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Xbox Live, soon free?

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 20 Mar 2007 6:54 User comments (73)

Xbox Live, soon free? As the next generation console battle rages on, one question continually comes to the consumer's mind. For how much longer can Microsoft continue to charge $70-a-year for a subscription to Xbox Live?
With Microsoft's announcement last week that they will be introducing cross-platform play in June (allowing Xbox Live subscribers to play against gamers on Widows Vista pc's) many Xbox Live subscribers were excited for the new feature that wont cost them one cent more then their annual fee they are already paying. Microsoft however, must notice that most PC owners will not pay for features that they have been gettting free for years. In my opinion, a Gamertag is not worth $70-a-year.

After this, the real question lies in how long Xbox Live can stay a pay service when the free PlayStation 3 online service gets going.

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120.3.2007 7:24

Yay!

220.3.2007 7:47

now maybe i'll get live

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320.3.2007 8:09

Funny, I always thought it would go the other way. How long could Sony not charge for online play? This works out in my favor seeing I own a 360 and not a PS3.

420.3.2007 8:17

Originally posted by Kasper45:
Funny, I always thought it would go the other way. How long could Sony not charge for online play? This works out in my favor seeing I own a 360 and not a PS3.

Because of this, I want to get a 360!

520.3.2007 8:25

hell way back in the day when i was deciding between xbox and ps2 i knew xbox had te better system but i wasnt about to pay 50 a game and 40 for online each year, thats a ripoff. im use to playing cracked games on pirate servers, i dont pay shit for shit.

so i got a ps2, knowing that the cost of ownership would be nothing because the games are easily copyable, the online was free, and i could even use my copied games online with the right tools. and if i ever got banned from ps2 i could just alter my machines mac address and hop back on. the comparison between the cost of ownership between xbox and ps2 is like several hundred dollars compared to 30 bucks, the cost of the swap magic kit.

620.3.2007 8:25

And thats why i love competition since the result is always positive for the consumers.

720.3.2007 8:27
psyantist
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Hmmm, I don't know who is paying $80.00 a year but they are getting ripped off because a Gold membership is only $50.00 a year. However, if it were to be free I would be up for that.

820.3.2007 9:02

EDIT.

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920.3.2007 9:02

I've had live for about 8 months, and Xbox Live have a lot of subscribers, as long as they are still making this much money, then they'll continue to charge.

-Mike

1020.3.2007 9:13
webe123
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Originally posted by Mik3h:
I've had live for about 8 months, and Xbox Live have a lot of subscribers, as long as they are still making this much money, then they'll continue to charge.

-Mike

The whole point is...that as soon as Sony starts to give free online gaming service, Microsoft is going to be out in the cold.

I doubt very seriously that Microsoft will continue to charge when it's competitor (Sony) is not. That would just be Microsoft slitting it's own throat!
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1120.3.2007 10:01
fgamer
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Sony has never charged for there online service. Microsoft has always charged and that's the way it's going to stay. You have to be really incompetent if you really believe Microsft will stop charging people for Xbox Live just because PC gamers are used to not paying....lets be serious.

1220.3.2007 10:32

thats not the point, the point is how long will MS be able to charge when PS3 online gets into full swing AND pc users dont decide to pay

1320.3.2007 11:56

I was about to say the same thing. There isn't a single hint of actual fact in here. It's no better than me saying "Sony is losing exclusive games, they may start producing God of War for Xbox 360".

There's just no basis there, it's unlikely that this will happen in the next year, as M$ has commonly mentioned that "Windows Live will be included in the price" regarding XBox Live. That doesn't tell me free. That doesn't even hint at free. In fact, that suggests solid pricing policies.

I'd love for it to be free, but I don't foresee it, without a major emphasis going into micro-transactions. And even then, how truly free would it be?

1420.3.2007 12:33

Xbox live on original xbox was so [is] much better then PS2 online play because you pay for it and can demand a high quality experience ultimately free of lag, on well maintained networks.

1520.3.2007 14:15
ThaJazz
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i mean xboxlive cost 50.00 per year thats like 80cents per week if you are that cheap then its not for you.xboxlive is a much better service because we pay money and microsoft can offer us more in terms of service.ps2 was free but it sucked big time

1620.3.2007 16:05
veigo
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I just got the 2 month free trial x-box live and so far it sucks. Im using the original x-box and out of the 20 live enabled games I have only two have people playing them ever. star wars jedi academy and halo 2 and they both suck. The best thing I've got from the trial is yavvin station for star wars kotor and some maps for other games. Why pay for sucky x-box live if the games I have nobody ever plays. A few bucks more I can go and play a mmorpg that millions play.

1720.3.2007 16:44
ThaJazz
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you are playing the original xbox and you say no one is on line in those games.well no shit they all have the 360 get your money up

1820.3.2007 17:13
veigo
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Originally posted by ThaJazz:
you are playing the original xbox and you say no one is on line in those games.well no shit they all have the 360 get your money up
Why so I can buy games I hate? Not one game for 360 I will ever want. "Get my money up" f*** you I'm not going to buy a $300-$500 paper weight. Either way the same thing will happen to the 360 games in time, pay for a new game every month because people move on and abandon the ones you spent $60 a pop on to rot plus $70 a year for the sub. The mmorpgs I play have millions of players and it's not a gamble if people will be playing. A year from now every live enabled game you play will be dead and void of players.
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1921.3.2007 5:15

Just like any other game out there, after it's had it's big spotlight, everyone moves on to other games. Only a few old games really last online. But that has nothing to do with a service, that has everything to do with the game you are playing. Case in point Halo 2 is a few years old now; but still has a legion of fans. When Gears of War hit, a decent number of Halo2 players switched over, but there's still a large chunk of them left. When Halo3 hits, I speculate that about 1/5 of the halo2 players will stay back, because they either don't have/can't get Halo3, or because they "Prefer the old one" lol.

That's just how it goes, but to use a system that hasn't had first party titles in over a year, and that is acknowledged as dead by it's producer, as a judge for an online service.... Not accurate at all. Many xbox users traded theirs in for 360s; and because of that only a few old xbox games get much play; because only certain ones work on their 360's, not to mention there's a good chance they're off playing newer games.

Live is a service to allow gamers to play games... They don't pay people to play with you, lol.

Either way, Live still has Sony's online platform beat, sure it isn't free, but I'll take all the extra features of Live for pay any day. Yeah, Sony is getting closer, but there's still a lot they can't do that M$ does.

2021.3.2007 8:22
psyantist
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Viego - dude you are not smart.

2121.3.2007 12:42

lol; no, he's not.

Some games have longer online life than others. Regardless of what systems they're on. Some will last years, others barely survive for one month. It has nothing to do with a service, and isn't something that Sony, M$ or any other online service controls; it's about what other people are playing. If you're not playing the same game, it does you no good.

Great place, btw, to post your little anti-M$ rant, considering this will naturally attract a lot of M$ fanboys, and in many cases starts a flame war.

If you don't like the games most people are playing, odds are you're broke or you have bad taste. Neither one is Microsoft's fault. If you don't like M$, then at least pick a legitimate reason and place to pick at them. Your complaints regarding game selection and your game selection are out of place here.

This topic is related to the possibility of the live service going free.




"Its not stupid, its advanced!" - The Almighty Tallest, Invader Zim

2221.3.2007 12:51
ThaJazz
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HANDSOM YOU ARE THE MAN

2321.3.2007 13:49
veigo
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Originally posted by psyantist:
Viego - dude you are not smart.
edited by ddp I'm not filthy rich like you to buy a new game every day month. edited by ddp !! Account closed here I won't waste any more of my time on snobs. It's a design flaw in it if you don't intend on buying current games to play and keep buying more and more current games then it's a useless service. Perfect Dark zero is the only game I would buy a 360 for and I'm not throwing a months pay down the toliet to buy the console then pay for live serivce just for one game that will eventually empty out. If the service were actually free it would be different but $70 for live to play one game ? Oh and edited by ddp for calling me stupid edited by ddp! Account closed. I point out the design flaw in x box live and what do I get called stupid and told off. If this were a different era I would be slapping someone in the face with my dueling gauntlet for satisfaction.
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2421.3.2007 14:06

It's probably a good thing that you've 'closed' your account, this thread has just been reported. This isn't a place for people to go on angry curse-rants. Either way, I'm aniticpating that the word 'newbie' under your name is about to be replaced with a phrase containing the word 'suspended'.

And if historical tendencies are right, then lightning just might strike.




"Its not stupid, its advanced!" - The Almighty Tallest, Invader Zim

2521.3.2007 14:20
ThaJazz
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and i will say it again HANDSOM you are the MAN

2621.3.2007 15:09

veigo, lightning struck & post edited!!!

2721.3.2007 15:10

Originally posted by veigo:
I just got the 2 month free trial x-box live and so far it sucks. Im using the original x-box and out of the 20 live enabled games I have only two have people playing them ever. star wars jedi academy and halo 2 and they both suck. The best thing I've got from the trial is yavvin station for star wars kotor and some maps for other games. Why pay for sucky x-box live if the games I have nobody ever plays. A few bucks more I can go and play a mmorpg that millions play.
Bullshit:

[FACT Halo 2 IS the most played game for xbox live period] and you don't own an xbox well if halo 2 sucked why would you go online with it dipstick


EDIT: D'oh he's been canned and i was so look'n forward to a scrap...lol... anyone else wanna take up his reins :p
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2821.3.2007 15:14

scorpNZ
Halo 2 dose play badly tho.....


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2921.3.2007 15:23

scorpNZ, not my fault you are slow at typing. you got to be quick before we mods can the idiots unless we send them to the safety wolves.

3021.3.2007 15:26

Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:
scorpNZ
Halo 2 dose play badly tho.....
I'd only been on live a few times i found it not too bad lag wise,well compared to socom or burnout...lol...the only bit i did'nt like was the duel names that appeared in some rooms and then get doulbe teamed in a normal death match other than that i never noticed any significant amounts of lag for xbox-1 live, as for offline play there does'nt appear to be many glitches and at least when there's a stack of AI nearby and fighting happening the game does'nt go laggy or slow down like some games i can think of.

3121.3.2007 15:31

IDK about you guys but I dont pay $70 for my live service haha
veingo is a dumb@55 and needs to learn his facts before he wastes his time , and if he didnt like halo then why the hell would you buy it??
edited by ddp these days

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3221.3.2007 15:34

Originally posted by ddp:
scorpNZ, not my fault you are slow at typing. you got to be quick before we mods can the idiots unless we send them to the safety wolves.
Hehehe it's not the slow typing that takes the time up it's my edit then re-edit then another edit so it only gets a G rating and no parental guidence warning

3321.3.2007 15:34

Quote:
Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:
scorpNZ
Halo 2 dose play badly tho.....
I'd only been on live a few times i found it not too bad lag wise,well compared to socom or burnout...lol...the only bit i did'nt like was the duel names that appeared in some rooms and then get doulbe teamed in a normal death match other than that i never noticed any significant amounts of lag for xbox-1 live, as for offline play there does'nt appear to be many glitches and at least when there's a stack of AI nearby and fighting happening the game does'nt go laggy or slow down like some games i can think of.
Well for me tis not the story or the settings but the gameplay it just dose not play like any other fps I have played the quirky aim system is what got me then add the graphic glitches and button layout its not the "9" fanboys worship more like a 7 if it had button mapping I would give ti a 8 if it had a normal aim system with auto aim/sticky aim toggle I would give it a 9.

I tend to water down the paded scores the game rags give stuff.

Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.

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3421.3.2007 15:36

starchy, watch what you post. post edited

3521.3.2007 15:44

My fault I didnt realize that that word was bad on these forums ill remember next time , thanks for catching me haha

3621.3.2007 15:50

teach & learn

3721.3.2007 16:05

Yeah the aim is kinda weird and then those weapons take up a stack of screen space...lol.. who on earth thought that up

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3821.3.2007 16:09

scorpNZ
fix yer post you gave drive a mac truck threw the hole in it :P

Dont get my wrong Halo is a good series but I can name 2 or 3 better FPS's.


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3921.3.2007 16:15

Originally posted by scorpNZ:
Yeah the aim is kinda weird and then those weapons take up a stack of screen space...lol.. who on earth thought that up
the quote system is fussy try removing all but the last /quote tag

Anyway the aim drives me nuts its the most inefficient auto aim system I have every seen you have to master the game in order to control it right thus making the game a bit leet and snobbish.

I know of 1 other game to have bigger on screen weapons,
UT 03/04
:P

its kinda silly over sized weapons reminds me of the old EGM comic/skit that picked fun at oversized charatcers on some 16bit fighters.


Not having button mapping for a fps is snobbish inventing a odd aim system is leetist >>
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Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.

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4021.3.2007 17:09

Just because you guys don't agree with veigo's opinions doesn't give you the right to call him names and make derogatory statements about him. It's no wonder he went nuclear and told off everyone. Some of you youngsters need to learn how to behave in the real world. Try telling your boss or landlord or anyone with a temper for that matter that he's not smart or some of the crap you've been spewing here and you'll soon find yourself in a fight for your life. Gain some wisdom people.

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4121.3.2007 20:01

There are a few slightly subtle differences here...

-He's not our boss, landlord, or superior; and if he was, he wouldn't know it; so it wouldn't matter anyways.
-We did not call him names. Read again.
-We did not draw issue with his opinion we drew issue with the basis he used to back up his opinion... Because it was a completely irrelevant point. But, we've been over why that is.

Furthermore, I'm not going to be smug enough to make any accusations here, but the fact that you're not only a 'newbie' but that this is your first post; in which you chose to 'step in, and defend a stranger' tells everyone that you're either the same guy who just 'went nuclear', or that you're a buddy. Because frankly, I'm not buying that you just had to go through all the trouble to make an account, fill out the registration, and confirm your e-mail... All to defend a stranger who just told some people off. Like I said, you're either the same guy, or you're a close friend, and either way, your call on what rights we have, has just been deflated.

Welcome to the forums. If you/veigo stick around long enough, you might just enjoy yourself.




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4221.3.2007 22:56

A lot of people are obviously still willing to pay for Live (including me) so I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for it to become completely free just yet. I just wish that M$ would get control of all the bridging and modding that is still very prevalent. There's not many legit 30+ level players left. It's funny watching my son pown all the upper 20's and 30's players that were bridged up several levels illegitimately. BTY, where did the 70.00 for a yearly subscription come from? Live is and has been 49.00 for a year as long as I remember, no?

Also, I think that Oblivion, Gears(a bit over-rated),Call of Duty 2 or 3, NFS Carbon, Project 8, are pretty good games to name a few - worth owning anyway. I also think that the PS3 has got to be the most over-rated/over-priced system on the market though. I'd rather have two 360's for the same price :).

4321.3.2007 23:36

The only free xbox live i'm aware of is for the 360 and something to do with silver subscription and why has the topic starter not backed up his claims with a link ?? can anyone confirm it's not a load of crap

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4422.3.2007 4:50

There is a link, unfortunately the article was pure speculation to begin with. It was an author at a magazine basically saying "Well, the PS3 online service is free.... So the 360 will probably be too." And it's not even someone I've heard of. Heck, I'm completely unfamiliar with the magazine they work for! lol.

So it's basically pure speculation, no better than you or I giving our take on the industry.

4522.3.2007 12:50
psyantist
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ekard = viego,nice try bud. I did however like your analogy of calling your boss an idiot though. So if you were my boss......you are an idiot, and I quit! Try firing me now foo!


Psyantist

4623.3.2007 5:08

That is pretty interesting stuff about MSLive - Free doesn't mean it is better. Live -Silver for 360 is free, and you still can download almost everything you want points for. PS3 still requires you to buy services when online. To think PS3 online is completely free is like thinking Women are just for men to...well you get the picture.

If you want the good stuff in life, you have to pay for it.

4723.3.2007 8:23

Rivex, I couldn't have said it better. Sony is still dancing around the same "We have everything they do" claim; but everytime an interviewer calls them on it... They stop talking. If Sony really does get their act together on that claim, and truly match all of Live's services for free, then M$ will have to rethink their pricing system.

So, for once, I'm rooting Sony on to hurry up and make good with inter-game logins and buddylists, achievements, free and premium downloads, real voice in ALL games, the works. As soon as they do; things may get better on my end, as a 360 owner.

4823.3.2007 16:10
dagobaker
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i payed 50 for 13 months from gamestop for live

4924.3.2007 5:42

That was before 'Gold' came about, and that was because you used it in conjunction with one of the popular 30 day trials back then. The fifty dollar bit doesn't surprise me at all.

But it's gone UP since then. Which is why I'm so quick to doubt M$ plans on going free any time soon.

5024.3.2007 5:47

No my friend , Xbox gold has not gone up ever, but if you see he 60 dollar kit its because it comes with acc. so if you dont want them then you can get the reasonable 50 dollar for one year of service and some stores like gamestop have a sale were you get a one month free =] just to clarify that up with you

5124.3.2007 6:04

Hmmm, the price is different where you are. I was working in a gamestop when the switch occurred. Previously you could get one year with a game/headset for $60, or just the one year card for $50; then when we got all the 360 stuff in, pre-launch, they started shipping the new 'gold cards' which were sixty without anything included, and seventy for the ones that came with a headset and a point card for downloads.

We even had our regional M$ rep in trying to give us scripting for how to explain to the customer that it was suddenly going to be more expensive, rofl.

What area are you in, I'm honestly curious?

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5224.3.2007 6:39
dagobaker
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live in ne ohio bought it around feb 2007 13 months for 50$

5324.3.2007 6:58

New York , 50 for a new subscription card , were are you in , im guessing canada

5424.3.2007 10:03

San Diego. If you can still find an old school live card, it runs fifty here... And M$ will honor it, but not the new ones.

Very interesting.

5524.3.2007 11:26

yeah , werid

5624.3.2007 11:33

Very much so... I'm almost wondering if that was a temporary thing during the first month or so of launch, since they could get away with it easier... I haven't checked since I quite that job a couple months after the launch.

I don't imagine it being different in the same country, even if we are on opposing sides of the country; I'm going to lean more towards temporary price-hikes, seeing as I wouldn't put it past M$ to do that during initial launch.

5724.3.2007 14:15

Yeah i was at walmart today and bestbuy last week and chekced gamestop website they are all 50 for a standard 1 month xbox360 card and more for the kit

5824.3.2007 15:08
ThaJazz
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yes i live in philadelphia and the 1 year card is 50.00 anywhere

5924.3.2007 16:43
psyantist
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Easiest way to pay for live is simply go to your account info on your xbox and pay for it right there. Fitty bones, no more, no less and no bs "extra" crap to go with it.

Best online game service available in the world. If anyone can prove there is another service better I'd like to hear about it.

6024.3.2007 16:47

I won't argue there... I love their online connectivity.

Ironically, as much as I talk them up on here, I am not subscribed, because I'm really upset with them over a large billing discrepancy.

Fortunately, that has nothing to do with the service though. I recommend them for a lot of people; I'm just still pissed about the way they handle the error that they caused.

6124.3.2007 16:50

Originally posted by psyantist:
Easiest way to pay for live is simply go to your account info on your xbox and pay for it right there. Fitty bones, no more, no less and no bs "extra" crap to go with it.

Best online game service available in the world. If anyone can prove there is another service better I'd like to hear about it.
Funny thing abotu that PC games have been free online since forever sure MS needed to charge for it at the start but tis time to create a full featured free service,what they offer is nice but its not worth me paying for it because I rarely use it.

6224.3.2007 16:52

Me, Im fine with the way things are in the online community but the PC gamers should have a choice to have free online service that makes it so that they can only game with other PC's and like a $20 or $30 one were you play everyone you want

6324.3.2007 16:53

Originally posted by handsom:
I won't argue there... I love their online connectivity.

Ironically, as much as I talk them up on here, I am not subscribed, because I'm really upset with them over a large billing discrepancy.

Fortunately, that has nothing to do with the service though. I recommend them for a lot of people; I'm just still pissed about the way they handle the error that they caused.
if you got the moeny and are want to play online yes it is a good service.

6424.3.2007 17:04

Originally posted by starchy:
Me, Im fine with the way things are in the online community but the PC gamers should have a choice to have free online service that makes it so that they can only game with other PC's and like a $20 or $30 one were you play everyone you want
they have the stats and skill ranking they should just let PC and Xbx gamers play with other its kinda silly to keep blocking it like they have been.

LIVE needs a solid free account system,if I want to use it all I would use it for is MPing with friends I know or for a MMO I have to pay monthly for,they way it now they want you to pay to get it then pay have the extra crap you don't really want or need in the first place..

I wish they would one step further and make more premium accounts,I would not mind paying 12 a month for LIVE and 2 MMOs of my choice(of cores I would need to buy said MMO's) or offer a sports setup where you can do the same but get 2 or 3 of whoever subscription based MP sport game.

Gamedome is rotting because they wont spice it up and mix and match.
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6524.3.2007 17:29

Zippy... You're going to love what I have to say next:

Shadowrun is set to be the first inter-system game between 360 and pc. There are supposed to be many after that. I almost have to wonder if we won't see Halo 3 on the pc much quicker than Halo's transition, simply because the inter-system play would allow them to get what may be the biggest market available. With something like that, you could almost face off with Blizzard's online WoW numbers, lol.

But yeah, there are games coming down the pipe, and they're not all that far off.

6624.3.2007 17:49

Originally posted by handsom:
Zippy... You're going to love what I have to say next:

Shadowrun is set to be the first inter-system game between 360 and pc. There are supposed to be many after that. I almost have to wonder if we won't see Halo 3 on the pc much quicker than Halo's transition, simply because the inter-system play would allow them to get what may be the biggest market available. With something like that, you could almost face off with Blizzard's online WoW numbers, lol.

But yeah, there are games coming down the pipe, and they're not all that far off.
ya I know about that,its abotu time,however from what I have seen of the game they cant make up their mind,RPG/FPS/SP/MP/blah/blah its about time tho the skill system would force most player to play in their own skill group.

6724.3.2007 18:03

The ironic thing though; is that it's a useless gesture from M$ at this point. The connection will only be plausible through 360 and a *VISTA* based pc. No xp users on there, what a shame, because I intend to Vista somewhere in the neighborhood of oh, say, never.

6824.3.2007 18:26

Originally posted by handsom:
The ironic thing though; is that it's a useless gesture from M$ at this point. The connection will only be plausible through 360 and a *VISTA* based pc. No xp users on there, what a shame, because I intend to Vista somewhere in the neighborhood of oh, say, never.
We will be upgrading in 2-4 years,upgrading to what I dunno,but vista will only be a option when they fix it.

6925.3.2007 13:23

If by fix it, you mean, pull all the BS that they're actually bragging about right now, like the 'piracy protection' that stops you from running most independent software, killing system resources, needing per-cpu product keys, and forcing DRM and a dial-home device onto your computer... Then sure I'll think about it.

In the meantime though, the Linux OS on my secondary pc is just looking better and better...

7023.9.2009 17:32

ok first of all who ever says that they play all pc games for free and ps3 for free your all wrong it cost anyone either paying for service or not u have to have internet to be able to play that is 30 bucks a month there no one plays for free to be able to play games on pc u have to update your computer all the time for new games thats not free u also have to buy the games to play thats not free nothings free to play realize it 360 is better than ps3 o wow u got a web browser ok if u have internet u will have a computer to browse on who want to browse internet rather than play games not me its gay there browser suxs to also all the game add ons u have to pay for on ps3 its not free it never will be and yes a card for xbox for 12 months is 50 it has never went up ever so u guys rlly need to go check your stores its 50 bucks i just baught one and yes the guys is right it is 60 for a headset keypad and a free game pgr4 thats a deal for an extra 10 bucks plus microsoft owns and wow ps3 has blue ray and xbox has hd they both have same stats dont believe me go pick up an hd dvd and a blue ray disc all the same stats wanna know y cuz there made by same compony blue ray just holds more memory and has a blue bottom thats why its called blue ray.

7123.9.2009 17:50

bjenk, until you replied, this thread hadn't been active for two years.

It's okay to be a fanboy for whichever sytem you like, heck this place is full of them, and I usually lean towards the 360 myself; but you might get more satisfaction replying to something a little more current than this.

And honestly, you might want to tighten up your arguments if you really want to debate with PS3 fanboys... There are a lot of great reasons to prefer the 360(Like I said, I personally prefer the 360 myself), but your points really don't nail it down too well.

"It holds more, and is blue on the bottom, that's why it's called blue ray" isn't really much of an argument...

And stating the obvious like "You have to pay for the system, and the internet, and the parts" isn't going to win any arguments either. We, as 360 users have to shell out for our game system, components and internet too, on top of Live. Personally though, I prefer the Live service, for it's added features and stronger interconnected service between games.

733.5.2010 19:48
Oz
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Hey I think it would be cool to have live free but there making tons of cash and probably never will drop it as it is making them more then 30million a year yet it would be nice if they lowered the price down to lets says 30 dollars a year american/canadian

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