that's another reason i went with Creative, Kinza :D

yes, in adittion to that it is soo expensive.

never before has it been more economical to defy the mainstream and be relatively unique in a world of electronic technology.....and i'm loving it.

the only thing now is for the average person to realize the insensibility of buying an ipod.

why anyone would actulaly want to play WMA at all is beyond me. the songs are terrible quality and i don't even consider myself to be much of a 'sound quality buff'. YOu can put .mp3 files onto an iPod...there's a standard fo ryou right there.
Format issues are a mute point as far as Windows media audio is concerned.
Dan x

they've got their good points. they're on the cutting edge with this stuff...i just feel that creative does it for a lot better amount of cash, lol. for you ipod fanboys out there, i'm not a creative fanboy. i'll use anything as long as it's cheap and good. lol, my agenda isn't against ipod...it's against republicans!!!!XD

spooky, it depends on your encoding. i rip my cds at a mathematically lossless setting to wma and i love the sound of it. my creative re-encodes to a lower bitrate, but it's still wma and i hear not difference whatsoever.

same here, i actually prefer .wma, i bought a ptunes for my pda for $30 because that was the only program that could play wma's

lol, kinza, you're starting to make me feel a lot less lonely out here in ipod country...i was thinking i'd have to fight off those insane cultists alone there for a moment :-P

ipod hatred is mutual amongst the sensible. djscoop hates mac, he has that sig.

if only i had a katana...

*swings his arms wildly at ipods*

i don't have a problem with Mac...if they're stuff worked mor universally, i'd use it...but then again, i hate M$...*can't win*

I get frustrated when I think that people actually go through converting all their music and still think ipods are the best thing in the world.

it doesn't make any sense to me, either.

Why would they use a name that Creative is already using? Is that even legal? Can another company come out with something like a rio ipod? Or is it simply that Apple can get away with anything in the mp3 market?

so ipod can only read AAC. what is AAC? So if i get a ipod how can i listen to my songs in my computer.
What kind of format should i make my song to? Best sound. I get my music at Peer to peer.

Re AAC: Most players like winamp have an AAC plugin. I think mp4 is similar to or the same as AAC.
Unfortunately, if you're converting from mp3 to AAC or vice versa you are losing some quality each time.

linux, Auslander, l i n u x...

i love linux, and desperately want it, but i don't want to give my games... :( and i'm not gonna run a bunch of emulators, either. i'm stuck with XP until a user-friendly version of linux pops up...something that can use MS proggies/games with relative ease XD

MAN!
There milkin this IPod thing as much as they possibly can arnt they.


Will the madness EVER STOP!?!?!?

I've NEVER had to convert one song when transferring to my iPod. I don't know why everyone seems to think that you have to convert your music before you put it on your iPod. Maybe a ripped version of a song, but all my songs are .mp3s and I haven't had to convert any.

Hunter007

@Hunter007

I think users of ipod convert other file fprmats to mp3 because of the compression so they can fit more songs than they could if the file was in another type of format... Otherwise u can just leave it on ur pc's and have more space than u would ever have on an ipod :)

hm, this guy is happy with his creative zen 5gb. Maybe less fancy than ipod but also nice design, good quality, replacable battery and if you flash the firmware of the player it gets 100% compatible with media player and xp. I mostly use cdex and lame for grabbing my cds to mp3 and afterwards I just drop the files on my zen using standard xp-explorer. No need to install any kinda driver, its all in xp sp2. What more do you need? For me no ipod please.

@rihgt682

For your future questions... try http://www.acronymfinder.com/

I have two co-workers that both own a Nano.

They play MP3 and AAC only.

The ITunes application will convert just about any format to AAC before copying to the Nano. This includes WMA. You will have an AAC copy of you WMA files so your disk space will take a hit.

As far as "Why anyone would want to use WMA format". I only use it for books on tape. FM quality sounds excellent and takes a very little disk space. Many MP3 players do not support Mono MP3's; but, all WMA compatible players support Mono WMA. MP3 FM quality is terrible (lisping and digital burbling are common).

I've never tried AAC; but, most things Apple does is excellent.

Regarding the Creative Labs Zen. It worked well and I liked the blue light and the interface. If you have any MP3 larger than 7 minutes long then good luck FF and REW. I have 45 Minute books on tape recorded and if I can't FF past the 7 minute mark then I can't use it. Another thing. Try Rewinding past the beginning of a song and see what it does (not what you'd expect).

Personally, I have the Rio Carbon. I do hate the 15 to 20 second start up time; but, it can do all the things I need in a player and the Rio music manager is multi-threaded so you can add and remove songs while files are being copied to the player.

I'd love to try the Ipod Nano. I don't like the idea of having all my WMA's duplicated as AAC's though.

You don't want the nano. my bro got it and took really good care of it, it was all scratched and looked 5 years old in two days.

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i love linux, and desperately want it, but i don't want to give my games... :( and i'm not gonna run a bunch of emulators, either. i'm stuck with XP until a user-friendly version of linux pops up...something that can use MS proggies/games with relative ease XD

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Off topic but...: Then what you need is a Mac my friend. I work with Linux and Solaris for a living and I recently sold my home PC (after finishing Half Life 2 of course) and bought a G5. It's built on BSD Unix, which should satisfy your Linux fetish, it's far more user-friendly than XP and you'd be surprised at just how much software is released for both the PC and the Mac, only for the Mac version to be superior in quality and performance.