's, movie's, programs, WHATEVER. I think that is definitely one of the biggest reasons everyone turns to Demonoid prior to any other torrent site.

    ..Also as I said above, I loved lookin' @ my ratio to see how much better it got. I believe that is one of the many reasons that people turn to Demonoid because a lot of other torrent sites don't show you how much you share/seed. Why do you think on TPB there are like 1500 leechers and "200" seeders? There is no ratio! No one can show others just how much they have been sharing! Also Demonoid never tolerated bogus torrents or torrents that were infected. That's what I LOVED about Demonoid.

    Will Demonoid be back? Only the Deimos know. My personal opinion, until they move those servers to a country that doesn't give a damn about copyright laws, Demonoid will see it's demise.

    Long live Demonoid!
    vinny13 (Inactive) 12 November 2007 0:25 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by dpkchrome:
    Okay, well after reading all of those comments and being a die hard Demonoid member, I had to give AfterDawn my two cents.

    Demonoid is my homepage. I would wake up to see how good my ratio has increased because that is basically my way of showing Demonoid how much I really care about the site.

    Take all the torrent sites you want; torrentreactor.net, tpb.com, mininova.org, NOTHING will even compare to Demonoid. Why? Demonoid started as a worldwide creation that eventually evolved into every country in the world. Look @ Demonoid! There isn't a THING you cannot find on Demonoid. Album's, movie's, programs, WHATEVER. I think that is definitely one of the biggest reasons everyone turns to Demonoid prior to any other torrent site.

    ..Also as I said above, I loved lookin' @ my ratio to see how much better it got. I believe that is one of the many reasons that people turn to Demonoid because a lot of other torrent sites don't show you how much you share/seed. Why do you think on TPB there are like 1500 leechers and "200" seeders? There is no ratio! No one can show others just how much they have been sharing! Also Demonoid never tolerated bogus torrents or torrents that were infected. That's what I LOVED about Demonoid.

    Will Demonoid be back? Only the Deimos know. My personal opinion, until they move those servers to a country that doesn't give a damn about copyright laws, Demonoid will see it's demise.

    Long live Demonoid!
    Ya man, I checked every site for this movie form 1972, and only Demonoid had it! And there was a seeder! Crazy!
    07anto07 (AfterDawn Addict) 12 November 2007 4:10 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by reuven25:
    That is exactly the point I want to make,if certain music or movie is no longer on sale or available from the companies,is there still a valid copyright?

    The length of copyright protection depends on several factors: when the work was created, who created the work, and when the work was first distributed commercially. For works created on and after January 1, 1978, the copyright term for works created by an individual is the life of the author plus 50 years. The term of the copyright for "works for hire" is 75 years from the date of first "publication" (distribution of copies to the general public) or 100 years from the date of creation, whichever expires first.


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    07anto07 (AfterDawn Addict) 12 November 2007 4:14 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by 07anto07:
    Originally posted by reuven25:
    That is exactly the point I want to make,if certain music or movie is no longer on sale or available from the companies,is there still a valid copyright?

    The length of copyright protection depends on several factors: when the work was created, who created the work, and when the work was first distributed commercially. For works created on and after January 1, 1978, the copyright term for works created by an individual is the life of the author plus 50 years. The term of the copyright for "works for hire" is 75 years from the date of first "publication" (distribution of copies to the general public) or 100 years from the date of creation, whichever expires first.
    i love demonoid too lot's of file's movie and music to share wish it was back.

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    reuven25 (Newbie) 12 November 2007 5:58 Send private message to this user   
    Yes I understand, but cannot the copyright be challenged,if after the work has been on sale for a certain period of time, the owners refuse to sell any more copies.? It is very interesting that this point has not been raised in a court of law!
    07anto07 (AfterDawn Addict) 12 November 2007 7:10 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by reuven25:
    Yes I understand, but cannot the copyright be challenged,if after the work has been on sale for a certain period of time, the owners refuse to sell any more copies.? It is very interesting that this point has not been raised in a court of law!
    i agree

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    Ethrieltd (Junior Member) 12 November 2007 15:03 Send private message to this user   
    ...why are people taking issue with demonoid and/or demios..

    ...it patently says that it was an issue with the host that caused the site to go down, ie... the hosting company was threatened and complied with the treat and took the site down.

    ..or alternativley demonoid took the site down BEFORE the host did in order to avoid a seziure of the servers and the loss of subscriber data.

    ..i have a feeling it will be back too as soon as alternate arrangements can be maade...
    DXR88 (Senior Member) 12 November 2007 15:09 Send private message to this user   
    No because when you put a patent on it it becomes govt. property think about it ninty nine percent of people dont pay patent tax's
    and if you released you work to RIAA or The MPAA they own your work they can copyright it as long as they wish, by doing the following for instance Elvis presley christmas music they then extend there copyright laws for his music.

    the RIAA is A Plage that stops younger generations of people from listing to once great artist
    varnull (Inactive) 13 November 2007 7:31 Send private message to this user   
    No issue with Demios here.. It's up to him what he does with his site.. It's the same for any site owner..

    Sites come and go, It happens I'm a member of more than one torrent site anyway. You would be surprised what a different place TPB is when you have member rights.
    wattford (Newbie) 13 November 2007 23:24 Send private message to this user   
    Well demonoid was already (supposedly) unavailable to Canadian users since the last time it came back, so what the *bleep*. Why does the CRIA have such a *bleep* problem with this *bleep*, like whose going to pirate Canadian music anyway. I'm making the assumption that my fellow pirates are not the kind of people who download Avril Lavigne.

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 17 November 2007 13:02

    vinny13 (Inactive) 14 November 2007 16:46 Send private message to this user   
    They download Alexisonfire and Billy Talent...



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    wattford (Newbie) 14 November 2007 22:01 Send private message to this user   
    Who?
    VespaPx (Newbie) 16 November 2007 7:43 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by dpkchrome:
    Okay, well after reading all of those comments and being a die hard Demonoid member, I had to give AfterDawn my two cents.

    Demonoid is my homepage. I would wake up to see how good my ratio has increased because that is basically my way of showing Demonoid how much I really care about the site.

    Take all the torrent sites you want; torrentreactor.net, tpb.com, mininova.org, NOTHING will even compare to Demonoid. Why? Demonoid started as a worldwide creation that eventually evolved into every country in the world. Look @ Demonoid! There isn't a THING you cannot find on Demonoid. Album's, movie's, programs, WHATEVER. I think that is definitely one of the biggest reasons everyone turns to Demonoid prior to any other torrent site.

    ..Also as I said above, I loved lookin' @ my ratio to see how much better it got. I believe that is one of the many reasons that people turn to Demonoid because a lot of other torrent sites don't show you how much you share/seed. Why do you think on TPB there are like 1500 leechers and "200" seeders? There is no ratio! No one can show others just how much they have been sharing! Also Demonoid never tolerated bogus torrents or torrents that were infected. That's what I LOVED about Demonoid.

    Will Demonoid be back? Only the Deimos know. My personal opinion, until they move those servers to a country that doesn't give a damn about copyright laws, Demonoid will see it's demise.

    Long live Demonoid!


    green vespa
    VespaPx (Newbie) 16 November 2007 7:47 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by VespaPx:
    Originally posted by dpkchrome:
    Okay, well after reading all of those comments and being a die hard Demonoid member, I had to give AfterDawn my two cents.

    Demonoid is my homepage. I would wake up to see how good my ratio has increased because that is basically my way of showing Demonoid how much I really care about the site.

    Take all the torrent sites you want; torrentreactor.net, tpb.com, mininova.org, NOTHING will even compare to Demonoid. Why? Demonoid started as a worldwide creation that eventually evolved into every country in the world. Look @ Demonoid! There isn't a THING you cannot find on Demonoid. Album's, movie's, programs, WHATEVER. I think that is definitely one of the biggest reasons everyone turns to Demonoid prior to any other torrent site.

    ..Also as I said above, I loved lookin' @ my ratio to see how much better it got. I believe that is one of the many reasons that people turn to Demonoid because a lot of other torrent sites don't show you how much you share/seed. Why do you think on TPB there are like 1500 leechers and "200" seeders? There is no ratio! No one can show others just how much they have been sharing! Also Demonoid never tolerated bogus torrents or torrents that were infected. That's what I LOVED about Demonoid.

    Will Demonoid be back? Only the Deimos know. My personal opinion, until they move those servers to a country that doesn't give a damn about copyright laws, Demonoid will see it's demise.

    Long live Demonoid!

    Amen Brother! I feel ya big time on this one!!!!

    green vespa
    lavet (Junior Member) 16 November 2007 13:40 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by reuven25:
    That is exactly the point I want to make,if certain music or movie is no longer on sale or available from the companies,is there still a valid copyright?
    Quote:
    Thats true, if they have lets say a TV show that has not come one DVD. Is this still stealing or pirating? If someone uploads last nights 1980 TV show and uploads it. Why can't that be allowed. If they are not going to put them for sale. Let other people have them this way.
    wattford (Newbie) 17 November 2007 3:29 Send private message to this user   
    Anyway for those of you who haven't seen this yet, theres a forum up now to keep the community together in the mean time.
    dEEz_nUtz (Senior Member) 17 November 2007 14:49 Send private message to this user   
    The forum can be found HERE I believe you can use your Demonoid login credentials to access these forums.
    HERE is the link for the other Demonoid refugee forum...You will need to register to view the forums.




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    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 17 November 2007 15:00

    borhan9 (AfterDawn Addict) 30 November 2007 1:05 Send private message to this user   
    Why dont they just link to tpb and all their problems will be no more.
    VespaPx (Newbie) 3 May 2008 16:30 Send private message to this user   
    Yo, this thread is dead and demonoid has been back online for months. So i recommend to close this?

    greenvespa
    creaky (Moderator) 3 May 2008 16:33 Send private message to this user   
    i'll leave that up to Vurbal, as he started this topic..
    iluvendo (AfterDawn Addict) 3 May 2008 23:13 Send private message to this user   
    I like this thread, it's Demonoid getting the last laugh over the Riaa

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