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Konami: PS3 price cut is not enough

Written by James Delahunty (Google+) @ 10 Jul 2007 3:36 User comments (57)

Konami: PS3 price cut is not enough Well known game developer, Konami, has come along to put a downer on Sony's recently announced $100 price cut for the PlayStation 3 (PS3) console. Kazumi Kitaue, head of Konami's North American and European operations, is not convinced that the damage done by the high price tag of the PS3 will be reversed that easily and hinted that the highly anticipated title, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, will be released on alternative platforms.
"I wonder if Sony can win back user support by the price cut of just $100," said Kitaue. "I don't expect a substantial impact... With $500, you can buy a personal computer." Metal Gear Solid 4 is currently a PS3 exclusive, with the game brand itself debuting on the PlayStation platform. It has been rumored for many weeks now that a version of the game will be released for the Xbox 360 console too.

"Since Metal Gear was born on the PlayStation, we would like to keep it a PlayStation game. But we might have to take some steps," Kitaue said.

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110.7.2007 3:42

Sorry Mr.Kazumi Kitaue you don't have the final say into weather the game is going muti-platform Hideo Kojima does & he has said that this Metal Gear was not going to be able to fit on the 360 console.

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210.7.2007 3:50
whytelyou
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Originally posted by NexGen76:
Sorry Mr.Kazumi Kitaue you don't have the final say into weather the game is going muti-platform Hideo Kojima does & he has said that this Metal Gear was not going to be able to fit on the 360 console.
Why won't it "fit"?

310.7.2007 3:52

Quote:
Originally posted by NexGen76:
Sorry Mr.Kazumi Kitaue you don't have the final say into weather the game is going muti-platform Hideo Kojima does & he has said that this Metal Gear was not going to be able to fit on the 360 console.
Why won't it "fit"?
Hideo Kojima was saying that the game was going to be over 50 gig's or something like that but he did say it was going to be huge.360 has DVD-9 but even if they do compress games they cant compress something that damm big on to a DVD-9.
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410.7.2007 4:11

For Konami to say this is very worrying if other developers feel
the same and some may re-evaluate their stance on remaining exclusive on Sony's platform.
Spouting Blu-ray as the only reason the 360 isn't getting MGS4
is wishful thinking at best.

510.7.2007 4:15

Think thats all business talk to get more people panties in a bunch. When that is a official saying from all the right parties then I will be worried.

610.7.2007 4:38
whytelyou
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Quote:
[quote]
Originally posted by NexGen76:
Sorry Mr.Kazumi Kitaue you don't have the final say into weather the game is going muti-platform Hideo Kojima does & he has said that this Metal Gear was not going to be able to fit on the 360 console.
Why won't it "fit"?
Hideo Kojima was saying that the game was going to be over 50 gig's or something like that but he did say it was going to be huge.360 has DVD-9 but even if they do compress games they cant compress something that damm big on to a DVD-9.[/quote]Lol ok so they can't put it on a few dvds?? If it's going to be that huge? lol

710.7.2007 4:42

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Hideo Kojima was saying that the game was going to be over 50 gig's or something like that but he did say it was going to be huge.360
50 gigs?! somethings not right, first off no game in the world is like that, even if its like 100% photo realistic and am sure all the ps3 games that are out now don't go anywhere near that many gigs. Most of the games space is comprised of mostly graphical information but the graphics is nowhere near 50 gig quality the most I see it go up to is around 24 to 30 gigs unless the game itself is going to be over 150 hours long, you can put all the camera angles you want it wont be 50.
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810.7.2007 5:44

A while back I posted screen shot of the actual size of some ps3 games many were in 2-5 gigs range (DVD5) one was like 7, another could fit onto a CD and there was resistance. Seems like a scam to me

910.7.2007 6:00
fgamer
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The reason it's been stated that it may be over 50 gig's is because the audio. Konami won't really make all the money that they can make by making it just for the PS3...they need it to go multi-plat. Imagine how many more copies they'd sell if they opened their user base to 360's 11 million users, I mean the PS3 user base is only 3mil or so. Well, I know which way I'd swing if I was looking to make money. It'd be dumb for Kojima to keep it exclusive to the PS3.

1010.7.2007 6:01

The best way to scam consumers is to fill the Blu-ray
with tons of video footage to prove that 50 gig is needed.

Blu-Ray = Bloat-Ray

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1110.7.2007 6:16
BIGnewb
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you can say the same thing about an HD DVD?when you compare the two.blu-ray has more capacity.why would you make a dumb comment like that?just because you are a fanboy of xbox360 doesn't mean its the best.stop making ignorant comments.

1210.7.2007 6:18

Hmm... so Metal Gear will fill a Blu-ray disc or two? I wonder what the development costs are on something like that? Do you think if they sold 1 copy to everyone that currently owns the PS3 *sarcasm*, that they will make up their costs?

1310.7.2007 6:37

Originally posted by BIGnewb:
you can say the same thing about an HD DVD?when you compare the two.blu-ray has more capacity.why would you make a dumb comment like that?just because you are a fanboy of xbox360 doesn't mean its the best.stop making ignorant comments.
If I wanted a HD movie player I'd buy one,not some Trojan-Horse
that the PS3 obviously is because there is not one game in their
library that needs it.
I'm a fanboy of the 360 because it has better games not because it
can play some dumb HD movie that I don't need.If PS3 had superior
games that made it's price more attractive then I would of bought that system.You are a brand fanboy which is worse than
anything because you obviously close your eyes and plug your ears
when bad news is spouted against your chosen brand.
The 360 has a reliabliltiy problem that has now been covered by
a 3-year warranty and all that's left is the games and it's showing
it's superiority over the bloated and expensive PS3.

1410.7.2007 7:31

Since Metal Gear was born on the PlayStation, we would like to keep it a PlayStation game.

I thought metal gear was born on the NES.

1510.7.2007 7:47
armorthis
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Originally posted by diabolic:
Since Metal Gear was born on the PlayStation, we would like to keep it a PlayStation game.

I thought metal gear was born on the NES.
Metal Gear was, Metal Gear Solid did debut on the playstation.

And, nobody is plugging their ears, the fact of the matter is, the PS3 is better spec wise, and all it takes is a game like metal gear or Gran Turismo and the 360 is done. With all that BS M$ keeps doing, updating their console? a new core? that doesn't break down as much, they pretty much scammed everyone who bought the original 360, being loyal to a company is stupid, but Microsoft is full of sh$t.

Metal Gear WONT go multi-platform, it never has been, and it never will be.

1610.7.2007 7:47
armorthis
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Originally posted by diabolic:
Since Metal Gear was born on the PlayStation, we would like to keep it a PlayStation game.

I thought metal gear was born on the NES.
Metal Gear was, Metal Gear Solid did debut on the playstation.

And, nobody is plugging their ears, the fact of the matter is, the PS3 is better spec wise, and all it takes is a game like metal gear or Gran Turismo and the 360 is done. With all that BS M$ keeps doing, updating their console? a new core? that doesn't break down as much, they pretty much scammed everyone who bought the original 360, being loyal to a company is stupid, but Microsoft is full of sh$t.

Metal Gear WONT go multi-platform, it never has been, and it never will be.

1710.7.2007 7:57

Originally posted by diabolic:
Since Metal Gear was born on the PlayStation, we would like to keep it a PlayStation game.

I thought metal gear was born on the NES.
Nintendo forever <<<<< go baby go

MGS soon enough will be in xbox360 like Devil May Cry 4

when bill gates decided to buy CAPCOM to have DMC4 and RE5...very funny

and in last interview with him he said

"MGS going to be in Xbox360 by anyway"

is he going to buy Konami for MGS

1810.7.2007 7:59

The Metal Gear Solid series was repackaged for both Xbox and Gamecube, so to say it won't show up on any other consoles is just being brash. Metal Gear would sell some consoles, but I still don't think it will push as many as Grand Theft Auto, Madden and NCAA, or first party titles like Mario, Metroid, Zelda, or Halo. Honestly, Metal Gear seems to be the only thing the Playstation as on tap at this point. I don't think that Crash, Ratchet & Clank, or even Gran Turismo will get Sony the mileage they are expecting. Right now, everyone is lacking with quality titles, but when they start coming out of the gates this holiday season, I can't wait to see what we will be arguing about next!

1910.7.2007 8:59
Bigperm88
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Oh the fanboys come marching in.

Statements like this

"And, nobody is plugging their ears, the fact of the matter is, the PS3 is better spec wise, and all it takes is a game like metal gear or Gran Turismo and the 360 is done."

screams fanboy, when every game has looked better on the compeditors machine. You beleived Sonys hype train, and your now in denial. I used to be a huge Sony fanboy, but i saw the light. Also every independant analysis has given the 360 thereal wordl hardware edge. On paper, the PS3 is the second coming, in reality, its still has lower useable specs than the 360.

And Konami is in this to make money, MGS4 will be on 360, unless Sony pulls a huge turn around. And to think it "Will not fit on the 360" is absurd, and laughable. Right up until release, it will be rumored to be PS3 exclusive (Sony needs this advertising) and then in the final weeks, it will be multiplatform.

2010.7.2007 11:16

i recall there was Metal Gear 2 on Xbox and Metal Gear Twin snakes on Gamecube.

konami needs to get off there arrogant ass and make this game for 360 too. Metal Gear is a fantasic franchise. but its not a system seller.

2110.7.2007 14:20

WOW.... more PS3 bashing. Thats new. Can't wait for the next PS3 bashing thread. This is really getting old.

2210.7.2007 17:14

Originally posted by djeazyg:
WOW.... more PS3 bashing. Thats new. Can't wait for the next PS3 bashing thread. This is really getting old.
No ones bashing the Ps3...basically everyone thinks sonys a big F&^% up now and i used to buy everything SONY until the PS3 came out and they shoved blue-ray into it..i lost all respect over that..games do not need that much space..xbox360 dose fine with dvd at the moment..I know the Ps3 is powerful played it over my friends house but sony just went over there heads with it..and should have made bue-ray an option to add to the system like how 360 has HD-DVD add on(gives me a dam choice to have it or not)...thats my 2 cents say what you want im no fanboy..both systems are good but the company backing up PS3 is just not in my "likings" anymore...

2310.7.2007 17:25

Dam i'm having the hardest time deciding which system to buy. My head tells me the smarter choice is a 360. but i have this feeling that if ps3 turns around. But i know that if mgs4 is officialy going to be realeased for the 360 i will buy.

2410.7.2007 17:25

Quote:
Originally posted by djeazyg:
WOW.... more PS3 bashing. Thats new. Can't wait for the next PS3 bashing thread. This is really getting old.
No ones bashing the Ps3...basically everyone thinks sonys a big F&^% up now and i used to buy everything SONY until the PS3 came out and they shoved blue-ray into it..i lost all respect over that..games do not need that much space..xbox360 dose fine with dvd at the moment..I know the Ps3 is powerful played it over my friends house but sony just went over there heads with it..and should have made bue-ray an option to add to the system like how 360 has HD-DVD add on(gives me a dam choice to have it or not)...thats my 2 cents say what you want im no fanboy..both systems are good but the company backing up PS3 is just not in my "likings" anymore...
I guess you had a issue when they shoved a DVD played into the PS2 also...LMAO some of you people on this site is funny as hell.You guys didn't have a issue with the DVD player but now you got a issue with Blu-ray....Go figure.

2510.7.2007 18:17

Quote:
WOW.... more PS3 bashing. Thats new. Can't wait for the next PS3 bashing thread. This is really getting old.
No ones bashing the Ps3...basically everyone thinks sonys a big F&^% up now and i used to buy everything SONY until the PS3 came out and they shoved blue-ray into it..i lost all respect over that..games do not need that much space..xbox360 dose fine with dvd at the moment..I know the Ps3 is powerful played it over my friends house but sony just went over there heads with it..and should have made bue-ray an option to add to the system like how 360 has HD-DVD add on(gives me a dam choice to have it or not)...thats my 2 cents say what you want im no fanboy..both systems are good but the company backing up PS3 is just not in my "likings" anymore...

I guess you had a issue when they shoved a DVD played into the PS2 also...LMAO some of you people on this site is funny as hell.You guys didn't have a issue with the DVD player but now you got a issue with Blu-ray....Go figure.
You may have a little point, but DVD had no competition, no rivals, it was THE next format, bluray v hddvd is nowhere near over. There shouldnt have been an issue with PS2 adding a dvd player, but there is reason for people to dislike the fact that they are FORCED into a format they may or may not like.
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2610.7.2007 18:30

OoooOo I want to play this game!

2710.7.2007 18:42

Quote:
Originally posted by djeazyg:
WOW.... more PS3 bashing. Thats new. Can't wait for the next PS3 bashing thread. This is really getting old.
No ones bashing the Ps3...basically everyone thinks sonys a big F&^% up now

Not everyone. Speak for yourself.

As for Blue Ray...... If it fails it will be exclusive to the PS3. Big Deal!! Nobody is forceing you to except it. The gun you think is at your head is just an illusion. Blue Ray ain't doing shit for gaming right now but you have no idea what the future holds.

On Topic....
Do a little research people. In the long run you will be paying more for your 360 than you would will pay for a PS3 even after MS matches the price drop.

Before you start to flame....I also own both a 360 and a PS3 and I like them both just fine.
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2810.7.2007 19:49

Originally posted by DVDBack23:
You may have a little point, but DVD had no competition, no rivals, it was THE next format, bluray v hddvd is nowhere near over. There shouldnt have been an issue with PS2 adding a dvd player, but there is reason for people to dislike the fact that they are FORCED into a format they may or may not like.
Where was these people when Sony clearly said that the makeup of PS3 was going to be Blu-ray 3 years ago.Something is forced went you don't have a choice but if people feel like that then buy a 360.Sony console has alway been a muti-media center Sony haven't change anything from there past.People didn't get there Boxer in a Bunch until they found out there was a Format war going on.Which as of Now Blu-ray is on top
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2910.7.2007 19:59

i did feel like that and i did buy an xbox360...and I know the playstation3 is a great system but really was there a need for blue-ray to put in it serouisly think about it..so basically they said you want PS3 you need to buy this blue-ray drive with it..which i did not like...if i wanted a blue-ray player i would have went out and bought a stanalone one at my choice..

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3010.7.2007 20:36

Originally posted by Thoatih12:
i did feel like that and i did buy an xbox360...and I know the playstation3 is a great system but really was there a need for blue-ray to put in it serouisly think about it..so basically they said you want PS3 you need to buy this blue-ray drive with it..which i did not like...if i wanted a blue-ray player i would have went out and bought a stanalone one at my choice..
Since Launch i haven't had one issue with Sony adding Blu-ray only the lack of titles which is going to happen on any New system & price which Sony has cut.I have yet to talk to any PS3 owner that has had a issue with Blu-ray not one only the people standing outside looking in.

3110.7.2007 20:52

umm nvm my whole point went right over your head.



3210.7.2007 21:43

Originally posted by Thoatih12:
i did feel like that and i did buy an xbox360...and I know the playstation3 is a great system but really was there a need for blue-ray to put in it serouisly think about it..so basically they said you want PS3 you need to buy this blue-ray drive with it..which i did not like...if i wanted a blue-ray player i would have went out and bought a stanalone one at my choice..

So Sony didn't go for some bare bones cheap console that does just barley what was was required, the fact is Sony is expected to push the limits if they didn't have the blue ray all they'd have was a souped up ps2 with the psp's xmb. When you make a new generation system a new disk format is almost required. HD-DVD was a microsoft thing so they said fine we'll go to a new level with a disk that near doubles yours. And that's just what i like about Sony they may shoot themselves in the foot but they're not gonna let themselves be outdone or scramble to compensate when their system is already out.

Anyway back to the ACTUAL subject. I'm really getting frustrated at Kojima, it almost looks like they're trying to find a way to jump ship and if mgs4 comes out for the 360 I don't think I'd buy it for the PS3, and I love MGS but I refuse to support them if they do something despicable like that its like releasing Halo for the PS3. Have they even stopped to think before they complained about a HUNDREAD dollar price drop, that and have they not even thought that Sony more than likely will drop the price even further around christmas and then that will be HUGE for the PS3. Give it time and more games and it will be dominate, its no wounder they aren't selling well when these Devs keep kicking the PS3 while its down.

3310.7.2007 22:04

Quote:
Anyway back to the ACTUAL subject. I'm really getting frustrated at Kojima, it almost looks like they're trying to find a way to jump ship and if mgs4 comes out for the 360 I don't think I'd buy it for the PS3, and I love MGS but I refuse to support them if they do something despicable like that its like releasing Halo for the PS3. Have they even stopped to think before they complained about a HUNDREAD dollar price drop, that and have they not even thought that Sony more than likely will drop the price even further around christmas and then that will be HUGE for the PS3. Give it time and more games and it will be dominate, its no wounder they aren't selling well when these Devs keep kicking the PS3 while its down.

Yeah thats true metal gear solid has always been sony would be kinda weird multiplatform..but gotta put yourself in there spot PS3 at the moment has 4 million aboutSS sold and xbox360 about 10/11 million..if they release on both think of how much more $$$$$ they could get..its all about $$$ my friend...released on both they have a chance to sell 14 million copies (prolly not possible) but they have a bigger crowd to sell to instead of the 4 mill with the PS3...they'd make more money..

3410.7.2007 22:05

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You may have a little point, but DVD had no competition, no rivals, it was THE next format, bluray v hddvd is nowhere near over. There shouldnt have been an issue with PS2 adding a dvd player, but there is reason for people to dislike the fact that they are FORCED into a format they may or may not like.
SORRY ABOUT DOUBLE POST= but thank god someone gets what im saying!!

3510.7.2007 22:40

Quote:
[quote]Anyway back to the ACTUAL subject. I'm really getting frustrated at Kojima, it almost looks like they're trying to find a way to jump ship and if mgs4 comes out for the 360 I don't think I'd buy it for the PS3, and I love MGS but I refuse to support them if they do something despicable like that its like releasing Halo for the PS3. Have they even stopped to think before they complained about a HUNDREAD dollar price drop, that and have they not even thought that Sony more than likely will drop the price even further around christmas and then that will be HUGE for the PS3. Give it time and more games and it will be dominate, its no wounder they aren't selling well when these Devs keep kicking the PS3 while its down.

Yeah thats true metal gear solid has always been sony would be kinda weird multiplatform..but gotta put yourself in there spot PS3 at the moment has 4 million aboutSS sold and xbox360 about 10/11 million..if they release on both think of how much more $$$$$ they could get..its all about $$$ my friend...released on both they have a chance to sell 14 million copies (prolly not possible) but they have a bigger crowd to sell to instead of the 4 mill with the PS3...they'd make more money..[/quote]
When you factor in the fact that the 360 has been out twice as long as the PS3 and the fact that it was released before the PS3 its no surprise that the 360 has a great deal more sales, the wii of course being the exception its kinda the neutral, and cheap alternetive essentially in the console war. I know the Devs are all about the money but when you think about it they're gonna be ticking off a HUGE amount of loyal customers they will loose a lot of money not just on MGS4 but all their games as a result.

3611.7.2007 1:18

Originally posted by Thoatih12:
and I know the playstation3 is a great system but really was there a need for blue-ray to put in it serouisly think about it..
This is what im trying to tell you guys here is a quote from Guerilla about KillZone 2 which had a private viewing last night @ E3.

Quote:
The demo we lasted was the extent of an entire level and lasted over 15 minutes in length by our count, but remember that it was played by a Guerilla rep and that it'll take a newcomer a good bit longer to get through. Though there were a few pauses for loading at certain spots, Guerilla says that it'll have its streaming tech implemented by ship time and that you won't see any loads mid-level. When you see just how much stuff is here, you'll understand why this may not be an easy task.

If you would like a number to go with that, try 2GB. That's how big the single level was on disc, to which the Guerilla rep noted that the game's level of detail would not have been possible without Blu-ray.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/803/803129p3.html

Now do you think Blu-ray wasn't needed i know people look at it now as PS3 doesn't need Blu-ray but the future of this console going to show you why.
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3711.7.2007 2:31
hughjars
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Blu-ray in the PS3 was done for Blu-ray, not the PS3s benefit.

Interesting too how the 80gb version stays at $600 (but funnily enough I don't see anyone complaining about $100 for 20gbs of HDD this time out).

As for a $499 price-ticket on the regular version?
Konami are right, too little too late.

Watch out for the brief spurt of activity & then watch the sales numbers dive back down off of a cliff.

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3811.7.2007 3:58

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Hmm... so Metal Gear will fill a Blu-ray disc or two? I wonder what the development costs are on something like that? Do you think if they sold 1 copy to everyone that currently owns the PS3 *sarcasm*, that they will make up their costs?
LOL nothing is even goign to be anywhere near filling a BR disc yet mate. FF12 for ps2 was less then 3GB! and look at how muhc gameplay is in that!

Personally i think Sony blew it with the whole BR in it! Cutting the price like that is like trowing a cup of water onto a fire and hoping the fire carms down. It wont, they've screwed it up. Games exclusive to PS3 can't make enough money from sales if they are ps3 exclusive, unless they cost a lot more, so they have to go multi plat, meanign ppl again wont buy ps3 and the cycle continues.

3911.7.2007 5:38
BIGnewb
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man stop complaining people enough is enough.i wish there were some threads about the 360 so we could bash it too.thats all you guys do on this site because there's rarely any news on the 360 and you guys are so bored you'd rather start shit here.shut up and stay in your 360 forums.

4011.7.2007 8:12

Originally posted by BIGnewb:
man stop complaining people enough is enough.i wish there were some threads about the 360 so we could bash it too.thats all you guys do on this site because there's rarely any news on the 360 and you guys are so bored you'd rather start shit here.shut up and stay in your 360 forums.
Hey buddy i got news for you..go look at the news on the front page of this site..there are plenty of articles about the xbox360..but like i said blue-ray being forced into the console made me think sony just wanted blue-ray sales from it not gaming..prolly what many people think..

example= Microsoft: Xbox 360 price drop unnecessary for now
Microsoft Corp. has revealed that it has no plans to respond to Sony's PlayStation 3 (PS3) price cut with cuts for its Xbox 360 console. Ever since Sony dropped $100 from the price of the 60GB ...

Category: News | 11 Jul 2007 8:29 AM | 11 comments


example 2= Xbox Live gets content from Disney
Microsoft's video download service for the Xbox 360 console got a significant boost on Wednesday with the addition of hit titles from Disney. The titles added include the animated hit "Aladdin" ...

Category: News | 11 Jul 2007 8:08 AM


example 3= Xbox 360 getting 65nm "Falcon" chips this fall
Dean Takahashi, the man who first confirmed the Xbox 360 IPTV as well as the Xbox 360 Elite has now confirmed that starting in the fall, 360's will come equipped with 65nm microprocessors and ...

Category: News | 9 Jul 2007 8:11 PM | 34 comments


THESE ARE ALL ON THE FRONT PAGE! not to sound like a dick head but open your eyes your a senior member you should have seen these articles befor posting your comment..and i never said i hated the PS3 but with the blue-ray in it ill pass on it now and buy the xbox360...and to tell the truth i really enjoy my xbox360 right now..used to always buy playstations i had 1 and 2 thats all i bought nothing more but i drew the line here...
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4112.7.2007 3:28

The PS3 isn't better than the 360 spec wise.
It's memory and GPU is not a match to the 360' setup.
Only it's CELL chip has any potential to surpass the 360's
triple core in terms of physics computation but because it's
a bastard to code, it loses this technical advantage.
In terms of throughput from a developer,the 360 is clearly the
winner here as it's quicker to code the game on that system
to an acceptable level and the PS3 port always has to play
catch up to match it.The proof is out there when you compare
most multi-platform games,the 360 usualy has better fps,less fog/more draw distance and much better online support.
GTAIV will be a great litmus test for both systems and my guess
is,Blu-Ray and CELL won't make a damn difference and with DLC
to be available on the 360,I'd buy the cheaper system to play it on...k...thanx...

4212.7.2007 5:38

read em and weep you 360 fanboys:

[12:33] Tretton comes back to introduce "one last third-party platform," which he is "happy to say is only on PlayStation 3."

[12:34] Enter Hideo Kojima to introduce Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. He's nearly blinded by flashbulbs.

straight from gamespot biotches! it is exclusive. eclusive exclusive it is still exclusive!


Lower your flags and march straight back to England, stopping at every home to beg forgiveness for a hundred years of theft, rape, and murder. Do this and your men shall live. Do it not, and every one of you will die today.

Aye, fight and you may die, run, and you'll live... at least a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR FREEDOM!
- William Wallace

4312.7.2007 7:13

So MGS4 is exclusive...damn I don't think I can cope knowing that
all thats on offer is COD4,Halo3,Alan Wake,Bio Shock,Mass Effect,GTAIV,HalfLife2#,Blue Dragon,Ace-Combat 6,PGR4,Quake Wars,etc,etc,etc....
How will I ever cope!

4412.7.2007 10:48

therapy i guess...

realizing that you made the wrong desicion picking a console is to hard to cope with. Plus halo is overated, how is any different from any other shooter? But you see i would list all the exclusives for ps3 but frankly i don't have the time on my hands and there are to many to list.

have fun charging/replacing batteries every 6 hours your controller!
and beware of the red rings of death
ps3 has 1% faliure rate while you xbox 360 have 30%

good luck with therapy though

if you think about it the money you spend on an xbox 360 plus the therapy is way more than the price of the ps3.


Lower your flags and march straight back to England, stopping at every home to beg forgiveness for a hundred years of theft, rape, and murder. Do this and your men shall live. Do it not, and every one of you will die today.

Aye, fight and you may die, run, and you'll live... at least a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR FREEDOM!
- William Wallace

4512.7.2007 12:16
dorkydork
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my buddy has a hd tv and hd is the shit! its not over but hd-dvd was dropped by blockbuster. so, eat that hddvd lovers.

4612.7.2007 13:30

Metal Gear was Born On The Nintendo 8-bit system,for i have 3 of the games still in my collection,the 2nd wasn't not a hideo kojimi game,but all was developed by Konami.

All games should be developed for all systems, Period,some people hate the ps2 & ps3 systems,and some hate the xbox,so the consumer is the bottem line,with out us,there is no PS3, Xbox,or Gamecube.

4712.7.2007 18:07

Originally posted by zegame:
Plus halo is overated, how is any different from any other shooter?
It's not, mainly because the genre has mimicked it ever since the first Halo, most FPS's now implement the 2 weapon system and rechargeable shields/health. I'm sure in a few years we'll start seeing the game replay feature show up as well. Not that I'm a big fan of Halo or anything, but to say it's just like any other shooter is a huge understatement, like saying Mario is just another platformer or MGS is just another stealth game.

Also, I wouldn't write off MGS on the 360 until at least a year after it's PS3 launch, Konami will probably honor a timed exclusive deal but they'd be leaving a lot of money on the table keeping it exclusive forever, unless Sony is giving them bags of cash, which supposedly they don't do.

4812.7.2007 19:55

Originally posted by vperkins:
Metal Gear was Born On The Nintendo 8-bit system,for i have 3 of the games still in my collection,the 2nd wasn't not a hideo kojimi game,but all was developed by Konami.

All games should be developed for all systems, Period,some people hate the ps2 & ps3 systems,and some hate the xbox,so the consumer is the bottem line,with out us,there is no PS3, Xbox,or Gamecube.
Incorrect, MG was born on the MSX system. Nitendo picked it up and did a piss poor job to boot. I agree with the multi-platform concept, though.

4913.7.2007 2:04

Originally posted by zegame:
realizing that you made the wrong desicion picking a console is to hard to cope with. Plus halo is overated, how is any different from any other shooter?
have fun charging/replacing batteries every 6 hours your controller!
and beware of the red rings of death
ps3 has 1% faliure rate while you xbox 360 have 30%

good luck with therapy though
What you don't realize is that there is no wrong or right decision.
I can change my mind,buy another console,have 3 consoles and a PC
to play games on if I choose but I won't because I don't have to.
I'm happy with my purchase as I havn't had the Red Rings since December 05 launch and I'm playing a load of games I enjoy with friends on and offline.The 360 was definitely the right choice for
me and a load of friends that I know personaly.
As for having fun changing batteries,it sounds like you're the one
who can't cope with trivial BS.Does the PS3 charge itself wirelessly now or what?!?
The PS3 is losing exclusives left right and centre but it doesn't matter because the PS3 doesn't need games to sell,just dumb brand
loyalty as you know.
The PS3's Hype train has crashed and all I can see is casualties.
Losing sales momentum,losing exclusive games,losing face because of underwhelming developer support,losing faith because it's system doesn't deliver what the executives said it would 12 months ago.
All I can see is damage control from a company that's head is too BIG for it's shoulders to stand on.It's lost site of what the game is all about because of arrogance and dismissing the competition.
You have no clue what you've bought into,but I'll tell you this,
you were sold a dream that doesn't deliver.

5014.7.2007 12:49
gmontalc
Inactive

SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT...sucks. at E3 07 expo, at least Microsoft played the Game Demos LIVE!, and Sony played Video Trailers, crap!- I'm dissapointed with the PS3 and PSP, I feel ripp-off. My PS3 is already collecting dust. and guess what? I'm back on my Xbox. can you believe that SĥĨŤ!

5116.7.2007 3:10

Originally posted by sado0og:
Originally posted by diabolic:
Since Metal Gear was born on the PlayStation, we would like to keep it a PlayStation game.

I thought metal gear was born on the NES.
Nintendo forever <<<<< go baby go

MGS soon enough will be in xbox360 like Devil May Cry 4

when bill gates decided to buy CAPCOM to have DMC4 and RE5...very funny

and in last interview with him he said

"MGS going to be in Xbox360 by anyway"

is he going to buy Konami for MGS

Its obvious your just a bunch of fan/slave boys to M.S use really dont even uderstand the point of blue ray,It uses so much space because its also H.D DATA thats on the disks which instantly makes it 4 times bigger if its running 1080p.I cant even be a*sed because not one of you has made a valid comment,And buddy you just really aint got a F,ing clue M.G.S will never make it on to the 360 so dont hold out for it Just like Snake Eater,That could have fitted and use still didnt get it so dream on m8.If the Ps3 is so shizt why do all use sound so f*c*ing worried about it.Because lets face it Sony has the backing of the major movie houses for BD,And give it to after Xmas and we'll see who's got the best games on there console,Games that the X-box just wont be able to run,Im sure they will try but the PS3 will always have the superior version of every game.

P.S I think the 360 is a classy console but im so sick of listeing to idiots that dont even understand the capabilites of the PS3 and the TRUTH be told the 360 is looking old already i feel we have seen the best the 360 has to offer this is from experience not just what the the last bloke said.And as for the PS3 we aint seen nothing yet,I do still play my 360 a lot but im not in a fu*king M.S bubble,Im well enjoying Oblivion, Motostorm, R-Fall Of Man F.E.A.R, on the PS3 and i know as the bigger games release ie,Assasins Creed, M.G.S, Little Big Planet, D.M.C, Lair, Warhawk, etc Ill move to playing my PS3 Full-Time And im really looking forward to the launch of HOME.Ok ill shut up now ive said my bit,Ill leave ya with this HD-DVD Were is its support its got no one worth mentioning,And Blockbuster the biggest film/game rental shop in the world is only gonna be stocking BLU RAY DISK,Wonder why???? mmmmmm mmm :))

Hacker For Life,PSP 3.40 0E-A.Big up to the Dark one, DAX,Team C+D,NOOBZ without all use guys the rollercoaster may not even be running,Massive Respect

5216.7.2007 7:06

BR is not needed for gaming the industry is stuck in a DVD9 mindset,in 3 years devs might start regularly going above 16 GB of real data until then BR is hurting the system,and sony should have known any system above 500 would not sale well to start with, not taking losses head first to rebuild the brand a bit is costing them time and money and games.

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djeazyg
not really I never plan to pay for live and MS is now implementing free shipping and free repairs and refunds to 360 owners.

5317.7.2007 0:08

For this device to be productive in market place it needs to be $400 or less. Thats Aussie Dollars.

5417.7.2007 4:51

Originally posted by borhan9:
For this device to be productive in market place it needs to be $400 or less. Thats Aussie Dollars.
if its 400US its 470 AUS(sorry if I am off) and 400Euro,dont you love their pricing schemes?

5517.7.2007 5:28

Quote:
Originally posted by borhan9:
For this device to be productive in market place it needs to be $400 or less. Thats Aussie Dollars.
if its 400US its 470 AUS(sorry if I am off) and 400Euro,dont you love their pricing schemes?
Either way its all crap to me :)

5617.7.2007 6:10

Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by borhan9:
For this device to be productive in market place it needs to be $400 or less. Thats Aussie Dollars.
if its 400US its 470 AUS(sorry if I am off) and 400Euro,dont you love their pricing schemes?
Either way its all crap to me :)
ya pretty much :P

5717.7.2007 7:14
dorkydork
Inactive

It may be a marketing trick (everything is now a days) but Sony says the price drop is temporary until the 60gb model is sold out. a few other game companies have also said the ps3 is too expensive. if i was those companies i would be pissed.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/804/804902p1.html

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