besides no body uses the product verification online they just go onto p2p networks and download updates

no offense but that isn't true in the least.

Wow... guess i need to come in and clear things up a bit... first off... if your machine fails the genuine advantage program... the computer will still take all critical updates.. just not the extra ones, also you can not download other free software titles.. like windows media player 10.. things of that nature. Also.. you can get legit copies of windows xp for $99. Its called OEM software .. requirements are purchasing at least one piece of hardware related to a new system.. mobo.. cpu.. hard drive.. As for ebay priates.. it does kind of anger legit users that sell or have ebay stores... when some one priates software titles it makes it harder for legit compainies to compete.

Anyone who buys pirated software and uses it where others can identify it are asking for trouble. For
randyz48, check out removed You can get all the cheap software you want, (and it all works) just use it privately. My main complaint with MS is that after about 6 acctivations you have to go through the phone process to get the dam thing to work. When you buy a car you dont have to ring up the manufacturer after 6 starts to get permission to use it.

Good, these idiots deserve that and more. One thing is downloading something for yourself and another is to try to make a profit from someone else's product. Good or bad, no one has the right to profit from a product that doesn't belong to them.

Why do some always bring up crappy Linux and Mac every time Microsoft is mentioned? Linux is garbage, not user friendly at all.

That's all for now,
Adonis

Anyone stupid enough to do that deserves to be sued.

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if the government was replaced by a corporation

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Linux is garbage

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That's relative to the work that you do.

Microsoft updates can easily be obtained without using the windows genuine advantage on some websites that I have found recently!

Bill Gates and his greedy stockholders can take a fucking flying leap!

Microsoft can burn in hell forever and ever. When it was exposed years ago in california that their profit point begins around $37.00 for a $130.00 product, they lost my vote. Greed in this country is a horrible thing but i am not about to extoll my disdain on someone who uses a product or worse still sells a pirated version of that product (which is just plain stupid) compared to a company who actively has sought to screw over consumers, screw over competition and all the while do it with a smile. I can understand a person who is greedy (to an extent)but in this country a corporation exists in every legal way as an actual person and that corporate person has more rights than any individual on the street. The people that sing the graces of Uncle Mickisoft are the same people who think Jim Carey should get 20 mil a picture or Shaquille should get 115 mil contract all because they CAN ask for it and yet at the same time bitch and moan about cable, movie, dish rates constantly going up. They can wallow in their ignorance but for me, give me the red pill.

Gee I am really out of touch and a different generation. Yeah we were told if it doesn't belong to us we don't take it and many of us stil live by that rule. Of course the ME generation thinks everything should be free; enough said.

wow...never met anyone in that generation before.....i thought this was America...the land of COVETING what they neighbor had and then buying something even better. Consumerism and Materialism abound in this country where some people get a deal and most everyone else gets stiffed in one degree or another. One day when you wake up and realize your water is costing you 3.00 a gallon and your legs tire from all the bicycle peddling while you car rusts in your garage, then come back and tell me about your wear it on your sleeve integrity!

It isn't about being stiffed, it is about honesty and integrity. It is about knowing the simple difference between right and wrong, and for some it is about the McNaughton rule or Twinkie defense, depends on perspective and real values in life. To each his own.

When does honesty and integrity come into play when corporations maintain a bottom line by not following this little thing we call ethics? Will you say enough is enough when these greedy giants fill your life so full of their shit even you cant stand the smell or will you just sit there continuing to gobble it down with an "opie" smile in one hand and a thank you in the other. Let's be real, every product has a fair value and a fair profit. If loan companies cannot charge you beyond a certain interest rate without the govt stepping in, why can a company like microsoft effectively charge for something that is really beyond its value with any similar reproach? Do i think everyone should go out and steal their products? No, i think they shouldn't buy them in the first place. Do i in the very least feel sorry for Microsoft because someone steals their product? Not in the least bit! Last point.....i love how the older generation loves to impugn the "new" generation for stealing MUSIC (another consumer ripoff) by downloading MP3s but somehow manage to take small issue about taping stuff off the radio or from a friend or taping shows and football games off tv.

Government is Big business and Big business is Government. Greed is run by Big business and Government. Anybody who has money can run a business or go into politics.

I agree, why are some of the software so pricey?
Not everybody can choose what software they want at the price they can afford unless they have the money to buy a legal copy which will cost a week's wages or two. Most of my hard earn cash is going in my gas tank.

Unfortnately, everybody wants something for nothing.

Unfortunately, everybody wants something for nothing
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Somebody wants everything for nothing.

i get every piece of ms software for free completely legit, got to love msdn

It is up to each individual whether they have a fabric of character and values or can always argue that it is big brother or the companies cheating them so why not? I love the Opie analogy funny but not true. Many like myself protest, write letters to our elected officials, use consumer action groups, and are wise enough to use the free software that is open source. Not having a conscience is and individual thing. Like I said earlier to each his own, but one does have to admit society digresses with greed not just from corporations but from each person with those acts. One other thought on a Capitalist society, prices are based upon what the consumer will pay in a free market. If a higher percentage quits paying for inferior software you can bet the price will come down. Yeah Microsoft has become a real corporate monopoly, but eventually what goes around comes around.

Robin Williams on bill gates " bill people say you are trying to hold the monopoly in the computer world " bill replies " monopoly is only a game I am trying to take over the Fu88ing world"

Bill hicks said "wake up america, you are free to do what we tell you to do"

now right from wrong good from bad. So who decides what. Me I will watch a few eppisodes from bill hicks then make my own mind up as I go along. No fixed set of rules for me ladies and gents. Theres no book can explain all decisions to be made. Every set of circumstances are different while they will make rules for us and then change to suit themselves and we are mere mortals. Sorry half of you are mere mortals. Me am just me.

i certainly dont have faith in any kind of cosmic karma John nor do i think that millions of people will wake up anytime soon. Apathy and Attributional bias blind most people on issues such as the one we are discussing (including those with intentions such as yourself).
On topic i dont have any sympathy for those who sold pirated goods (anyone should know better and they were asking to get caught and your statement about people wanting something for free (in that case a living) holds true. I do not, however have such disdain for those who run a corporate version of xp while shelving their licensed version because they feel MS activation is invasive and a burden or even to those who have a crappy computer they scratched together and are running a downloaded version because they cannot afford another $100. Microsoft should tap in the marketplace and provide a product (perhaps without the frills and very basic) for around half that. I think most would agree that piracy (at least in the US) would go down substantially for their product. Did you know that 42 state governments and almost all state universities local colleges use MS products? That sort of thing kind of puts you over a barrel if you are on a budget and literally need it for only a couple of projects during a semester or need it to open some state file you downloaded (thankfully pdf is being embraced more and more and MS viewers are out there).

Before pressing 'Custom' or 'Express' buttons paste this text to the address bar and press enter:

javascript:void(window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all')

It turns off the trigger for the key check.


On another note, people really do use the official windows update to officially update their computer (that's ironic hey). If they had bought a copy of Windows and they didn't suspect they got a pirated one, of course they are going to be pissed off and complain to Microsoft. I just hope those people that complained got a real copy of the OS.

Briantgb,

Don't post that site again please

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Well what pisses me off about MS is they make us pay $299 for XP Pro and if you know someone at MS you can get it for $35. If you want Office Pro it will cost you what $500? I can get it for $65 .. that is why people pirate MS products.

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I had a friend whose computers i worked on and her fiance worked for microsoft. I got a 3 pack of XP Pro for nada and yet i still hate the freaking company.

Hell!! The point still remains the reason why everbody pirates stuff is because everthing is just SO damn expensive (especially in England!) and lets face 97% of people England/America DO own some kind of pirated software wether it be DVD, PS2, XBOX, PS1, MP3's etc etc.

Sorry john t, the "me generation" are you american my friend?, "the land of the free" well as you say its not right to steal, know the difference between right and wrong, well look to the whitehouse my friend, we need oil we go kill a few thousand folks and take it.Is that the same Goverment who says to download a song is stealing, is it okay to invade a country on account they have some oil, killing innocents lives both your own brothers and sisters regardless of whos side you take, come on my friend theres worse crimes being commited than a someone who is on the breadline stealing a song or downloading some bad quality movie.We as a world have to share this planet together regardless of your color faith etc, big corporations run goverments to benefit themselves without any regard for anyone else, lets change that attitude before we do anything else, lets get equality among our fellow manwoman and share the wealth of the world nefore we go chasing people in poverty to feed the rich.Greed is a drug that we allow our goverments to spread throughout the world, it will end when 1 man has everything and everything is destroyed.

i wish i could be at a microsoft conference and post this up.FUCKING BRILLIANT FOIR ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT HATE BILL GATES.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1960403143809172490&q=bill+gates


ITS JUST HIM GETTING HIS HAS HANDED BY A US LAWYER OR SOMETHING WHEN MICROSOFT GOT LABELLED AS AN ILLEGAL MONOPOLY.

Monopolies stifle progress. There is no way around it.

The electric company is a monopoly. Oh! There aren't alternatives to electricity? Look up radiant energy, it was devised a long time ago but however, free energy for profit only companies doesn't appeal to them.

The banks, ever asked yourself why they control the interest rates? Last time I checked, corporations shouldn't control what happens in our economy.

In every facet of our daily lives, we live in a world riddled with monopolies, and that in effect, stifles any new ideas that could potentially revolutionize humanity.

First, a patent will only be considered if it is profitable. If it benefits humanity for free, it will never see the light of day.

So does that say about us as a race? We are greedy. Perhaps not all of us, but most of us yes.

But the real question is, why don't we protest against monopolies? Are we just too comfortable settling with what is already out?

Thats the real question...

Monopolies will be the death of our species, already multinationals and corporations and etc, are effectively draining all our ressources and in the end the environment will buckle on us, and humanity will be a past memory.