RIAA=RETARDS

Its not illegal to sell or own,
Its just illegel to use it.

I mean come on they sell crack pipes at the getty mart.

(sorry I didnt have time to read all the comments yet)

"We still would have to rent, or borrow a true copy. "-

I see your point, but not necessarily. Not anymore anyway.

"The sad thing about the MUSIC bussiness is just that ! It's not about the Music just bussiness !"-

Truer words have never been spoken.

"how can they emplace laws over the whole world?"-

They cant and they dont, just the U.S. ;hence the Recording Industry Association of AMERICA.

Honestly, i feel until the industry starts to produce better music and sell at reasonable prices, they shouldnt have anything to say. I dont know why they're so worried anyway, they're still rich. As long as the artists have fans, there will be people buying records. Like i and someone else earlier said, they need to focus more on the music side of things and less on making money. And importantly, if wack music is being made, people need to make sure it doesnt sell to stimulate a shift to more creativity. Too many people are supporting half-ass music now-a-days. I mean, as much as i like Hiphop( in particular), 90 percent of what is being sold had no buisness being on shelves in the first place.

As long as there are greedy lawyers and the good Ol' USA embrace them and their bloody law suits this sort of rubbish will never end.
It is getting to the stage where law suits bring in more income that a product.
The US hypocracy is laughable. Free enterprise, inovation and genuine creation falls way behind the fast money track of a law suit.
To hell with them. I'll find a quiet beach and play my banjo.

These People are just trying new ways to make money as cd sales are drying up...

Can someone tell me how the xm radio Pioneer Inno is any different to SKY+ I know one's radio & one's TV but functionalty wise they both do the same thing...

Yet SKY+ is perfectly legal for recording films and music channels...

Yeah funny that about sky+, that'll be the next thing to go. I'm sure I've seen evidence of the RIAA/MPAA or whatever enforcing legislation on countries other than the USA. Does anyone know where?

The premise of having a subscription to XM radio should work like this - I paid money to listen to these songs etc and I should be able to listen to them anytime i want, not when some Hollywood fat cat lawyer scum tells me to.It should work like cable or satellite tv with digital recorders, I record stuff and can watch it any time I want. Hollywood should be talking nice to XM about how much of the subscription fee they get for royalties to give to the artists instead of blowing millions of dollars on lawyers who are going to lose anyway.

>>>Hollywood should be talking nice to XM about how much of the subscription fee they get for royalties to give to the artists instead of blowing millions of dollars on lawyers who are going to lose anyway.




The RIAA doesn't give any of the money brought in from the XM revenue share to the artists, which is one of the points of contention that XM has. The RIAA claims they're suing for the benefit of the artists, however the artists get none of it. The revenue share to the RIAA goes to the copyright holders -- which is the record companies themselves. The only way the performers/composers get money is via the other revenue shares that XM pays to ASCAP, BMI and SESAC. The system is truly screwed up.

Currently, XM (and Sirius) pay 1% of their revenues to each -- ASCAP, BMI and SESAC. They also pay another 4% to the RIAA (via SoundExchange). In total, XM pays 7% of their revenues to these groups. Meanwhile, the deal between XM and the RIAA expires this year, and they're negotiating a new deal. XM claims this lawsuit is to initimidate them during these negotiations, because XM is ready and willing to let the negotiations go to binding arbitration through a CARP board... which could hurt the RIAA bad. The RIAA is looking to DOUBLE their revenue share with XM and Sirius -- claiming that they can pay big money for baseball, football and Howard Stern, so why not them. They seem to forget the fact that both companies have 80+ channels that have no music, so they should get ZERO revenue share from those channels. This is all screwed up from top to bottom. The RIAA is backed into a corner and desperate.

Putting numbers on the revenue shares... according to Bear Stearns estimates... XM is expected to bring in approximately $1.4 BILLION in revenue in 2007. With the RIAA getting the current 4% of that -- that comes to $56 million in money to them... and wanting it to double to over $100 million next year. With XM's increasing sub base (thus revenues) over the next 5-years -- the amount of revenue share the RIAA could bring in from XM alone -- if they get their share increased to 8% -- will bring them approximately $1 billion in payments. Think about that. That's from one company over the next 5 years -- yet they want to stifle these new portable products.

Total desperation, that could backfire. The artists continue to get screwed out of any of this money -- these companies hold their feet to the fire and force them into contracts that don't allow them any ownership percentage of the recordings, then keep all proceeds. It's really screwed up.

FYI, I work in the radio business and am a shareholder in XM and Sirius -- and follow them closely.

I think it's time for these greedy 800lb gorillas to be neutered by shotgun. Either an Executive Order or a law through Congress needs to be put into effect prohibiting lawsuits which seek to inhibit technology solely protect their markets and industries. Oh, and it wouldn't hurt to shoot a few of the lawyers filings these suits on prime time, either. Think I'm nuts? Read Sun Tzu...

Suing old ladies. Suing people who don't even own computers. Now this. This is a new low. It is so insanely stupid that even the RIAA must be going "Damn, did we actually do this???" And it's probably the best thing they could have done for us consumers. I wouldn't be surprised if some new laws are written to prevent this kind of nonsense. Much like the ones where you can no longer sue McDonalds because you're fat.

If the RIAA had any credibility before (and I emphasize the word IF) it is totally gone now. The backlash from this will likely turn the RIAA into the recording industry joke even to the proponents and the artists.

RIAA, you might consider renting a power washer. That's the only thing that's going to clean the massive amounts of egg on your face.

Curious.

RIAA's total cost of lawsuits VS. total amount received VS. cost of reputation.

I bet the numbers would indicate that the RIAA is batting 1000 in the loss dept.

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RIAA, you might consider renting a power washer. That's the only thing that's going to clean the massive amounts of egg on your face.

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The great thing about that is that that'd rip skin off the face. That'd go down quite well in my books!

i just saw a article on the front page of a circuit city sale paper with the inno in bright color for sale at 399.98 to hell with the RIAA you go circuit city even if you are trying to liquidate stock before the RIAA wins if they win maybe you can get it in the hands of one million people.come on RIAA got the money to sue one million people?

I know, some RIAA lawsuits are outrageous, this one's just hilarious.

Here is yet another RIAA story that we have to post on aD and inform people about.

What I would like to see is a week or a month when they do not make the headlines at all.

Although it may be a new article the basis of the articles are all the same. The RIAA are vulchers and just eat anone in their way.

How do people that work for the RIAA sleep at night...

These guys, RIAA , are just stupid!!! I think they lay around at night and think about new ways tho make our lives miserable!!! Where do they get all the money to follow thru with these lawsuits??? I couldn't live with myself if this was my job!!! I would rather flip burgers than know that I was responsable for the destruction of people who are just trying to make an honest living!!! All people want is to record some music, we've been doing it for 30+ years in one way or another. PLEASE RIAA, let it go!!!

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They get the money by suing people!

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Good point!!! Unfortunately it hurts us small guys. It is evident that they don't care who gets hurt doing so!!! LOL!!!

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And don't we know it!

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Imagine in 10 years time RIAA & MPAA have been successful all around the world - no music no films, no business, just silence. What will the lawyers do for a living then?

What happens when the individual movie companies and record companies finally realize that RIAA et al have put them out of business?

Of course, it will never happen, i just wanted to share a happy moment.

"The suit claims that users who have the device and subscibe to the $12.95-a-month service would no longer need to purchase digital music."

Uhhhh RIAA if your listening we dont need to "purchase" digital music anyway...ahh the wonders of technology :P This lawsuit is another joke and frankly im fed up with reading about these narrow minded pigs, who claim to protect "the artists rights".
Pfff what a joke your ptotecting your own $$$ streams.

wait...wait...wait....the RIAA is sueing becuse people can record from thier didtal radio??
all I have to say is WTF..................

One day, the RIAA will lose.. How soon that is, however, remains to be seen..

I dont know about you but on the xm sight they are giving a INNO away every week. Since I cannot afford one I am hoping to win or save my pennies and buy one. Yeah I know i am a optimist. Just remember the beer is 1/2 full.

$150,000 per song? Am I reading that right? Thats is absurd.
I don't care if the music industry makes 2 cents.
There is nothing stopping a subscriber form recording music by connecting their Satellite radio to any external recording device including a PC.
BTW I subscribe to SIRIUS Satellite Radio and can record hours and hours of music on my computer if I choose. And I feel no guilt in doing it because SIRIUS pays these assholes for me threw my subscription fees.

The RIAA will not lose, they have too much backing, and if they lose, some other creative group will take their place.

The assumption that the case is decided beforehand simply because the plaintiff is an belligerent 800lb gorilla with bad breath and crooked teeth is WRONG! If enough satellite subscribers join together and petition the court, the RIAA can get their arrogant asses collectively kicked into next week!

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