Personally, I would send money to assist in his defense rather than spend another cent lining recording companies pockets...

Why can't al queda target some real unholy infedels!?!?

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Concerning donations for SimonMoon
Basically, he doesn't think that this is such a good idea at the moment.

However, if you still feel you should donate something, you're free to transfer with PayPal to donate@sharereactor.com but ONLY there! This is really important that you do not transfer your money to any other account or funding initiative, those are inofficial, ONLY the PayPal account is OFFICIAL!

He asked me to tell you one more thing: please consider that a few large donations are much easier to handle than loads of tiny ones when if it comes to fair refunding (after covering the lawyers costs) across all those who donated. Therefore, he would be most happy to receive larger donations from companies or institutions.

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Please do not trust this quote alone... go to jigle.com an look for yourself...

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The best donation would be from RIAA .ANd i as for dr Sadad posts dont u think that games/music/films etc...are not things that are required to live .U can live without it.One man said It is not so bad if one steal a bread but it is bad if one steal caviour. And if u say that these things are too expansive and thats why you STEAL it then why dont u (or u do ??)steal a car it is not cheap also. And dont think that im agent of RIAA or sth -_- i also leech file from edonkey but im aware that it isnt good and dont say such stupid things like if they(producers and devs) steal from us than i will steal from them so i will be HERO *o*

But what about when the members of the RIAA steal and behave in an unfair members to artist and to other smaller record companies? Their behavior is anti-trust and should be investigated by the governemnts... However, governments find it easier to go after soft targets which cannot defend themselves against the giants of the industry.

I spent seven years building up a recording and publishing business... When we grew big enough, one of the larger companies not only poached our artist, with impossible deals which the simply renigged on shortly after signing the artist, but also my production and design staff...

We were big enough to be in their shotgun sights and that was why we were shut down. Do go sprouting off about fair and equitable behavior, until you have had to tighten you belts sell your family home and start your life over!!!

I couldn't give a shit if every one of my albums that I ever produced was spread all over the internet (and neither did the artist that I signed) ... What I give a shit about is when a giant company throws it weight and it money around just to cripple a competitor!!!

BTW an extra 2 cents worth... leeching vs sharing says something about the type of person that you are ... it has very little else to do with the whole debate of assisting someone that is about to get steamrolled and end up at the very least bankrupt or even sent to prison for an act that he has made very little to no profit on.

idiocy. what grounds do they have to seize his equipment? i don't know swiss laws but in the US he has done nothing wrong. he did not host any illegal software, nor did he condone downloading it. he provided the means to find certain programs. it is akin to writing a book on how to make a bomb. it's called education purposes. did the author mean for someone to actually make a bomb and use it to blow up a car, or a subway station? very likely not. it is information to aid understanding. thus these types of books are allowed. thus this type of service is allowed.

thanks to those who have done the same and provided LINKS TO INFORMATION in this forum.

haha. sorry for double-post but i just caught one of the posts above...
as "limitless" says in an earlier post, this is nowhere over. do you understand the concept of anything that's done can be undone? this concept stretches far beyond the simplicity you might see it as. it doesn't matter what any government does anywhere. it never has (think black market, think mafia, think bootlegging, think prohibition). it may be more difficult for Joe User to get the latest hacked copy of whatever but there will ALWAYS be ways. name one way the government or even a coalition of governments will shut something down and i will tell you 1 or more ways it A. won't work and/or B. something else will still be around or something similar will pop up.
i am one of the many who believe in media controllers, yes. but do i believe that matters to anyone who isn't easily brainwashed? no. if you control the people, you control the idiots. this has advantages, yes. but if you're smart, you know how to avoid being found, avoid being caught, avoid being noticed, and most of all, learn to use the rules to your advantage.

anyway, before this becomes way too far off the topic, thanks again "SimonMoon"! much appreciated, regardless of how this turns out.
i'll see everyone wherever the tide turns next.

http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4075
What if they start running traces on ip's and isp's start shutting down broadband connections.

Please tell me that this isn't a possibility - i'm really clueless when it comes to technical stuff.

Heres hoping for a good result for mr moon and please post some more of this anarchy stuff, bringing down governments and stuff like that - it makes great reading.

What I don't understand is why the networks don't make these shows available for download after the show is aired on regular TV. They could put commercials in the download and be able to tell say that additional people will be viewing the commercial. Occasionally, I screw up and aren't able to watch a show I wanted to say. This would sure help me.

i dont understand why they even bother to shut down these sites. I mean, look at the past. They shut down napster and what good did that do? Blah..

hmm why use p2p.. its very very slow and usually contain viruses etc.. plus you can still get tv episodes and stuff.. sharereactor did not release thoses they just shared them on p2p. evyerhing you see on p2p comes from release whq sites, or whq ftps etc..

many of you will never get into these sites however, because you do not really even know what the scene is and what it is about.

Yeah, and you are... the fact that you even choose to sprout off about it says that you are a wannabe thats lives on the edge of the scene... P2P especially products like eMule/eDonkey are developed by people who have an interest in not only the acquisition of content, whether it be MP3, Videos or warez, but also want to stretch the boundry of information interchange... And the simple fact still remains... if you can simultaneously source information from multiple sites and servers (no matter what the protocol), you are going to get better response to your download. Go me 8 sites with 10 mbit pipes over 1 site with an 80mbit pipe any day.

pa104inf: The reason is the one that various people, including me, have criticized in the past as well: country-specific broadcast rights. American TV shows typically air 6 months - 4 years after their premiere in States in various countries for the very first time. For some countries the reason is dubbing (most Central and Southern European countries do this), subtitling (at least all Nordic countries do this) and simply money -- longer the country's broadcasters wait until they purchase rights to the show, the cheaper the price is.

So, now we got this "generation X" in most Western countries who can speak and understand English fluently even though its not their native language and they're seeking to d/l these shows immediately after they aired in the States as they simply want to know how Friends' last episode ended, etc. But their own country's broadcaster is planning to air the show sometime in 2009 or so.. And if the show would be avail on Net, national broadcaster wouldn't get viewers for their show and so wouldn't get advertisers for their show.

Obviously most problematic the situation is for countries where everybody speaks English, like UK, but where there still is a 6 - 18month gap between the American premiere and national premiere. For some other countries where dubbing is commonplace, this probably wouldnt pose that big problem as they're used to hear actors to speak dubbed Italian/Spanish/German and even subtitles feel awkward.

Anyway, as we all realize, no one can stop the global distribution of these shows via P2P networks and it is highly likely that within 10 years or so, the national broadcasters have to give up and the show's producing company (which is not the same as American TV stations either) will "air" the shows with variety of ready-made dubs/subtitles via Net and the premiere will already feature dubs/subs and the content is distributed via Net -- whatever the possible client terminal at that time will be (most likely IP-connected "TV" or something similar).

Just my €0.02..

And all the while I had the impression that the Swiss would protect us just like Swiss Bank Accounts. I would be now suspect of the mentioned accounts.
Best to All
Rodgers

Here's my oppinion in plain english without many errors in puncuation or spelling (for those of us that take the time to type our comments).
What the Swiss government has done was the right thing from THEIR PERSPECTIVE. Rather than be pestered by companies, industries, individuals, and orginizations (like the RIAA), the Swiss government took the easy way and asked for the site to go down. The owner of the site, being the cooperative man that he is, aggreed and is helping them take down the site. This news bummed me out at first, but I got over it because I know that sooner or later, someone in a thrid-world country is going to open a website that does the exact same thing and no industry will be able to stop it.
Personally... the various artists and orginizations can suck my dick. I don't CARE if you have copyright laws! If I want to promote your product so you can make money off of it then I'll buy it. If I don't like your product then I won't buy it... simple as that. So, if you want me to buy what you make: DON'T MAKE IT SUCK ASS!
The US government does not use the "Land of the Free cloak." Believe it or not, you have the right to walk in to the house of representitives while they are IN SESSION without being withheld from the meeting... so I did. If you want to boycot the industries, good luck. It's going to be VERY hard to go against the fanatics that would do anything for their favorite actor/singer/whatever.

Best of luck to all those that try, I hope you succeed and open the eyes of all the morons who are blinded by their money.

-KS

You might want to take a look at http://freereactor.com - you'll find all info on Sharereactor in one place...

I don't really find that fair... the owner of the site didn't put the software on the ed2k network himself, he simply made a site where you can find the info. He never hosted any of the software himself!!! In what way can he be held responsible??? I can understand them shutting down ftp's and websites that actually host software, but none of the links on sharereactor are locally stored software with the sole intention of illegal acts... In every sharereactor file I downloaded, whether it is a ftp server or a game, clearly states under the readme file "If you like this game/software, support the company and buy it". Is there not a law stating that it is allowed to listen to a MP3 for 24 hours, as a trial period, after that you must delete it unless you own the CD???

Well, I'm not sure about that 24 hour thing. I've heard similar stuff about console game system ROMs, and I've heard arguments (legal) against it. I am still trying to figure this out.

It's true that the owner didn't actually host files on the website, however he made it EXTREMELY EASY (am I right or am I right?) to download pirated, copied, and illegal software. It was the Swiss government's decision to close it down (and they asked the owner who COOPERATED with them). So it's just as much the creator's choice as it was the governments.
As to the ROMs and Emulation topic (the 24HR law): These is no guarenteed way to discover when you first start playing the game and there is no guarentee that you will delete it in 24 hours. So, ROMs have been termed as "pirated code" by the industry and government (because the code has a copyright, and reproduction by *any means,* which includes typing it in notepad or whatever, is illegal). Basicly, it's all illegal, but we don't care... I mean comeon, does the government have a copyright on the numbers "1" and "0"?

When are we all going to come to realize that these are issues of Privacy, which the Media folks as well as the Courts have invaded. Here in America our Constitution guarantees our right to Privacy, yet it is constantly being chipped away at by self-serving justices that make outrageous decisions, with their feeble efforts at interpreting the law. These misfits to our society have to be replaced by competent administrators, who will interpret the laws based on the Constitution. Governments are supposed to be serving the people and not vice-versa. It is time to wake up and deal with the issue of Privacy.
Best to All!
Rodgers

Actually, I think the issue is "piracy" not "privacy." I know they sound alike, but they are different. :)

Privacy is a completely different topic. Yes, there is invation of privacy, but that's not what happened here. Neither was it software piracy, and that's what is outrageous. Besides, it's the Swiss government, and not the U.S. that's currently at fault.

The minute anyone starts attacking my computer, whether it is the Media, or anyone else,that is an invasion of Privacy and that is the issue. Piracy is not the issue as it assumes Stealing. Piracy is small potatoes as compared to Privacy. Whether or not you realize it, the minute people start prying into your computer for data they are committing both piracy and an invasion of your privacy. If you don't think this is important, than ignore it.
Best to All
Rodgers

http://earthreactor.com

Has everything that ShareReactor, Suprnova, and Torrentz has including the search.

Earthreactor is better because there are no popups and it works 24/7

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Qoute from Shadow77: "hmm why use p2p.. its very very slow and usually contain viruses etc..."

As you know, one of the best things about sharereactor was that it offered a system of downloading in which you knew EXACTLY what you were getting. Sharereactor is what made the eDonkey/Overnet network far superior to Kazaa or any of the other p2p networks because it provided a foolproof way to download stuff that you knew would work, would be virus-free and you could avoid downloading fake files and stuff. Everything linked to the sharereactor site was all tested and verified.

With Sharereactor being shut down you don't have that foolproof system anymore but you can still get the same stuff from the networks.

One question I have is how this affects releasers like Razor1911 and Xgamers. What happens to them now?

Well got news for you people here in canada the supreme court made legal to download stuff in p2p so if the guys want to reopen the ShareReactor site, come to canada :)

Wow! That's the best news I've heard in a while.