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Five would-be cammers arrested attempting to record Transformers

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 11 Jul 2007 15:28 User comments (55)

Five would-be cammers arrested attempting to record Transformers The MPAA and the National Association of Theatre Owners (NATO) announced that over the July 4th weekend, five would-be cammers were arrested after they tried to illegally record the blockbuster hit Transformers.
“These arrests serve as a reminder to potential movie thieves that whether you use a camcorder or a cell phone, stealing movies off the silver screen is a crime and you will be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,” said Dan Glickman, Chairman of the MPAA.

“Once again, theatre employees and theatre patrons have worked together to protect the art form they love, by intercepting movie thieves in the act of their crime. Thieves beware -- if you attempt to steal movies off the screen, we will find you and we will have you arrested.”
said John Fithian, President and CEO of NATO.

The first arrest was made in New York City and the suspect is the first to be charged under new laws that were passed in May by Mayor Michael Bloomberg. He faces up to six months in jail and a $5000 USD fine.

The second defendant was arrested in El Centro, California when the projectionist saw her trying to record using a Nokia video phone. She faces up to one year in jail and $2500 USD in fines.

The other three were arrested respectively in Illinois, Georgia and Orlando. The suspect in Georgia was also carrying an ounce of marijuana but only faces charges for the camming because apparently in Georgia, carrying illegal drugs is better than illegally recording a film.

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111.7.2007 15:59

The Georgia man sure had his priorities in order, watch the movie then get high. The public just needs to know that cinema employees are given bonuses for catching cam thieves.

211.7.2007 16:02

Originally posted by sssharp:
The Georgia man sure had his priorities in order, watch the movie then get high. The public just needs to know that cinema employees are given bonuses for catching cam thieves.
youve got that right ^^^

the MPAA gives $500 USD bonuses if the employees catch theives and it leads to an arrest.

311.7.2007 16:07

i wouldnt sell my soul for $500. If it were like 5,000 that would be different :P

411.7.2007 16:08

This is real funny. The MPAA has been saying for some time now that we here in Canada are responsible for 50% of pirated movies.

Hmmmm. Tell me again where these people were caught?!? Yea I know its only one incident. But makes you say look in your own backyard before you start pointing the finger at others.

511.7.2007 16:11

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Originally posted by sssharp:
The Georgia man sure had his priorities in order, watch the movie then get high. The public just needs to know that cinema employees are given bonuses for catching cam thieves.
youve got that right ^^^

the MPAA gives $500 USD bonuses if the employees catch theives and it leads to an arrest.
Hell yeah, a $500 bonus is a lot when you're only making $6/hr too.

611.7.2007 17:45

kinda pointless really,the movie is selling well and its not half bad for what it is so zomg there are going to be some free viewings its not going to matter OTT prices for condiments and tickets are doing far far more damage.....

711.7.2007 17:57

How can it be possible to record a whole movie with a cell phone??

811.7.2007 17:59

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The suspect in Georgia was also carrying an ounce of marijuana but only faces charges for the camming because apparently in Georgia, carrying illegal drugs is better than illegally recording a film.
lawmakers need to get thier priorities strait.video taping movies is not as bad as illegal drugs. and also up to a year in jail and a $2500 fine for using a cell phone to record a movie. the person would have only been able to get about 20 seconds of film. this is just retarded.

911.7.2007 18:18

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[quote]The suspect in Georgia was also carrying an ounce of marijuana but only faces charges for the camming because apparently in Georgia, carrying illegal drugs is better than illegally recording a film.
lawmakers need to get thier priorities strait.video taping movies is not as bad as illegal drugs. and also up to a year in jail and a $2500 fine for using a cell phone to record a movie. the person would have only been able to get about 20 seconds of film. this is just retarded.[/quote]
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pot should be legal anyway :P

1011.7.2007 18:47

five arrested?... or 50 or 500, it doesn´t matter... it takes just ONE to make the movie available on the internet...

1111.7.2007 18:58

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The other three were arrested respectively in Illinois, Georgia and Orlando. The suspect in Georgia was also carrying an ounce of marijuana but only faces charges for the camming because apparently in Georgia, carrying illegal drugs is better than illegally recording a film.
holy shit LMAO!!! yo we know where to go when we wanna get our marijuana

GEORGIA BABY HERE I COME!

1211.7.2007 19:04

people... be afraid... be very afraid... with this new camcorder law comes in the new law, brining in outside food into theaters.. would-be law breakers are now sentenced up to 4 years in prison because someone thought it'd be fun to bring in a few pounds of potato chips, 3 bottles of pepsi, and 2 bags of popcorn...

oh shit, I just gave them new ideas... =P

1311.7.2007 19:05

this new law comes into action when the MPAA gets bored of sueing people that attempts to steal movies and have nothing eles to complain about...

1411.7.2007 19:06

Yeah really, this is one movie that I doubt they can blame piracy on for sales. When it comes down to it, it's not in the same league as Ghost Rider, which was just a pile of crap. Besides, if a guy's head is obstructing my view, I would rather pay $8 or more for a ticket to tell him to sit the hell down!

1511.7.2007 19:07

[quote] lawmakers need to get thier priorities strait.video taping movies is not as bad as illegal drugs. and also up to a year in jail and a $2500 fine for using a cell phone to record a movie. the person would have only been able to get about 20 seconds of film. this is just retarded. [/quote

bro you don't understand.. even if you record like 3 seconds of jackass 2 on theater of one of them farting is enough to land you in jail for about six months and give you 2500 fines nowadays... its called, making thy money.

1611.7.2007 19:10

Pretty soon they wont need to film in the theatres. They have machines that digitize each frame by scanning it. A little piece on the camera that scans it directly to a computer in real time. Much better quality than a guy chomping on popcorn in a movie. There will always be a way around everything

no problems only solutions

1711.7.2007 19:14

Hey its a good movie but lets be honest a cell phone I would just wait for the dvd. I would rather watch the movie relaxing at home.. The theaters are not cheap in cali and the popcorn is pre-popped anyway...

1811.7.2007 19:18

Originally posted by devance:
Hey its a good movie but lets be honest a cell phone I would just wait for the dvd. I would rather watch the movie relaxing at home.. The theaters are not cheap in cali and the popcorn is pre-popped anyway...
the trouble is if not worth the 2$ rental then what? I previewed it via cam liek I always do and out of Ghost rider with the metrosexual vampire demons and Emo spider 3 this was pretty good definably worth a rent even a buy and I have not bought a DVD since hell boy!

1911.7.2007 19:34

I understand that NYC prosecutors could only ask for jail sentence + fines but how come in all the other cases the MPAA didn't ask for death penalty ?

2011.7.2007 20:31

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Hey its a good movie but lets be honest a cell phone I would just wait for the dvd. I would rather watch the movie relaxing at home.. The theaters are not cheap in cali and the popcorn is pre-popped anyway...

the trouble is if not worth the 2$ rental then what? I previewed it via cam liek I always do and out of Ghost rider with the metrosexual vampire demons and Emo spider 3 this was pretty good definably worth a rent even a buy and I have not bought a DVD since hell boy!
amen man, ive purchased maybe 4 DVDs all year, but definetely getting this and 300..if they continue to make good movies, people will buy it plain and simple.

2112.7.2007 3:04

Originally posted by SProdigy:
... Besides, if a guy's head is obstructing my view, I would rather pay $8 or more for a ticket to tell him to sit the hell down!
The way that we are told dont buy a pirated movie because there'll be someones head in the way is ridiculous.

If it happened to the guy trying to make a perfect copy, what are the chances i will be able to watch it at the cinema without some muppet talking or laughing, or bobbing their head into my view, chomping on popcorn.

I agree with anyone who says wait till its out on dvd.

The film is not going to be any worse if i wait a few months.

In fact it will probably come with extras...

...and then more extras a few months later

2212.7.2007 3:07

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Originally posted by SProdigy:
... Besides, if a guy's head is obstructing my view, I would rather pay $8 or more for a ticket to tell him to sit the hell down!
The way that we are told dont buy a pirated movie because there'll be someones head in the way is ridiculous.

If it happened to the guy trying to make a perfect copy, what are the chances i will be able to watch it at the cinema without some muppet talking or laughing, or bobbing their head into my view, chomping on popcorn.

I agree with anyone who says wait till its out on dvd.

The film is not going to be any worse if i wait a few months.

In fact it will probably come with extras...

...and then more extras a few months later

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MMmmm I use cam jobs to preview stuff I might think I like,so far 1 maybe 2 out of 6 are worth spending any money on.

2312.7.2007 3:24

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Originally posted by SProdigy:

MMmmm I use cam jobs to preview stuff I might think I like,so far 1 maybe 2 out of 6 are worth spending any money on.
Why do you need the whole film in cam quality to judge whether it is worth spending any money on?

Most people can tell from a Trailer whether it's their cup of tea or not. I think downloading a cam copy to make sure you like a film, and that it's worth spending any money, is a bit over the top to be honest.

2412.7.2007 3:32

DjDanio
.......... because there is a limit to how much hollywoodisim I can take,trailers show jack sht when it comes to the the damage "down conversion to film" dose.How many trailers make the movie look worse than it is?All in all either I preview or have nothing to do with it altogether either way its their loss 90% of the time,its not like they are making movies for "my" consumption anyway..

2512.7.2007 3:49

Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:
DjDanio
.......... because there is a limit to how much hollywoodisim I can take,trailers show jack sht when it comes to the the damage "down conversion to film" dose.How many trailers make the movie look worse than it is?All in all either I preview or have nothing to do with it altogether either way its their loss 90% of the time,its not like they are making movies for "my" consumption anyway..
Fair enough, i watch the transformer trailer, and i know i wont go and watch it at the cinema. I wont rush out to buy or rent it. But i will end up watching it some day.

Most films are awful, and you can tell from the trailer instantly, or even the movie poster.

2612.7.2007 4:00

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Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:
DjDanio
.......... because there is a limit to how much hollywoodisim I can take,trailers show jack sht when it comes to the the damage "down conversion to film" dose.How many trailers make the movie look worse than it is?All in all either I preview or have nothing to do with it altogether either way its their loss 90% of the time,its not like they are making movies for "my" consumption anyway..
Fair enough, i watch the transformer trailer, and i know i wont go and watch it at the cinema. I wont rush out to buy or rent it. But i will end up watching it some day.

Most films are awful, and you can tell from the trailer instantly, or even the movie poster.

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Its a bit weak,but its a simi brain dead summer flick "bakuhatsu" (not as in bomb but flashy explosives) its not bad but tis not great,its good enough for me to want to get the DVD tho,since most comic/game/odd IP films get raped for mass "consumption".

It always annoys me over the excuses made for comic films "they have to make it like this because it will sale" blah thats BS, they make it like that because they do not have the talent or foresight to make it better, changing it into something its not is so damn aggravating,Xmen is pretty much the most successful "rapeatation" hollywood has done yet,Sipdr man 1 and even 2 are not so bad,3 is god awful tho,ghost rider is watered down and regerated for the woolie masses...its just fing sad.... at least TF survived the "changes" even if its weak.

2712.7.2007 4:24

Having been a manager at a video store several years ago, there really is alot of crap that comes out. I'd say I rarely download a cam release unless I'm not sure that the movie is worth paying to see. In the case of Ghost Rider, I think I watched 15 minutes, and judged it to be pretty good (along with a friend's recommendation) and paid full price for it, and it turned out to be pretty bad. Albeit, there is alot worse out there, which is why I wait for the budget theaters or DVD releases.

Let's not kid ourselves here, most of you get backups of DVD's or make them yourselves. If you have a service like Netflix, you're still contributing to the industry, but if you download cams or xvids, you don't deserve to see the movie in my opinion. However, the Catch-22 being if the download gets you to make a purchase. As far as buying a DVD, I might purchase 5 a year, because how many movies are actually worth a spot on your shelf?

2812.7.2007 4:36

so gettign a cheap cam job to preview a movie with all the video and audio issues is bad? please its more like a string of trailers.




I skimmed though ghost rider I really could not set and watch it, I think the final straw was the metrosexaul vampires as demons that got me,Ghost rider himself was a bit stiff,changing the rider history was stupid all in all fodder for sales nothing worth owning or paying any money for.. I can say the same about emo sidy 3....sandman was not so bad new goblin was dim and man voice venom was pitiful.


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2912.7.2007 6:23

How much does a cinema have to pay per play of a film?

or is it linked to how many people come and see it?

or is it a combo of the two?

3012.7.2007 7:33

I hear not doing wrong things keeps you from being punished from doing wrong things.

3112.7.2007 7:57

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bro you don't understand.. even if you record like 3 seconds of jackass 2 on theater of one of them farting is enough to land you in jail for about six months and give you 2500 fines nowadays... its called, making thy money.
lol....wee man's fart is worth $2,500 :-P

3212.7.2007 11:13
Ballpyhon
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All I want to know is why did they only charge the girl in Georgia with "Stealing" a movie and not the pot. The last time i checked, no one has ever had there life completely ruined from illegally recording movies, as some have had theirs ruined from drugs. In my opinion, the movie police probably should have called the real police, and had them (the real police) handle the situation.

Just as a comparison, if an individual robs a bank and fires a gun in the process, do they ignore that he fired the gun in order to emphasize that he was trying to steal money?

3312.7.2007 12:56

Originally posted by DjDanio:
How much does a cinema have to pay per play of a film?

or is it linked to how many people come and see it?

or is it a combo of the two?
the theater i work at we have to pay like rent almost for how long we decide to keep it.and it is usually really expensive around the 1k mark

3412.7.2007 16:58

Recording with a nokia phone? how much time can be record with a cell phone.

3512.7.2007 17:07

I don't see a problem. The would-be-cammers paid didn't they?

3612.7.2007 17:17

Originally posted by navi1199:
people... be afraid... be very afraid... with this new camcorder law comes in the new law, brining in outside food into theaters.. would-be law breakers are now sentenced up to 4 years in prison because someone thought it'd be fun to bring in a few pounds of potato chips, 3 bottles of pepsi, and 2 bags of popcorn...

oh shit, I just gave them new ideas... =P
The movie theaters tried that law down here in Australia but somebody took them on for restrictive trading and the theaters lost. :-)

Go the little guy!!!!

3712.7.2007 19:30

Quote:
Originally posted by navi1199:
people... be afraid... be very afraid... with this new camcorder law comes in the new law, brining in outside food into theaters.. would-be law breakers are now sentenced up to 4 years in prison because someone thought it'd be fun to bring in a few pounds of potato chips, 3 bottles of pepsi, and 2 bags of popcorn...

oh shit, I just gave them new ideas... =P
The movie theaters tried that law down here in Australia but somebody took them on for restrictive trading and the theaters lost. :-)

Go the little guy!!!!
this is where being inventive with consumer friendly fees would come into play, charge 5$ pre ice bag (you know thos stay cool bags for meats and stuff,they also have bag based coolers) make a simple clean up charge if you want to bring your own stuff charge 5-10$ for it, they spend so much time raping the consumer they forget that if you ask nicely and try and not charge so much they will bend over without being forced :P

3812.7.2007 20:52

It's beyond me why anyone would even want to watch a movie recorded like that. I want the 5.1 and the works!

3912.7.2007 20:59

Originally posted by wlstck:
It's beyond me why anyone would even want to watch a movie recorded like that. I want the 5.1 and the works!
preview..PREVIEW LOL

I wont spend money on crap :P

4013.7.2007 3:05

DjDanio,

Quote:

Why do you need the whole film in cam quality to judge whether it is worth spending any money on?

Most people can tell from a Trailer whether it's their cup of tea or not. I think downloading a cam copy to make sure you like a film, and that it's worth spending any money, is a bit over the top to be honest.
Ahh you don't know what kind of nuts power this forum. We have too much time on our hands and we do it because we can.

Hey Zippy I like your taste in flicks Hell Boy that was a sweet one.
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 13 Jul 2007 @ 3:06

4113.7.2007 8:37

Mez
Ya I was surprised over hellboy,since I knew lil about the comic I could relax a bit,even so the charatcers and humor came through well,it was a solid non pompous action flick,when thous "people" try and tell me Xmen is done with style and grace I turn off, sorry I don't care if the writers of the comics where there,I don't take kindly to pompous action flicks they try and "recreate" the IP they are based on.....

4214.7.2007 5:05

I went and saw this film in the theatre and to be totally honest with you I didn't go to the movie expecting much. The movie was actually a whole lot better than I thought it would be. I was expecting a movie that was completely CGI and a little more exciting than a cartoon. That is not what this one turned out to be. There were some quite good action sequences as well as car chases. The main female character was eye candy with a mechanical knowledge of how things work, and believe it or not there were quite a few funny parts too.

4314.7.2007 6:30

Originally posted by rammstein:
I went and saw this film in the theatre and to be totally honest with you I didn't go to the movie expecting much. The movie was actually a whole lot better than I thought it would be. I was expecting a movie that was completely CGI and a little more exciting than a cartoon. That is not what this one turned out to be. There were some quite good action sequences as well as car chases. The main female character was eye candy with a mechanical knowledge of how things work, and believe it or not there were quite a few funny parts too.
ya its not a brain dead flick,its ok summer movie,its got a lot of weak spots but over all its ok.

4414.7.2007 14:18

If they really want to stop this they must use Night Vision googles.

4515.7.2007 18:42

Originally posted by c1c:
Pretty soon they wont need to film in the theatres. They have machines that digitize each frame by scanning it. A little piece on the camera that scans it directly to a computer in real time. Much better quality than a guy chomping on popcorn in a movie.
There have been telecine machines for ages, and that's how film is captures for transfer to DVD (and friends). The problem is that the machines are expensive and to make use of it you need to get your hands on the actual film of the movie, which is more difficult to do than use a camcorder from the audience.

4617.7.2007 2:16

I personally did not like this film due to the fact that it was not at all interesting. If they got arested for this film well thats their own headache. Cam versions are no good anyway.

4717.7.2007 7:54
Norm9
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The cam version i got was pretty good (if it wasnt i would get it exchanged!) especially since i got it 3wks before it came out, but i got it by accident & didnt realise it was the film version until i read about in a Face-Off version with The Simpsons Movie also out on the same day (27th July) LOL

Although the story-line was a bit thin, but the action sequences were the filler throughout the film, no doubt there will be a sequel as usual :)

4817.7.2007 15:22

Just out of curiousity how did you get a cam version of the Transformers movie before it came into the theatre ?

4917.7.2007 16:37
Norm9
Inactive

Originally posted by rammstein:
Just out of curiousity how did you get a cam version of the Transformers movie before it came into the theatre ?
Heh, i forgot to say i got it at a car-boot/market stall one sat.
But i was wondering that myself!

But as i said in my previous post i hadnt realised there was a film about it til i picked it up with others & read about how The Simpsons Movie was out the same w/end as well.

I must ask them the next time i see them, as they might have The Simpsons Movie as well?

5020.7.2007 0:39
liveye
Inactive

Originally posted by munx:
i wouldnt sell my soul for $500. If it were like 5,000 that would be different :P

you love money so much?! hehe

5121.7.2007 13:43
rwzz
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All this talk of pivacy gets me really, really sick. The more pivacy laws they make, the richer these producers, actors, and directors become. I just have to laugh when I hear Mel Gibson or Steven Spielberg talk about all the money they lose from pivacy. They are both BILLIONAIRES. Not millionaires, BILLIONAIRES. Now that is just plain ridiculous and should be a crime, if anything is a crime. Then we have the blood sucking Movie theatures that charge more money for a box of 2 boxes popcorn & 2 sodas than I pay for food for the entire week. They do not allow you to bring food in and totally rip you off. Can anyone say price gouging? The bottom line with Pivacy is this. These people that download movies or get these recorded cam movies are not going to spend money anyway. Eithwer they do not have the movie or they will not spend it. All the people making the billions of dollars should just accept it already. They are getting all the money they can get already.

5231.12.2007 20:12

I read that story in my local newspaper of someone being arrested at UltraStar theatres in El Centro, California. I live about 20 miles away from UltraStar. According to the Imperial Valley Press, I understood that her Nokia phone was capable of recording the entire film. I didn't read a follow up of the incident again and the newspaper did not say if it was a male or female.

531.1.2008 12:49

Originally posted by rwzz:
All this talk of pivacy gets me really, really sick. The more pivacy laws they make, the richer these producers, actors, and directors become. I just have to laugh when I hear Mel Gibson or Steven Spielberg talk about all the money they lose from pivacy. They are both BILLIONAIRES. Not millionaires, BILLIONAIRES. Now that is just plain ridiculous and should be a crime, if anything is a crime. Then we have the blood sucking Movie theatures that charge more money for a box of 2 boxes popcorn & 2 sodas than I pay for food for the entire week. They do not allow you to bring food in and totally rip you off. Can anyone say price gouging? The bottom line with Pivacy is this. These people that download movies or get these recorded cam movies are not going to spend money anyway. Eithwer they do not have the movie or they will not spend it. All the people making the billions of dollars should just accept it already. They are getting all the money they can get already.
How much is enough? If you make $200 for two weeks delivering pizzas is it OK for some bum off the street to take five bucks out of your pocket because HE thinks you make 'enough'? Movie going is a luxury service. If you can't afford to go, don't do it. I don't.

541.1.2008 17:46
rwzz
Inactive

it's a luxury to get a box of popcorn that costs about 20 cents to make? But that is not the point. My point is that Federal laws permit recording any movie. You can sell the copy, give the copy away or do anything you want with it. So you are saying that movie going is a luxury and the quality of the movie does not matter to the average person that pays $10 a ticket? They just go there to get ripped off on popcorn, soda & candy, and then they can brag that they went to the movies. It is a luxury and they want to brag that they are rich? We all know this is not the truth. The MPAA spends millions of dollars to advertise horrible movies every week. Then they want more and more laws passed so they can get away with it. And most of these laws would never get passed through Congress either, because they are unconstitutional. They are all State laws that would be thrown out in any supreme court

552.1.2008 0:59

The theaters make very little on the film itself. They only get a percentage of ticket sales with very little coming from the first couple of weeks. They make more money the longer the film runs. They make their real money from consessions. That's why popcorn and drinks are so high. Who in their right mind would run a business and not make a profit?

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