I think i'll be sticking with IE 6. wait untill they fix bug on IE 7 and Firefox 2. But i'm the first one to comment.

Firefox rules. I've had no complaints whatsoever, I prefer it over IE.

Thanks, gonna grab it now.

OK, I tried it. Not happy. I use add-ons that don't work in Firefox 2.0. I went back to 1.5 until people get a chance to update their add-ons for 2.0, mainly "Tab Mix Plus", it's the best add-on and I don't want to do without. As far IE 7 goes, it doesn't have any options, I've had it for a while and don't like it at all. If you drag a link to a new tab, it still opens in the tab your in, stupid. Before you upgrade, try "Tab Mix Plus" and you'll see. The best feature is opening a duplicate tab.

FOllow up: This is from the developer of "Tab Mix Plus" "I REALIZE THAT Firefox 2 IS GOING TO BE RELEASE ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 24. A NEW VERSION OF TAB MIX PLUS IS GOING TO BE RELEASE SHORTLY AFTER THAT, IN LESS THAN A WEEK. PLEASE BE PATIENT, FOR NOW YOU CAN TRY THIS VERSION EARLY. http://tmp.garyr.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3515 "

NO difference between this and RC3 so pointless upgrading at the mo. As for plugins etc - yes only a few are supported :(

But oh well...

Thanks.

Thanks for the info I also use the add ons. (The embeded Downloader and the Video Downloader) If someone could post when the add ons work with 2.0 that would be very nice. I don't no why but when I use both browsers at the same time they like 2 crash, Firefox likes to crash/frezze alot on certain peoples myspace,(Maybe it's because I did that hack to make Firefox run faster or my PC if just getting old) Also A couple times I ran into differnt things that did not support Firefox. But I love the Add-ons and the tabbing etc. So whats going to be differnt on this one nothing? except add ons don't work yet.

I am using Beta 2.0 untill my add ons catch up with 2.0

I am going to download this new Firefox asap but asap after i see the changelog. I like this browser better than IE. but i dont like the fact that i have to keep ie because windows has to run off it. Just waiting for the changelog. :)

i tested firefox2.0 from the begining. and highly recomend its.good browser.

bah FF 1.0 is better than IE *L*
FF 2.0 is all you will ever need to surf the net with.
I just hope they don't sell out like Netscape did....we don't need another corporation to kill another great free program...

Hi, a few weeks after installing the last version of Firefox about 6mths ago. I opened my browser to find that my bookmarks left to my horror! After trustin a new browser, i thought thats all i need, so i spent half a day lookin for some info on somethin i've never done before tested your patience (as their terminology would need to be clearer!) But long-story short, since then nothin has happened-thank god!! PS. What add-ons are available, are they for your own personal use or for better runnin on the pc?

Can't imagine using another browse than Firefox...But, yeah, I'll be waiting until the extensions are updated before upgrading...MS has lost it's edge a while back, competition certainly benefits the consumer and IE is garbage. Sooner or later, someone is going to trump Windows as well, ahhhh to dream.

I am currently using IE 7 and the only reason is because Firefox is such a memory hog. I figure out why a web browser would use so much memory. I know there are fixes but I thought with the latest release they would have addressed it. Other than that the new features are good.

aspire180 Once DX emulation becomes complete there will be little need to use XP anymore. and vista is a en devour into pointlessness. I wonder if cine/wine can freely dev on DX10 or has MS handicapped their potential to limit it to DX 9

TyMan4325 FF likes ramm IE like to crash consultantly go fig *L*

Ive been using FF for ages, way better than IE. But it is a memory hog, and having only 256mb on my current machine it does make it hard to multitask. My FF beta 2 has auto updated my addons as they are released so all mine work fine. To that guy who lost his bookmarks, has happened to me a few time when i dont shut it down properly but there is a backup file in a application data folder. in fact it has backups for the last 5 days bookmarks.

are there any free ware mem/ram managers that will free up ram but not run when you are playing a game? I have a hog pog of ramm in my comp right now 1.5GB at 333 stable.

There is a program out called Priority Master 2006 that will help out with that memory/multitasking problem. It's not free but works great.. 19.95

Try this ZIppyDSM. Free RAM Optimizer XP http://www.snapfiles.com/get/foptimizer.html I'm currently using FF 2.0 as I'm typing this, works great although some of my extension and themes don't work with this version. Doesn't bother me much.

I'm sorry here's a link for P.Master http://www.prioritymaster.com

Firefocks rocks! I've got 1.5.0.7 and yahoo videos dont work on it to save its own life. Granted the bugs, but its cuz i'm running windows XP (big suprise). Once I went to Firefox, I never went back. Its that tabbed browsing and security. Its Orange and Fiery!

Firefox uses a lot of RAM??? It uses 24-30 MB for me and that's on XP. On Windows 2000 it uses less than half. I guess it uses RAM while you download stuff, but it seems like it uses it as a buffer.

JaguarGod when I have more than 5 tabs runing it can do 70+,when I have 10 tabs running it can 128 and then not go down when I close all but 1 tab. IE is not much better 5 windows of IE and 5 random urls you get 9,10,7,13,16 ram usage however its completely unstable.

Yea i get way over 70mb, when doing flash based games and stuff ive seen it get upto 140mb

JaguarGod, it depends on how many tabs and windows are open. I had 4 windows, each with about 6 tabs, and noticed it was using 129 megs, WOW! So I closed all but 1 window with only 1 tab, and it stayed at 129 megs, that needs to be fixed!! It seems once RAM is allocated for Firefox, it won't give it up, that's bad. I hate IE, but this is not good either........

Bryan, try Opera..it doesnt look that good but it also has the tab thigy and i think its a bit faster that firefox i havent check the memory usage though

Andrew691 Yeah i found it after studyin up on it, but almost deleted the bookmark.dat but was cautious & read more into it & found out that you only had to do that with prev.version & find out which one i had. But at that time i had no idea what app.data folder was,Its only happened once (thank god!) but as you said 'a few times' I cant say it 'gets easy every time-probably frustratin' Thanks for noticin that anyway.

@Bryan_G,

Tabs do not use up so much ram only new windows. It is the same in IE. If you have multiple windows open, it quickly consumes RAM!!!

I had 15 tabs open in Firefox and it still used under 25 MB of RAM. The thing is that once memory is used by Firefox, it does not seem to free it up when it does not need it any more. I think this is more a Windows XP problem though.

Also, it seems like IE also uses up 25 MB of RAM on Windows XP. I then opened 3 new windows (4 total) and it used up 45 MB of RAM. This is the same as with Firefox, so they are about equal in that way. However, tabs use maybe an extra 600kb per tab, so you have the advantage in this case with Firefox on memory. Also, tabs are much easier to work with.

Oh, I don't know if this makes a difference, but I run no script and adblock plus. I always have Java disabled unless I need it.

EDIT, to free up RAM, use the "Clear Private Data" function and it should go back to about the 25 MB amount.

Opera, Is that the same browser PS3 is going to have? is it made by the same people or what? anyone know

O wow I just looked it up the one in the PS3 is custom built. I can't wait.

i absolutely love this browser.

I still say Avant browser by AvantForce is the best. There are so many features to Avant. Yea it is based on the IE layout, but it has worked for me for years. I also like Firefox, but to me it is focused to much on protection & not features & that can slow down browsing in my experience.

I just updated and changed my browser to Firefox and its great. No over the top crap that comes with any of the other browsers out there this one is nice and simple.

Reinstalled it today (after taking it out yesterday) then installed the latest release of "Tab Mix Plus" and everything works great. I love the fact I can move the back - forward - refresh - stop and Home button to the top bar, couldn't do that on 1.5. http://abcwd.com/temp/firefox-toolbar.jpg Also, the memory problem is somewhat fixed. I opened up several windows and tabs to get up to 128 megs of memory, then closed all but one window and it went down to 54 megs, still a little high. With 1 open window and 1 tab should be more like 38 megs, but this is still much better. FireFox RoX

Opera isn't the memory-hog that Firefox is and is the fastest browser. Downside: some websites still don't like Opera. The upshot is that most of those sites want to drop malware on your computer so it's sometimes a good thing.
P.S. Yes, Opera is coming for the PS3.

Firefox 2.0 has two significant improvements over older versions: I have lots of bookmarks and it no longer takes 30 seconds+ to access them! Also, it doesn't seem to occasionally "forget" a site you bookmark anymore and use the clear private data feature. YAY! Downside: Still a bit of a memory hog. Also, you need to use Firetune. Even the pipelining tweaks don't seem to help as it is slower than past versions out of the box. Been using it since Monday pre-release and several installations.

IE7 - same s--t different version number. Oh, another vuln. found->http://secunia.com/advisories/22542/
It's been, what, 4 days since its release? Eh, why should I complain...hacked machines mean more business for me. %-)

Edit: I was wrong about the Firefox 2.0 bookmarks - it's still pretty slow sometimes, but it doesn't seem as bad as FF 1.5.0.x.

I downloaded Firefox 2 and I am very happy with new features (like spell check and the anti-phishing tool). There is also an improvement with live bookmarks/feeds. However, there are some things I prefer about the old Firefox. I often "power" through my tabs esp. when downloading many files or opening many pages in tabs and then closing them. So I don't like the new way of closing tabs. I liked the "x" at the the right side of the screen how it used to be, not on each tab like it is now...if that makes any sense. I think it will be a bit slower doing it this way. No big deal anyway (IE7 seems to have the same thing). I do like the new glass-like buttons. After being an IE user for years I changed to Firefox a few months ago and have been really happy. I don't think I'll switch back to IE7, however I do like the tab-previews in IE7 where you can view thumbs of all your tabbed pages. The inbuilt search with Firefox 2 is good especially because there are many more search providers to choose from than with IE7. Tabs seem to be just as fast. I must make a comment about IE7 too while I am here. I think that IE7 is a good solid browser with some good improvements (still not as good as Firefox 2 or Opera) but I hate the tabs in IE7. The tabs seem to be much slower than in Firefox (1 and 2) and the tabs are so big.

Just downloaded and installed it now, looks better and i do like it...using like 47mbs of ram and 2% CPU with only this window open but tbh i dont care it could use like 100mbs of ram for all i care i dont often have like loads of programs open that use loads of RAM...

Bryan, try Opera..it doesnt look that good but it also has the tab thigy and i think its a bit faster that Firefox i havent check the memory usage though Way better

and why would anybody use IE 7 o.m.g...

I have Opera. Because I do web design I have all the browsers to make sure the work I do looks good in all of them. That is what brought me to use Firefox. I was an IE fan for years, only used FF to check my work. Then when IE came out with 7 I hated it, but didn't want to uninstall it because I was sure that would cause problems, so I started trying other browsers and I like FF best.

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There is no mail icon in FF 2, whats up with that?? Other then that its a great browser.

Dunker sadly its not *L* coman123 becuse FF dose not do mail,mail is thru Thunderbird :P

Is it me but does Firefox take longer than IE to load... I like the features and all but i may even try avant or Opera maybe later.

OK so I have used Firefox and IE 7 for the past one month and i feel although i like most of the features on Firefox I prefer IE 6 not even 7 because the layout and all is actually smaller and does not take up that much memory so i have nothing to really worry about in load times. I just update the feature of IE Spell Check and it works as i want it too.

borhan9 Meh FF blows IE out of the water you have to nitpitch and tweak IE so much only to run as good as FF....

I hate IE7 its the biggest piece of crap ive ever seen, it doesnt even work properly for me either. Whenever i click in the address bar to type a URL the screen starts flicking and going crazy, not even the MS hotfix solved it even though it was the whole reason for the hotfix. FF for me thanks anyday.

Ok well I have reverted back to Firefox. Not because of the vast majority here it was because mainly I got used to Firefox in the month i ran it and when i went back it was just not for me anymore.

I have one major issue with Firefox and that is that it does not play streaming video properly and that means not at all. e.g. Youtube

Any Ideas??

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"the mediocre teacher tells. the good teacher explains. the superior teacher demonstrates. the great teacher inspires."- William Aruthur Ward

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Ok well I have reverted back to Firefox. Not because of the vast majority here it was because mainly I got used to Firefox in the month i ran it and when i went back it was just not for me anymore.

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@ZippyDSM
Cool thanxs mate ill have a look at the vlc plugin i have a updated codec pack but ill try something :)

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@ZippyDSM
Cool thanxs mate ill have a look at the vlc plugin i have a updated codec pack but ill try something :)

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