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16 October 2008 2:41 by Rich "vurbal" Fiscus
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While speaking in Des Moines, IA on Monday, Pandora internet radio founder Tim Westergren indicated that he believes webcasters and record label representatives are close to a deal on royalties for internet radio. The comments came at a gathering of Pandora listeners, which you can read more about in a new article here at Afterdawn.
Mr. Westergren took a few minutes to sit down with me and discuss the current state of Pandora and even speculate a little about the future. We also talked about devices that make it possible to listen to Pandora when you're not sitting in front of the computer, including mobile phones and appliances that connect to both your home network and home stereo.
For more details about our conversation you can read the entire article on our Guides and Articles page.
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| 13thHouR (Inactive) 16 October 2008 6:30 |
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Pandora is the way forward but the don't see it this way, the RIAA can't control evolution forever.
The RIAA - BPI - IFPI - CRIA - Ect - Ect Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.
Dont allow them to hide behind the trade body names, name and shame em.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 16 October 2008 6:34
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| atomicxl (Newbie) 16 October 2008 13:57 |
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Originally posted by 13thHouR: Pandora is the way forward but the don't see it this way, the RIAA can't control evolution forever.
Ehh, whatever. RIAA just asked them to pay the people who make the music. Pandora and others got in some hoopla about how this is destroying the internet, RIAA is out to kill Net Neutrality, and paying artists for music will cause the destruction of not just modern music, but of the planet itself.
Mighty interesting how all of the sudden Pandora and others are striking deals and now are willing to say that paying artists to use their music won't trigger the apocalypse... and they can still make enough money to more than stay in business.
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| vurbal (Staff Member) 16 October 2008 14:25 |
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Originally posted by 13thHouR: Pandora is the way forward but the don't see it this way, the RIAA can't control evolution forever.
Ehh, whatever. RIAA just asked them to pay the people who make the music. Pandora and others got in some hoopla about how this is destroying the internet, RIAA is out to kill Net Neutrality, and paying artists for music will cause the destruction of not just modern music, but of the planet itself.
Mighty interesting how all of the sudden Pandora and others are striking deals and now are willing to say that paying artists to use their music won't trigger the apocalypse... and they can still make enough money to more than stay in business.
That's an interesting take on it. What really happened is that the labels came up with a negotiating position that asked for more than they even considered reasonable because they knew it would be negotiated down to something they could live with. The webcasters did the same thing. That's how negotiations work. The problem is nobody told the Copyright Royalty Board that and they literally decided to adopt the labels' plan with no modification. Webcasters have always paid the artists. It's built into the language of the DMCA that allows them to operate. The issue that arose has to do with the re-negotiation of rates mandated every few years by the DMCA, not whether they pay royalties to performers.
And I guess you must really be disgusted with radio stations since they don't pay any performance royalties at all.
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| Mez (Senior Member) 23 October 2008 10:36 |
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Since I don't work for AD I don't have to mince words.
atomicxl, if what you stated had a shred of reality in it it would be one thing. I did not see what you stated posted anywhere. I am too lazy to research this stupid topic.
I remember when the slime fought for the artist cut for internet broadcasting. Then when the contract came up for renewal and the artist asked for a fixed percentage of their cut (they didn't even specify an amount) they were told to pound sand. They knew if they got a mumbo jumbo calculated cut the RIAA dreamed up, their take would be 0% of the cut. The public had to watch re-runs. I believe the RIAA is one of the most unethical enities on earth! Atomicxl, why do you wish to defend them?
13thHouR, they have been doing a great job so far at least in the legal arena.
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| ittu (Newbie) 25 October 2008 11:25 |
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wow that's grate news but you did'nt given MRP
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