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US Senator concerned 'The Dark Knight' will lose money from piracy

28 July 2008 16:01 by Rich "vurbal" Fiscus | 42 comments

US Senator concerned 'The Dark Knight' will lose money from piracy Last week leading members of the US Senate Judiciary Committee announced plans to introduced yet another copyright bill. The latest is called the Enforcement of Intellectual Property Rights Act of 2008.

The new bill borrows heavily from other recent proposed legislation, most notably the PIRATE Act which was passed in the Senate in 2004, and the US House of Representatives earlier this year. It includes controversial provisions which would increase the maximum damages available for copyright infringement and make the Department of Justice responsible for taking civil action on behalf of copyright holders.

A statement from Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and one of the bill's sponsors, said "Many times, a criminal sanction is simply too severe for the harm done." It fails, however, to mention why the solution isn't to simply increase criminal penalties rather than giving copyright holders free legal representation.

Ironically Leahy also used the recently released blockbuster 'The Dark Knight' as an example of the products which are at risk of losing money from piracy. Perhaps someone should explain to Mr. Leahy that 'The Dark Knight' is already one of the most profitable movies of all time, and Warner Brothers seems to be doing well enough to hire their own lawyers.

Instead Senator Leahy, along with Senators Arlen Specter (Pennsylvania), Evan Bayh (Indiana), George Voinovich (Ohio), Dianne Feinsten (California), and John Cornyn (Texas) would prefer to spend taxpayers money to pursue civil penalties, in addition to any criminal prosecution that might occur.

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    susieqbbb (Inactive) 29 July 2008 0:47 Send private message to this user   
    So lets increase the punishment great idea but until schools place blocking tech on there servers to block transfering of files this new law is crap.
    llongtheD (Member) 29 July 2008 4:20 Send private message to this user   
    @susieqbbb

    I don't know where your coming from with that comment. Do you actually believe schools putting blocking tech on their servers will put a dent in piracy? Most students on a strapped budget wouldn't buy this stuff anyway, they may view and listen, but they're not the pirates. In fact, maybe if our government spent more money on education, instead of old politicians sitting around debating copyright legislation, students might have more money to spend on frivolous items.
    domie (Member) 29 July 2008 5:28 Send private message to this user   
    On another related point - shouldn't he be investigated by a senate anti-corruption committee ?

    I mean we've already established that he has dry orgasms humping his zimmer frame while watching his 1 second appearance in "Gotham Knight" 1,000 times over with the FF and REW buttons smoking with heat

    Isn't this a clear example of abusing political influence and enacting political law to promote and protect what he himself has admitted are personal subjective interests ?

    hell ! we are talking about a country where you can be sued millions for selling the wrong sized donut as a street vendor ( causing undue mental anguish ) - surely someone can get him ?
    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 29 July 2008 5:31 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by domie:
    On another related point - shouldn't he be investigated by a senate anti-corruption committee ?

    I mean we've already established that he has dry orgasms humping his zimmer frame while watching his 1 second appearance in "Gotham Knight" 1,000 times over with the FF and REW buttons smoking with heat

    Isn't this a clear example of abusing political influence and enacting political law to promote and protect what he himself has admitted are personal subjective interests ?

    hell ! we are talking about a country where you can be sued millions for selling the wrong sized donut as a street vendor ( causing undue mental anguish ) - surely someone can get him ?
    tiz a shame comrade there is no treason in corruption anymore. =^^=

    public officials need to be help to a much higher standard and to much sterner punishments...
    emugamer (Member) 29 July 2008 12:35 Send private message to this user   
    Mr. Senator, I'm glad you are a movie buff. So am I. When I like a movie, I buy it if I can afford it.

    Losing money in tax revenue? If people aren't spending money on movies, they are spending it on something else. And everything is taxed. The fabricated billions are incredible. They are essentially double-dipping for the sake of statistic numbers to make their case. Show me a list of all movies that have actually lost money (made zero profit and put Hollywood studios in debt). I want to see how large that list is.

    Show me how those statistics are generated. Any High School grad could probably debunk their math. I'd love to see a college professor go at it.

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29 July 2008 12:37

    DXR88 (Senior Member) 29 July 2008 12:46 Send private message to this user   
    is that the bribed senator in that picture, son of a b!tch looks like he is about fall out of his rocker in 5 years. why is it that we have old dumb as$es ruining it for the younger generation.

    people are getting uneasy & pissed about the economy of the US, i can barely afford gas to get to and from work. im just waiting for the sh*t to hit the fan. i feel a revolt from the public in 3-5 years.
    dbuster (Newbie) 29 July 2008 18:24 Send private message to this user   
    Did the good senator forget to mention that he was in the movie???
    cousinkix (Newbie) 29 July 2008 23:58 Send private message to this user   
    This is the same PATRICK LEAHY who flashed his personal collection of BOOTLEG Grateful Dead recordings in front of Ted Koppel's NIGHTLINE TV cameras, when Jerry Garcia died in 1995...
    vurbal (Staff Member) 30 July 2008 10:11 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by cousinkix:
    This is the same PATRICK LEAHY who flashed his personal collection of BOOTLEG Grateful Dead recordings in front of Ted Koppel's NIGHTLINE TV cameras, when Jerry Garcia died in 1995...

    Not quite the same thing, although certainly a good point when it comes to the music industry. The Grateful Dead allowed people to tape and distribute their shows as part of their business model. They made all their money off of merchandise and concert tickets, and given they were among the top grossing acts for a very long time it worked pretty well.

    They're not bootlegs in the legal sense because the band gave their permission.
    jetyi83 (Member) 30 July 2008 14:05 Send private message to this user   
    i bet that dude has a hard time just checking his email
    vurbal (Staff Member) 30 July 2008 16:26 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by jetyi83:
    i bet that dude has a hard time just checking his email

    Nah, he has somebody to do that for him. That's what taxes are for after all.
    nb69 (Newbie) 31 July 2008 21:05 Send private message to this user   
    No F*ing wonder. That Senator is in the movie. He was in the forst 2 movies too. He gets a fat check from the royalties. It shows his prejudice and bias for the movement. He must think he could loose a few dollars?
    ehofehof (Newbie) 3 August 2008 22:27 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by nb69:
    No F*ing wonder. That Senator is in the movie. He was in the forst 2 movies too. He gets a fat check from the royalties. It shows his prejudice and bias for the movement. He must think he could loose a few dollars?

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    Huh? Isn't that CONFLICT OF INTEREST ??
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    Legislating about something in which HE HAS A PERSONAL FINANCIAL INTEREST???
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    But be that as it may what happened to the statistical studies that so-called 'Video Piracy'(see footnote) makes absolutely no difference at all to the 'Bottom-Line' of the movie industry? Many people who otherwise wouldn't even consider purchasing the movie DO buy it after viewing a copy, and those who don't, would not have bought it anyway.
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    And AFAIR every court which has ever ruled on alleged piracy has found that the original owner of ANY media is entitled to make at least 2 backup copies. And if s/he chooses to lend them out, that is of-course his/her business, and might even generate additional purchases by the people s/he loaned it to. If it is a good product. Which I guess the Media Moguls don't want anyone to know until AFTER they have shelled out their hard-earned/quadruple-taxed cash.
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    Oh Wait! I forgot. This is the U S of A. where a rich unscrupulous individual or corporation is allowed to sue a competitor into bankruptcy with no legal basis at all, as a means of stealing the competitor's Patents... As Bill Gates originally did to Seattle Computer Products, and then a hundred more down the road.
    Mez (Senior Member) 6 August 2008 10:43 Send private message to this user   
    If you are in the US, STOP YOUR WHINING and do something about it! These same thugs tried to get this going a year ago and voter outrage stopped them dead in their tracks. I am sure they are waiting till after the elections to drop this bomb!

    You have to write the US Senate Judiciary Committee nasty letters that look like they come from their own constituency. That requires some foot work and research. You need to use real persons’ identities. The letters should be reasonable. I always try to add that if I have to shut down the internet in my house for fear that my kids might do something wrong, their education will suffer. The reality is that it is nearly impossible to figure out if the tunes etc were pirated. Yet the parents will get stuck paying the penalties. This law is anti- American! I get real angry when I say that they favor blood suckers over my child’s education. The bill will spend billions of tax dollars to put millions of dollars into the media mafiaa’s pockets.

    I like to sound a bit uneducated who heard something from a friend that scared me and made me angry. I usually mention I might bring the topic up at the PTA. That is their worst nightmare! A group of moronic uninformed angry voters! I assure you that will scare the crap out of them if done correctly. You can use the same set of letters for your senators. They will need to vote on it before it becomes law. These laws do not protect industries but do attack the public.

    How is a parent to know if their kids have pirated tunes? Demand a new government group to help and educate parents how to find out if their kids have pirated tunes. Tell them they had better get that money from the from the media not tax dollars. How dare they waste precious tax dollars so that the US might profit. Who do they work for? They certainly are not working for the voters. Demand to learn who came up with this stupid idea! If that does not scare the crap out of them nothing will.
    Renfraus (Newbie) 6 August 2008 12:52 Send private message to this user   
    No wonder he complains about Dark Knight, Leahy is in the pocket of Warner Bros. Here's the proof:

    http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=n00009918

    Quote:
    Patrick Leahy's Top 5 Contributors, 2003-2008

    Technet $81,491
    Walt Disney Co $43,200
    Time Warner $41,100
    Law Office of Peter Angelos $38,700
    Viacom Inc $36,500
    Politicians are bought and paid for... don't believe the B.S.
    Mez (Senior Member) 6 August 2008 13:11 Send private message to this user   
    Renfraus, it that supposed to be a surprize???

    No politican does much especially something as patronizing as this one with out being paid off.

    Yes, it is nice to see Disney in there as well. Tech Net is the lobbiest for M$ ect. Vicom is TV. I bet Law Office of Peter Angelos is a front for the media mafiaa since they are the only ones missing in that group.
    FredBun (Senior Member) 7 August 2008 1:00 Send private message to this user   
    I can't beleive this guy, the balls to even discuss this, this senator's mind is in disneyland.
    DXR88 (Senior Member) 7 August 2008 1:19 Send private message to this user   
    US Citizen concerned 'This old Bat of a Senator' Has lost his Brain from CPS_(Corporate-Pocketbook-Syndrome)

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 7 August 2008 1:20

    maitland (Newbie) 7 August 2008 16:24 Send private message to this user   
    <rant>

    Dianne Feinstein is not my senator. California will do well when we get rid of that dumb b!tch. I say we make her walk the plank!

    </rant>
    DXR88 (Senior Member) 7 August 2008 18:07 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by maitland:
    <rant>

    Dianne Feinstein is not my senator. California will do well when we get rid of that dumb b!tch. I say we make her walk the plank!

    </rant>


    garmoon (AfterDawn Addict) 7 August 2008 20:42 Send private message to this user   
    All elected incumbents in the federal government need to be replaced without exceptions. A good start would be in November.
    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 7 August 2008 20:45 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by garmoon:
    All elected incumbents in the federal government need to be replaced without exceptions. A good start would be in November.
    would be ebtter if gov had mroe oversight and a bribs/money/favors is treason agisnt the people theme in it...
    Mez (Senior Member) 8 August 2008 7:42 Send private message to this user   
    Oh Yeah Zippy! I am sure that bill would fly through both houses. No anti-graff bill is passed with out first opening a loop-hole.

    There is really nothing the voters can do. The crook are waiting in line to become elected officials. It is kind of like flies on a real smelly sh1t! If a honest one does get into office no one will work with him unless he becomes tainted.

    The only way to fix the problem would be a violent march on DC. I am expecting one in about a decade. Those bastards have sold us down the river for at least a half century. When we are down river there will be political unrest.
    ampex7 (Newbie) 14 October 2008 23:29 Send private message to this user   
    yea right ,those members of our "Divine Congress" are just lap doggies of the lobbyist,they are only doing what the payoff calls for.
    Mez (Senior Member) 15 October 2008 6:49 Send private message to this user   
    ampex7, the members just want to get paid for everything they vote on.
    garmoon (AfterDawn Addict) 15 October 2008 7:47 Send private message to this user   
    and I thought politics was strictly a no no! LMAO unreported!
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