Sony sues DRM developer

I'd love to be on that jury!

I guess Sony just doesn't understand all of this complicated technical stuff...

Hey Sony - If you put copy protection on a CD, but copy protection isn't part of the CD spec, then CD players might have trouble playing the CD.

Hey Sony - If you put unwanted "sneaky" software on a CD (i.e. a root kit) the customer might get angry. If that software messes-up the customer's computer, they are going to be really angry.

Hey Sony - If you put some new type of copy protection on a DVD, but that copy protection isn't part of the DVD spec, the software/firmware required to play the DVD won't be built into DVD players and there might be problems.

*dies laughing*

I hope the bastards don't see a penny. They're trying to recoop on their losses.

sony your products are awesome your drm sucks

Well if it isn't the pot calling the kettle black...

Originally posted by Snatched:

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I hope the bastards don't see a penny. They're trying to recoop on their losses.

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yeah really pirates have cracked every copyprotection thrown at them and all this copyprotection does in the end is hurt the honest consumers

seriously... half of you guys probably never bought a Sony DRM CD. so idk why you guys are following the crowd. and if you have.. sony paid you back.. so idk why bad mouth sony.. they hired a company to come up with a DRM.. so its not really sony that did it. i hope they get all their money.. and the drm company gets liquidated. and go back to good ol' crackable CSS.

I guess whenever BD+ is cracked, then someone needs to sue Sony.

Originally posted by lxfactor:

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seriously... half of you guys probably never bought a Sony DRM CD. so idk why you guys are following the crowd. and if you have.. sony paid you back.. so idk why bad mouth sony.. they hired a company to come up with a DRM.. so its not really sony that did it. i hope they get all their money.. and the drm company gets liquidated. and go back to good ol' crackable CSS.

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It all depends on what's in that license agreement between Sony and the DRM developer. If it stated they should have developed a DRM system that allows full use of the CD in a normal user environment while prohibiting copying, then that developer didn't deliver on the goods, meaning Sony might have a case.
I don't know the term in English, but there is something like a contract in which a company promises a certain result. If they can't deliver that result, it's considered a breach of contract. This might be the case here.

They are really stupid. Even if that companies DRM didnt hold its all a matter of time before all these companies DRM is broken. Sony needs to just deal with the fact that DRM and other technology will be cracked no matter what. Its always somebody or bodies around that will be waiting for them to develop new crap to crack or get around. Just think about like this if Sony has a 1000 man crew brainstorming to stop piracy on their media its over a couple million more people waiting to knock down all their attempts.

Originally posted by spydah:

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They are really stupid. Even if that companies DRM didnt hold its all a matter of time before all these companies DRM is broken. Sony needs to just deal with the fact that DRM and other technology will be cracked no matter what. Its always somebody or bodies around that will be waiting for them to develop new crap to crack or get around. Just think about like this if Sony has a 1000 man crew brainstorming to stop piracy on their media its over a couple million more people waiting to knock down all their attempts.

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No, a better example is a criminal hiring another criminal to help him steal. That criminal fails to deliver. So what does the first criminal do? Take him to court.

Makes no sense to me.

Originally posted by gallagher:

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No, a better example is a criminal hiring another criminal to help him steal. That criminal fails to deliver. So what does the first criminal do? Take him to court.

Makes no sense to me.

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Tsk, tsk...trying REALLY hard to pass the buck!

Imagine that...get caught, find a scapegoat.

Originally posted by venomX05:

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Tsk, tsk...trying REALLY hard to pass the buck!

Imagine that...get caught, find a scapegoat.

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Chalk up another great PR coup for the Sony guys!

Hilarious.

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The music company accuses emergence of negligence, unfair business practices and breaching the terms of its license agreement by delivering software that "did not perform as warranted."

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Sony is resposible period, nobody should be making excuses for these moguls, I hope they dont retrieve a dime.

Originally posted by tucker001:

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sony your products are awesome your drm sucks

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Maybe there is a God!

Most software EULA's basically state that even if the manufacturer knows of defects the user cannot sue. So this will depend on the agreement
As far as the rootkit thing goes Sony is NOT the only company responsible
until Mark found this thing Symantec, McAfee, Sophos and all the rest did not detect it as a virus when in reality the code was more than a year old
OH and FYI to the person who said we probably never got one of these....
The company I used to work for made a lot of money clearing this crap off peoples PC's..Me I have autorun off all my machines though a group policy
and I personally own a cd with the technology on it

OOPS I almost forgot...F $ony I have not purchased or will ever purchase another $ony product since that root kit fiasco..that's the only way companies will learn

Hmm... This could set a precedent. Imagine being able to sue a software company because the software doesn't perform as advertised. (Better watch out, Micro$oft, they're gunning for you, next!)

On a more serious note, I can't imagine Sony incorporated it into their audio CD's, without first understanding how it works. The DRM company had to have explained it to them, at least as a selling point. But it was Sony that made the mistake of treating their customers property as their own, not the DRM company. Ultimately, it was Sony that chose to violate the trust of their consumers. They could have chosen not to use it, or chose to use another one. But they didn't. Now they (Sony) want their vendor to pay for a corporate decision that turned into a major fiasco, generated alot of backlash against it, cost alot of money to fix, and tarnished their corporate image. I guess in this day and age, "Corporate Responsibility" has become an oxymoron. It's a shame, really...

RNR1995, not ever buying another sony product after the root kit scam, I had said the same thing a while back after they did this, I never heard any body mention they are done with sony besides myself, nobody wants to go that far.

I did, and I have been a sony customer for about 40 years, after that I made my vow and will keep, its a shame most people dont think the same way, just image the lesson this big moguls would learn if most people did.

Actually, the BEST thing that could happen is if Sony absolutely takes them to the cleaners! You'd be amazed at how quickly true programming talent would dry up for such underhanded efforts IF the writers were found retroactively liable for their efforts.