HAHHAH even Microsoft is ripping on SucONY!! Good for them. Its about time, companies start sticking up for the consumer. SUcks for you sonyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Never thought Bill Gates would step away from the dark side (corpprete amarica) and side with the cunsmers ...this only means Sony is in really big trouble I mean really Bill Gates hates the government and now hes fighting with anouther compainy over crap they are installing in his (and only his not mac or lenux) operating system

I would not put too much stock into microsoft's goodwill measure againest the Sony Xcp rootkit.

More often than not microsoft is usually IN BED WITH PEOPLE LIKE SONY.

Face it all the big corporate moguls embrace drm and they use piracy as a lame excuse to rip off legitimate business customers.

I would not trust microsoft any furthur than i could throw them.

i don't trust M$ too much, but i'm hoping this is a good sign. i haven't yet had to deal with this xcp crap, and now it looks like i won't have to :D

sure, something worse will probably come out soon. but for now, this is good.

again.. this is why i luv my mac.. i dont have that issue..

would microsoft have done it if there WASN'T an uproar about it? HMMM....

It may seem a bit fishy that MS is goin against Sony, but its better that there goin to fight than the lil consumer.

On the flip side MS might get there hands on the code and create somethin harder to break.

Catch 22

Why is it wierd that Microsoft would jump on a bandwagn aginst Sony. Sony is the creater of the PS3 you know. Politically this couldn't have happend at a better time as far as microsoft is concerned. Maybe this slip up by Sony will cause thier more intelligent customers to think about the next Sony product they buy especially since other companies care about thier customers so much.

I don't think MS is in bed with Sony. They are in competition in just about every way. Plus Sony's DRM only hampers MS customers, ruining the windows entertainment experience, and it seems that Sony didn't let MS know anything about this rootkit design. I think Bill is legitimatly pissed. What Sony did is a prime example of bad biz.

Ced

I agree with diabolos. I am definitely considering on not buying anymore sony products. I definitely not going to buy a PS3, going for a XBox 360. I know thats what M$ wants everyone to think but I just don't support what $ony stands for at this moment.

No more $ony for this guy.

I told my car pool that I'd finally give him my PS2 and accessories instead of gas/toll money (he's been wanting it for a few months now). As of now, I am no longer an owner of any Sony product. I even pulled my Sony DVD-R out of my HTPC and replaced it with a competing brand of RW (Up till this BS I had planned on replacing it with another Sony DVD-RW but can only wonder what they've done to their firmware to somehow screw me AND my system over)

For others with Sony HW, think about the firmware installed and even harder about the updates!

As for the Xbox 360...looks like Billy Boy will get quite a bit of money off me this X-Mas

i just played the xbox 360 in best buy. nothing impressive, my pc has better graphics... i'll wait for the ps3, and the revolution to come out... "companies start sticking up for the consumer"... microsoft?? very naive...

As i sat yesterday in my business class and the professor was speaking about brand loyalty and it made me reflect on Sony. Microsoft is on the verge of launching the xbox 360 and now with this, ALOT of consumers, have left SOny because of repeated offenses and ethical lapse. I for one was loyal to sony in everything for the quality products they have given me over the years. When the slimline v12came with a crappy laser i stayed loyal. No longer will i live in my ignorance. Microsoft just slapped sony in the face with with the beta software detecting sony's rootkit. Farewell sony... and to your shabby products and suck firmwares for the psp and other products. SONY YOU SUCK.

one last comment on the delay of the ps3 if consumers are going to spend 300-400 on the xbox 360 i highly doubt they will buy a ps3. NOW is the time to compete stupid idiots. i hate sony!!!

Agree with above post. Nothing to do with the Ps3 and xbox 360 *wink wink* and has nothing to do with the fact that sony are trying to force blu-ray on the world and microsoft has backed HD-DVD.

"force blu-ray on the world"... jeez, relax dudes.. you guys make it sound so dramatic... microsoft vs. sony, who gives a f... throw your sony tv thru the window, and buy and xbox for xmas, but i think you need a girlfriend or, buy yourself a dog, get a life man...

I wonder why? There must be something in it for Microsoft, "Consumer protection" my butt, what about the spyware that ships with XP, (do a fresh install of XP and before connecting to anything run an Adaware scan, you will get a hit, I can't remember the name but it starts with an A)

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I only own one sony product and don't work no more. I wasn't affected by the XCP and i am not a loyal sony customer. I won't by any future products of sony. In the future don't capitalize the S in sony as they are now inferior.

...another drama queen...

I am not buying anymore peanut M&Ms... i'm on a diet!!

don't capitalize the "M"... people might get offended... LOL

Of course M$ is making a lot of noise and "standing up for the consumer": it's the first opportunity they've had to try and look good.
An imaginary parallel would be a "world leader" whose nation/worldwide unpopularity has rocketed to an alltime high, announcing a gazzillion-dollar war against - oh, I don't know - let's say Bird Flu.

Hearts of gold, the pair of them. Not a self-serving bone in their bodies.

It has messed up my pc already, due to putting some warnings from AntiVir in quarantine which have now disappeared,my DVD-ROM and DVD-Burner have dissapeared from my pc and are nowhere to be found!
Moving Upper - and Lowerfilters from my registry did not help at all.
Any help would be appreciated!

just info and a good read
cheers

Sony BMG aims to amend XCP CD users with MP3s & new CDs

Posted by Seán Byrne on 20 November 2005 - 01:17 - Source: Reuters - Technology News
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/12714
When Sony initially started its Digital Audio Player Walkman series, they were totally against the MP3 format, however after very poor sales, they added MP3 support on their later Walkman series. Now, after causing so much grief and anger with their XCP rootkit based copy protection software, Sony BMG has finally announced that it would do anything it possibly can to amend the customers who have been affected.

So Sony BMG has decided to do one thing that no one would ever dream of Sony Corp. nor Sony BMG doing, by e-mailing the affected customers a link to their website where they can download unprotected MP3 tracks of their affected CDs as part of the exchange programme. 4.7 million CDs with the XCP software have been recalled and customers can send back their affected CDs for replacement unprotected CDs of the same titles in return.

Due to further controversy over the security issues of Sony BMG's recent uninstall tool, the company has announced that they would make a new uninstall tool available. Unfortunately, this will not be the end of copy-protection either for the company as they still emphasise that it is an important tool for protecting their own and the artists' intellectual property rights. Thanks to Hypnosis4U2NV who used our news submit to let us know about the following news:

In an attempt to make up with consumers whose PCs have been exposed to unsecure copy-protection software which acts like malware, music publisher Sony BMG said on Friday it would swap unsecure CDs for new unprotected disks as well as unprotected MP3 files.

The music publishing venture of Japanese electronics conglomerate Sony Corp. and Germany's Bertelsmann AG had already said last week it would temporarily suspend the manufacture of music CDs containing the controversial copy-protection technology.

The XCP copy-protection programme, developed by British software firm First4Internet and used by Sony BMG to restrict copying and sharing of music CDs, acts like virus software and hides deep inside a computer where it leaves the backdoor open for malicious hackers.

Sony BMG, after announcing a recall of some 4.7 million CDs with the software on Wednesday, said on Friday consumers could mail their CDs to the company, and they would receive a new unprotected CD in return.

Pending the processing of the exchange programme, consumers would also receive an email with details of a Website where they could download the music tracks as unprotected MP3 files.

It seems like Sony has finally given up with the copy-protection on the 52 affected discs. Then again from what I can see, offering MP3 versions of the tracks is not going to make piracy any worse either since chances are that the tracks of all 52 CDs would likely be widely shared at this point, not to mention that the only people who were affected by this nasty software were those who have actually got the official CDs! However, at least the consumers can play these replacement tracks on any MP3 player, including iPods and not just those supporting some form of DRM.

read more here
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/259010

jack020

post here so your problem can be noticed
http://forums.afterdawn.com/forum_view.cfm/44

Thanks mod!

I have a great feeling that this is all about x-Box 360 versus ps3.