You blu-ray supporters must love Sony DRM. You know the studios went blu-ray because of BD+. They must be in denial about AnyDVD and it's ability to backup a BD+ title.

where's that hugejar or whatever his user name? the dude's constant hd-dvd posts got me into buying the hd-dvd add-on for the X360. i blame that fool/smartypant :(

i already got Transformers on hd-dvd, which shouldn't have if they didn't go hd-dvd exclusive (it was on my BD must list).

On the bright side, i don't have that many hd-dvds, four on hand and five in the rebate process.

Speaking of the free hd-dvds from the rebate, am i screwed? even though i don't care for them anymore, but i still want them (hey, it's free hd-dvds we're talking about here).

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You blu-ray supporters must love Sony DRM. You know the studios went blu-ray because of BD+. They must be in denial about AnyDVD and it's ability to backup a BD+ title.

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Honestly? No, i don't like DRM or whatever Sony is trying to pull. However judging from the current life style (i.e. not a student anymore and don't have much free times), i don't do movies backups anymore, it's a thing in the past :) Selfish, but yeah, i realized i wasted good amount of time backing up movies i don't even watch (the original dvds are gathering dust too) not to mention the "older" dvd media are not playable right now (cheap blank discs to begin with), i don't give a damn anymore. Besides, backing up BDs can be a bitch... translation, more time consuming that backing up dvds, i rather actually watch a movie or play games :)

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where's that hugejar or whatever his user name? the dude's constant hd-dvd posts got me into buying the hd-dvd add-on for the X360. i blame that fool/smartypant :(

i already got Transformers on hd-dvd, which shouldn't have if they didn't go hd-dvd exclusive (it was on my BD must list).

On the bright side, i don't have that many hd-dvds, four on hand and five in the rebate process.

Speaking of the free hd-dvds from the rebate, am i screwed? even though i don't care for them anymore, but i still want them (hey, it's free hd-dvds we're talking about here).

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You should blame him, for giving you false hopes for a format that is inferior to Blu-ray. All he can talk about now is the DRM issue.

Blu-ray has won the format war!!!

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uh oh. here we go again with the sony is evil, drm, i bet sony is trying to pay off paramount too, yadda yadda yadda...

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Sony is evil. As is M$. All corporations are evil. It's just a matter of picking the lesser of the two in this case.

This sounds like a golf course handshake to me.

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personally, i don't understand why people can't get this idea.

Sony is evil! Sony is the devil! Hello? it's not news... If it's not BD, then it's hd-dvd, just that a different evil wins (i know, people gonna say, but yeah, one is less evil than the other). Now, as to the lesser evil, i don't even know you can actually determine that...

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where's that hugejar or whatever his user name? the dude's constant hd-dvd posts got me into buying the hd-dvd add-on for the X360. i blame that fool/smartypant :(

i already got Transformers on hd-dvd, which shouldn't have if they didn't go hd-dvd exclusive (it was on my BD must list).

On the bright side, i don't have that many hd-dvds, four on hand and five in the rebate process.

Speaking of the free hd-dvds from the rebate, am i screwed? even though i don't care for them anymore, but i still want them (hey, it's free hd-dvds we're talking about here).

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Tried to warm as many people as i could provided nothing but facts & not my opinions.He was mixing his opinions with info & thinking that it was actually true but ignored the facts.I'm sorry you wasted your money but if you looked at the HD numbers since Jan of last year until now you would've knew the truth & not that distraction from the truth.

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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:

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where's that hugejar or whatever his user name? the dude's constant hd-dvd posts got me into buying the hd-dvd add-on for the X360. i blame that fool/smartypant :(

i already got Transformers on hd-dvd, which shouldn't have if they didn't go hd-dvd exclusive (it was on my BD must list).

On the bright side, i don't have that many hd-dvds, four on hand and five in the rebate process.

Speaking of the free hd-dvds from the rebate, am i screwed? even though i don't care for them anymore, but i still want them (hey, it's free hd-dvds we're talking about here).

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Tried to warm as many people as i could provided nothing but facts & not my opinions.He was mixing his opinions with info & thinking that it was actually true but ignored the facts.I'm sorry you wasted your money but if you looked at the HD numbers since Jan of last year until now you would've knew the truth & not that distraction from the truth.

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I totally agree with you. He was very convincing to many, he must have a greater stake in the HDDVD format than he made himself out to have. I guess we won't be hearing much from him anymore.

Im still ready to get flamed, but I still think that it is Universal that is about to swap. They have not said anything or given their new HD DVD release schedule. I dont think that we will get to see Paramont on Blu anytime soon.

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Besides, backing up BDs can be a bitch... translation, more time consuming that backing up dvds, i rather actually watch a movie or play games :)

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Um....what?!

I downloaded Star Wars in 1080p which was about 16 gigs. Took kindly to two dual layer Verbatims, burned at 4x speed and played back flawlessly on my core 2 pc. Wasnt any hassle at all.

Same with Bugs Life posted recently in the hdtv newsgroup. 13 gigs, backed up on 2 dual layers..NO TIME AT ALL! :)

The picture quality/color in Bugs life was light years sharper and more detailed than the collectors edition dvd I have.

I have over 150 hd movies, most on Verbatims..and with 3TB drives coming out in 2 years, we will soon see them in the $130 dollar range. Much better double clicking on a movie in my hdtv folder than fishing through my disc collection.

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Besides, backing up BDs can be a bitch... translation, more time consuming that backing up dvds, i rather actually watch a movie or play games :)

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Um....what?!

I downloaded Star Wars in 1080p which was about 16 gigs. Took kindly to two dual layer Verbatims, burned at 4x speed and played back flawlessly on my core 2 pc. Wasnt any hassle at all.

Same with Bugs Life posted recently in the hdtv newsgroup. 13 gigs, backed up on 2 dual layers..NO TIME AT ALL! :)

The picture quality/color in Bugs life was light years sharper and more detailed than the collectors edition dvd I have.

I have over 150 hd movies, most on Verbatims..and with 3TB drives coming out in 2 years, we will soon see them in the $130 dollar range. Much better double clicking on a movie in my hdtv folder than fishing through my disc collection.

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Sadly,it's posts like yours that sway the argument for publishers to back Blu-Ray in the first place.
Newsgroups,Torrents and other P2P methods are all the cause for the DRM and anti-consumer CP.

Guys/gals, i have nothing against pioneering in the digital backup field, remember, i used to be one of you :)

I'm just saying, since my time is needed elsewhere, i'm way behind in the HD backing up "technology." I quoted that b/c more or less it's the same process, but i have been out of the loop for so long that i don't even know how to back up my dvds (lol). Lastly, i've lost the interest... i.e. it's actually opportunity cost-wisely cheaper not to backup :)

Also, i agree with the backed up HD movie and disc free jazz, but the thing is, if you want subtitles and stuffs, you gotta do more homework :(

Well first of all lets get the facts out of the way first, eh?

Paramount are not going Blu-ray and have said so today.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=2...heBc&refer=asia

To the sad trolls who love to expose their idiocy by inventing new accounts to 'blame' me for them buying HD DVD
(yeah right, course you did)
or nextgen's sanctimonious & ludicrous 'I tried to warn you'
I say grow up kiddies.

Don't be such tedious fools.

What sort of simpleton & brain-dead moron bases his buying of anything on some comments read on the internet anyways?

FFS get a life & quit making a fool of yourselves.

As is perfectly clear by now HD DVD did indeed have this in the bag (like I said) right up until the start of last week (including Warner signing exclusively for them).

Unfortunately a small mountain of Sony cash changed their minds.
It doesn't matter what accounting slight-of-hand they use to disguise it we all know Warner did not do this for free.

The Sony fanclub - whether they are honest enough to admit even to themselves or not - know that this could so easily have gone the other way - and very nearly almost did.

Meanwhile those that genuinely did buy HD DVD still have the largest catalogue of available content and the most exclusive content to select from - and will have probably for most of this year
(unless Warner are going to suddenly churn out a few dozen titles in the 6mths of the year left when they change, which is highly unlikely).

We also have a high spec high end HD DVD player and SD DVD player (the HD A/EP30 & A/EP35 compares very nicely to Denon SD DVD players many times their price in fact and the HD A2/3/E1 compare extremely well with any similarly priced SD DVD player too).

HD DVD players and content will be around for a long time to come, as will the vast SD DVD catalogue they can upscale (very very well).

In fact with Blu-ray spending a huge fortune on Warner & Fox you can forget inexpensive BD players or BD movies for some time as they try and claw back their huge outlay.

Whether this is a case of winning the battle only to lose the war is a very valid question.

Between upscaled SD DVD, satellite/cable HD TV set-top boxes and downloads there is little reason to expect Blu-ray to simply replace DVD and 'win' anything much.

The market has changed enormously and will continue to change.

Sony may well have torched it's game console brand to 'win' something of much less value now that content delivery has changed so much since DVD began.

Still, if that turns out to be the case you can always go whine at all the Sony/PS3 fanboys who helped talk you into low-spec, DRM infested & short-lived Blu-ray players, can't you, huh?

I might even tell you how I tried to warn you.

*rolls eyes & LMFAO*

BTW sorry to have disappointed some of you guys so sorely.

Clearly you're just projecting your own values/behaviour.

I do not run away & slink off & pretend I did not say they things I have said.

I stand by everything I have said as the honest truth as I then knew it to be or my own (clearly expressed) personal opinion(s) based on the true facts as I saw them.

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As is perfectly clear by now HD DVD did indeed have this in the bag (like I said) right up until the start of last week (including Warner signing exclusively for them).

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Speaking of foolish...lol If HD-DVD had it in the bag provide facts for us not this HD-DVD pep rally talk.

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aramount are not going Blu-ray and have said so today.

Quote:Viacom Inc.'s Paramount Pictures denied a newspaper report that the studio is poised to follow Time Warner Inc. in abandoning Toshiba Corp.'s HD DVD technology.

``Paramount's current plan is to continue to support the HD DVD format,'' Brenda Ciccone, a spokeswoman for Paramount, said in an e-mail today.

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They denied it they never said they wasn't learn the difference.This does nothing to shoot down the rumor thats from a very valid source.Either there going to do it now or later but its going to happen thats a fact HD-DVD is dead now so we don't need this pep rally talk from you because members on this forum can easy go back & check my post & yours as you ripped members apart that even spoke anything positive about Blu-Ray AS I SAID I HATE TO SAY I TOLD YOU SO !


Its over you lose alot & win very little when you ignore & disregard facts like you did.

Back on topic:

Beowulf & No country for old men going to look good on BD.Also can't wait til they release Transformers.

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Besides, backing up BDs can be a bitch... translation, more time consuming that backing up dvds, i rather actually watch a movie or play games :)

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Um....what?!

I downloaded Star Wars in 1080p which was about 16 gigs. Took kindly to two dual layer Verbatims, burned at 4x speed and played back flawlessly on my core 2 pc. Wasnt any hassle at all.

Same with Bugs Life posted recently in the hdtv newsgroup. 13 gigs, backed up on 2 dual layers..NO TIME AT ALL! :)

The picture quality/color in Bugs life was light years sharper and more detailed than the collectors edition dvd I have.

I have over 150 hd movies, most on Verbatims..and with 3TB drives coming out in 2 years, we will soon see them in the $130 dollar range. Much better double clicking on a movie in my hdtv folder than fishing through my disc collection.

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Sadly,it's posts like yours that sway the argument for publishers to back Blu-Ray in the first place.
Newsgroups,Torrents and other P2P methods are all the cause for the DRM and anti-consumer CP.

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Yeah, why brag about it? Does it make people feel special? Does it make them feel like you're "one of the boys. ?" I wish people in general would just shut up about their downloading habits and keep it to themselves. We may not be in this mess so soon.

I personally don't care about bluray DRM and HDCP stuff. At least not now. Like Gnawnivek, I wasted a lot of time backing up all of my DVD's and messing around with all the protection bypass schemes a long time ago. Now, I'm just looking forward to buying a nice HDTV and playing original movies if I ever get any time to sit through one. Does the whole concept of HDCP bother me? Yes, it does, but it's kind of in the background. Although there is only 1 claim to fame on cracking HDCP (skeptical since he didn't release it due to legal issues), I'm sure over the next few years, it will be released by a group.

Four fellas just got suspensions for making disparaging remarks towards another user. If it continues the bans will become longer!

I don't care who you are, how long you've been here or who started what. If someone's giving you a hard time then use the offensive post report feature or pm a moderator with a link to the problem thread. Anyone with a decent measure of maturity should be able to pass up responding to some trash talking putz and simply report them.

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Unfortunately a small mountain of Sony cash changed their minds. It doesn't matter what accounting slight-of-hand they use to disguise it we all know Warner did not do this for free.

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Again, what is the point in bringing this into play? We all know Paramount isn't backing HD-DVD (for now atleast) out of the goodness of their heart.

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Well to all of those that purchased HD DVD players it should be good to know that you still have a good upscaling DVD player.

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Yeah, a good upscaling DVD player or a downscaling HD player. The $99 HD-DVD players that were sold at Toshiba's Fire-Sale are only 1080i. LOL

Microsoft dragged Paramount into this mess. LOL

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lol yeah, you guys are so funny , i got a good kick out of that, evert since i heard about blu-ray i threw my support behind it, and looks like i made the right choice, well actually my cousin told me about it and he said it was gonna be sweet, so i got into blu, and thank god.

Peace out

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Unfortunately a small mountain of Sony cash changed their minds. It doesn't matter what accounting slight-of-hand they use to disguise it we all know Warner did not do this for free.

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Again, what is the point in bringing this into play? We all know Paramount isn't backing HD-DVD (for now atleast) out of the goodness of their heart.

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yeah he always brings up the $$$, face it everyone, people pay other people to make decisions,if i recall paramount or universal got payed to go hd-dvd exclusive.

If HDVD cannot maintain a deal to keep one of them they are done as a viable format for the main media industries....

Lol I bet most people who didn't know anything went with Blu-Ray because the name sounded cooler :P

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Lol I bet most people who didn't know anything went with Blu-Ray because the name sounded cooler :P

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blu-ray does sound friggin sexy, but imo i always thought people would pick hd dvd because 'HD' is everywhere (HDTV local channels advertising themselves in HD, etc.), so since its in front of HD DVD theyd already think 'High Definition DVD'

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Lol I bet most people who didn't know anything went with Blu-Ray because the name sounded cooler :P

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blu-ray does sound friggin sexy, but imo i always thought people would pick hd dvd because 'HD' is everywhere (HDTV local channels advertising themselves in HD, etc.), so since its in front of HD DVD theyd already think 'High Definition DVD'

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Nah.... It's just to plain... It's DVD with 2 letters in front of it... Blu-Ray sounds fresh, completely new. Plus their cases are a deep blue and are noticeable :P

lol

At first I thought HD-DVD was just a regular DVD with a better picture inna newer case like it was for the higher class or somethin';... I didn't know it was like Blu-Ray...

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Lol I bet most people who didn't know anything went with Blu-Ray because the name sounded cooler :P

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blu-ray does sound friggin sexy, but imo i always thought people would pick hd dvd because 'HD' is everywhere (HDTV local channels advertising themselves in HD, etc.), so since its in front of HD DVD theyd already think 'High Definition DVD'

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Nah.... It's just to plain... It's DVD with 2 letters in front of it... Blu-Ray sounds fresh, completely new. Plus their cases are a deep blue and are noticeable :P

lol

At first I thought HD-DVD was just a regular DVD with a better picture inna newer case like it was for the higher class or somethin';... I didn't know it was like Blu-Ray...

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Plain is good, it keeps ting simple for consumers :P

This is good news companies are making the choices and then this will eventually get rid of one of the formats and then consumers know where they stand which is great. Then people can really choose the player they want and not based on the format but what features come with the blu-ray player.

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Lol I bet most people who didn't know anything went with Blu-Ray because the name sounded cooler :P

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blu-ray does sound friggin sexy, but imo i always thought people would pick hd dvd because 'HD' is everywhere (HDTV local channels advertising themselves in HD, etc.), so since its in front of HD DVD theyd already think 'High Definition DVD'

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Nah.... It's just to plain... It's DVD with 2 letters in front of it... Blu-Ray sounds fresh, completely new. Plus their cases are a deep blue and are noticeable :P

lol

At first I thought HD-DVD was just a regular DVD with a better picture inna newer case like it was for the higher class or somethin';... I didn't know it was like Blu-Ray...

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Plain is good, it keeps ting simple for consumers :P

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Ya but today everybody wants the coolest things...

Like iPods. More expensive then many playera, or worse, but it looks and sounds cool, so people buy it.

I myself ended up getting a 30Gb for christmas, well 2 years ago now I guess, and now realize that it's not big enough anymore :P

I think I might get an Archos now though... they look really cool :P