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13 July 2005 18:12 by James "Dela" Delahunty
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Echoing the same result in most countries, the Irish Recorded Music Association (IRMA) which is like the Irish version of the RIAA, has won a battle to get the identities of file sharers it alleges to have shared copyrighted music through P2P networks illegally. The High Court in Dublin ruled on July 8th that ISPs in the country have to hand over the subscriber details of 17 file sharers which ill then be sued by IRMA. The IRMA praised the high courts decision.
"We will now be writing to the 17 individuals informing them of the seriousness of their actions. We will offer them the opportunity of settling the action. If they refuse our settlement terms, we will be forced to pursue the matter through the Courts. This is a last resort for the music industry. We hope that this decision will jolt others, particularly parents of teenagers, to realize that unauthorized file sharing is illegal and has consequences" Dick Doyle, Director General of IRMA commented.
The IRMA blames filesharing for a huge portion of the €28 million drop in music sales in Ireland. The question of privacy is always unanswered in these cases. While these file sharers might have been uploading music illegally to other file sharers, you have to question the legality of inspecting files in a users' shared folders, as a Dutch judge did just days ago when he declined to force ISPs to hand over details to anti-piracy foundation Brein.
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| nonoitall (Member) 13 July 2005 23:28 |
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When it comes to privacy and security vs. money, the former rarely wins these days. In fact, money beats just about anything. Pretty sad.
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| ricey1 (Newbie) 14 July 2005 0:56 |
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Ha im in Ireland Cant wait 4 my letter...lol
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| hego (Inactive) 14 July 2005 5:22 |
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Hey im from ireland2, what exactly can you get sued for? (Im in enough depth as it is )like is it just for downloading songs, or do people have to download them from me to get me in2 trouble?
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| Dela (Staff Member) 14 July 2005 7:19 |
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Uploading. Research firm downloads a song from you, records your IP address, hands it with evidence to IRMA (or IFPI), ISPs can then be forced to give your personal info, you are sued!
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| hego (Inactive) 14 July 2005 8:17 |
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I think ill be ok then, iv downloaded a load of songs from limewire and winmx but never let anyone download it from me, cheers... Iv given up an P2P's now anyway
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| ricey1 (Newbie) 14 July 2005 12:26 |
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ya think il b ok 2 fook them anyway
never use p2p jus private torrent trackers
should b ok there i hope but if not FOOK EM
i aint goin stopping.
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| jaehomo (Member) 15 July 2005 6:39 |
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is there any organisation like the EFF helping with these sort of cases in ireland? Maybe they could say whether the same privacy issue that arose in holland could be pointed to here...
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| ricey1 (Newbie) 15 July 2005 6:54 |
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The law in Ireland is up the wall`s
the last thing that is going to make
them worry is p2p downloading so i
wouldnt worry 2 much.
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| Dela (Staff Member) 15 July 2005 7:18 |
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being irish i also have to point out the problems with law enforcement here, i know one guy for example who's in trouble for threatening someone with a knife.... he's bee charged for "firearms" ??? wtf??
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| whoozhe (Junior Member) 15 July 2005 10:24 |
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"unauthorized file sharing is illegal"
Just where on any CD does it say that.
If I send a file in a cake to any of those hard core downloading criminals would I be guilty of sharing a file?
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| moonstone (Newbie) 16 July 2005 20:42 |
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I guess, I still struggle with the words "personal use" when it comes to making copies of any kind of format be it music or movies. It used to be that you tape recorded music off the radio to listen to, same with tv shows and movies, they were taped to VHS from your tv, for later viewing and listening pleasure. Now, we have the internet. Isn't it the same thing? Only a different method? I've also made the assumption that if I pay to download music then that website that I paid the $$ to is obtaining the music in a fair manner, or reimbursing someone.
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| neilm247 (Member) 17 July 2005 13:37 |
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I saw this in The Times a while ago where of course they wrote about some nonsense regarding downloaders getting the letters. On a related topic I read somewhere on the net that users needed a minimum of 500 songs to be shared for IRMA to proceed with "action". In the future this amount will be lowered but at the moment 500 is the magic number for IRMA.
Would partial sharing of songs such as Bittorrent or other applications lead to prosecutions?
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| Ghostdog (Senior Member) 19 July 2005 11:21 |
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In Finland we have women named Irma.
: )
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| runner121 (Inactive) 19 July 2005 20:33 |
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YEAH! Irma's cool name man
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