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Xbox 360 Elite Officially Announced

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 28 Mar 2007 20:02 User comments (70)

Xbox 360 Elite Officially Announced Microsoft has finally put all the rumors to rest by officially announcing the black Xbox 360 Elite.
The new 360 will go on sale in the US on April 29th with the retail price of $479 USD.

The new additions are as follows:

- An all black finish with matching accesories such as wireless controllers.

- IPTV capability

- HDMI output

- Detachable 120GB HDD (The HDD is also available seperately for $180 USD)

- A data transfer cable which will allow users to copy game saves, and other content from their other 360 HDD.

Those that buy the new 360 will also get a free Xbox Live Silver Membership and 1 month free Gold Membership.

Note: As many of our Afterdawn readers have noted in past news articles, the new 360 will have the same 90 nm chipset that run in the current 360s. Officials say the new chipset will be available in Premiumm Xbox 360s in the fall.

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128.3.2007 20:25

other good reason to wait 1 more year.

228.3.2007 22:04

180 for the HDD? thats highway robbery......

Wait this has the 90nm CPU?? again highway robbery........


I guess MS is as bad as Sony,yet again a 360 is on the back burner.

At this price a year of Live Gold is not unreasonable come on MS buck up your losing me here.

328.3.2007 23:04

BTW the 120HDD is going to be on the 399 preuims by years end right?

428.3.2007 23:44

unless i run out of space on my 20gig cut down to 13g hd on my brand new current 360 im not worried nor care for this one lol just buy a black case mod imo

smeeZus

529.3.2007 2:46

Most of you are looking at this the wrong way. Our 360s are still great for the time being. This is not to be considered as a upgrade, it is more of an incentive for someone to buy the console. Now sure, we do expect a faster, cooler running, larger capacity, DVD playing and at a reasonable price but M$ will defiantly wait to the prime time of November/December. Hopefully during that time, EB Games and Gamestop will have some nice trade in deals like the did with the regular Xbox.

Just wait and see...and hold your breath for Bioshock and Lost Planet.

629.3.2007 3:37
BobbyBlu
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Everything M$ has been doing farther validate everything Sony has done.This system is a slap in the face to some 360 owner's your not going to tell me that a 20gig HD is going to be enough if someone looking to run IPTV.Then they rip off there customer 180 for a 120g HD 20 bucks more you can buy a HD-DVD DVD drive.No thanks M$ i will keep my PS3.Just keep nickel & dime your customers.Let see if i bought that system plus the HD-DVD drive im looking at that almost 700 bucks...not counting XB live...

729.3.2007 3:48
ThaJazz
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yes i agree this is for new 360 buyers not the us and 180.00 for a 200gig hd is not robbery it is a good deal.considering that the 20gig cost 79.00

829.3.2007 3:52
ThaJazz
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sorry guys met to say 120 gig not 200gig

929.3.2007 4:07
BobbyBlu
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Let be honest i don't think new buyers are look to Buy a 360 because of HDMI & bigger HD.This system is mostly for the die-hard 360 owner's that already have a system.They have been wanting this for at lease half a year now & M$ drop the ball on them.


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180.00 for a 120gig hd is not robbery it is a good deal.considering that the 20gig cost 79.00
Most 20 gig go for peanuts now 40 gig go for 40....Most 120 gig go for 90-100.

1029.3.2007 4:08

F'ing HDMI finally!! Too bad for the other 10+ million of us 360 owners! MS are a bunch of GD liars! Also, it would seem MS did not take note of the gripes about the expense of the PS3, i.e. console-$479+ HDDVD player-$200= a whopping $679!! I guess once you come out of the hole and start to make a profit on a console it's hard to go back to losing money on them (as most companies do with a new console launch).

1129.3.2007 4:16

fock..... i bought a originbal xbox 360, this elite looks much better and cooler :<<

1229.3.2007 4:25

There's an interview out that says this DOES NOT have the 90nm processor, but they worked on the cooling aspect... yeah right. I agree with the costs including HD-DVD, etc. but you can still buy a Premium, or in my case, I got the Core on the cheap and outfitted with a HDD, and still made out $100 cheaper than premium. Don't forget MS has setup the Marketplace for HD movies, so the HD-DVD drive truly is optional. I would rather rent the HD movie for a couple bucks instead of buy a $200 add-on to play $35 movies.

It is true that this thing validates the PS3. Shame on MS.

1329.3.2007 4:54
BobbyBlu
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Is there away to add a Ex.HD to a 360 if someone want to?Because if you can this would be a better option.

1429.3.2007 4:54

MicroCrooks should be there name. Everybody that has the version that tends to break down or burn out should be getting the newer version. M$ is FOS and need to stop trying to rape the customer at every level. But thats their MO taking as much from the consumer.

1529.3.2007 4:56

I would agree on the "Now PS3 doesn't look so bad" argument... It's nice to see that the Xbox offers choices but now to get a PS3 like experience it cost more than the PS3 does. They really should offer a trade in for those who want the new one, they would still make huge money selling the original ones used. I would pay $100.00 and my old 360 premium for the new one. At what price point do you guys think this should go? Your old 360 premium and $?

1629.3.2007 5:02
BobbyBlu
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OMG...I just came across this info some 360 owner's not going to be happy about this.

New restrictions arise on new Xbox 360 drive

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=107528

1729.3.2007 6:11

Actually I still believe that MS still offers a better deal than Sony, because if you buy the Elite with the HD-DVD add-on for $680 you are getting a lot more than with the $600 PS3,that comes with an HDD half as big, no HDMI Cable, no headset and only one optical drive.

The 360 would offer you One ODD for gaming and one for watching movies, which should result in less wear of the lens and a longer life of the units. Trust me, I bought a PS2 at launch and it was used as my family's primary DVD player. I do not recommend this, since it lasted like three years before it's firs repair and two and a half years after that it went bad again.

Also, this SKU won't make your current 360's obsolete, it is probably a futile decision to convince people who are considering the PS3, and a gift for MS fanatics, who will act all angry at first but will end up getting the Elite anyway with a smile on their faces.

1829.3.2007 6:37

cant you just upgrade the HDD on the regular premium?

1929.3.2007 7:05
ThaJazz
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yes u can for 180.00 usd

2029.3.2007 7:11

can you put like your own hard drive in the 360

like a 500gb hdd

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2129.3.2007 7:15

At least MS has brought out an upgraded system rather than a slim version with the same specs.

Also didn't the PS2 bring out a hard drive a while after releasing, all the people paying $30+ for a 8MB memory card, now that is highway robbery.

2229.3.2007 7:24

pretty disappointing tbh....got my 360 5months ago....a smack in the face for anyone who has already bought a 360...tink ill buy a ps3 and stick my middle finger up to greedy guts bill

2329.3.2007 7:26

Originally posted by BobbyBlu:
Is there away to add a Ex.HD to a 360 if someone want to?Because if you can this would be a better option.

yea is there a way to add an extra hard drive or replace it?

2429.3.2007 7:57

BobbyBlu
it still might suck but in the end the 360 simply offers more than the PS3 dose,no one wants to buy 30-50$ BR/HDVD moives ,the PS3 lacks games and its online is still weak.

2529.3.2007 8:02
BobbyBlu
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Quote:
At least MS has brought out an upgraded system rather than a slim version with the same specs.

Also didn't the PS2 bring out a hard drive a while after releasing, all the people paying $30+ for a 8MB memory card, now that is highway robbery.
Thats the problem 360 only 1 year old & there at 360 1.3 already i don't know bout you but i would be pissed about this system all these thing they could have added in on the first 360 none of these are cutting edge stuff.No PS2 had a slot already built in for the HD but it took them 3 year before they released the Sony HD.What Sony did is not the same as what M$ doing to there customer...

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it still might suck but in the end the 360 simply offers more than the PS3 dose
No they don't Zippy i'm not going to even going to get into to this debate because its a loss cause on your part.
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2629.3.2007 9:20

not to be a jerk, but wah wah wah wah!!!!!
All you early 360 adopters, what do you expect!?
Don't you people know by now that M$ is in it for the money and nothing else? Can anyone say Windows *insert version*!
Also, hasn't anyone learned from previous system launches there are always always always system revisions! PS2 is on revision what 12?! NO more wankerin from you early adopters. It's only common sense to think you guys lended your selves, and hard earned money, as ginea pigs.
This is why I sit back wait for bugs to get sorted out, prices to drop, and get the most bang for my buck.
Sorry fellas, but maybe next time you will wait to get your moneys worth instead of being the first kid on the block with a New Buggy overprice system. ;-)

2729.3.2007 9:38

remember guys that this is not meant to replace existing 360s, its only a new option available for current owners or new interested buyers ;)

2829.3.2007 9:41
BobbyBlu
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Quote:
Also, hasn't anyone learned from previous system launches there are always always always system revisions!
Yeah your right but revision of a console in one year is un-heard of.Make me think how long has M$ had this in the works got to be near there launch or right after.

2929.3.2007 11:04

as long as i care they can make 3 revisions a year, as long as there is a path to upgrade, go for it, if they say that now you can have the xbox processor upgraded and if i think is worth it ill do it, if they say you can now change the graphix card, fine if i think its really a good thing ill do it, i`ve been playing video games for as long as i can remember, and the best video games have been always on pcs (at least graphics have always been better) and this update all the time frenzy has always been the way it gets, so for me, 25 3d graf cards, 12 cpus, and around 15 Ram memories, if i add it all up i guess paying $180usd for an upgrade is not a first nor the most expensive, try buying the newest nvidia around you´ll know what i mean :D, just my 2c

3030.3.2007 2:58

Quote:
Also, hasn't anyone learned from previous system launches there are always always always system revisions!

Yeah your right but revision of a console in one year is un-heard of.Make me think how long has M$ had this in the works got to be near there launch or right after.
WTF you are just a fanboy who cant see past his own nose,the PS2 had 12 revisions over 3 or 5 years and some sprung from the DRE issues not to mention the the slight change in the USB port in the V1-5 V7+ so please tell me O'high priest of "$"ony that they can do no wrong......in the long run there is lil difference in M$ and $ony both like screwing up and blaming the consumer.
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3130.3.2007 8:30

SONY JUS GOT B**** SLAPD!!!

3230.3.2007 14:47
gus738
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whooa im glad i bought my xbox 360 at costco as i knew the day would come.... black 360 here i come and i dont loose from my white 360 it a bug edition plus costco warranty >>>

3331.3.2007 3:43

I'm stoked for this. I know a lot of people seem to think that MS coming out with a new version is somehow a slap in the face to existing customers, but to me it's just the opposite. I have had a 360 since a couple months after launch and definitely will be getting an Elite. I've been wishing I had 2 360s anyway so I can have one hooked up to my 2nd HDTV. This rocks!! The hard drive thing isn't a big deal to me either. If I want my gave saves on both hard drives, all I have to do save them on a memory card or the pc until I transfer my other stuff to the bigger hard drive, then save them back to the old drive for my old 360 in the other room.
I always get a kick out of the flaming fanboy wars on the forums. I don't see why people can't just like the good things about each console. I love the 360 and at some point I certainly plan to get a PS3 as well once some games come out. I know they are competing companies with each other, but not to me. I love great technology and games no matter which company makes them.

3431.3.2007 18:50

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ZIppyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 30 March 2007 6:58 _

Quote:Also, hasn't anyone learned from previous system launches there are always always always system revisions!

Yeah your right but revision of a console in one year is un-heard of.Make me think how long has M$ had this in the works got to be near there launch or right after.

WTF you are just a fanboy who cant see past his own nose,the PS2 had 12 revisions over 3 or 5 years and some sprung from the DRE issues not to mention the the slight change in the USB port in the V1-5 V7+ so please tell me O'high priest of "$"ony that they can do no wrong......in the long run there is lil difference in M$ and $ony both like screwing up and blaming the consumer.
You've done your fair share of hating on Sony Zippy, now when someone hates on Microsoft you flame them? Thats not very mature for someone who claimes to be an old jaded gamer.

3531.3.2007 19:07
cappyx
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As much as I hate to say this however, you all knew when you bought the first gen you were basically going to be beta testers for ms. On the other hand the first gen of ps3 buyers will be the same. For those of us who wait for the 2nd or 3rd gen this system is sweet. Personally I don’t really care about the HD-DVD portion as my common rule is my gamming system is for games and my DVD player is for movies. I would simply buy a HD-DVD stand alone player. In any event new purchasers should be happy with this system.

3631.3.2007 19:57

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[quote]ZIppyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 30 March 2007 6:58 _

Quote:Also, hasn't anyone learned from previous system launches there are always always always system revisions!

Yeah your right but revision of a console in one year is un-heard of.Make me think how long has M$ had this in the works got to be near there launch or right after.

WTF you are just a fanboy who cant see past his own nose,the PS2 had 12 revisions over 3 or 5 years and some sprung from the DRE issues not to mention the the slight change in the USB port in the V1-5 V7+ so please tell me O'high priest of "$"ony that they can do no wrong......in the long run there is lil difference in M$ and $ony both like screwing up and blaming the consumer.
You've done your fair share of hating on Sony Zippy, now when someone hates on Microsoft you flame them? Thats not very mature for someone who claimes to be an old jaded gamer.[/quote]
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you've not seen me flaming M$ then :P
Recap

M$ has screwed up so much I am surprised they still have a consumer base,a blanket recall would have fixed the 360 but no they played tag with bad hardware and played it down while slowly screwing over consumers then in order to prevent a full scale class action suit they exstened the warranty that right their says screwup/cover up

Moving along to net why don't they have a simple coherent free net where can message and MP SOME no its in 2 flavors free and pointless and the mark of M,now after all this time what do we have today we have a ok line of up of games still have alot of bad hardware and what do they do they release a black version of the 360 with a 50$ case 90$ HDD and revised chipset and claim "elite" I am sorry but tis abotu as elite as a 5grand gaming rig thats 4 years old.

Not only have they held back the fix they have managed to paint a rusty box gold and sale it as golden.....huff huff.....the only saving grace is the TRUE 360 that will be out around fall.
....huff huff.......

Now where was I,the PS3 has its faults sadly the 360 has as many ,the WII is suffering from "thoughts of adequacy " now take them and their shoty ingredients add the general corruption/glamor/pompousness of the gaming biz its going to be one hell of a ride.

PS:might as well dish on the WII while I am not baned,the indutry is still rather "top heavy" meaning it favors power and graphics over substance and gamepaly the WII has potential but I am unimpressed so far by it tis mostly gimmicky control scheme on games that where made for a more traditional control setup add that with Xbox like graphics you have to wonder will it make it a whole 5 years.

I do see light at the end of the tunnel believe it or not the 360/MS is getting a new real fix this is great news for all,I seee the 360 doing what the Xbox did for the most part unless devs jump ship from the PS3 the 360 wont make headway but they should do well with what they got,I call it 50/50 for them upgrading live to some form of real free plan.

Sony needs to lower the price of the PS3 but it will fall in time anyway,they also need to keep a "caring" eye on BWC and not let it fall to the waste side like MS has theirs,games will come and things will improve on that end,the online is improving bit by bit,if sony would have made BWC a main part of the PS3's future I would think the extra cost would be well worth it.
BTW BR is laggy but will be fixed as they understand the new medium.

WII if nintedno can focus more on control polishing it more and give devs better ways to harness it the WII should be unmatched in play control,realistically I see them doing the best with what they got not going out of their way to improve things as best as it can be,I do miss the days of button mapping for some/most games....the WII will keep a large niche on price alone.
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3731.3.2007 20:11

I agree the Wii has great potential to be fun but I dont see developers taking the time that Nintendo did to make a game like the new Zelda. Probably more likely to be like Red Steel. With this new "elite" 360 going for $479 USD, I think if Sonly lowered the price of the PS3 to $500 USD they would fly off the shelves. Just need to get something worth buying besides Resistance. People new that Microsoft was going to nickle and dime them to death because that is what Microsoft does. It started with the $50 a year online thing, that will probably get dumped now that they have some competition. And now that Sony has released a superior product technology wise, they are having to upgrade their techonology so that when Sony does lower their price they arent forgotten about.

3831.3.2007 20:27

Originally posted by wetsparks:
I agree the Wii has great potential to be fun but I dont see developers taking the time that Nintendo did to make a game like the new Zelda. Probably more likely to be like Red Steel. With this new "elite" 360 going for $479 USD, I think if Sonly lowered the price of the PS3 to $500 USD they would fly off the shelves. Just need to get something worth buying besides Resistance. People new that Microsoft was going to nickle and dime them to death because that is what Microsoft does. It started with the $50 a year online thing, that will probably get dumped now that they have some competition. And now that Sony has released a superior product technology wise, they are having to upgrade their techonology so that when Sony does lower their price they arent forgotten about.
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In part MS needed to build a good game network and used that money well I think its now time to do something more than annoy gamers with spending more money at their store,I think its tiem MS can have the best free online gaming setup ever.

I think SOnys launch mistakes where having anythign to do with 2 PS3s thats a pointless mess that will confuse the consumer,they would have been much better off offer the 60GB with out a controller for 450 and offer a PS2mem/PS3 pad/extra wires combo pack for 60,they've have gotten fat and lazy with their pricing schemes,at 450 the PS3 would rein at 500 it would have done good,as it is now its kinda sloppying around a bit.

I really wish Nin would make a pad congfig so you can button map and change the control layout 1 to remap for new games or change senistivy to smooth out "issues" as well as full BWC for the more and NB I would love to play some of the N64 games with the wii mote and NB :3
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391.4.2007 1:50
BobbyBlu
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Originally posted by Zippy:
WTF you are just a fanboy who cant see past his own nose,the PS2 had 12 revisions over 3 or 5 years and some sprung from the DRE issues not to mention the the slight change in the USB port in the V1-5 V7+ so please tell me O'high priest of "$"ony that they can do no wrong......in the long run there is lil difference in M$ and $ony both like screwing up and blaming the consumer.
What you fall to see is that if Sony had 30 in 6 months they didn't raise the price like Microsoft did plus if you take off those hater aid blinder's you would see that.Microsoft been over there first owner customer & this don't stop the fact that alot of them are pissed i would be also.The things Microsoft add to the elite was not cutting edge so please tell me old wise one have Sony every done any BS like this in a years time...That would be hell no.

Reaction to the Elite's announcement has been negative, says research group

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=107708

You troll around these boards & anyone who speak good of Sony you have a problem with it or any tread that has something good about Sony it always a PR spin get real.Everybody know that Sony has its Demon but that don't stop them from being a very successfully company give them credit when credit is due.

401.4.2007 10:45

BB
and why pray tell did they have to do 16 revisions so far with slim line lazer issues and USB issues and other issues all hidden away from the consumer at least MS is its mistakes are so blatant anyone can see them.

it seems you cant read....let me repost it from above
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M$ has screwed up so much I am surprised they still have a consumer base,a blanket recall would have fixed the 360 but no they played tag with bad hardware and played it down while slowly screwing over consumers then in order to prevent a full scale class action suit they exstened the warranty that right their says screwup/cover up

Moving along to net why don't they have a simple coherent free net where can message and MP SOME no its in 2 flavors free and pointless and the mark of M,now after all this time what do we have today we have a ok line of up of games still have alot of bad hardware and what do they do they release a black version of the 360 with a 50$ case 90$ HDD and revised chipset and claim "elite" I am sorry but tis abotu as elite as a 5grand gaming rig thats 4 years old.

Not only have they held back the fix they have managed to paint a rusty box gold and sale it as golden.....huff huff.....the only saving grace is the TRUE 360 that will be out around fall.
....huff huff.......

Now where was I,the PS3 has its faults sadly the 360 has as many ,the WII is suffering from "thoughts of adequacy " now take them and their shoty ingredients add the general corruption/glamor/pompousness of the gaming biz its going to be one hell of a ride.
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I dont want 40$ BR/HDVD moives,I don't need high def believe it or not things they can hurt a system,If sony released the 60GB PS3 for 500 and never did the 20GB, dint try to play games with the consumer by dcking with BWC and other things I might not be on their case I might think they are a sane Brand bringing a high end machine to the consumer at a less than premium price,sadly like MS they want their cake and eat it to on the coffin of the consumer.

411.4.2007 15:05

Hey Zippy you are wasting your breath on BlueBoy who will never agree with you no matter how much sense you make with your post. Little BoyBlue has his own agenda with sony . Any one with common sense should be able to understand that M$ or Sony doesnt care how much money we are spending on revisions as long as the consumer(thats me and you LittleBB) keep opening there wallets. If sony ever comes down in price I might buy one, but when the Black Xbox360 comes out with new chipset(65nm)I will own one with another HD/DVD player.

421.4.2007 16:49

UHALL
Dun matter I like stating a opinion I am happy with ,thats why post so much :P

its a shame MS/Sony have to dck about so much.

431.4.2007 21:30

I was in game stop the other day, 360 has more games that support 1080p. I thought ps3 was the big 1080p system, not so. Def Jam Icon ps3 720p, 360 1080p, and more games to boot. And as for the Elite, I'm trading my 360 in and upgrading. A move for the future. This generation will last for at least 5-7 more years. Therefore, the money shouldn't be an issue with either system. House prices go up, car prices go up, computer prices go up, so console prices will go up. Your paying for the future. $400, $500, $600, whatever, averages out to less than $100 per year, that's not a lot. Games system keep an idol mind busy, and keeps a lot of poeple out of trouble,

so money shouldn't be an issue. Look at it as an investment. The Elite is well worth the money! And as for 360 not including HD DVD, we'll if BLU RAY wins out, good for Sony, and 360 can create a add-on BLU RAY player, But if HD DVD wins out Sony loses. And who over uses thier console for double duty, your shortening the life of your system.

441.4.2007 21:39

Originally posted by paris37:
I was in game stop the other day, 360 has more games that support 1080p. I thought ps3 was the big 1080p system, not so. Def Jam Icon ps3 720p, 360 1080p, and more games to boot. And as for the Elite, I'm trading my 360 in and upgrading. A move for the future. This generation will last for at least 5-7 more years. Therefore, the money shouldn't be an issue with either system. House prices go up, car prices go up, computer prices go up, so console prices will go up. Your paying for the future. $400, $500, $600, whatever, averages out to less than $100 per year, that's not a lot. Games system keep an idol mind busy, and keeps a lot of poeple out of trouble,

so money shouldn't be an issue. Look at it as an investment. The Elite is well worth the money! And as for 360 not including HD DVD, we'll if BLU RAY wins out, good for Sony, and 360 can create a add-on BLU RAY player, But if HD DVD wins out Sony loses. And who over uses thier console for double duty, your shortening the life of your system.

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Last I checked more PS3 games will have full HDef support because most of them are not out yet,that what the PS3 is built around allot of launch titles lack polish so there should be more PS3 games that do it by the end of the year.

Might as well wait till the end of the year the REAL fix for the 360 will by the new white premium with the better CPU in it,the "Elite" system is glaze over the heating issues of the 360 by just putting HDMI in it,it might have a extra fan but your better off to get the "real" thing later this year.

As for price sure it offers what it says it dose I am not impressed in fact I am loathing MS right now for this elite BS the 64nm CPU should be in this this should be the fix peopel have been waiting on well its not.

the PS3 is ok if you have a full Hdef setup less so otherwise,it needs games and well have them sooner or later.


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451.4.2007 21:48

Where can I find information on that premium white 360 with better CPU?

461.4.2007 22:23

Originally posted by paris37:
Where can I find information on that premium white 360 with better CPU?

cant find my old link so heres soem new
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=...cpu&btnG=Search

it seems that no one knows what CPU will really be in the Elites the 65nm is delayed by a quarter(3-4 months) and the Elite will be out by summer so this means its either in them or wont in the 360 till fall ><


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472.4.2007 4:50

Originally posted by ceno82:
not to be a jerk, but wah wah wah wah!!!!!
All you early 360 adopters, what do you expect!?
Don't you people know by now that M$ is in it for the money and nothing else? Can anyone say Windows *insert version*!
Also, hasn't anyone learned from previous system launches there are always always always system revisions! PS2 is on revision what 12?! NO more wankerin from you early adopters. It's only common sense to think you guys lended your selves, and hard earned money, as ginea pigs.
This is why I sit back wait for bugs to get sorted out, prices to drop, and get the most bang for my buck.
Sorry fellas, but maybe next time you will wait to get your moneys worth instead of being the first kid on the block with a New Buggy overprice system. ;-)
I bought my system 3 months ago! Not on day one. I would expect the "bugs" to be worked out after a year or from launch!

482.4.2007 7:12

New chipset? After this Elite? I thought we were trying to stay away from wacky 'PC' upgrade issues.

Maybe they should have made it modular; so you could replace the CPU and HD. With MS braded items of course, but just as you guys feel stiffed for taking the 1st gen box, I don't want to feel stiffed getting the Elite, when there is yet another one on the horizon after that.

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492.4.2007 8:22

Originally posted by ZzeusS:
New chipset? After this Elite? I thought we were trying to stay away from wacky 'PC' upgrade issues.

Maybe they should have made it modular; so you could replace the CPU and HD. With MS braded items of course, but just as you guys feel stiffed for taking the 1st gen box, I don't want to feel stiffed getting the Elite, when there is yet another one on the horizon after that.
the PS2 has 16 revivsions counting the USB changes and the slim line,becuse it was done in silence there was not a huge uproar over it the PS2 did have allot of lens issues even the slim line had them.

the 360 is a case of the factory making shoty hardware they should ahve recalled it from the start but by brining in the fickle systems and repairing them and useing them to repair others its not helped things much...

The elite might have the 64nm CPU if it dose it would be worth every penny because it wont have the hardware issues thats been plaguing the 360,if it dosent it will have a higher chance to fry from heat...we will know in acouple months what it will have.

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502.4.2007 8:55
janrocks
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@ ZzeusS

We were promised last summer an upgrade to the smaller die size cpu, reasons given.. less heat dissipation leading to improved cooling. A plus along the way is a slight performance boost due to reduced transfer times internally in the cpu.
To tell the truth I thought on first hearing that this was it. The serious reliability and performance upgrade we were promised.. but it seems not. The black case is cool.. fair enough, but they only cost $25 in any colour you can think of. The large HDD.. again fair do's but none of this justifies the higher price tag. The price for a larger HDD is extortionate when you consider it is only a standard laptop device in a pretty shell (you can upgrade them too..yourself.. see link later)
All in all, rather disappointing, especially as I had the news of this "supposed" upgrade in july/august last year from the console division of M$ themselves.. Seems like they have hit troubles with the new cpu and are sticking to a release schedule even without the promised hardware to back it up..

How to add a large usb HDD to your 360.. http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/mods/USB%20Hard%20Drive%20Mod.htm

And connect to your PC for backup and storage..
http://secure.llamma.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=711

(deliberately not mentioned the ps3 because it's nothing to do with this subject.. and I'm not in the mood for $ony employee blu-kn*bhead and his terminal fanboy disease)

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512.4.2007 9:16

janrocks
can you please tell me what files are non transferable to a USB drive on the Xbox/360 I read somethings and gotten confused.

because some files are DRM'd you cant simply put them on a detachable drive.

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522.4.2007 9:23

BobbyBlu,

You've been suspended before for making personal comments and your taunts towards Zippy show me you don't care to respect my warnings. You've been in the middle of too many fanboy arguments and I'm putting an end to it.




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532.4.2007 9:31

Originally posted by Nephilim:
BobbyBlu,

You've been suspended before for making personal comments and your taunts towards Zippy show me you don't care to respect my warnings. You've been in the middle of too many fanboy arguments and I'm putting an end to it.

you and the mods do a great job,thank you for you time,I have a question,I think I tend to troll a bit when I am nibble on the caffeine you guys need to help me curve some of my trolling if need be :X

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542.4.2007 10:14
Bobbyback
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
WTF you are just a fanboy who cant see past his own nose,the PS2 had 12 revisions over 3 or 5 years and some sprung from the DRE issues not to mention the the slight change in the USB port in the V1-5 V7+ so please tell me O'high priest of "$"ony that they can do no wrong......in the long run there is lil difference in M$ and $ony both like screwing up and blaming the consumer.
I guess i would be banned because i don't share the same view point as everyone do on here but i get flamed over & over no mod shows up ever after pushing the report thread button...But this is why this site is in the dumps because if anyone have a different opinion your at odd's with everyone...I guess you want people to kiss you ass Nephilim but im not going to.But its strange that you only look at the posts you want to look at.ZippyDSM has troll these forum for months and walk the line & no one banned him but the min i respond i get banned so i say go & edited by ddp yourself & that my friend Nephilim is the Big Picture.
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552.4.2007 10:20

Bobbyback
I got a weeks ban for flaming/trolling it happens to us all now and then,and more so to thos that think they are always right.
I know I am wrong abotu allot of things but I will stink up a room with my opinion maker when I just have to let it out :P


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562.4.2007 10:46
Bobbyback
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Quote:
Bobbyback
I got a weeks ban for flaming/trolling it happens to us all now and then,and more so to thos that think they are always right.
I know I am wrong abotu allot of things but I will stink up a room with my opinion maker when I just have to let it out
Please all the Flaming you & your buddy HughJar did to people...That Bullshit.That the reason most people in the PS3 forum didn't post anything on the news post because it alright to flame Sony but if some one see the other way Mods turn there heads.

HughJars calling me a Shill for months not one mod did a dam thing.7 that little Bastard PlutoNash also.
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572.4.2007 10:52

Every time they come back it's always the same "F You" Nephilim you elitest biased a-hole". Natural reaction I guess. Call me what you want Bobby but it's nothing I haven't heard before and certainly nothing that bothers me.

Bobby, I've looked into every single report of yours that I dealt with. Just because something gets reported doesn't mean us mods will automatically agree with it and do what the reporter thinks ought to be done. Sometimes we think differently and choose to do nothing. I couldn't begin to count the amount of reports we've had against you that had merit to some degree or another that I ultimately decided to pass on because most situations weren't black and white. However, over the months you and your Blu-ray jihad been consistently at the center of more ugly disagreements and garnered more reports than any other regular in those forums. The community as a whole is frustrated and angry and since I work for not any one individual but the community as a whole I banned you.

You also some some gall to claim no mod ever supported you, especially me. I recall some pm's from you when you got ganged up on where I definitely took your side. Want me to post them to refresh your memory? I remember telling you to stay out of any disagreements and refrain from making any personal remarks and I'd put the hammer down on anyone that attacked you. Add that to your big picture my friend.




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582.4.2007 10:55
janrocks
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Guess what.. it was nothing to do with zippy..
As if we want to hear it all again.. why not go and join some ps3 site and leave us in peace.. we know these consoles are overpriced and unreliable (except the wii.. that's just over-everything except powered:lol:)

Sorry I don't know off hand Zippy. Sandwich1 is the guy to ask about the 360 and DRM. You can find a link to his profile in my shoutbox. let him know I sent ya..

592.4.2007 10:59
Bobbyback
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Quote:
You also some some gall to claim no mod ever supported you, especially me. I recall some pm's from you when you got ganged up on where I definitely took your side. Want me to post them to refresh your memory? I remember telling you to stay out of any disagreements and refrain from making any personal remarks and I'd put the hammer down on anyone that attacked you. Add that to your big picture my friend.
That Bull & you know it because the person who respond to that PM said you was out of town.....If i had my BobbyBlu profile i would post it so people can see the truth....Oh Janrocks stfu you damm cry baby no one talking to you...........
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602.4.2007 11:03
Bobbyback
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Quote:
Bobby, I've looked into every single report of yours that I dealt with. Just because something gets reported doesn't mean us mods will automatically agree with it and do what the reporter thinks ought to be done.

So all the personal attacks i got don't add into that either i guess...

612.4.2007 11:04

Quote:
[quote]Bobbyback
I got a weeks ban for flaming/trolling it happens to us all now and then,and more so to thos that think they are always right.
I know I am wrong abotu allot of things but I will stink up a room with my opinion maker when I just have to let it out
Please all the Flaming you & your buddy HughJar did to people...That Bullshit.That the reason most people in the PS3 forum didn't post anything on the news post because it alright to flame Sony but if some one see the other way Mods turn there heads.

HughJars calling me a Shill for months not one mod did a dam thing.7 that little Bastard PlutoNash also.[/quote]
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Prehaps he words his better prehaps he flames in retort not frist strike,a good bit of what BB says rings true however the fanboyish delivery of it leave allot to be desired,I am a idiot I admit that I tend to see things on a broad plane sometime I am blinded by my own personal issues with what I poo about but I try and not turn the blinders on all the time and let the way of the "fanboy" guide me.
before the PS3 launch I liked the PS3 and thought it would do well,but the reality of it has made me very cautious and hard on sony,I gave MS a break for the past couple of months because the line up has made the hardware issues "worth while" if MS has not gone out of their way to put the 65nm CPU into the elite then they are playing games with gamers and I dislike it as much as Sonys like games they play.
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622.4.2007 11:06
Bobbyback
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Number 6 ring a bell Nephilim.6.6 No foul language, insults, personal attacks or otherwise rude messages.

I am done with this Bull i do have respect for this site & DRD so i will not post anymore so banned this profile also.Janrocks you have no creditability you complain about DRM but you hack console & give out codes....LOL need i say more.

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632.4.2007 11:13
janrocks
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Oh grow up and F*CK OFF you whining fanboy!!

Get a life go and annoy the ps3 forums with your constant whining on..

Life sucks.. GET A F*CKING HELMET!! (thanks D) Ohh.. that's a point, you need to get your head out of your ass before you can deploy a helmet..

And one other thing social outcast.. *reported* AGAIN! hehehehehe


I can edit posts too... it seems after reading Neph's earlier post the only people you respect are yourself (not much) and $ony who clearly pay for your internet... Don't leave... please carry on so we can have some more fun proving what an intellectual amoeba you are.

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642.4.2007 11:15
Bobbyback
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Janrocks you have no creditability you complain about DRM but you hack console & give out codes....LOL need i say more.You always not far from some mod nuts...

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652.4.2007 11:23
janrocks
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I write software too.. so what? If I could crack DRM I would, and I would post it everywhere for people to use. You crow on about $ony.. one of the worst DRM merchants going.. It seems to be YOU who lack any kind of credibility.

At least I CONTRIBUTE something worthwhile to the community instead of being a walking advert for a s*itty ripoff business.

ps.. Neph is sexy.. I'm sure he would be very pleased to have me in the vicinity of his trousers..

OK OK.. no accounting for taste i know.. :lol:

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662.4.2007 11:35

Originally posted by janrocks:
I write software too.. so what? If I could crack DRM I would, and I would post it everywhere for people to use. You crow on about $ony.. one of the worst DRM merchants going.. It seems to be YOU who lack any kind of credibility.

At least I CONTRIBUTE something worthwhile to the community instead of being a walking advert for a s*itty ripoff business.

ps.. Neph is sexy.. I'm sure he would be very pleased to have me in the vicinity of his trousers..

OK OK.. no accounting for taste i know.. :lol:

*Blond voice kicks in*
but why would you want to wash his pants......

the voices ><



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672.4.2007 11:37

Originally posted by Bobbyback:
Janrocks you have no creditability you complain about DRM but you hack console & give out codes....LOL need i say more.You always not far from some mod nuts...
BTW you gotta give this place some credit it dose not troll to ban users and can give them a 2nd chance,I suggest trying to stay on topic and dont counter flames its not worth it ><

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682.4.2007 11:41

Bobby won't accept things the way they are so I'm gonna close this before Jan makes me hyperventilate. :)

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692.4.2007 11:47

down boy & i was going tp say lightning struck but somebody closed the thread. i wonder who??!!

702.4.2007 11:50

Lol, Jan was makin' me blush!




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