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Xbox 360 release dates revealed

Written by James Delahunty (Google+) @ 15 Sep 2005 10:07 User comments (159)

Xbox 360 release dates revealed Microsoft has revealed the release dates for the Xbox 360 gaming console. In the U.S. the console will be available on November 22nd. European gamers will have to wait until December 2nd to get their hands on the console and 8 days later on December 10th, the console will be available in Japan. Unfortunately for gamers in Australia, Colombia, Hong Kong, Korea, Mexico, New Zealand, Singapore and Taiwan there will be no late 2005 release of the console as the only details Microsoft gave concerning those locations is the console will arrive sometime in 2006.
The company also announced that the console will cost ¥37,900 ($344) in Japan. That price includes the consoles removable 20GB HDD, wireless controller, remote control, headset and Ethernet + AV cables. The company already revealed the U.S. and E.U. prices for the console in August, (US$299 and €299 (£209 in UK). The release dates were revealed by Microsoft at the Tokyo Games Show.

Microsoft is hoping to steal some of Sony's Japanese market share with the Xbox 360 as it failed to make a dent with the launch of the first Xbox console. Now the company is back for a second attempt and has ensured it will take the "first mover advantage" which it hopes will boost sales and help it to dethrone Sony's Playstation dominance.

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159 user comments

115.9.2005 10:13

sweet thats a date that I will have to keep open for playing video games.

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215.9.2005 10:37
elroyjet
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I think i'm gonna hold out, cause i here the PS3's gonna have a lot more JUICE (graphic wise) then the xbox 360! + Blu-Ray.

315.9.2005 10:49
tEChniiQue
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I know what 'm gonna be doing this Thanksgiving!! I just hope I don't get turkey on my controller ;). This release makes me feel like a kid again...like it's the night before Christmas or something.

415.9.2005 11:15

Waiting till PS3 comes out. Not because of graphics, but because of game catalogs, and by then if I choose to buy XBOX360 (Which I predict I probably will), it will be cheaper. =)

515.9.2005 11:26

I'm with you toiletman, I'm hearing that blu-ray is going to beat the pants off of XBOX360.

615.9.2005 11:35

OK bluray, lets take a 50GB disc and only use 13 GB on it for the game...and charge people more for it. That makes sense.

715.9.2005 11:53

Xbox 360? whoopdy-doo. I think i'll wait for the saviour of the game console industry to come out.

815.9.2005 11:53

that is wack. I think i'll hold up till taxes come again.Then i'll have money :)

915.9.2005 12:03

Well I'm australian soo ill have to wait anyway... So ill wait some more and c how much the prices drop and change and also see what other gadgets u get with either of the consoles... I'm going to india at the end of the year soo u never know what is possible there soo i may get somethin there... The only thing im sure of isim gonna c if i can get a projector for my laptop.... Well also price is a big thing ill also wait for prices to drop at the moment i am impressed with X Box but ill like many others here hold out till i c what sony does...

1015.9.2005 14:59

I'll hold out for the PS3 too, though I think the Revolution is actually the next-gen system I'm looking forward to the most.

1115.9.2005 15:51

"OK bluray, lets take a 50GB disc and only use 13 GB on it for the game...and charge people more for it. That makes sense." -The point is you won't have to buy a seperate blue-ray dvd player, those will be quite expensive when released therefore you get a two in one type deal with Sony.

1215.9.2005 16:19

So you're choosing between games(which you are going to be playing almost all the time) and a DVD which you mihgt pop in a few times a month. I'd chooose the games.

1315.9.2005 18:27
diabolos
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So your saying that blue-ray is the future? What about HD-DVD. Eveyone knows that Microsoft is leaning toward Toshiba and HD-DVD.

1415.9.2005 21:34

well lets remember that sony has gotten companies to release movies on umd so U know they can do the same with the blue rays if they choose.

1515.9.2005 21:45

mkaseatgb,,, I am sorry to say this but honestly if the games where such a big deal to you over the ability to watch the movies on the system, Well if that were true, then you wouldnot even be considering buying a xbox360. Microsoft has never had a chip on the shoulder of the games that Sony has had. That is why there are only around 22 million xbox worldwide and more than 33 million PS2 just in North America alone. There are more that 100 million PS2 sold worldwide. Hummm 22mill, 100 mill??? Now where do gamers go for games and selection?? That's right. Bring it home to daddy. Sony wins!!!

1615.9.2005 21:47
elroyjet
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u don't see microsoft including HD-DVD in there console. GO SONY!!! BLU-RAY.

1716.9.2005 0:34

[QUOTE] OK bluray, lets take a 50GB disc and only use 13 GB on it for the game...and charge people more for it. That makes sense.[/QUOTE] i have to agree 100%

1816.9.2005 1:44
Rosco404
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The games will prob stay around the same price they are now... Also they may still use CD and DVD based games, only releasing large games (Maybe with lots of video) on blu-ray discs.... Its like the PS2, some games are CD based and some are DVD... You can get single sided 25Gb discs too... Also their may be multiple games released on one disc (eg. Classics from the PS2 etc) who knows : )

1916.9.2005 2:32

i agree with the blu-ray thing... the blu-ray player in the ps3 should really be an ADDED BONUS to something you already want because of the GAMING CAPABILITY...not the reason you choose it over the 360. all i believe is that you shouldnt waste your breath arguing over which is better when you have played neither. we have a few stats & rumours but nothing is 100 % totally true unless stated by microsoft/sony. imho you should invest in an xbox360 even if you plan 2 get ps3. because its relatively cheap. i had a ps2 and decided to get an xbox because i wanted to see what it was like. they both have great, different qualities. i believe the ps3 and the xbox360 will follow suit. we all know the ps3 will probably still domin8 but the xbox at its price is good to tide us over for the months in wait for a ps3. ill get both because i agree with me :P

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2016.9.2005 7:38

Considering that I work, I'm not cheap, and that I love video games, I'm gonna be buying the Xbox 360 when it comes out, and then buying the PS3 when it comes out. Why settle for 1 when you can have both? Unless one console is just ridiculously better than the other, I think I'll enjoy having both...

2116.9.2005 9:06

same hooshies im getting both :P

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2216.9.2005 9:49

I hear that stand-alone Blu-ray players could be over $1000 when they first come out. This really swings my vote to getting a PS3. Another reason being, my roomate is already getting an Xbox360 LOL. A quick question -- how does the graphics processor in the Xbox360/PS3 compare with PC video cards such as the top of the line 7800GTX?

2316.9.2005 10:30

what so you believe that there will be NO blu-ray player cheaper than the ps3? especially as it's made by sony. if anything, sony is one of the most of expensive makes...rite? so i think nearly all bluray players will be cheaper than the ps3

2416.9.2005 11:05

Ok maybe there will be some "el-cheapo" Chinese models available, but do you really want to buy them? Even if the PS3 sells for $399, its still a good deal, considering that the el-cheapo standalone players may be mid to high triple digits at (release). Its a Sony.

2516.9.2005 11:25

This is what I am going to do......Buy the 360 bundle package AND a core system......sell the core system on Ebay for a nice profit and it will pay for part of the bundle that I will keep.......And do the same for the PS3.......I have to have the first in the hood to have the new systems.....Its good to be old enough to buy what I want and not have to beg for it....AHHHHH sh*t I still have to bet the wife well I'll just have to throw her a bone......win win for me

2616.9.2005 11:50

Ritam2001, Stand-alone Blu-ray players are and have been sold for sometime now and they run almost 4x what you thought at $3,875 USD through eBay or you can also buy direct from Sony in Japan. Sofar they are only sold in Japan with exception to those who will export them to you through eBay. I can't beleive anyone would pay that kind of money but I suppose if you have a high desposible income what the h*ll. http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Blu-Ray-High-Definition-DVD-Recorder-Pla...

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2716.9.2005 12:25

blu-ray is gonna f****** kick a** :D We'll need the extra space to make the games HD, adding in all the intricate details. HD-DVD, on the other hand, aint even gonna come out with the 360 for at least the first couple of versions. why does just about everybody think that blu-ray is gonna hold just games? again, it can hold more movies.

2816.9.2005 12:37

yer blu-ray great lots of storage ok yeh......what you gona store in 50gb? i am a neutral here as i intend to get both but some of you seem a little brainwashed. i have absolutely no idea bout the price of blue ray players. all i know is if SONY of all people are doing a ps3 with an INCLUDED blu-ray, do you actually think other companies gonna retail at four figure prices, like you seem to think?? come on, use your brains. sure they're expensive now. that's because not a lot of people are familiar with it. the very first blu-ray models in full retail (not on ebay, when you see them in many shops) will be out before the ps3 so sure they will be expensive. but by the time the ps3 is out, the prices will be lower than the ps3. these people aint stupid....

2916.9.2005 13:41

@ Lethal_B: Thats why I said "mid to high triple digits", not $$$$'s. Of course the prices will go down -- how much is still very uncertain though... @MrMovies: Thats a recorder. No way the PS3 will have recording abilities. But you are right, its insanely expensive. My point is basically this -- why get an expensive standalone next-gen DVD player when you can get it in the form of a PS3 which you can also use to play games?

3016.9.2005 14:27

Console is a dying breed...once computers are afforadble for all .....and you brain washed console junkies get a glimpse of what pC is capable of ...you too shall leave all your fancy shmancy consoles to be nothing more then dust collectors...its funny if you think about it consoles are mini computers for half the price of a reg pc(xbox360 and ps3 refernce)...big deal... spend the money and buy your self a real machine...eventually consoles will turn into full blown computers and guess what i wont have to wait 15 years to see the day because i already own one..

3116.9.2005 14:46

@ritam2001 It sounds like that you are gettin the PS3 more for the DVD player than the games. Fine. Just remember, the PS3 is 2, maybe 3 years away. And theres no guarantee that the PS3 is definitly gonna have it, because a PS3 doesnt even exist yet.

3216.9.2005 15:46

Ya really. All ive read today is that " Oh im going to wait for PS3 cause its got Blu-Ray ". WTF is Blu-Ray going to do to make games better huh????. I thought the whole point of gettin a new system was to play better and more graphical games on it then the original one. If all u want it for is to play Dvd's then go out and buy a dvd player for like 80 bucks and there u go. u dont have to spend 600 bucks on a system that has Blu-Ray. And obviously, Xbox 360 has got the best and the better of games then Playstation will ever have in my mind. Sony may have all the technologies and contracts with these big name movie and game companies, but they dont have 1 thing, the skills and smarts on what a gaming system should be.

3316.9.2005 16:31

There is no way sony could sell a Blu-Ray player for a grand, then sell PS3s with blu-ray for $400. They would get investigated by every consumer agency so fast its not funny. So either blu-ray players are gonna be cheap, the PS3 won't have blu-ray or you'll need a loan to buy a PS3

3416.9.2005 17:03

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I'm with you toiletman, I'm hearing that blu-ray is going to beat the pants off of XBOX360.
Everybody agrees with Toiletman! =P But on a more serious note, people seem to be "graphics-oriented" and "how many GBs I can my console read-oriented" when it comes to choosing the right console. The first one, I can understand. Better graphics usually means better games. But with XBOX360's stunning graphics, and PS3's even more jaw-dropping graphics, I am happy with the state of graphics that either console can produce. But better graphics does not equal better games. The best games mostly have stellar graphics. The second one, is wrong. I could pile crap upon crap upon crap and fill up a Blu-Ray, hell, even a Red-Ray or whatever they decide to name the nextgen discs. Let's look at this in a more mathetical format: Crap + Crap + Crap + Crap = Crap. You get a crap game. Bigger games does not equal to better games. And unlike graphics, sometimes the best games aren't the biggest (in GB size, not gameplay size.)
Everyone is entitled to their own true opinion. Either respect that or don't.


3516.9.2005 19:54

It's gonna be like Xenosaga...even more useless movies put in yet $30 more expensive per game

3616.9.2005 20:36

mxndemon.....You may be correct but i doubt it will happen in the next decade so dont hold your breathe. Sony did not patent its new chip for the PS3 for nothing. As far as I have heard it is suppose to be new tech. that is why they patent it. Even Microsoft does not have anything that can match it yet and there is no other company that to date has produce anything that I have read of that can do what it do on the screen baby. So I dont think any computer can touch it. Computer are more versitle an do way more but xbox360 and the PS3 are not just some rookies when it comes to the gaming industy.

3716.9.2005 20:46

The new console are becoming more and more complex and offering us so much more than just gaming experiences in some cases. If they are not careful, as prices of technology goes down the computers may be the ones to become obselete in the future. They have already been putting HD on ps2 and xbox. If they ever happen to make the mistake of putting a windows operating system on any consoles and then a burner then what would you need a computer for. I know that is nothing likely to happen anytime soon. But if it ever does what would you need a computer for then. Instead of console being a dying breed, computers might be the ones in trouble if these console continue to offer more and more with the years and new consoles to come. You know that Sony and Microsoft both really would like for the systems to be the center of your home entertainment providing all your needs in one. You gaming, web browsing with a huge HD, and recording ability etc...... Years away from happening... but not impossible or too far fetched an idea.

3816.9.2005 21:16

Toiletman..... i totally agree with you again. More gigs on a disc and better graphics on top of better graphics and more gigs doesnt make a good game. But some of these idiots out here you can get a logical point out to. Those are the same ones that say that the ps3 sucks or the xbox360 sucks but have not had a chance to play and truely compare them yet. LOL How stupid. Both systems will thrive and everyone has their opinions to which will come out ahead but that is just opinions as of right now. I do honestly think PS3 will be the better system and not b.c of the more power that they are suppose to have. This is not the first time this topic has come up and it surely wont be the last. It is deja vu all over again just like with the xbox and ps2. My friend kept saying man this is Bill Gates we are talking about and his system is more powerful. I told him I understood but i had been reading of the developers were going to make games for the PS2 and not the xbox. Sure enough the better library of games on the PS2 dominated the more powerful system in the Xbox as people kept saying xbox is going to kill the ps2. Well, it did not happen. I am a realist type and dont mind hearing anyones opinion as to why they think or beleive what they beleive without becoming offended. I respect Microsoft, but for those of you out there that can handle the truth without getting upset about me saying this,... The xbox got there a$* whipped. Beat down. Skull drug. Man!!...., sony drug them through the Mississippi river and dumped the body in a junk yard and put a not around their neck saying they bad a#$ yellow boy. But some of yall loyal xbox fans not hearing me though. Man just search the sales numbers for the sytems. Now for those of you who can not handle the truth, i expect to hear a counter argue but before you do that please...., please google and find the current number of xbox systems sold worldwide and then do the same for the ps2. Then with still having respect for the xbox being a great system and superior to the ps2 in raw power dont waste your time when you see exactly what i meant when i say that Sony dealt them boys a Royal flush. Sales are not even comparable and that is still with all respect to Microsoft and the xbox and 360 which i wouldnot mind owning. I am getting a PS3 too. Graphics dont make the system so stop argueing about that point. It has been shown to be a fact that the games will make or break the system. Microsoft had better hope they do better on their video game library this time around or let see....., how shall we say, Deja vu all over again............

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3917.9.2005 7:04

You know what? How can we really compare a game system that is coming out in two mnths and a gaming systen that isnt even build yet? We just have to wait and stop arguing.






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4017.9.2005 9:09

Just a word on the xbox 360's price,ref to uk price as stated on the above thread,£209 ? cheapest i can find it for is £279 on amazon.com

4117.9.2005 9:11
da_won
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You know, i think that M$ diserves another shot... The XBox hit a few out the park as far as exclusives such as Forza,(i hate to say it) HALO, KOTOR, Fable, Splinter Cell is better on XBox(so i count that too), not to mention the addictive online play of games like RB6, Ghost Recon, Conker Live & Reloaded. And 360 they seem to be in the right direction as far as games are cocerned... by signing on SquareSoft, i guess that will get more traditional RPG's on the 360. And the bs about the PS3 being more powerful is tiresome... this link (PIMPED by mkaseatgb) should explain in plain english there isnt much difference between the two and its possible that the 360 has a slight edge. http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html. And the bickering between the HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray needs to stop. The bald headed sum-bitch for M$ already said that they left the option to upgrade down the road. Not to mention the PS3 has to use the first of the blu-ray drives. As the CD and DVD have shown us in the past first is not necessarily mean better. IM NOT ps3 bashing by any means im just saying your reasoning is sketchy and manipulated by propaganda. Make your own decision... not by the pre-launch propaganda but by actually playing the games then disciding which you prefer.

4217.9.2005 9:43

Wow, couldnt say it any better myself.






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4317.9.2005 9:54
da_won
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thnx

4417.9.2005 10:19

da won, you have got it perfectly there. nice one. thatll stop the bitchin! :)

4517.9.2005 10:41
da_won
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Ive just heard so much bickering back and forth when only a select few with no allegience to either side see the whole picture... DarkmanDisciple is the gamertag Top 5 games im playing: 1. Rainbow Six: Lockdown 2. Delta Force: BlackHawk Down 3. Pariah 4. Conker Live & Reloaded 5. Forza Motorsport Thats my top five. If you notice Halo 2 is not listed... its a well known fact that it isnt the only decent game for XBOX... I keep jumping from forum to forum and all i keep hearing about is Halo 2 & and Halo 3. NOTE TO GAMERS THERE ARE OTHER GREAT MULTIPLAYER GAMES FOR XBOX THAN HALO.

4617.9.2005 10:42
da_won
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the second part to my post just had to be said even though it was off topic.

4717.9.2005 11:06

I'm glad that xbox 360 is coming out this year. Is been like what 5years seen xbox. I heard that PS3 is coming out late 2006, maby 2007.

4817.9.2005 14:24

Am I the only only person who finds the idea of being loyal to a company that makes games consoles strange? Take "lxhotboy" for example when he states

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I respect Microsoft, but for those of you out there that can handle the truth without getting upset about me saying this,... The xbox got there a$* whipped. Beat down. Skull drug. Man!!...., sony drug them through the Mississippi river and dumped the body in a junk yard and put a not around their neck saying they bad a#$ yellow boy
Now im not going to bother asking where the xbox's "a#s" is actually located, im simply going to point out the bit where you say "I respect Microsoft, but for those of you out there that can handle the truth without getting upset" Now can somebody please tell me why anyone would get upset over a machine? Its not as if it's their girlfreind you are talking about. Finally im going to tell everyone one last time that both the 360 and ps3 were made for multi-threaded games, but multi-threaded games are 3-5 years off. In fact game devolopers have said that if either had used a athlon 64 processor they would have been way ahead of the competition. All the people raving over the multi-core processors don't really know what you are talking about, since they are pratically useless on single-threaded games. By the time the multi-threaded games come out, both the 360 and ps3 will probably be obsolete. Both microsoft and sony have made a big mistake with these processors but it seems(from what I have read) that the 360 will be able to handle single-threaded games a little bit better. As for blu-ray, it will be nice for movies but the extra storage for games probably will not be needed in the lifetime of these consoles, after all no game has come close to the current 9GB capacity on standard DVD.(most games are 3GB) Everyone should be thankful that there are two big companies aiming to be number one, competition breeds excellence. Im probably going to buy both. for sanity on an insane forum speak to lcarbutt :)

4917.9.2005 14:36

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for sanity on an insane forum speak to lcarbutt
LOL nothing like blowing your own trumpet!! :P thanks for giving everyone, myself included, that bit of info. because now i am well informed. hopefully everyone else is. hopefully - end of - xD

5017.9.2005 14:43

Now how true is that. Only 1 question here. What about Nintendo's Revolution. Have any of u guys seen the controller for that thing, its like a remote control in 1 hand and a joystict in the other. But frankly to say, thats the only cool part of Nintendo, Xbox and PS take away their glory with their own graphics and design and coolness that every gamer wants in his pad .

5117.9.2005 15:13

lcarbutt.... would you mind pointing out where i stated that i was a loyal fan to sony or any other system? I never said that and by saying that microsoft got drug through the Mississippi i was merely stating facts as the xbox flopped when it came to sales and that is not an opinion or any loyalty to that statement. That is what we called a statement that can be researched and proven, or in other words just reality. I did say i am a realist. xbox's butt is where sony kicked over 100 million units out and microsoft only got about 22 million last i read. That is reality not being loyal to a system. i am not loyal to any system. If you can read you would know i am all about the library of games. I did say that and that is the one thing that you can look back at and find in what i wrote previously.I did though givee an opinion of where i thought the best library of games would be considering that microsofts previous system came up very short in that area. Again that is not loyalty so learn to interpret things a little better next time please.

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5217.9.2005 17:37

Can we please talk about something else either then the Mississippi River or Sony trying to Beat out Xbox 360 in this race or Blu-Ray. How bout we talk about how like cool Xbox 360 is being the first of the 3 systems coming out this year or wat kind of specs that u r most stunned about in the Xbox 360. HUH????????

5317.9.2005 18:42

LMAO ALright man. I dont really care too much for the specs b/c the specs of the system dont really matter. Graphics are not going to make the games a great game. What would impress me is if someone could list some of the games that will be released on the xbox 360 that are big releases. What developers are currently working on games and what games they are working on would really interest me.

5418.9.2005 10:45

OK Man. Here are the 12 launch games already announced: 1. Perfect Dark Zero 2. Kameo : Elements of Power 3. PGR3 4. Call of Duty 2 5. Ghost Recon : Advanced Warfighter 6. Elder Scrolls 4 : Oblivion 7. D.O.A. 4 8. Tony Hawks : American Wasteland 9. Condemned 10. The Outfit 11. Quake 4 12. NFS : Most Wanted As far as games that are in development : 1. Halo 3 2. Gears of War 3. Final Fantasy XI 4. Sonic ???? 5. Full Auto

5518.9.2005 12:35

Having kids i know why they picked that date to rls it. Right before Christmas its a conspiracy my kids are already bugging me about it and with it being around Christmas u can bet it will sell. Wanna bet when the ps3 is rls'd its around Xmas too

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5618.9.2005 14:31

PS3 isnt planning on an xmas release if they dont push it back. It is a good marketing strategy thought.






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5718.9.2005 14:50

Could you show us these "astonishing" sales numbers, because I found none,"lxhotboy."

5818.9.2005 15:17

@crazydesi: just leave it man, the kid is a fanboy whichever way you look at it.

5918.9.2005 17:17

I would be shocked if PS3 will sell more then xbox360.

6019.9.2005 4:11

Lethal_B... you are correct. I am a fanboy. I am a fanboy of whatever system has the best library of games. Always have been and always will be. Not to any system. crazydesi.... You are seriously telling me that you cant google and find some current sales numbers on the sales number that microsoft and sony released???? Are you serious or kidding??? U got to be kidding. hold on and let me find it so i can spoon feed the baby.

6119.9.2005 13:32

Excuse me, but i think you'll find the PS2 had a WIDER catalogue of games. whether they were BETTER or not is down to PERSONAL opinion is it not?? all this crap about dragging it through the mississipi metaphor rubbish is making you look a right idiot.

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6219.9.2005 14:05

Ill admit it, i have a ps2, though i am not impressed. The library of games and the different types are appealing. I just think that the xbox takes in those games (the ones they get) and makes them better.

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hurry with the curry

6319.9.2005 17:12

Obviously the games for Xbox 360 are goin to own, but i havent really seen any PS3 games except for Killzone, Fight Night : Round 2 & FFX2. Now i dont know about you, but id rather own a system that has a lot of different kinds of games that are playable right now, then waiting 2 years and playin games that arent as good as Xbox 360 and probably costs more for the system. And heres a question for PS3 fans, What the hell do you need 6 usb ports for????

6419.9.2005 17:15

oh please dont start all that again, jason. we've just restored law and order here.....

6519.9.2005 21:22

SRRY. I didnt read the whole thing except for the last reply. I didnt know that u guys already talked about PS3 vs. Xbox 360. I just wanted to know Why Sony put 6 usb ports on the back of PS3???, I dont even think there are 6 different things that u can plug into them. BUT I DONT KNOW. Im not a huge fan of theirs. SRRY AGAIN!!!!!!!


360 KICKS ASS!!!!! Cant wait!!!!!!!!!!! NOV. 22nd

6620.9.2005 10:17

I cant wait for this system and the ps3......more gaming for me

6720.9.2005 11:34

PS3 ALL THE WAY...MUHAHAHA im sorry but come on 360? get out !! but ye jason does hav a little point why 6 ports ? o Well :P il be gettin it n e way ...daddy bear will still pay for me no matter what !! LOL :P :) AND BLUE RAY DISCS ROCK !! its been stated dat half of american ( buildings and roads graphicated) can be put onto one of those discs WOW !! so they do put a little shock to your heart considering that right now we only technicaly have like 8.4 gig cds SO YAYYY to BLU RAYYY!!


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6820.9.2005 12:07

I think the PS3 is going to support quite a few USB controllers, so at least four of those ports could easily be used for people who opt not to use the wireless controllers.

6920.9.2005 12:09

O ok kool thnkx...was wonderin why ? and yeh ill go without the wireless stuff ..i think cordedz alot EASIER

7020.9.2005 12:14

[QUOTE]lcarbutt.... would you mind pointing out where i stated that i was a loyal fan to sony or any other [/QUOTE] You didn't, but you did imply that other people do when you said [QUOTE] but for those of you out there that can handle the truth without getting upset about me saying this[/QUOTE] I agree with you, their are people on this forum who have strange loyaties to game consoles, who do in fact take it personally when you put down "their" console.

7120.9.2005 12:33

Yeah, the console will come with one wireless controller, and when you are playing, you can choose six more wired ones. That is stupid, though, seven ports, how the hell do you split that up. I mean three is possible for an odd number, but seven?

7220.9.2005 14:33

Didnt we already have this discussion here? Or was that in the PS3 Vs 360 thread?






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7320.9.2005 15:09

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I agree with you, their are people on this forum who have strange loyaties to game consoles, who do in fact take it personally when you put down "their" console.
lol i thought that! lol but when you put it into that context, it is pretty humourous!

7520.9.2005 21:53

WTF. no release date for australia. just because were a puny country with 20m people. Bleepyou microsoft im gonna get a PS3

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7620.9.2005 22:03

I think the release date for the 360 in Australia is Jan. 2006


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7720.9.2005 22:56

@mward I understand ur pain... but pleas edit ur post cause profanity is not allowed... Thanxs


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7821.9.2005 4:36

Lethal_B.... Actually that Mississippi dragging thing is a song, I did not make up some metaphor thought i did use it as such. If you had ever heard the song you might understand. But i guess you cant hear Jimmy. LOL Did you understand that one?? or do you need me to transalate that one for you????LOL Everyone also knows that PS2 has the best catalogue of games so stop wasting keystrokes here.

7921.9.2005 10:25

lol tru tru you have got yourself a point there!

8021.9.2005 11:27

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Extremely constructive post.
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lol tru tru you have got yourself a point there!
And your point is?
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Everyone is entitled to their own true opinion. Either respect that or don't.


8121.9.2005 11:58

So anyone find those crazy numbers about the ps2 and the xbox mississippi incident.

8221.9.2005 12:07

erm dat ps2 has the best catalougue of games !! ...

8321.9.2005 12:47

HAHAHAH. LOL. U think that Playstation has way better games then Xbox. I almost laughed my ass off because that was just about the stupidest thing i have ever read. " PS2 has a better games catalougue ". WTF. Can u put the catalougue in the disc tray and start to play the catalougue on ur PS2. NO. Why??? Because the catalougue doesnt make games, developers and publishers make them for u to play. AND WOW!!!! PS has a better catalougue. WHOOPPIE!!!! its like " Oh the catalogue is the best thing since sliced bread and who cares about playin games when u can look at them in a wonderful, colored catalogue. GET WITH THE F***in PROGRAM.

8421.9.2005 13:02

xbox is the crap...its big fat ugly and sluggish ! alll games come out on ps2 b4 then 2 xbox apart from the ' xclusive games ' which 2 be honest r not all THAT !! but hey thats my opinion PS2 all the way no need to get all xcited ova it ...calm down !!

8521.9.2005 13:59

Jason8, by catalog, he meant selection of games. Games are always (at least to most people) what make or break a system. Graphics, price and ease of control are all factors, but ultimately the games are what make the difference. As yet, the only game that even looks worth renting to me on the Xbox 360 is going to be Halo 3. But, hey to me all the Halos so far have just been glorified Golden Eyes (which I can play on the 64 without buying anything new). Sure, lots of people like Halo and other Xbox games more than I do, but there are plenty of games for the PS consoles that you might not like that thousands out there would sacrifice their food money for, too. It's amazing how many people just refuse to accept that others may have a different opinion that they do. You like Xbox 360 the most (obviously), others like PS3 the most, others like the Revolution the most, some will buy all the consoles, and some don't even like video games. Get with the program.

8621.9.2005 15:43

Yep, everybody is entitled to to their own opinion...except donkeema because I cant read his (please learn some grammar)






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8721.9.2005 15:45

@donkeema Where have you been for the past five years? How about a couple of games like: Half-life 2, KOTOR I and II, Morrowind, Fable, and Doom 3? Oh yeah, and there is a game by the name of HALO!!!

8821.9.2005 16:02

I think ps3 is gonna be better be cause it has 510 gb and xbox 360 has 360.some idiots i know still think that xbox360 will have better graphics.I am going to get xbox360 for christmas(reserve).Xbox360 is going to launch in mid-november.the 12th most likeley.ps3 is set to launch in early march of 2006.in my opinion,ps3 will be better. xbox360 is going to cost $300 and a modded one for $400.The modded one plays original xbox games.ps3 at e3 was rumored to be $375.No,I did not go to e3 but my relative did.

8921.9.2005 16:06

The companies say that playstation is a single-player game console. Xbox is a multi-player game console. Poles say that more people play single player than multi-player. That is only at certain hours of the day. So ps2 and ps3 and ps1 are all for single player.xbox and the 360 are multi-player.

9021.9.2005 19:51

Jason8 man you are tripping. Just about everyone here knew the selection of games it what was being discussed when "catalogue" was used. Nonoitall knew how to interprete what was being discussed. Man you made yourself look real dumb when we are talking about apples and you are talking about oranges. And you know what else, you have to be the smartest guy here to know that quote, "Because the catalougue doesnt make games, developers and publishers make them for u to play." Man that was deep. I mean really deep. No one, I mean no one else here knew that but you man.

9121.9.2005 19:56

crazydesi.... Let me ask you this just being honest before i go and put this link on the page so everyone can see what i was saying about the sales of the xbox and ps2. Do you honestly beleive that xbox sold enough systems to put a dent in sony's dominance in the video gaming industry. Let me tell you i have posted the link before on AD for some fool who said Xbox outsold the PS2 worldwide so finding it again is not that hard. back around may and june the sales numbers were like this xbox 22 million worldwide PS2 100 million worldwide. hell there are more ps2 here in north america alonethen there are xboxs in the entire world.

9221.9.2005 20:00

That is not a fanboy post. That is called real life. That shows you which system has the best selection of games. If you dont think that it does, then that is your opinion and you are entitled to that. but let me remind you that your opinion is not shared by many others if you do think that the xbox has a better selection of games.

9321.9.2005 20:05

If Microsoft plan to ever put a dent into Sony's market of gaming, releasing their system first in a start and one of the best marketing stratedgies they can have used. Now the only thing they need to do after the release of the xbox 360 is show the world that they can get the big games too.

9421.9.2005 20:11

[Quote]The top 10 software titles for the first six months of the year were dominated by PlayStation 2 games. Sony's console had six games in the top 10, including Sony Computer Entertainment's Gran Turismo 4 in the top slot. Nintendo had the second most games in the top 10. Game Boy Advance games held two positions with Pokemon Emerald at second place and Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap at seventh. The lone GameCube representative was Capcom's Resident Evil 4 in the eighth slot. But that tied Microsoft's entire Xbox contingent, with the tenth-place Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith lingering at the bottom of the list. [/Quote] That was pulled from gamespot. Link is http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/28/news_6129940.html

9521.9.2005 20:13

This is exactly what microsoft doesnot want to do on the xbox 360. Fail to put enough games into the consumer must have list.

9621.9.2005 20:45

Sorry but i do admit i was wrong on the sales numbers for the PS2 and Xbox. The psx has sold the 100 million units. http://www.nlgaming.com/nl/asp/id_6029/nl/newsDisp.htm Desi.... here are your numbers. Here a link so check it out for yourself so that you can come out of denial thinking that the xbox really did well against the ps2. There is plenty of other evidence online supporting this post so if you still dont believe it i can find other links too. I found another on CNET but here is one that shows the comparison of both. PlayStation vs. Xbox worldwide shipment comparison: Source: Company earnings Worldwide Hardware Shipments PlayStation 2 (Life-to-date as of 6/30/05) Worldwide Hardware Shipments Xbox(Life-to-date as of 6/30/05) 91 million units (Playstation 2) Breakdown: N. America: 36.78 million Japan: 21.25 million Europe: 32.97 million 21.9 million (Xbox) Breakdown: N. America: 14.6 million Japan: 1.8 million Europe: 5.5 million Now let me say this one last time. I am not a fanboy. It all about the games. Now if i must be a fanboy LOL then i really does not matter to me. LOL b/c there are only 22 mill xbox fanboys and 90 million PS2 fanboys if we want to call everyone a fan who post some truth to real life sales success of these systems. Looks like most people who thinks that xbox has the better selection of games as an opinion doesnot hold more water than a cup with a hole in the bottom.

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9722.9.2005 3:01

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ermm.. the statement `everybody knows` isn't stating a fact. dumbass
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so stop wasting keystrokes here.
ha? thats a laugh when you post 6 in a row! and you can't even get the so-called facts right. do urself a favour and hush.
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9822.9.2005 3:09

Why dont you show some sales numbers they prove that wrong. Oh that is right you cant find any b/c there are no sales numbers that would show that most people prefer xbox games b\c they dont have the fanbase numbers to sell any games. LOL. If you cant post any sales numbers then you should hush yourself. Fanboy. LMAO Harldy anybody buys the xbox and sony is planning to drop the price of the ps2 to 100 bucks to disrupt the xbox 360 launch so it will probably fail to sell too. Xbox??? No it should be called the X-failure to sell. LMAO No one wants that crap and the numbers show it. LMAO....

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9922.9.2005 3:15

yer yer blah blah sales numbers blah blah. nothing proves that they are better dumbass. the ipod is a prime example. i dont even need to show you those figures because everyone knows they have sold morethan any other. they have like 80% of the mp3 portables market to themselves.... so does that mean that apple provide the best selection of mp3 players?? its down to opinion. same goes for ps2/xbox games. dumbass.

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so then that makes you a fanboy as there are no 'best games' it's all opinion...
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i dont really care i dont know your poxy song and don't care to know it. by the way how do u 'drug' microsoft? LOL
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10022.9.2005 3:20

Oh i see i struck a nerve. I got you using foul language now. LOL You cant even hold a good debate down The numbers show were most opinions of best games are. LMAO. IDiot. You scared to find any sales numbers for the xbox games. Are you going to search the sales??? If you do you wont post any after you see them. LMAO Why dont you post some sales numbers from the web or are you to embarresed to see the poor sales of games on the xbox compared to games on the ps2. If you post the numbers you would make yourself look like like a hypocrite. You have nothing to support your opinion. LMAO I would not search the net for that info either if i were you only to make myself look like an dumb$$$ either so i dont blame you dog. LMAO

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10122.9.2005 3:22

Common lethal B. xbox did not even produce the game of the year from the majority of the worlds voting which shows the consumers opinions. LMAO They can only put 1 game in the top 10???? Come on now. All i got is ammo to fire but you shooting blanks. Better yet you dont seem to have a gun to shoot anything to support your opinion at all. Why do you think Microsoft is releasing a new system at all right now. To try to stop that A$@ whooping sony is putting on them b.c the xbox wont sell so let the truth be told.

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10222.9.2005 3:30

hang on a minute dumbass now ur backtrackin....one minute ur on about facts...the, when it suits you, and there are no facts....it's what `everyone knows`...that doesn't mean it's better ps2 sold more than xbox because it had a predecessor..... xbox didnt. and the predecessor...psone/psx had no real competition apart from like n64. and that was cartridges. so everyone knew that ps1 was good so they were going to get a ps2. xbox was released after everyone had their ps2- hence they sold less. it's logic... and if there are less xboxes, there's gonna be less game sales... are u thick?? how do i know ur a fanboy...you are totally biased. i have both ps2 &xbox...so i am merely talking truthfully.... ahaa

10322.9.2005 3:42

But exactly were is your truth. The numbers show were we as the consumers think of each system overall. Xbox the better system in raw power and potential but with an inferior selection of games in the eyes of the world's consumers. Your opinion is your opinion but you are on the visiting side of a football stadium with hardly anyone in the stands to support you. Just give up man. SSSHHHHH, Be quiet.

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10422.9.2005 3:44

When sony first came on the scene in video gaming consoles they were suppose to be designing a cd based console for Nintendo but the deal went sour. So sony did their own thing and been kicking butts every since. Now microsoft on the other hand is so desperate for help they have tried to buy nintendo. LMAO That is bad when nintendo, wont sell out to Bill Gates. When the xbox or the 360 starts to show some life then you will have some ammo to fire but until then please stop wasting keystokes on this forum.

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10522.9.2005 3:55

where is your truth?? yeh ps2 sold more. that is all you have bruv, ur one fact, your hotboy name and ur cheap lines... y dont u hush ur gums because u just talking garbage. look. if you wanta carry on rantin fanboy then pm me because i decline from this thread. ya boring... and stop with ur stoooooopid metaphors. u sound like a tw*t. and rather than raackin up 3-6 posts in a row at any given time i suggest u use the *edit* feature.... thats my last word in this thread, but feel free to make me laugh by posting further.

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10622.9.2005 3:59

Oh man, come back, come back!!! LMAO LMAO!!! Dont leave with your tail stuck between your legs. LMAO It aint my fault no one wants to buy an xbox. LMAO Well we see there aint nothing legal bout the "B" LMAO. Man i did not mean to upset you. You just dont want to admit that through all my blapping, through all my posting, through all my metaphors, that i am right when i say the xbox has a weak selection of games compared to ps2 and that is why no one buys the system. Boy your pride is really up on your shoulders. You know deep down nobody buys that weak xbox even though it has more power than the ps2. We the consumers dont want that crappy library of games.

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10722.9.2005 4:03

hotboy. Please stop ranting on about the playstation. Icarbutt and Lethal have both noticed you are loyal to it, which is kind of sad.... But hey, not for me to judge. just wait for it to come out then enjoy. ;) @lethal take it easy m8, just chill :D




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10822.9.2005 4:15

sorry dog, I aint loyal to nothing. I get off on posting to people that cant except the truth. truth is the xbox did not sell. Now if i am a fanboy for saying the truth then so be it. Others get upset b.c deep down they know the xbox did not sell too but they are not man enough to admitt it. So it tickles me to see them in denial. I was a fanboy to sega genesis when it was the bomb. But then snes starting putting out all those games and i was like hold on now. Let me jump ship and follow all those great games to play. That aint fanboy. Well yes it is. I am a fanboy. I am a "follow the best library of games fanboy" and i guarantee i am not alone with that said. So sure we can stop ranting about the ps2 if hearing the truth bothers you too. So let talk about what is important to each system as the deciding factor to whether or not the 360 will be a success of a failure. What are the games that will attract attention to the 360??? Lets talk about that. Are they going to get the tekken series? How bout Devil May cry series?? I know they will have the Metal Gear series, right. All i am saying people is that the 360 need to bring on the exclusive games if they want to show the consumers of the world they want to really sell the 360. Man if they start getting a better selection of games I will go out and buy a 360. But they are going to have to show me. All that talk about they are going to get more games this time around needs to be supported with some links to articles showing were Microsofts has gotten deals with more software companies to help make games for the 360.

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10922.9.2005 4:23

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WE?? What are you, the prime minister... you speak for yourself!!!! I feel that in proportion, they both have an equal QUALITY library of games. theps2 has like twic£ the amount of games as xbox, and only half of them are good. same with xbox...half are good, except they only have half to begin with. so in proportion to how many they are, the 'betterness' fo the game library is the same, because you are talking about the quality......
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11022.9.2005 4:34

I am not speaking for anyone. I am just saying what the consumers thought to be a good deal, and what they did not think to be a good deal. 2cd no one mentioned anything about the quality of games. I am talking about the selection. Each system has it good and bad games true. But when you take each systems best games xbox does not have a comparable number of great games. If 360 does not get more "great games" than the xbox had, then Microsoft had better release Halo 3 at launch, Halo 4 six months later. Then hurry up with 5,6 7,8,9 and 10. That should keep them afloat for a while. Xbox???---- A failure. It did not sell well. Xbox360 --- We will have to wait and see. It is all about the games so who cares if the 360 is going to be released with that same weak library of games. Oh yeah and the next time i post, time i post here i will show the sales and profits for the xbox360 compared to the PS3. If the xbox 360 get the games and has better numbers then i will still post b.c i will own a xbox360 myself. But then xbox 360 will probably fail to sell units just as its predecessor did. So i will stop wasting my time here with all you xbots. LMAO!! Oh my bad i said all you xbots, I meant the few of you Xbots. We know it is not many of you around. You might be on your way to becoming an endagered species. LMAO Take it easy xbots. LMAO

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11122.9.2005 4:59

i don't even have an xbox- nor do i intend to buy one.. h ave psx ps2 & psp. i am merely pointing out that you have pretty weak grounds in your argument... the xbox isn't a failure. the ps2 had already been released remember and the xbox was a totally new thing. i tried one. it's not bad at all. ther just wasnt much point in buying as i already had a console. now xbox is released first...we'll se. and ye, i think it's best that you leave. don't waste your time, and ours. you dont help here on afterdawn. all you do is bleat on about ps2/ps3/xbox/xbox360. its a tedious waste of bandwidth. i prefer the sony consoles...don't catch me repeating myslef *yawning...*


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11222.9.2005 5:42

The genesis was released much before the SNES but that did not matter b/c SNES system had the library that everyone wanted. Where is sega now besides making games so your excuse is a tedious waste of bandwidth.

11322.9.2005 7:18

Whats funny is that while I personally will buy them all because they will all be good systems. I think that it wont matter that the Xbox comes out first though it will give them a better chance at comp with Sony. In reality the systems are pretty simmilar and both companies have a ton of money to throw at them. Xbox seems to have learned from the few mistakes they made with the first system and seem to have what looks like an improved set of upcoming titles. That said i dont think they will knock off the leader that quickly. Fact is Microsoft realizes that Sony is a Beast and they want some of that pie and will do better in their second system than in their first but it wont surpass at least not this generation though it will be closer due to the time frame. However whenever the PS3 releases people will buy it people who have large PSX and PS2 collections it only makes sense. I look at my own collection and see approximately 52 PS2 titles to 6 Xbox so which would make more sense to you. That said the system thats getting left in the dirt is Nintendos..........talk about that

11422.9.2005 11:32

when you ladies can have a nice discussion without bitching and moaning like little girls, then you can keep a thread like this open. everyone is entitled to their own opinion and should not be harrassed for it. make a new thread if you want to have a nice chat, but play nice or you'll be out on your asses. oh and btw, i own a PS2 and an xbox, and when launched form a giant slingshot, they both fly equal distances.






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11522.9.2005 12:22

The genesis was released much before the SNES but that did not matter b/c SNES system had the library that everyone wanted. Where is sega now besides making games so your excuse is a tedious waste of bandwidth. How did we get on this subject? This is about xbox 360. The Ps3 and whatever else do not matter. Man, we should all read the rules that say this formum's all about the 360, lol.

11622.9.2005 12:28

I think the only people that are not buyin ps3: hate video games, love nintendo(0.00000000001%, xbox lovers, and people disappointed in ps2(me). just wanted to throw that out there before you all read my last post.

11722.9.2005 13:06

I agree that the 360 will do better than the xbox but will also fall short of the PS3 too. Darknipth i understand you when you say that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and you are right. I agree both ps2 and xbox are good systems one did a poor job in the marketing room and that is what hurt them most. Xbox should have been released closer to the ps2 and they should have made sure they had more developers signed so they had a bit more to offer in titles.

11822.9.2005 15:08

I must say that I agree. This time Microsoft was good in marketing, but that will not make all the ground up. I think this time they are going to put themselves in striking distance.

11923.9.2005 9:49
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dude you do know when you say that the xbox didnt sell , you sound quite stupid. for i do believe the xbox still sold millions of units . wow you are such a failure

12023.9.2005 14:01

He didn't say it didn't sell; he said it didn't sell anywhere near as much as the PS2. And he's correct.

12123.9.2005 14:56

You know. When u look at it. PS3 is really screwed. I just read that PS3 is set for launch when Xbox 360's main title HALO 3 comes out. Plus that very same week that both the PS3 and Halo 3 come out, that HALO : The Movie comes out. So Sony is gonna have to win the fans over some how or its going to go right down the shiter.(Heres an idea SONY : Y dont you guys make the price of your PS3 at least $200 less, then what i think u'll be selling it for(which is supposed to be at 659.99US))

12223.9.2005 19:30

How do you know that, Jason8? That could just as easily mean that Halo 3 is "really screwed". Die-hard Halo fans will buy Halo 3. Die-hard PS fans will buy the PS3. Sensible people will decide what they feel is more enjoyable and buy it. Make no mistake - Halo 3 isn't some magical wand that Microsoft is going to use to mystically make everyone buy their game and console and nothing else (except for people who have been blinded into believing that it is the only game in the universe worth buying). A console needs more going for it than a single game in order to be successful. Halo and Halo 2 (the Xbox's two most sold games) still pale when compared with Zelda: Ocarina of Time and GoldenEye 007 (two of the most sold games on the N64), or Final Fantasy VII and Tomb Raider (two of the most sold games for PSX), or Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas and Vice City (the two most sold games on PS2). All of the above games' series are still being added on to and will no doubt continue to be in the next generation of consoles. Even with the great Halo, Microsoft obviously has some tough competition to say the least. That $659.99 price estimate is one of dozens I've heard - most were much lower. Now that multicore processors are becoming more mainstream, the price may well go lower than the previous estimates. Even so, the PS3 should be more expensive than the Xbox 360; its hardware is far more advanced.

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12323.9.2005 20:37

That was just my opinion. I just think that Sony might be screwed a little because if you remember when Halo 2 came out, it was all over the news network with video footage of 1-2 hours of people waiting in the rain to get Halo 2 (even celebs like Willmer Vanderama & Eljah Wood). What did GTA , for example, have as far as news media when San Andreas came out, except for a few long line-ups in Chicago, cause thats were 62% of the GTA : san andreas games were sold. What im trying to say is that Halo is a world-wide phenominon in video gaming , whereas , GTA is just popular in North America. And yes ur right. Sony might bring the price down a bit, but will still be more expensive than Xbox 360 cause of the hardware being more advanced. But if anybody knows anything about computers & Video games together, then anything from Microsoft is the way to go. If u want games that are just for all systems, then get PS3. What im trying to say, is if u want a different console that has exclusive games only for Xbox and P.C. then go for Xbox 360, but if u want a company that knows more about gaming than any other master minds in the world then go with Sony or Nintendo, but the same games that will be on PS3 and Revolution will most likely be on the Xbox 360 to.

12424.9.2005 4:55

I am not sure if the price of the PS3 is what you need to be worried about right now. Right now xbox 360 may be the one in for a little disruption of sales of the 360. Sony is talking of lowering the price of the ps2 to $99 to when the 360 is released. I know people will still buy the 360 but if the price of the ps2 is lowered then 360 will loose a good amount of its sales. People that can afford to buy their own system will do so but kids whose parents buy then such as for christmas may see the $99 price tag very tempting over $299 or more. We will just have to wait and see how much it will hurt the 360 though, no telling. Jason the reason Halo 1 and 2 are so popular and so hyped besides from the fact that is really is a great game, is that Xbox doesnt have any other game on its level or that can match it. PS2 has plenty of games that can match GTA popularity. Did we forget that Metal gear solid 3 was released almost at the same time as GTA SA. There are others on PS2 also. That is what makes Halo series stand out above all the rest is it has no equal in popularity on the xbox. GTA though everyone was so hyped about Halo 2 failed to win the overall game of the year on all platforms. That was from votes from people who play games. You have to also realise that Sony with more than 90 million ps2 and 22 mill xbox, sony does not need to market any game really. Xbox does b/c they doent have the fanbase.

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12524.9.2005 8:11

Ya i knew that. I was just sayin that how Xbox and Xbox 360 have a little better games now that they are partnered with all developers of PC games ,to bring exclusives to 360 not found on any other system , and how they are creating they're own games from Rare : Perfect Dark Zero, Kameo Elemants of Power, etc. Im also just stating the fatc on how Xbox 360 has about 65 videos of game footage from 65 games that will be out by the end of they year, and PS3 and Revloution all they have is just screenshots/clips of actuall game play, but never let people try the games and system out like 360 did.

12624.9.2005 18:25

But Thats because the PS3 and the "revolution" wont be out for a good while. Remember the 360 is the only one slated for this year so it would be rather stupid not to show games for somehing about to hit.

12725.9.2005 8:33

The reason Microsoft couldn't match a game with the hype of HALO (Halflife 2 was up there) is because no game can match that. GTA or MGS did not create massive lineups. The fact is that no game can get to that hype is because people don't know what they can expect next. I mean, who thought the first HALO could be topped back then? And now it seems impossible to beat HALO 2, but it will happen. HALO 3 can stop a bunch of people on the borderline from getting a ps3.

12825.9.2005 9:28

I really dont think a 50 dollar game will stop someone from buying a system though. Thats wishful thinking fact is a few games sales might suffer but no borderline person that is willing to drop 3-400 dollars for a SYSTEM is going to really be swayed by a 50 dollar game not to buy a SYSTEM. That said i know alot of people who wont buy a 360 till halo 3 comes out meaning they will only get the 360 and will get the ps3 at a later date. bottom line its dumb to argue what will happen right now as the only new system comming out is the 360

12925.9.2005 10:10

The games in next gen are 60 for the 360.

13025.9.2005 10:14

It is possible to stop people with one game because it is the top of the genre. People who want the system for a first person shooter will pick the 360. Most people don't buy both of the systems, so they have to choose one. They would most likely pick the 360 if they want the best game there is. So, it is possible to slow down a competetor with just one game.

13125.9.2005 12:55

carzydesi, keep in mind that not everyone on the planet thinks that Halo and Halo 2 are "the best game there is," or even the best fps. I like FPS's a lot, but any good dose of GoldenEye or, heck, even Banjo-Tooie will satisfy me no less than the great and awe-inspiring Halo. Sony and Nintendo also have a lot of games that will sway the judgement of people who can't decide on a single console. Zelda won't be showing up on any non-Nintendo consoles any time soon, and the only Final Fantasy to be ported to Xbox is XI (and as far as I know Square Enix has no immediate plans to port anymore Final Fantasy games to Xbox/Xbox 360).

13225.9.2005 13:25

Hey Nonoitall. I think Halo and Halo 2 are the best games out there ( beating anything that Nintendo or sony has made ). And i dare u to name me at least 3 good games for PS3 that will make me change my mind into not buying a Xbox 360. oh wait!!!! u cant. Cause PS3 SUX and they are slow in making good games and for that matter, even good systems. all of sony's products suck, even PSP. somewhere around like 1.5 million PSP's where brought back cause of the pixels being too crapy. So sony isnt all that great. Nintendo is cool, but they could have worked on the design for the Revolution a bit more, bu their new controller looks kick ass

13325.9.2005 13:25

Hey Nonoitall. I think Halo and Halo 2 are the best games out there ( beating anything that Nintendo or sony has made ). And i dare u to name me at least 3 good games for PS3 that will make me change my mind into not buying a Xbox 360. oh wait!!!! u cant. Cause PS3 SUX and they are slow in making good games and for that matter, even good systems. all of sony's products suck, even PSP. somewhere around like 1.5 million PSP's where brought back cause of the pixels being too crapy. So sony isnt all that great. Nintendo is cool, but they could have worked on the design for the Revolution a bit more, but their new controller looks kick ass

13425.9.2005 15:21

To my knowledge, Sony hasn't announced any specific titles, as the system's release is still a little off in the distance, but decent guesses for the PS3 that can easily top any Halo IMO would be: Final Fantasy XIII Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XV Final Fantasy XVI Final Fantasy XVII Final Fantasy XVIII Final Fantasy XIX... ...need I go on?

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Cause PS3 SUX and they are slow in making good games and for that matter, even good systems.
Geez, I simply can't compete with your impeccable logic, considering no Xbox game has ever been as successful as the top PSX, PS2, NES, SNES, N64, GB, or PC titles. Well nevermind, I will try your method of attack. Xbox 360 SUX and they are slow at making good games and for that matter, good systems. Back to reality and as I said before, Microsoft has some tough competition to contend with. Don't confuse Sony's "slowness" with their attention to detail. It's better to spend three years on something and have it be worth buying than to spend three months on it and have it blow up in your face.

13525.9.2005 15:35

Ok. First thing First. Final Fantasy Sucks. And they havent even announced a 13th one yet, so how can u even go up to 19 and beyond???. Secondly , Halo 2 has kicked every other games ass in most selling, so how can u say that Xbox hasnt made any good games. Lastly, how can u say Xbox doesnt make good systems when they have only made 1. DUMBASS!!!. And for ur info. This xbox 360 project started in March of 2002, its not a 3 months project. And if u like PS3 so much, why are u even on xbox 360's forums anyways. JACKASS!!!!!! heres a quote. " Nonoitall is a DoUcHeBaG!!!!!!!!

13625.9.2005 20:00

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Final Fantasy Sucks.
There are millions of people, including myself who disagree with you. If you aren't going to accept that not everyone thinks the same way you do, I see no point in pursuing this conversation.
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And they havent even announced a 13th one yet, so how can u even go up to 19 and beyond???
Why don't you actually read my post? Read:
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To my knowledge, Sony hasn't announced any specific titles, as the system's release is still a little off in the distance, but decent guesses for the PS3 that can easily top any Halo IMO would be...
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Secondly , Halo 2 has kicked every other games ass in most selling, so how can u say that Xbox hasnt made any good games. Lastly, how can u say Xbox doesnt make good systems when they have only made 1. DUMBASS!!!
Check the market figures again. All the systems above that I previously mentioned have at least one game (usually several) that has beaten Halo 2 in sales. Also, I can't say the Xbox doesn't have any good games - it does; I was imitating your brilliant post that was written before mine, in an effort to show how unrealistic and pointless the argument was. I guess you were really calling yourself a dumb-ass.
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This xbox 360 project started in March of 2002, its not a 3 months project.
I didn't say it was. It was a hypothetical comparison.
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And if u like PS3 so much, why are u even on xbox 360's forums anyways. JACKASS!!!!!!
I'm so sorry - I wasn't aware that I needed to like something in order to voice my opinion about it. I do believe I've seen you ranting in a couple PS3 threads, too.
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heres a quote. " Nonoitall is a DoUcHeBaG!!!!!!!!
What relevance does this even have to this thread? Please send me an e-mail or PM me if you wish to discuss your opinion of me and not the thread's topic. If you want to continue this discussion I would ask you to be more open-minded, please. Even if we have differences of opinions we can still be civil about them.
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13726.9.2005 10:13

Not wanting to get into an argument about which game is the best, I will say this...Everyone has their opinion about it because NO GAME HAS EVER BEEN THE BEST FOR LONG. I will say Halo was a great game Halo 2 not so much, the fact is that your argument is ONLY HALO and i just dont think that will make it fly into every home. I love Final Fantasy and other RPG's and the fact that of the handful on the Xbox only 2 or 3 didnt suck makes me think twice. Resident Evil remakes and 4 made me buy a Gamecube but that was SEVERAL games not one. I used to joke around early on when i got the Xbox saying i bought Halo for 350 and got an Xbox for free but it was a joke there were some older games i wanted to play and i got them because there were enough titles for me to warrent it. As i said before 360 will make alot of ground but will not pass sony the only way that would happen is if Sony just stopped making systems and games right now. Thats just Logic talking not fanboi crap that drives me nutts. come the Generation after this Who the heck knows Xbox may rule. I will own both the 360 and the PS3 because i like games and the handful of titles that are exclusive warrent that i do so. But its several titles not one. I can truthfully say that no one game has ever made me buy a system it takes at least 4-5 to get me to drop the cash with the exception of the psp (traveling with it was the draw)

13826.9.2005 10:34

i cant believe you people are arguing over something so stupid! Waaaahhhh he likes this and you dont, who gives a rats ass about it! and to come to name calling like a little girl? i should ban everyone involved! kindly bend over and remove your heads from your asses and get on with your lives for christs sake!!

13926.9.2005 18:41

Jason 8 and crazidesi... I respect your opinion about Halo 2. It is a great game no doubt though it did not appeal to me as much as the hype. Jason you talk about how many copies Halo 2 sold. Well we all know mistakes can happen so would you mind finding some current numbers so that we can rule out whether or not Halo sold more than some other games that have been released. I am not sure myself. Have any of you ever heard of the official Spike tv video game awards???? It was its second year in 2005. It is the biggest video game awards event hosted by Spike tv that uses votes from the world to select what we think as the best games in diff categories and on diff consoles. Halo 2 won best game on the xbox but it did not win game of the year on any platform. GTA SA won that award. Now i still know you have you right to your opinion but i just wanted to let you know who won the crown. The Spike awards show is the oscars and grammies of video gaming. All the biggest celebrities were there hosting and performing onstage. MGS 3 was also a candidate for game of the year and there might have been a few other ps2 games but no other xbox games but halo 2. To everyone here please try and respect everyones opinion without getting upset or using foul langauge. If that keeps up then they are going to close this thread and possible ban some people too. So lets all have a RESPECTFUL discussion and debate or diff accordingly.

14026.9.2005 21:20

OK. Ill admit it. I was being sort of a dumbass in my last comment and i apologize to Nonoitall. And yes i did watch the Spike Video Game Awards and Yes i know that GTA SA won Game of the Year, but thats only cause all of Chicago voted for it. And for your info. go to http://xbox.ign.com/articles/565/565280p1.html And that tells you that they have broken 1 record in all of video gaming world. TTYL

14126.9.2005 23:46

No apology is necessary - I get a little excited about my point of view from time-to-time too (as I probably did here, and if so, I'm the one who owes everyone an apology). A note on that link though - it did say Halo 2 broke the records for money earned on the first day, but not necessarily games sold overall. There's no doubt in my mind that the Xbox 360 and its accompanying games will bring in loads of money to Microsoft. It's still my guess that the competition will be more successful, though. Only time will tell.

14228.9.2005 14:26

Ya thats True. But i would like to know something. What was the best selling or most selling game of the year? i mean each system has has their games like, Halo 2 - Xbox, GTA : SA - PS2, Starfox Assualt - G Cube but which game out of them would you say would win the most/best selling game of the year, As we head into the next-gen of gaming with Xbox 360 right around the corner in Novemebr??

14328.9.2005 17:05

It's obvious the consumer as a whole picked up HALO 2 instead of GTA or FF, so it really doesn't matter what anybody says about that.

14429.9.2005 4:53

Here we go again..... Crazydesi .... Jason asked for an answer to the question that i think can be proven. Is that your opinion or fact that halo 2 is what consumers picked up most? Please validate. If you dont feel like it let me know and i will search the net and find a few up-to-date references that will show which actually sold the most copies which is what Jason appears to be asking. Dont be so strong to express your opinions as facts if you dont have any proof.

14529.9.2005 17:15

ANY OTHER OPINIONS or shall we talk about a different topic?

14630.9.2005 19:07

exactly

14730.9.2005 21:10

Yeah, I agree it might be best if we just shut up. :)

14830.9.2005 22:39

Well No. Not shut up , but just talk about sumthin about xbox 360 or any other systems that we can all talk about and have a good/normal conversation for once on this thread.

1491.10.2005 1:52

Let's see - they're all going to have much nicer graphics than the current systems. :p

1501.10.2005 10:01

Thats True. And each system has their own advantage. Xbox 360 - Xbox Live ( The Best Online gaming system in the world ) is Free & a tri-core graphics processor by ATI. Playstation 3 - The Fastest gaming system in the world with 2 teraflpos and the " Reality Synthesizer " graphics. Nintedo Revolution - Wi-Fi everything & the ability to download classic nintendo games via online(kinda like Xbox 360's marketplace feature)

1511.10.2005 14:26
Risen
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K look all I can say is if you perfer fps games stick with xbox if you like rpgs stick with playstation if you like old school games such as zelda then stick with nintendo every system has there pros & cons it just depends on what you like to play for example I like fps so I'm getting 360, my older brother likes rpgs so he's most likely to get ps3, and my little brother likes just about any thing you put in front of him to play but besides that he likes old school stuff so he's most likely to be the one to buy the Rev.

1521.10.2005 14:30

Ya 360 is gonna own all systems for at least a year or so, until the Sony crap comes in

1531.10.2005 14:40
Risen
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truely I don't think sony's all that bad it's apple i don't like because I baught a ipod and it worked like shit a month after I got it the hard drive was crupt so I dumped it and dumped it over and over agian till I got sick of it then I sent it to apple got money back baught a creative zen 40 gig and saved 150$ on getting it instead of 40 gig ipod.

1541.10.2005 14:42
Risen
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But these are just my opinions you guys don't have to agree with me if you don't wana it's all good.

1551.10.2005 14:42

Ya i know that Sony is not that bad of a company, im just sayin, that i have never liked their systems, PS1, PS2 and soon to be PS3

1563.10.2005 5:44

mabey one of you guys knows, I was wondering will the Wireless controller charger come with the 399 set or is that something you will have to get seperately. I know the dvd remote actually comes in the box which is sweet but i want to know if i have to budget the extra for the charger for the wireless.

1573.10.2005 6:01

Ya it kinda sux but yes. The Play & Charge kit youll have to buy separately from the system. But hey, at least ur controller wont dye out on u during a game.

1583.10.2005 7:49

Thanks for the info Jason8, it does kinda suck but the fact that you have that option is really cool when i heard about the recharge pack i was really excited it saves on having to guy batteries all the damn time which is great. I really dont see the use though in the 299 set for a 100 bones more you get so much more.

1593.10.2005 14:33

ya 399 deal is for the real gamers, and the 299 deal is like for parents to buy their 7-13 year olds for Christmas. whatever you choose you r still buying xbox 360 and Thats COOL!!!!!!!!

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