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Denon introduces powerful Blu-ray player

Written by Andre Yoskowitz @ 26 Jul 2007 4:11 User comments (21)

Denon introduces powerful Blu-ray player Denon Electronics has announced that they will indeed be releasing an advanced Blu-ray player putting end to weeks of rumors.
The high end DVD-3800BDCI will include some of the most powerful, advanced features seen on a Blu-ray player to date. It will be the first player to use a Realta HQV video processor which "allows for advanced video clean-up of even the best high-def signals."

The player will also obviously include 1080p output as well as decoding for all current HD audio formats such as Dolby TrueHD, DTS HD Lossless Master Audio and uncompressed PCM, which can output to 7.1 systems.

Another first the player brings to the table is support for BD-ROM Version 1.1, which will allow for support of picture-in-picture content on upcoming Blu ray titles.

Although there is no exact release date known yet, the price tag will be a handsome $2000 USD for the DVD-3800BDCI.

Source:
HD Digest

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21 user comments

126.7.2007 16:27

No thanks.

226.7.2007 17:15

It will be amazing if you have a 1080p TV, and a Denon 7.1 receiver. If I had enough money for that stuff in the first place I would get one though.

326.7.2007 17:33

$2000!!!!! isn't that WAY TOO much money. OMG you can buy a lot of things with that kind of money. for a disc player, 2k is not worth it.

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 26 Jul 2007 @ 5:35

426.7.2007 17:44
dblbogey7
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Originally posted by rainofire:
$2000!!!!! isn't that WAY TOO much money. OMG you can buy a lot of things with that kind of money. for a disc player, 2k is not worth it.
Remember you're talking about Denon here. It's a brand that caters to the high-end enthusiast and has very little to do with the mass market. $2K is nothing if you consider that their flagship, top-of-the-line, upconverting, non-HD, non-BluRay, DVD player is the $3800 DVD-5910CI:

http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3127.asp

526.7.2007 18:29

This machine is obviously targeted for a very specific market segment. I don't expect it to have a significant effect on mass market adoption of HD media nor is it expected to speed up the end of the format war.

However, Denon does release its flagship models first (as in the 5910). It will be interesting to see the other lesser Denon BluRay models as they trickle out of their assembly line.

626.7.2007 18:50

Sorry, unless you have abnormal ears and abnormal supervision, why on earth would you want http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3127.asp ? If you are Bill Gates, maybe. But otherwise, I will stick with my nice $30.00 Magnavox DVD player.

726.7.2007 19:06

Does Denon have a layaway plan? lol

827.7.2007 02:41

What would i need this for? I have no need for this one bit. It's great and can do a lot by what it saids it can do but its not for me.

927.7.2007 04:47
hughjars
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Well each to their own but IMO fugly & carrying the regular outrageous Blu-ray price-ticket.

Anyhoo for those interested the Denon press release is intriguing (Denon are also members of the HD DVD group ) -

Quote:
Joe Stinziano, Denon's Senior Vice President for Sales and Marketing, noted:
"Denon is committed to providing our discriminating customers with a no-compromise high-end solution for enjoying next-generation high resolution media.
Our new products exemplify the highest level of home theater quality.
As a member of the Blu-ray Disc Association, we brought all of our design and engineering expertise to bear in the creation of these groundbreaking Blu-ray products, setting new performance standards for the format.

Denon remains committed to offering our customers the most options in ultimate-quality home entertainment products and to this end, our future plans do not preclude the introduction of high-definition products in other formats."
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/denon-line-sh...ayer-281915.php

.....just out of interest the Denon press release in Germany added this -


Quote:
... Wann es die ersten HD-DVD-Player von Denon geben wird, konnte Denon Deutschland nicht sagen, bestätigte aber entsprechende Pläne.


http://golem.de/0707/53717.html

which reads:

"Denon Germany cannot say at the moment when the first HD-DVD player will be introduced, but confirms respective plans (for such a player)."

Interesting (although given their price tags probably utterly irrelevant to me).

1027.7.2007 05:05

I like Denon and if you like to buy high end equipment then this is a good investment.Personaly I think Denon have priced this a bit too high even if it is high end,it is just a movie player at the end of the day and I've no doubt they'll be other products with comparable sound and picture at a cheaper price.
The one thing that bugs me is the Realta HQV video processor thats supposed to clean up the picture.It is always best to process the video before encoding not after as this introduces even more distortion to the original video.I wouldn't buy badly encoded HD movies if they wern't cleaned up in the first place,thats just ridiculous.

1127.7.2007 05:40
dblbogey7
Inactive

Originally posted by ChromeMud:
The one thing that bugs me is the Realta HQV video processor thats supposed to clean up the picture.It is always best to process the video before encoding not after as this introduces even more distortion to the original video.I wouldn't buy badly encoded HD movies if they wern't cleaned up in the first place,thats just ridiculous.
These poorly encoded discs is what the Realta HQV chip was expressly made for. I have the Toshiba HD-XA2 which has the Silicon Optics ReonVX HQV chip (a close relative of the Realta) and what it does to "clean up" these discs is short of miraculous.

1227.7.2007 06:21

What I'm saying is dblbogey7,is that you buy all this top end equipment,speakers,HD telly and yet some of these disks are badly encoded and need post processing to clean them up.
I have encoded HD video myself and there is simply no excuse for poor quality especialy when you are paying for a HD format thats supposed to be superior and cost some extra bux over a standard DVD.
I would rather the disk be decoded pure and directly to the screen without further processing.Most HD purists switch off all the processing done by the player and TV to get as close to the original video as possible.I would not buy a badly encoded disk,there is no excuse for bad quality and having to rely on video processing as a fix.

1327.7.2007 06:56
dblbogey7
Inactive

@ChromeMud: So your problem is basically with the encoders and the studios themselves for not providing an acceptable master. Your problem is not with the hardware.

Quote:
I would rather the disk be decoded pure and directly to the screen without further processing.Most HD purists switch off all the processing done by the player and TV to get as close to the original video as possible
The PS3 is doing something close to what you're asking. It reads the 1080p/24fps data from the disc and outputs this data as 1080p/24fps thru HDMI.

1427.7.2007 07:58

this thing is garbage serious check out the avsforums the ps3 is a way better deal then this and that also garbage.

1527.7.2007 09:15

I honestly don't know how you can call it a piece of garbage. It's going to be expensive, and isn't intended for average users. It will be one of the best Blu-Ray players you can buy, but not a good solution for you apparently.

1627.7.2007 09:39

That's PDI (Pretty Darn Insane). Look, spending $2000 on an A/V receiver is crazy enough, but at least that box isn't likely to fail in the first 5 years. But, my negative history with ANY optical drive(CD or DVD) has been WAYYYYY too high. Optical drives have moving parts, and moving parts fail at a MUCH higher rate than boxes that contain only circuit boards and non-moving parts. At least 40% of my CD and DVD drives have had some sort of failure within the first 4 years of ownership, and that is the very reason I just won't spend more than $400 on any optical hardware. People who fork out $2000 on this box and then see it fail after 18 months are going to feel like idiots, unless money is simply no object. Looks like Denon is aiming this box at the "no object" crowd. Also, people on this board who refer to this(or any A/V gear) as an "investment" make me chuckle. Perhaps you should change your wording to "value", since few things are worse investments than electronic gear. The value of this box will drop by 30-40% the day you buy it; not my idea of a good "investment".

1727.7.2007 10:20

I agree with you rkj78h6g5.It's only an investment if you want the best build quality,high end decoders,excellent RF shielding,etc to equal a good signal but it doesn't represent value at all.
Optical drives are prone to mechanical failure and I would only spend
10% of a total system budget on a player,rather focussing on amp,speakers and cable as the real investment in a system build.

1827.7.2007 17:59
JohnRoxy
Inactive

Cool! My biggest problem with this is that I am lucky if one single classic movie is made in any given year! I really don't care to see (fill in the blank) Part III in "Super Duper High Def" any time soon. The true classics are only going to be as good as the original recording...in other words, "you can't polish a turd" and even if you could, why bother?

1927.7.2007 20:44

Denon makes some nice stuff, but 2 G's is 2 G's. I can do a lot with my two grand.

2028.7.2007 09:39

The price is about right for the Denon name and I'm sure it is pretty nice. Denon and Yamaha is not high end they are only middle of the road in the HiFi world but are very good for their price range, bang for the buck. I have both and just love them, Yamaha gives you a little more in features so I lean towards that. Obviously this player isn't for your penny pinchers, which there are a lot of, and I agree with the fact that this is too much as this type of deck will be in the hundreds of dollars in a year or two instead of 2k. If I had a movie theater setup I might think about it but otherwise not.

2128.7.2007 11:24

For that price it should include a Maxim model in a bikini to change my disk for me. Then I'd roll out the credit card.

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