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| punqewe (Senior Member) 27 November 2006 17:29 |
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@ZIppyDSM...I never said anything about distro.
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 27 November 2006 17:35 |
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in this case distro=shearing *L*
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| punqewe (Senior Member) 27 November 2006 17:48 |
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I don't see where you see anything in my post about anything changing hands.
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 27 November 2006 17:56 |
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punqewe
even if tis copy righted you can still archive it if tis on the older systems,the only thing copy right dose is keep you from shearing it and saleing it.
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| punqewe (Senior Member) 27 November 2006 18:03 |
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I fully understand the laws around this,but what your comments were about had nothing to do with my posts. I said nothing about sharing anything,or selling it. Please don't put words in my mouth and move on.
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| Pspness (Senior Member) 27 November 2006 18:07 |
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Ok zippy, theres something called spellcheck. LEARN IT!
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 27 November 2006 18:10 |
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Pspness
firefox needs a better spell checker :3
Mmm or I need a better brain 0_o
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| DR34MER (Inactive) 27 November 2006 18:35 |
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pungewe : the format issue, I think, overrides the copyright ownership. Or at least, it circumvents it - I think this is why companies such as EA, Capcom and the rest are releasing "emulation compilation" packs such as "EA Replay" and "Capcom Classics Reloaded". By doing this. these companies get to 'refresh' their copyright as the format becomes a more modern one.
Just a guess.
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| CiDaemon (Member) 27 November 2006 18:41 |
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| DR34MER (Inactive) 27 November 2006 19:09 |
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CiDaemon : Yeah but, so what? Emulation subculture is way ahead of the corporates. Currently M.A.M.E plays what? 5 THOUSAND odd titles and how many of those have been "refreshed"? Something like 300odd if you count the Flash Arcade, Live Arcade and company branded packs. That's less than 10%. It'll take these companies too long to refresh them all and in the longer term they'll have no way of stopping people from copying romsets. Emulation will pretty much always be around.
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| punqewe (Senior Member) 27 November 2006 19:10 |
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@DR34MER - it will always be the copyright that will hold up in a court...so I doubt it that the format would over ride it.
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 27 November 2006 19:17 |
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punqewe
true plus they can drag normal people to court for merely being blips on their radar and they hope by suing enough they will chip away at consumer rights.
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| DR34MER (Inactive) 28 November 2006 1:11 |
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pungewe : Copyright doesn't hold up by itself. It needs to be proven and in the case of some games, that can be hard. Take a look at the EA Replay collection for PSP, some of those games are Super Nintendo (SNES) ports of ORIGIN titles (Wing Commander and WC : Secret Missions). Since the dumping Ultina Online, practically no-one from ORIGIN even works for EA anymore. Worse still, they were ports done by *outsourced* European coders (most probably Amiga experts, many of those went to code SNES titles) with names that seem practically unknown these days. If EA couldn't prove that these ported titles had been done for them (by showing payslips, man hour budgets, storyboards etc) then it could be argued that the expired ROM cartridge platform of SNES makes it valid (or at least safer) for people to *archive* those games in the public domain. By repackaging them EA reconciles copyright AND also makes a case against anyone who already has a copy of those ROMs AND also makes some money in the process.
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| punqewe (Senior Member) 28 November 2006 6:04 |
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I work for neither EA or Sony,as you probably don't either..so those examples you gave aren't too solid. We both don't know if EA has purchased the copyrights to use those games,as we don't know if the original owners don't still hold the copyrights.
I bet someone owns enough of them to take some action if they are misused though. Also what I was saying is that copyrights will take president over format...that is all...nothing more-nothing less.
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| punqewe (Senior Member) 28 November 2006 6:05 |
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^ that's suposed to read "I don't work"
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| punqewe (Senior Member) 28 November 2006 6:05 |
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lol Never mind...I misread my own post...LOL tired eyes
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| georgeluv (Member) 29 November 2006 7:10 |
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| CiDaemon (Member) 29 November 2006 18:29 |
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Haven't they always allowed backups for personal or archival use? Or have I been breaking the law for the last 3 years?
Brilliant!
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 29 November 2006 18:36 |
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CiDaemon
didn't you read the fine print fair use was destroyed to make backups of DVDs illicit :P
Circumventing digital protection is illicit even under the guise of educational in some cases 0_o
hopefully they have fixed this what you know they did but made recording LPs and tapes illicit to backup 0-o
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29 November 2006 18:39
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| CiDaemon (Member) 29 November 2006 18:47 |
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Hrmph. Don't tell on me.
Brilliant!
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| georgeluv (Member) 30 November 2006 7:01 |
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wait i was wrong, the steriophile website labled the article wrong i guess. all these exemptions let us do now is make compilation dvds out of dvds with copywrite protection for educational purposes. (film class, ect.)
sorry you selfish, blood-sucking assholes, but if i rent/buy/borrow a dvd its getting the whole anydvd/clonedvd2 treatment. how dare you tell me what i can or canot do with something in my own posesion.
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 30 November 2006 7:03 |
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georgeluv
copying a rented thigny is always bad silly :P
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| CiDaemon (Member) 1 December 2006 21:15 |
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It beats downloading WAREZ.
At least that way it's not traceable ;).
Brilliant!
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 1 December 2006 21:22 |
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CiDaemon
warze died after DSL becoem normal for most of the net,after the pron and spam places took them over you cant find anyhting same with porn passwords to find free free non spammy things it takes awhile it can take minutes even hours to find it and even then a 40% chance its a blank or bad file and thats even if you use torrents.
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| CiDaemon (Member) 1 December 2006 21:23 |
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This is true.
Do isos on filesharing networks count as "Warez"? If so, there's still a thriving trade there.
But, the point was, copying rented disks beats downloading iso's.
I'm going to bed. It's way late. Discuss later.
Brilliant!
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 1 December 2006 21:26
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 1 December 2006 21:39 |
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CiDaemon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez
Wiki dose not define the diffrance a shame ,but non the less Warez was now is Shearing since less and less groups of well "groups" profit from the distro of it.
Unless you want to count ISPs if anyone is to blame for anyone its the ISPs and their masters the same masters that sic thier minions on the masses when IP/CP thigns pop up.
I mean really sat net has taught me no "normal" person needs a 25KBS+ connection :X
LOL
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