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| MrToast (Inactive) 25 September 2006 8:39 |
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Yeah like this is a surprise, Walmart is one of the most evil companies on the planet.
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| BludRayne (Junior Member) 25 September 2006 9:13 |
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So is Apple with their DRM.
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| lxfactor (Senior Member) 25 September 2006 9:22 |
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wal mart is saying if you sell your movies online.. i wont sell them in my store... correct? i don't get this
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| Nick600 (Member) 25 September 2006 9:33 |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walton_family
A few of the family members are some of the world's richest people simply from either their inheritance or else which doesn't actually involve any work on their part.
I say screw Wal-Mart! It's not like they're the only ones selling movies...
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| Dela (Staff Member) 25 September 2006 9:39 |
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Quote: wal mart is saying if you sell your movies online.. i wont sell them in my store... correct? i don't get this
Basically if this is true, they beliueve that an on;line distribution of movies is in fact a quicker way for consumers to buy movies. There is also a price difference which I didn't mention in the article. If it's true then Wal-Mart would be scared that more and more customers would mjove towards downloading their movies without leaving their homes than buying the DVDs from Wal-Mart. While most people would probably prefer to buy "new" movies on DVD, you have to remember the old titles. Let's say you are at home and you think of an older movie you'd quite like to own. Wal-Mart might be where you'd stop to buy it but if you have access to that movie in a fast download from Apple, you might just pick that choice instead. But ye.......... its all about profit.
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| tnarulz (Junior Member) 25 September 2006 10:16 |
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If the movie studios were smart they'd already be selling movies online, not everybody lives close to a Wal Mart/Target/etc and even if they do, a lot of people would rather get it now (and I'm presuming movie downloads through apple would be cheaper) than drive to a store to get it.
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| gogochar (Senior Member) 25 September 2006 13:54 |
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Go Wal-Mart.
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| DakotaFan (Senior Member) 25 September 2006 15:45 |
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Wal-Mart's movies suck anyways. I hardly buy any DVDs from there because most of their inventory is full screen. Don't these stupid idiots realise that widescreen is the preferred format among most DVD buyers? I usually go to Best Buy to get my DVDs.
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| rosedog (Member) 25 September 2006 18:12 |
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Quote: DakotaFan (Senior Member) 25 September 2006 19:45
Wal-Mart's movies suck anyways. I hardly buy any DVDs from there because most of their inventory is full screen. Don't these stupid idiots realise that widescreen is the preferred format among most DVD buyers? I usually go to Best Buy to get my DVDs.
Huh? I buy most of my new movies from WM and I always buy WS.
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| Chris1000 (Junior Member) 25 September 2006 21:18 |
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If it is truly true that Walmart threatened movie companies over selling movies through I-Tunes, Walmart could be looking at a SERIOUS federal investigation into them.
It would be the equivalent of blackmail, and that is illegal whether it is a corporation doing it or a private citizen doing it.
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| mystic (Member) 26 September 2006 5:05 |
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if walmart wants to get back at apple then they need to carry some of those cheap nano knock-offs from Korea with the amount of stores they have the buying power must be great and the distrobution would be world wide.... this would hit apple in the money maker... and that would send a clear message that walmart has had enough... also the sale of dvds through a secondary market such as Itunes only shows that there really has been a market and that the webbase downloading of movies has been a viable format to increase revenues for hollywood. but understanding that walmart puts money out to buy these dvds and that they have to wait for their return in sales of each item only shows how strong of a market the downloading of movies can be. it only shows that p2p's had it right all along if it can be downloaded people will and have for years. And "now" that there is a legail way to do it they should drop all the old lawsuets due to hollywoods inability to do it befor. if you get caught now after there is a leagle way to do it they should throw the book at those they catch. and forgive those who may have commited any wrong doings befor.
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| davidl1l (Junior Member) 26 September 2006 10:22 |
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way to go wal-mart
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| ChiefBrdy (Junior Member) 26 September 2006 13:24 |
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Walmart sells movies?
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| ChiefBrdy (Junior Member) 26 September 2006 13:27 |
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Walmart is making way too hard on themselves. If they REALLY want to get Apple, all they have to do is open a Walmart near Steve Job's house.
The rumbling sounds from the obesity going back and forth all day will be enough for him to stop selling movies. Add the diaper smells, and he may even go to work for Microsoft.
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| oofRome (Senior Member) 26 September 2006 22:39 |
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Why doesn't walmart get more into online services already? That's what they should do.
Get their own movie download service and make it cheaper than itunes.
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 27 September 2006 4:12 |
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Chris1000
oh please the feds wil waste 50grand investagteing them then slap them on the back and say good try spot good try!
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| handsom (Senior Member) 27 September 2006 11:01 |
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Wal-Mart may or may not be trying to threaten them.
And Wal-Mart is big enough to really hurt the industry, because of how much revenue they generate. Hollywood will have to decide whether they feel that the revenue available online will match the $5 billion that can be generated by Apple.
As far as shipping back 'cases and cases' of Disney DVDs, that's nothing to sneeze at. As a corporation, Wal-Mart ships 'cases and cases' back to several distributors regularly. A specualtion like this is about as good as:
"A wide range of responses have been felt throughout the US, in relation to the films 'Farenheit 9/11' and 'Farenhype 9/11'. Both films cover different ends of respective political opinions. Blockbuster might be threatening Hollywood to stop producing these films, by having employees physically crack DVDs in half, to make sure they are not used."
Before going any further, Blockbuster does physcially, and deliberately destroy DVDs on a regular basis. This is fact. It's due to an agreement they have with various studios. It is classic speculative reporting, to point out to completely unrelated subjects, and make them [italic]feel[/italic] connected like this. I'm sure Wal-Mart did send 'cases and cases' back to Disney. But something like this is standard, happens regularly, and has no relation. When you're a company as big as Wal-Mart, removing any item that isn't selling generates cases and cases. Looking at how many low-budget DVDs Disney makes, tv episodes, etc. It's not surprising that this happens. Now, if the news report said that in response Wal-Mart started shipping cases and cases of shows that are on apple's download service..... Then I might have actually been ignorant enough to not notice the lack of a connection.
This is poor reporting on part of Tim Arango of the NY Post. Hopefully, he gets repremanded for publishing this kind of low-grade speculation.
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| joschez (Member) 27 September 2006 13:28 |
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Quote: Wal-Mart to sell about $5 billion of DVDs during the fourth quarter
Like it or not they are one of the bussiness that sell most of the movies from hollywood, so they either win or hollywood will lose $$$$$
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| ChiefBrdy (Junior Member) 27 September 2006 16:59 |
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Walmart should get a gang of their sweatshop kids to go b...ch slap Steve.
Seriously, When is enough, enough? Walmart isn't big enough already. I'm fed up with these multi-billion dollar neighborhood wreckers whining everytime they think they don't have a hand in every single pie in the world.
Instead of crying and threatning people, maybe the CEO should take a year off and help Bill Gates in his causes. I hate Walmart!
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| ChiefBrdy (Junior Member) 27 September 2006 17:17 |
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Wal-Mart to sell about $5 billion of DVDs during the fourth quarter
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Figuring a very rough estimate of $8 a movie. You're saying Walmart will sell 625 million DVD's in a 3 month period or 6.9 million a day or 289 thousand an hour or almost 5000 a minute or 80 DVD's every second, 24 hours a day for 3 months??????????
With Sams, Walmart, Super Centers and Neighborhood Markets, they have 3931 total stores + their online business. Which equates to the equivilent of each store selling 1,766 DVD's 7 days a week for 3 months straight, minus whatever they sell online.
Can you site the reference? Cause that's too fantastic to believe.
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| Nick600 (Member) 28 September 2006 5:15 |
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@ChiefBrdy
Very interesting... I guess companies tend to exaggerate when trying to make a point.
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 28 September 2006 6:09 |
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Nick600
and we see further examples of their exaggerating when they whine about the billions they lose counting every "might be sold" copy >>
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| handsom (Senior Member) 28 September 2006 6:56 |
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The majority of films are not sold that low, and newer title tend to reap higher profit margins.
And yes, the 5 billion is still a great exagguration on Hollywood's part. But they've been known for that when 'counting statistical estimated losses from piracy' too. So, no real surprise there.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 28 September 2006 6:58
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| novicebb (Member) 28 September 2006 7:36 |
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I think that walmart should be worried and many other outlets if the companies offering online movie distribution and the MPAA can get it's act together. Can you imgaine if Itunes or Amazon offers movies that is transferable and convertable to many other devices with very little limitations only 2months or so after being released in theatre's.
I think that more and more companies want to do this because they can make more money by also releasing exclusive content and downloadable extra content like additional scences, and other features.
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| handsom (Senior Member) 28 September 2006 7:58 |
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I'm really not sure where you brought the MPAA into this, as they are just the company that gives films their ratings, and nothing else. They may be 'called' the Motion Picture Association of America, but ratings is the extent of their power.
And besides, it's not up to the M.A.F.I.A.A. how iTunes, etc deliver their films. When a film studio agrees to let their product be transmitted over certain services with certain encryptions, then they're stuck with that. Hollywoods lawyers can no more sure over iTunes films than the RIAA can sue over iTunes music. There is an agreed contract in place, and if they don't feel there is adequate protection, it is up to the studios themselves to stop supplying new content to these distributors, or to make tighter contracts requiring higher encryption in the future; but once they agree to a distribution method in a written contract with these companies, it's set in stone.
It's not a matter of anybody 'setting iTunes and Yahoo right' it's a matter of studios themselves that feel they are losing money, who need to demand better protection, before agreeing to give more content for distribution. If the studios aren't ready to stand up and do that, then every dollar they lose only stands to serve them right.
As for places like wal-mart being scared of online distribution.... Good. Because the old ways are becoming just that... Old. It seems that physical copies will be gone in five to ten years, the way things are going; I can only hope (I'm tired of the need for three folders to hold 800 DVDs, I'm a slight movie nut).
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