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5 November 2002 13:13 by Petteri "dRD" Pyyny
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Philips continues its efforts to make the "plus" format the dominant recordable DVD format over the "minus" camp (which is currently doing well with Pioneer's almost-legendary A03, A04 and A05 models).
Company has released reference design for PC DVD+RW drives that allows third party manufacturers to license the technology and -- if they wish -- basically just to copy the reference drive and put their own branding on it.
Philips released similiar reference player for home stand-alone DVD recorders in last month. Drive manufacturers are locked in a bitter fight over standards, where Philips, HP and Dell are supporting the "plus" drives (DVD+R and DVD+RW) and Pioneer, Apple and the official DVD Forum are supporting the "minus" standard (DVD-R and DVD-RW).
Source: News.com
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| seanbyrne (Member) 6 November 2002 5:04 |
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| dRD (I hate titles) 6 November 2002 6:24 |
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The disc format doesn't have _ANYTHING_ to do with the compression ratio, DVD-Video features, etc. Both formats are identical in that sense. And both, "minus" and "plus" discs have exactly same _maximum_ amount of data they can store: 4.38 gigabytes.
The _ONLY_ difference between DVD-R and DVD+R is the fact that DVD+R drives can only burn DVD+R discs and DVD-R drives can only burn DVD-R discs. Both drives read both discs and DVD-ROM drives read both discs as well.
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| dali (Junior Member) 6 November 2002 10:17 |
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As far as I know, DVD-R is more compatible with existing (old?) drives. For instance, some Sony standalone DVD players like DVP-C660 and DVP-S535D can't read any of the "plus" technology discs but stand both DVD-R and DVD-RW media. Even more, according to the compatibility list at vcdhelp.com (afterdawn holds a link pointing at it, in its articles section), Playstation 2 can't read DVD+RW, but reads DVD-R, DVD-RW and DVD+R quite fine.
PS1: I recommend DVD-R/RW. Pioneer DVD-A04 is a cool device (firmware updated, of course).
PS2: I own a Sony DVD-Player myself. I don't remember the exact model, but I think it's the DVP-S550D. It's one of that silly devices which can read any CD-RW but only Princo CD-R media (odd but true!). Well, according to what is reported at vcdhelp.com, it won't read DVD-RW discs but using DVD+RW it will. I'm confused, but I'll try someday. Technology sucks.
-- Daniel
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| gekkados (Inactive) 8 November 2002 4:01 |
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That's not correct, i have a Playstation 2 and DVD+RW works fine ( SCPH 3004 R Pal )
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| dRD (I hate titles) 8 November 2002 4:15 |
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The older models of PS2 don't work with plus discs.
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| dali (Junior Member) 8 November 2002 6:04 |
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OK, I take note. It was not first-hand info, anyway. I just forwarded what I had read out there. Btw, nice choice. I'd also buy a PS2 if I had enough time to play. I used to be an absolute paddy-lamer some years ago, but I had to quit. It's been such a looooong time since the last time I played a PC game...
-- Daniel
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| seanbyrne (Member) 8 November 2002 9:31 |
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| dRD_test (Inactive) 8 November 2002 9:58 |
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The site's URL itself shows the slightly biased opinion, just like asking Microsoft to provide an independent review between Windows and Linux, don't you think?-)
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| st18901 (Newbie) 9 November 2002 0:34 |
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I started with a +Rw (hp200), tried it, it worked, but the media was way more expensive and not as compatible.
When the prices of the +R media are the same as -R, then I'll look at which is most dominant and maybe switch to +R (again).
Till then, -r wins.
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| dali (Junior Member) 9 November 2002 2:27 |
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Many people must be thinking the same, and that's why Philips is acting like this. They were losing until now }:-)
-- Daniel
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| sirbucky (Newbie) 11 November 2002 10:35 |
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i got a philips dvd+rw/r it the best around att the min,burn good with dvdx copy,i have not lost a disk with this burner not like the sony dvd burners.i give it 9 out of 10
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