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| swog (Newbie) 11 February 2005 7:03 |
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So on one hand he's asking for donations to fight the fight on behalf of all Bittorrent supporters - a noble cause - which prompted me to respond. Whilst on the other, it appears he's working on a deal with the Authorities to save his ass.
Everyones donations were given to fight, not to be used to pay off a personal fine.
And how does he thank us ....... by turning us all in.
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| leestrada (Junior Member) 11 February 2005 7:28 |
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Do you think people who post mp3's on newsgroups will get the same treatment from the RIAA.
I collect mp3's of oldies from the 50's and 60's, alot of stuff rare and out of print.
I can't believe they are gonna bust people for trading material that can't even be purchased in stores due to being in a moritorium status, what about old movies...is there really a public domain anymore or will the RIAA and the MPAA suck the life out of all of us. |
| SGSeries2 (Junior Member) 11 February 2005 7:47 |
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Money makes the world go 'round, or was that gravitational pull?
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| Mista_C (Newbie) 11 February 2005 8:09 |
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Wow...I actually get recognition. Thank you so much Dela :)
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| MrGrimace (Junior Member) 11 February 2005 8:21 |
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Correct me if I am wrong but the MPAA is currently only looking into moive piracy right? So (at least for a little while) TV Piracy is unmonitored?
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| Ne007 (Junior Member) 11 February 2005 8:51 |
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I wonder how the court can order someone to stop something that isn't illegal? Are they making up their own laws and rules? Are they serving the people or the almighty dollar?
Someone should REALLY look into what court ordered this and question them on what authority they were acting.
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| captflint (Junior Member) 11 February 2005 9:02 |
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Ok, I've just gotta reply!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I suppose everyone here has forgotten that the 2 giants, are actually UNION BASED, which brings this right back to US, I mean WE.
In order to change things, VOTING MUST TAKE PLACE, to correct the proper changes, for instance: mpaa gets in the way of EVERY picture MADE, by making SURE that the film makers are practicing ACTUAL acting, film, and sound, THEY will not let CGI into film without THIER say so, AND how much.
Every director has approached the mpaa to ASK permission to enter CGI, then they were given "THE RUNDOWN" of the 5 ?'s
I for one, cant wait for those AGING F^(%r$ to DIE!!!!!!!!!
Errors have been made. Others will be blamed.
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| Dela (Staff Member) 11 February 2005 9:22 |
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Wow...I actually get recognition. Thank you so much Dela :)
Well you submitted it first before i noticed it online so you were basically my source :-) |
| Toiletman (Senior Member) 11 February 2005 11:24 |
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Sad.
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| billy3171 (Newbie) 11 February 2005 13:35 |
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I’m an IT graduate student studying security and I’ve followed the RIAA and MPAA struggle since Napster. I’m amazed. What are they thinking? Napster - P2P – BitTorrent; Is John Malcolm and his organization really stupid enough to think it will stop there? The jails and prisons are over flowing. The courts are backed up and under funded for the next decade. Is Steve Jobs the only one involved on that side with an IQ over 80?
Oh, and by the way. I went legitimate last week. Signed up for Napster bought a few songs, felt really good about it; being I’m all grown up now and living within “RIAA’S rules”. Then I do a little reading about DMRs. I don’t think so. I’m so angry I can’t believe the feudal system that’s developed. So, I will purchase a streaming recorder tomorrow and not give it a second thought.
Selfishness is the root of all evil. |
| marcuri (Newbie) 11 February 2005 14:31 |
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napster is the worst of all of them. at least itunes you own the songs.
as soon as you stop subscribing to napster.. guess what? no more songs...
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| nonoitall (Member) 11 February 2005 17:00 |
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All I can say is this is absolutely disgusting. It's no longer a justice system; it's a legal system. It seems like they'll stop at nothing to keep everyone in the stone age and stop technology's growth.
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| Toiletman (Senior Member) 12 February 2005 7:12 |
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Mankind's evolution will ultimately lead to its own destruction.
Everyone is entitled to their own true opinion. Either respect that or don't.
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| MSTFreak (Newbie) 12 February 2005 8:05 |
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lets get to the major issue here... the MPAA has all our info logged in their servers. what the hell is gonna happen to us? knowing the relentlessness of the MPAA, they'll probably sue us all one by one. im kidding, but seriously, what are they gonna do? put a list of ip's on the wall and throw a darts?
bastards make you feel like your livin' in a communist country! who knows when their coming to drag ya away :)
personally, i'm shocked to find out lokitorrent actually handed over the logs of activity. what the hell were they thinking?
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| marcuri (Newbie) 12 February 2005 11:27 |
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well lets hope that the logs they agreed to hand over where nothing but the ips of people who visited the site.
i can only hope thats the case after the community poured out easily over $60,000 of its own money.
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| daemonzx6 (Senior Member) 12 February 2005 15:37 |
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only the IPs!?
let's hope that there were no logs to begin with, or that it was just logs of when users log on and off, only showing usernames and times.
I honestly can't believe that Loki would give up after asking for so much money, and getting it.
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| Slelneckr (Newbie) 12 February 2005 17:42 |
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Look, Loki busted his gut and bankbook creating one of the best torrent sites ever seen. Have some faith in the guy. He's probably doing and saying what he has to do to stay out of jail or avoid total financial ruin. He can't come out and say "yeah, I gave them logs full of useless crap" or he's screwed. His life as he knew it is over - which is a lot more than most of us would put on the line for the scene. Maybe we'll find out the whole story someday. Meanwhile, if you're not mad enough, check out this article: http://yahoo.pcworld.com/yahoo/article/0,aid,119041,00.asp Afterdawn and the other video sites are the next target. Really pisses me off! They've got the last buck they'll every see from me! |
| Pop_Smith (Senior Member) 12 February 2005 18:16 |
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I found out an interesting fact the other day. I was at school and normally I can't access this site as it is "illegal" according to the school (as it contains ways to LEGALLY backup your movies, games, etc.) but, I can now and have been able to access it for about 4 months now. Maybe the creators of the web filter the school uses smartened up and saw that this site is PERFECTLY LEGAL. :D.
Pop Smith
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| penroid (Newbie) 13 February 2005 7:46 |
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I've been told that in canada,holland and the uk,information cannot be used as evidence against a user under the data protection act.Anybody know if that's right.
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| Toiletman (Senior Member) 13 February 2005 7:54 |
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After this, many people will probably not donate when a torrent site asks for donations. "Who knows if they'll screw us over?!?!"
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I've been told that in canada,holland and the uk,information cannot be used as evidence against a user under the data protection act.
What they really mean is, "Information cannot be used as evidence against a user under the data protection act., if you don't have enough green." =)
Everyone is entitled to their own true opinion. Either respect that or don't.
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| bbcaw2 (Inactive) 13 February 2005 15:00 |
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| marcuri (Newbie) 13 February 2005 15:45 |
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thanks for the link bbcaw2
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| Pop_Smith (Senior Member) 13 February 2005 16:07 |
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| glitchead (Newbie) 13 February 2005 22:04 |
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Hi Everybody
It looks like the MPAA will get the Raspberry Award for Pissing Into the Wind. I had a hunch this would blow over. I hope it's true.
Can't be said enough times: America is Dead. Murdered by the United States. People, get those servers out of Dodge.
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| BazNZ (Junior Member) 14 February 2005 6:10 |
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I say never sign up and register to any of these sites. Don't give out e-mails or any personal info. I never do. If you have to... falsify any info.
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| daemonzx6 (Senior Member) 14 February 2005 9:59 |
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Lets hope that article was correct and that the only logs are of torrent downloading and that the other logs were purged every day. Good thing I haven't downloaded anything from Loki recently.
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