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| plutonash (Member) 26 April 2006 19:03 |
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not withstanding TDK's terrible DVD media they now want to sell inkjet BD-R. Its a know fact if you value your DVDs you never print labels on them as any inbalance will basically leave you with a Coaster.
"TDK BD-R is the perfect solution for our customers who will be using high-capacity BD-R media for backup and archival, data storage, high-definition video and a host of other cutting-edge applications."
Yeah right... why all the DRM then f'en liars.
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| hot_ice (Senior Member) 26 April 2006 20:09 |
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If anything, you never put labels on your dvd's, ive put some, and the end result was a no play!
So its the same crap on a different format, youpee!
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| hovis71 (Inactive) 27 April 2006 0:28 |
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You guys are full of sh*t, ive put many of labels on dvds and cds and never had a problem with it. You just have to center it on and make sure the edges dont hang over or you will have problems, as for imbalace of the labels youd have to be pretty f*cking blind and have bad arthritis to really screw up the label so that the "imbalancing" feature becomes a problem.
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| OzMick (Inactive) 27 April 2006 3:36 |
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Uhh, guys, they're talking about inkjet printables. I don't think a few MICROlitres of ink is going to affect the balance of a disc. It hasn't done a thing to any DVDs of mine. What I WOULD worry about is damage to the disc itself with Bluray, there isn't much between the polycarbonate and the data, and if you're handling the disc in a printer tray there is a high risk of scratches, which the Bluray is NOT going to be tolerant of.
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| plutonash (Member) 27 April 2006 4:33 |
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"You guys are full of sh*t, ive put many of labels on dvds and cds and never had a problem with it. You just have to center it on and make sure the edges dont hang over or you will have problems, as for imbalace of the labels youd have to be pretty f*cking blind and have bad arthritis to really screw up the label so that the "imbalancing" feature becomes a problem."
Could you be more full of shit? Check out <grasps> Ad own DVD blank media forum forums located at <gasps> http://forums.afterdawn.com/forum_view.cfm/47What are going to recommend next the Memerex Media is the bomb or its alright to label DVDs with inkball pens.
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| Dela (Staff Member) 27 April 2006 8:16 |
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Quote: You guys are full of sh*t, ive put many of labels on dvds and cds and never had a problem with it. You just have to center it on and make sure the edges dont hang over or you will have problems, as for imbalace of the labels youd have to be pretty f*cking blind and have bad arthritis to really screw up the label so that the "imbalancing" feature becomes a problem.
Try to keep news comments as news comments. If you have something to say persona;lly to a member (or 2), they have PM inboxes.
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| hovis71 (Inactive) 27 April 2006 16:16 |
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Hey whatever, im just stating an opinion about the fact that labeling a cd/dvd is no big deal and that its hard to imbalance a cd/dvd OzMick is right, the little ink you do use is no big deal, and maybe we should actually read the article and understand whats really being talked about before bitching and moaning about something totally different
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| BUDDD (Newbie) 28 April 2006 8:31 |
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"TDK's exclusive recording material delivers remarkable, long-lasting performance,"
How long lasting?? weeks?? months?? Years?? decades???
And why "remarkable"???? It either works or it doesnt.
Salespeak bullsh*t..
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| vidserv (Newbie) 29 April 2006 14:47 |
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Some of you obviously don't understand inkjet technology. Do you have a better idea on how to get information on a disc? We duplicate (not replicate) hundreds of DVD's and CD's a month using Print Factory inkjet disc printers. We cannot give the customers discs with no labels!! The ink is printed directly on the disc. I cannot fathom that the amount of ink used on a disc can cause an imbalance any more than what is printed on a movie DVD would cause an imbalance. We never even had problems with the old paper labels (DVD's only, never CD's). The other option is thermal printing which we have no experience with but I have never heard of a problem with any of the current print technologies.
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| hot_ice (Senior Member) 29 April 2006 16:49 |
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No no no, the first guy swears, and the second claims he has a company.
Well, I am a private citizen, with no such company or no such inkjet machine that colour schemes whatever on the CD.
Personally, I am talking out of experience, that some labels make a movie or game hard to read, AND HOW CAN THIS BE FALSE IF IT IS THE DIFFICULTY I EXPERIENCED WITH THEM?!!?
Also, buddy, I don't see the average consummer printing ink directly on the cd or dvd, so yet again, good for you and your company.
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| OzMick (Inactive) 29 April 2006 17:36 |
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Whoa, chill out dude. Almost any half decent inkjet printer these days comes with a cartridge for doing CD/DVD labels. On what basis do you make the claim "average consumer"? The vast majority of discs I see these days are inkjet printable, odds are any you use are too. You can usually tell they are printable if they have a slightly matte feel to the surface.
Your own ignorance on the topic does not imply that it is out of the realm of the average user.
"I love it when a plan comes together..."
John "Hannibal" Smith
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29 April 2006 17:36
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| hot_ice (Senior Member) 29 April 2006 22:49 |
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Ozmick
I can refute your argument, however, it would be much easier to pass reference on Chris Rock's standup impression of Michael Jackson and sum it up in a whole word for you to get a feel of what I am saying...
"Yes!"
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| OzMick (Inactive) 30 April 2006 4:49 |
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*UNSUBSCRIBED*

"I love it when a plan comes together..."
John "Hannibal" Smith
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| vidserv (Newbie) 30 April 2006 10:34 |
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To the non believer, I do have a company (www.vidserv.com). As for consumer printers, Epson has a CD/DVD printer for around $100. As an average consumer, I would purchase one if I didn't have access to company equipment. As to playback problems, I have never seen any I could attribute to the inkjet label, just disc "write" errors (certain computer programs can even locate the disc error). As for TDK, our experience is they are good, not great, but good enough to use in an emergency since Costco sells them and we don't have to wait for a shipment. Our best experience has been with Fujii or Prodisc (which supposedly makes Fujii). Some bargain basement priced discs have shown a higher return and now with prices being so close between brands, we skip those altogether. There seems to be a connection between how "purple" the backside of the disc is and quality, probably due to the types of dies used. Deeper purple, better disc, but I cannot assume that. I would suggest to those that think inkjet printing causes problems to look for more logical reasons such as burn errors, bad discs, and even problems that some websites attribute to brands of DVD burners working less well with certain brands of discs.
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| hot_ice (Senior Member) 30 April 2006 11:40 |
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@Ozmick
I was simply illustrating that I wanted to deal with your premises jocularly, and if you choose to jump to conclusions with your senseless libel and choose to label me as ignorant in the process, good for you.
But I tell you this, "quotes are nothing but inspiration for the uninspired" and your inference has no merit whatsoever either in writing or at the very end of my day.
Regards,
H_I
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| heinlein (Newbie) 30 April 2006 22:13 |
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I am just an average guy who has used an Epson Stylus Photo R200 to print labels on hundreds of DVDs and CDs, this is a cheap readily available method of producing good looking discs without having to use stick-on labels which can have various problems.
I recently switched to Verbatim DVD+Rs after using Ridata discs for years so I don't have personal knowledge of TDK quality, but I am glad the printable discs are available for the new format as they are the solution to eliminate the problems NOT the cause.
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| sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 1 May 2006 15:15 |
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Wow, this thread deteriorated fast! I personally can't fathom how a label would cause a problem, but then I don't use them.
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| hot_ice (Senior Member) 1 May 2006 18:12 |
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Sammoris, this threat is just fine, don't concern yourself with trivialities.
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| flyingv (Member) 2 May 2006 7:32 |
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I believe everyone is overlooking one detal, the cost factor! Why in the world would anyone pay the price for these new disc in the first place (I hear $20/$25 for a single 25 GB disc!). DL DVD+/-'s are just now coming down to the point of where the majority of consumers, like myself, are willing to pay for them. So what if you can get 25 GB on one disc if it cost more than a new hard drive?!!! Is it going to hold 3 or 4 movies which my DVD player can play or even reconize? I'd just as soon use 3 DL's instead! As to the printable section of this comment, I personally have labeled at least 500 cd's in the past and NEVER had a playback problem as long as the label is centered correctly. With the "Devices" out there to center them for you, it is a no-brainer and as far as as printing directly onto the surface, that is the best way to do label any disc due to the weight of the ink v/s weight of a label. Luck to all!!!
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| sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 2 May 2006 8:14 |
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lol forget labels, I just use marker pens, no issues to date!
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| flyingv (Member) 2 May 2006 14:23 |
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I do the same thing also, sammorris, with my DVD's and now with most of my CD's also unless someone request something special, then I go all out for them. Markers have never given me a problem either. Thank-you for the added advice. Luck to all!!!
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| hot_ice (Senior Member) 2 May 2006 22:12 |
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Ya those indelible markers are definetely the way to go!
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