Originally posted by svtstang:

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Originally posted by jetyi83:

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250 is not a lot, i dont use that every month, but there are definitely months where i can use double that. thats only 20 hd movies in a month, and normal web browsing.

20 movies isnt much when youre building a library

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This is what bothers me. Only people that are bothered by a 1/4 tb cap per month are pirates who believe paying for a high speed connection entitles them to everything on the net. A tad delusional me thinks.

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Sounds like you work for a cable company. :-)
Frankly, any caps are idiotic. Why are we allowing these clueless gatekeepers to charge us for something that should be ours, anyway? When you count up the government subsidies these losers get, and all of the infrastructure that we, the taxpayers, already paid for, where do they get off putting limits on it?
And why are we allowing these greedy jerks to hold us back technologically? We all know they're hoarding fiber to drive the prices up. We all know they're lying about how "hard it is" to "maintain" the Internet (like they're doing that anyway).
So why not decapitate them?
Everybody's crying for nationalization and socialization of resources nowadays, so why not put these fat, greasy corporate heads out to pasture?

Lol nah, nowhere close to working for a cable company. What people do on the net is their own business, I just find it amusing what some people think they "deserve" for spending 50 bucks a month for their 8 meg connection. Pirate if you want, just don't make ridiculous arguments that a cap, a large one at that, is not enough because you can't pirate as many movies as you would have otherwise. You must admit, that sounds ridiculous doesn't it?

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I just find it amusing what some people think they "deserve" for spending 50 bucks a month for their 8 meg connection. Pirate if you want, just don't make ridiculous arguments that a cap, a large one at that, is not enough because you can't pirate as many movies as you would have otherwise.

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What I think I "deserve" is exactly what I paid for, which is "unlimited". Unlimited means as much as I am capable of getting with my "promised" speeds. If I want to open the pipe and stream the entire fricken internet onto a HD at my measly bitrate that the cable company allows me to use then that is what I "deserve".

The US is LAGGING in the world when it comes to speed. We have nothing compared to Asia. Our current greedy companies cannot keep up with the world or with US demands and so are trying to weasle out of their commitments with this bullcrap.

Try this. UPGRADE YOUR FRIGGEN INFRASTRUCTURE TO FIBER OPTIC AND GIVE US REAL BANDWIDTH ... and quit griping about how much bandwidth Johhny Moviewatcher is stealing from Grandma.

Try this. UPGRADE YOUR FRIGGEN INFRASTRUCTURE TO FIBER OPTIC AND GIVE US REAL BANDWIDTH ... and quit griping about how much bandwidth Johhny Moviewatcher is stealing from Grandma.


It was changed over too fiber optics!

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lol.....edited for, well.....it's too tempting to stir the pot :P

+1

Common sense still does exist.

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link in my sig... read more..

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I find this stupid first windows vista is downloading 400 meg updates at a time which means within a month 800 megs of your 250 gig's is gone just like that how lame and worse they are punishing people that use bittorrent for legal uses and any one can show a court of law how many legal bittorrents there are out there that are open source legal downloads. even funnier still Comcast currently watches all traffic on there servers and worse they will send teams of employees to search your computers illegally so no amount of limiting will work if they are going to limit me i am going to dsl and will tell comcast to go straight to %$##$% and take there service with them.

lame morons

COMCAST will never be my ISP. I'm not gonna do business with jerks who lie about everything; when you ask questions. Their cable TV service is bad enough. If you're lucky, you live in a town, where this corporate whore monopoly bought up another service provider's contract without even re-negotiating a contract with city councils...

stuntman_, I hope you are burning the wires right now! 10 G is an insaine number.

250 is generous in my estimation. Yes, for many this will be a cut back. I suspect my house might use somewhere in that range some months. We have lots of streaming. What I am fearful about is Comcast is fairly dishonest. They need to make your usage clear and easy to know. I am figuring they are hoping to use this to rip off their customers.

I say if you can get a better deal do so. I bet Comcast will not press their customers that can switch to a better service.

I am not a Comcast customer, however, my ISP does have limits also in an "unlimited" plan. They suggest upgrading to a higher speed package....just what I need, hit the limit faster. Here is their communication.

November 7, 2007

Dear Valued Customer:

Please read this critical system message from PenTeleData and Blue Ridge Communications regarding the excessive usage statistics that continue to be recorded for your residential Internet account.

PenTeleData previously informed you about excessive bandwidth usage through your cable modem account. After careful analysis of recent usage data on your account during the month of October, it was determined that your cable Internet account continues to consume bandwidth in excess of what is considered normal for the package that you are paying for. We asked you to review your computer system(s) and your usage patterns for any activity you thought might cause your account to exceed the acceptable usage totals. PenTeleData also asked that you sharply reduce the bandwidth utilization for your account.

Today, your cable Internet service account remains identified as utilizing an excessive amount of bandwidth.

Due to your obvious bandwidth needs, we ask that you either convert to a higher speed residential package, by calling Blue Ridge Communications 1-800-CABLE77 or a PenTeleData commercial Internet account by contacting our Sales department at 1-800-281-3564, ext 7715, or contact BRC to terminate your cable Internet service account.

Please be advised that if you do not decrease your bandwidth usage or contact us to upgrade your service within 10 (ten) business days of the date of this email/letter, Blue Ridge Communications may stop providing your Internet service. Blue Ridge Communications will suspend your service and appropriately refund you any prepaid amounts.

Thank you for your business and continued support.

PenTeleData/Blue Ridge Communications

It took me 3 phone calls to ACTUALLY get someone to tell me what my limit is...in my case. 85 GIG download, 15 gig UPLOAD. The direction of the traffic is also important. Since I have no other choice in ISP available, I keep my traffic under control, as the only option would be to go to a "business account". Quite pricey. I would be grateful for 250 gig a month download for now.

It boils down to "if you don't like the service, go elsewhere and quit "bitchin" about something which you have no control over.

Originally posted by bilbo65:

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It boils down to "if you don't like the service, go elsewhere and quit "bitchin" about something which you have no control over.

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I would love to take my business elsewhere..I don't like Comcast at all. THERE are no other providers in Houston, Texas or I would. My Giganews account alone averages 300-500 gb per month. Where should I go elsewhere?

Uggg

Do you expect any rational person, let alone the cable company, to pity you when you are generating 500 gigs a month of pure piracy? God forbid you have to cut it down to a measly 250 gigs a month to stay under the radar...

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Soon there will be another way... when we all set up wireless and connect to each other and set up a proper "undernet" free from governments and fascist cartels of ripoff media moguls... Even then you will have to show some respect for bandwidth... because when it is totally free the controllers will block "abusers" who impact on other fair users.

Until then I wasn't born with enough middle fingers............

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Originally posted by svtstang:

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Uggg

Do you expect any rational person, let alone the cable company, to pity you when you are generating 500 gigs a month of pure piracy? God forbid you have to cut it down to a measly 250 gigs a month to stay under the radar...

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and who wants pity? Just a shame lackeys to the big corporations come in and pretend they are the ones to judge other's downloads. What piracy? Who said if you download that it's always piracy? I guess there are some that come here to look at the "pirates". Now there are legal downloads of games and movies on the net. I guess now people know exactly what I download & upload.

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Maybe you should set up your own internet provider company. Then you'd be in complete control. Or use dialup as a backup....

Originally posted by varnull:

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Soon there will be another way... when we all set up wireless and connect to each other and set up a proper "undernet" free from governments and fascist cartels of ripoff media moguls... Even then you will have to show some respect for bandwidth... because when it is totally free the controllers will block "abusers" who impact on other fair users.

Until then I wasn't born with enough middle fingers............

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Even if you do this someone in the group will make a virus and boom bam bong!!!

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Try this. UPGRADE YOUR FRIGGEN INFRASTRUCTURE TO FIBER OPTIC AND GIVE US REAL BANDWIDTH ... and quit griping about how much bandwidth Johhny Moviewatcher is stealing from Grandma.


It was changed over too fiber optics!

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Mine isn't.It's the same copper drop wire that has been hanging across my yard for the last thirty years.

The infrastructure where I live is overwhelmingly copper wire connected to the optical network.
The fact is that my ISP (Sympatico) offers 'unlimited' downloads with speed 'up to' and a tiny asterisk;and is in the process of renting the politicians whom I pay to f**k up the country to allow them to 'shape'
my traffic - i.e. degrade my service to pad their bottom line.
Would anyone put up with this same nonsense if it was voice service on a telephone line."It's only a small minority who yak all day;the people who don't talk a lot are subsidizing the long winded"

svtstang, although I agree with your sentament however, I did not notice much whining. You might be over reacting in this case. There are plenty of cases where users have been slammed for doing legal down loads. That is why the FCC stepped in. Not because they favor pirates over business.

I also am conviced Comcast users will be lucky to get 100G a month. Comcast is known for bait and switch, breaking contracts etc. They are forever getting into touble for doing something so underhanded it is ilegal. Comcast claims normal users only use 2 G per month. I see that happening if you only have broadband to check your email account once a week. I really can't see them paying all that extra money for broad band. I figure they are just doing their usual lying.

attar, you are lucky that you are not in the US as far a many of our laws and practices. You are correct on the copper wire. Comcast wants to charge over $100/month for something the same wire they charged $20 a month for when it was laid. HD TV has has made them hungry for band width they never had in the first place.

The thing is, he said he is using Giganews.....dont know too many people using usenet and downloading 500 gigs of legal content. Lets quantify that, you download over 100 full dvd's of data a month! But of course, that is all linux iso's just like everybody else using up that much bandwidth.

Corporate lackey? It is called common sense. I am afraid you are lacking it. If you want to download the entire freaking internet go ahead, just be prepared to get cut off, as you should. Get ready for this, my isp has a 40 gig cap a month! And guess what, I survive. Your sense of entitlement is ridiculous.

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Here is a good one!

A Comcast user downloaded leopard, a Mac OS and his firewall was attacked but it held. Then they sent a Comcast truck out to the house but the owner would not let them in. Sniffing traffic is not legal without a warrent. This company is as lawless as some of their users.

I bet Comcast is really looking at a much lower limit like 50 G. They will need to come up with the smallest limit that will not produce a mass exodus. They just announced a ridiculously high amount to reduce the rush of torrent use. Apparently they have not stopped their torrent attacks either. I just got an email from a Comcast user that suffered a Sandvines attack last night. They promised the FCC they would stop that practice. However, they did not state when.

Here we go with more of Comcast Lousy Service. I am a Comcast user and not by choice. They took over our local Cable Company InsightBB as they were Owner anyhow? Service is Lousy and telephone internet help is almost non existant or they hang up on you.I have the whole shooting match with them, Phone,Cable and Broadband and I have been trying for several months to get them to change a ISP they use as one of their roving numbers they change periodically. Problem a couple other Companies have them Black Listed so the people using that service never get's mail I send, but I get plenty Mail Refusal Notices daily. But I can use a Pop3 Gmail and everything fly's right on through. Also we had a large Send limit through Insight but Comcast is still in the older time and limits Send Size to almost ziltch. Guess my next move will be far, far away from this service. Thanks for letting me Vent!

This raises an excellent point. Spoiled city people often get a choice of ISP provider. In most areas, the cable company has a monopoly. This is why some of you don't get it.

The bottom line is, the ISPs either need to give us what is rightfully ours or they need to go. Nationalize the fiber and add more. Stop letting dinosaurs hog OUR infrastructure.

In a few years whebn the sat providers are lower on there internet service then the cable companies are going what happen too all our people we had oh satallite got internet and faster then cable.

It will be a few years before they have the speed and the people because who really wants to pay 200 a month since I am getting internet for 20 a month through charter.

I use Comcast but I have never used their email postoffice. I live near DC. Someone went on a rampage at the Comcast customer service area. She took a hammer to all their computers. She didn't even get any jail time. She had to pay for the damages and had to work plenty of community service. That probably means the judge figured she had been provoked.