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Sony PS3 to have exclusive rights to new Rockstar Games title

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 30 Jul 2007 16:13 User comments (36)

Sony PS3 to have exclusive rights to new Rockstar Games title Sony third party relations cheif Michael Shorrock has said that the company has purchased exclusive rights for the next game franchise by Rockstar Games, makers of the popular Grand Theft Auto and Manhunt series among many others.
According to Shorrock, a "completely new" franchise will be launched exclusive to the PlayStation 3 which should help Sony regain some credibility after losing out on a deal that placed exclusive GTA: IV content on the rival Xbox 360.

"Everyone knows to have success in this business you need to look ahead, identifying the talent and titles that are going to give consumers new kinds of gaming experiences that help set the bar for the rest of the industry,"
Shorrock said. "Rockstar has a heritage for doing just that."

Sony also said the game would make "heavy use of the PlayStation 3's Cell and Blu-ray technologies" but could not disclose more due to a non-disclosure agreement made with Rockstar.

JupiterResearch senior analyst Michael Gartenberg did mention that there may be more to the deal then what is known now.

"There's one interesting part of this,"
he said. "No one does exclusives without a really good reason and given the fact that Sony is not dominating this console cycle, I would think Sony must have paid quite a bit to get the exclusivity."

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130.7.2007 16:24

ahhh man, i'd rather have a game from R* than exclusive content!

230.7.2007 16:47

Of course. When your system sucks and you are losing to a system like the 360 even with its many problems, you have no choice but to buy exclusive rights to games and monopolize like you do with the Blu-Ray.

Why give customers a choice? I mean, wow, they might say you suck and refuse to buy your products . . .

330.7.2007 16:50

Originally posted by gallagher:
Of course. When your system sucks and you are losing to a system like the 360 even with its many problems, you have no choice but to buy exclusive rights to games and monopolize like you do with the Blu-Ray.

Why give customers a choice? I mean, wow, they might say you suck and refuse to buy your products . . .
hahaha you xbox fanboys are a joke!

430.7.2007 17:07

Quote:
Originally posted by gallagher:
Of course. When your system sucks and you are losing to a system like the 360 even with its many problems, you have no choice but to buy exclusive rights to games and monopolize like you do with the Blu-Ray.

Why give customers a choice? I mean, wow, they might say you suck and refuse to buy your products . . .
hahaha you xbox fanboys are a joke!

no your a fanboy for even saying that in the first place...blue-ray was shoved down the consumers throat and its bullshit..f*&k sony after that..

530.7.2007 17:22
OzMick
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From the mouth of Jack Tretton:

Quote:
"We have a very different approach to exclusives than some of our competitors. We don't buy exclusivity. We don't fund development. We don't, for the lack of a better term, bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform."
Hahahahahahaha, good one Sony.

630.7.2007 17:35

blu-ray wasnt shoved down any ones throat. they made a multi media machine and used a format that they are behind. you do not have to buy a ps3 if you do not want too. for you to bash a company and not even bought the product is pretty asinine. if you want something shoved down your throat come and visit me and i can hook you up.

730.7.2007 17:42

*snares at everyone above*
Fanboyisims aside lets look at what it is a 1 game deal for 1 game they might start another franchise or make a PSN game to sell at the PSN store theres not really a lot of info other than game deal and abuse the resources to the max.

Frankly they could pull anything out of their hat,and it might be good it might not be in the end save your pennies and get all the consoles so it will kill off all the needless fanboyisims in you.

Now I am off to play my PC :P
LOL

830.7.2007 17:45

Originally posted by banshee07:
blu-ray wasnt shoved down any ones throat. they made a multi media machine and used a format that they are behind. you do not have to buy a ps3 if you do not want too. for you to bash a company and not even bought the product is pretty asinine. if you want something shoved down your throat come and visit me and i can hook you up.
300 vrs 600 yes it was shoved down the trouts of gamers across the world BR is not needed for gameing in this generation of gaming.

SO sony tied BR to the PS3 and forced it and a over the top price tag on the consumers why do you think tis sold only 4.8 milloin world wide in 7 months?

and how many gamers fish..... 0-o

LOL
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930.7.2007 17:47

Originally posted by banshee07:
blu-ray wasnt shoved down any ones throat. they made a multi media machine and used a format that they are behind. you do not have to buy a ps3 if you do not want too. for you to bash a company and not even bought the product is pretty asinine. if you want something shoved down your throat come and visit me and i can hook you up.
ummm your threating people over the internet..get a life...and it was shoved down our throats it made the console way to money..


1030.7.2007 17:53

I have all 3 systems and this is how they are used. My wii is for group entertainment, my 360 for online games, and my ps3 sorry to say right now is nothing more than a blu-ray/dvd player. It does have great upscaling on regular dvds. I am waiting for liar.

1130.7.2007 18:00

Originally posted by tony2toes:
I have all 3 systems and this is how they are used. My wii is for group entertainment, my 360 for online games, and my ps3 sorry to say right now is nothing more than a blu-ray/dvd player. It does have great upscaling on regular dvds. I am waiting for liar.
I need to get the WII for metroid prime 3 and zelda even if zelda is so so,I need the 360 for FPSs because the bastards wont port to the PC and I need a PS3 for good RPGs...if they can make them anymore LOL (RPGs went to mainstream and non offer a fun and rewording skill/equipment systems FF12 is a joke on thos grounds....)

I like FPS,FP,RPG,action,RTS,TBS and shooters not so fond of racing sports or party games.



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1230.7.2007 18:05

double post sorry

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1330.7.2007 18:05

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ummm your threating people over the internet..get a life...and it was shoved down our throats it made the console way to money..
never once did i threatin anyone over the net. and if you dont want to buy a ps3 dont. you are not hurting my feelings one bit. stick with the 360 as it seems to be the console for you. i for one will be playing any game i would like becuase im not held down to one or the other.

and i do agree the Wii is fun when your drunk and have a group od friends over.
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1430.7.2007 18:13

First and only warning, comment on the article or dont comment at all. Fanboyism or accusations of fanboyism should be left at home. thank you.

1530.7.2007 18:37

Lovely response DVDback. I cant wait until this comes out and at this point it dont matter what system its on as long as it looks good and they keep the quality of the game that made it fun in the first place. Thats what people keep forgetting.

1630.7.2007 20:02

Hey this artical is like sony saying that rumble is last gen. I own all three and I'm not a fanboy, but sony has been pissing me off for over five years now.

1730.7.2007 20:16
vinny13
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Do douche fanboys have to ruin everything?

I like Rockstar, and it's the reason why I bought a PS2. I liked the PS2, so I'll someday get a PS3, and then a Wii. And I actually like the Blu-Ray Player. I have a HDTV, and I also think that it'll be proven useful to developers on the future. I also think that 1 disc is better then having 3.

It sounds fanboyish but I hate M$ because they always rip me off and then they don't own up to it.

1830.7.2007 22:34
Ballpyhon
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the main reason that Rockstar is not staying exclusive to the PS3 and is releasing to the 360 as well as the PS3 this time is simply that the 360 is, well...doing 360s around the PS3. Sure you may have to pay roughly $4.50 a month for XBLive, but don't you still have to pay for the internet connection with the PS3? I think i will cough up the extra $4.50 a month for XBlive and be able to actually talk to other players during games, instead of having to stop playing only to type on a half ass ghetto keyboard. its almost like comparing a standard TV to a HDTV. sure a Standard TV gets the job done, but the HDTV is far superior and you will enjoy it more. not to mention, 360s are cheaper, and they sell better. for those of you who say that they are crap, just remember, if you have a PS3 i still wont be able to hear you.

1930.7.2007 23:58

I would have thought the PS3 had already had the rights to the GTA series.

2031.7.2007 5:28
nobrainer
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hang on dodn't Jack Tretton state last month that sony

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=78883

Originally posted by Lying Tretton :
"We have a very different approach to exclusives than some of our competitors," he continued.

"We don't buy exclusivity. We don't fund development. We don't, for lack of a better term, bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform."

Just another Sony screw over i suppose?

http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/25/sony-...-its-customers/


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2131.7.2007 8:06

I see no news here Smugglers Run for the Cube was an exclusive and it also sucked ass.

2231.7.2007 11:09

Not a big deal they do this alot if you think about it..For example (Soul Calibor 3) I think that's the game which had exclusive content for each system Xbox,PS2,Gamecube Each one had there own fighter for there brand like gamecube was link ps2 was a tekken guy and xbox was spawn...More hype then quality if you ask me..I want these systems to start getting close in ranks and sales then maybe we'll start getting more games and better exclusives so were all happy...

2331.7.2007 15:00

I say good job for sony picking this up. Since M$ dumped 50 million on the exclusive content for GTA IV. I wonder if you can download it for free? Nah it will be 800 M$ points per package.Gee whiz what a deal roughly 10.00 a pop on top of monthy fee.

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Sure you may have to pay roughly $4.50 a month for XBLive, but don't you still have to pay for the internet connection with the PS3?

Yeah I guess us ps3 guys are getting screwed. I didn't know all the xbox guys get there internet for free. No wait I guess you guys are paying 4.50 a month on top of your isp fees. At least thats how my 360 works.

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blue-ray was shoved down the consumers throat and its bullshit.

You couldn't be more wrong on this. HD-DVD had a head start (it was released first). Also the players are cheaper. There is more advertising. So why dont you tell why blu-ray is outselling them?

Maybe its because it wont need to be replaced in 3-5 years.

If you got a 360 and added everything you would need for HD-DVD and wifi you will have spent more than it costs to buy a ps3 and the HD-DVD drive will not support games on the HD-DVD format.

2431.7.2007 15:32

Im not gunna say much since i've already had a warning but..

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If you got a 360 and added everything you would need for HD-DVD and wifi you will have spent more than it costs to buy a ps3 and the HD-DVD drive will not support games on the HD-DVD format.

ok wifi sucks...i use my ethernet cord more stable..HD-DVD ok way to go off topic...and games do not need to be on blue-ray or hd-dvd this gen..it was a weak move to boost blue-ray on sonys behalf.....





And who say the next game they produce will be any good?


251.8.2007 6:29
Fenix88
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Why is it that you think games do not need to be on blu ray or hd dvd? With hd content whether it be games or movies they need more room than what todays dvds can support. Not only on the video side but the audio side as well. Games are becoming more and more like movies the carry 5.1 digital soundtracks and some of the games support 1080p. Putting the games on a standard dvd would mean that they would have to compress the audio & video more just to fit it on a dvd. But if they use either format blu ray or hd dvd the game developers have more freedom to make the games hoe they want. Also with the extra space they do not have have downloadable content. Example Rainbow Six Vegas came with Red & Black map packs. You had to download those. I have both systems and I like both. Question don't you want the games to bigger and better video and audio wise? The games today are a far cry from the atari 2600 days which I grew up on and I hope they continue to get better on both consoles and future systems.

261.8.2007 10:17

Originally posted by Fenix88:
Why is it that you think games do not need to be on blu ray or hd dvd? With hd content whether it be games or movies they need more room than what todays dvds can support. Not only on the video side but the audio side as well. Games are becoming more and more like movies the carry 5.1 digital soundtracks and some of the games support 1080p. Putting the games on a standard dvd would mean that they would have to compress the audio & video more just to fit it on a dvd. But if they use either format blu ray or hd dvd the game developers have more freedom to make the games hoe they want. Also with the extra space they do not have have downloadable content. Example Rainbow Six Vegas came with Red & Black map packs. You had to download those. I have both systems and I like both. Question don't you want the games to bigger and better video and audio wise? The games today are a far cry from the atari 2600 days which I grew up on and I hope they continue to get better on both consoles and future systems.
First on no one is using Hdvd for gaming and no one will yet because MS did not build it into the 360 and the Hdvd add on it just for movies and they have said as much, BR wont be used heavily because the industry is in a DVD9 mindset,yes you will have a few BR games that are not in the 8GB chuck mind set the industry has but for the 90+% of the other games they will be made with the current technology in mind DVD9,DVD5.

This gen is a transition period from Normal gaming and Hdef leaving a lot of standards to be put into place and a lot of tech to udnerstand thats why Hdef disc formats are more damaging to gaming right now.

271.8.2007 17:29
japhy
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I am excited that Sony is getting a few exclusives, no matter what your console preference is, a market with multiple thriving machines will produce better games for everyone. Just look at NFL 2k5 vs Madden, I am sorry but Madden has dropped the ball since it went exclusive. I would worry that the same thing would happen if one console ruled the roost. Like Nintendo did back in the SNES days, they sure dropped the ball back then, it took them 3 generations to really get back in the fight of things.

I may not love MS, but I am excited about the amazing innovations that have come about in this generation.

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281.8.2007 17:48

Originally posted by Thoatih12:
Im not gunna say much since i've already had a warning but..

"If you got a 360 and added everything you would need for HD-DVD and wifi you will have spent more than it costs to buy a ps3 and the HD-DVD drive will not support games on the HD-DVD format.
"

ok wifi sucks...i use my ethernet cord more stable..HD-DVD ok way to go off topic...and games do not need to be on blue-ray or hd-dvd this gen..it was a weak move to boost blue-ray on sonys behalf.....





And who say the next game they produce will be any good?
PGR4 for the xbox 360 doesn't fit completely on a DVD9


291.8.2007 17:50

Quote:
Originally posted by Fenix88:
Why is it that you think games do not need to be on blu ray or hd dvd? With hd content whether it be games or movies they need more room than what todays dvds can support. Not only on the video side but the audio side as well. Games are becoming more and more like movies the carry 5.1 digital soundtracks and some of the games support 1080p. Putting the games on a standard dvd would mean that they would have to compress the audio & video more just to fit it on a dvd. But if they use either format blu ray or hd dvd the game developers have more freedom to make the games hoe they want. Also with the extra space they do not have have downloadable content. Example Rainbow Six Vegas came with Red & Black map packs. You had to download those. I have both systems and I like both. Question don't you want the games to bigger and better video and audio wise? The games today are a far cry from the atari 2600 days which I grew up on and I hope they continue to get better on both consoles and future systems.
First on no one is using Hdvd for gaming and no one will yet because MS did not build it into the 360 and the Hdvd add on it just for movies and they have said as much, BR wont be used heavily because the industry is in a DVD9 mindset,yes you will have a few BR games that are not in the 8GB chuck mind set the industry has but for the 90+% of the other games they will be made with the current technology in mind DVD9,DVD5.

This gen is a transition period from Normal gaming and Hdef leaving a lot of standards to be put into place and a lot of tech to understand thats why Hdef disc formats are more damaging to gaming right now.
I think you misunderstood him Zippy, he's not saying games are going to be on HD-DVD, he's saying that both consoles would benefit from having a HD format for games. I personally would probably have bought a 360 over a ps3 had it used HD-DVD for games, as it is currently I just cant see the system as having a very long life(say multi disc all you like but GTA would suck ass as a multi disc game). So spending $400 now then having to pay another $400 for the next xbox in a few years would cost more than getting a ps3 now and having it last twice as long(either by braking or being replaced by newer Xbox)

EDIT: Im not saying 25-50gb is needed for gaming, and probably wont be for at least 5 years, but somewhere in the area of 15gb is what should be the average for this Gen. Example, Gears Of War, which is currently one of the best looking console games is something like 8gb, looks very good but for that 8GB the game lasts less than 10hrs in Single Player. Dunno about you but paying $70+ for 10hrs of gaming isnt my idea of a good deal, and thats where LIVE shows its strengths giving hours of extended play (for a price).
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301.8.2007 18:24

lxfactor
but still in the DVD9 mindset,if not by 1 by 2 and rarely if ever by more.

Originally posted by Andrew691:
Quote:
Originally posted by Fenix88:
Why is it that you think games do not need to be on blu ray or hd dvd? With hd content whether it be games or movies they need more room than what todays dvds can support. Not only on the video side but the audio side as well. Games are becoming more and more like movies the carry 5.1 digital soundtracks and some of the games support 1080p. Putting the games on a standard dvd would mean that they would have to compress the audio & video more just to fit it on a dvd. But if they use either format blu ray or hd dvd the game developers have more freedom to make the games hoe they want. Also with the extra space they do not have have downloadable content. Example Rainbow Six Vegas came with Red & Black map packs. You had to download those. I have both systems and I like both. Question don't you want the games to bigger and better video and audio wise? The games today are a far cry from the atari 2600 days which I grew up on and I hope they continue to get better on both consoles and future systems.
First on no one is using Hdvd for gaming and no one will yet because MS did not build it into the 360 and the Hdvd add on it just for movies and they have said as much, BR wont be used heavily because the industry is in a DVD9 mindset,yes you will have a few BR games that are not in the 8GB chuck mind set the industry has but for the 90+% of the other games they will be made with the current technology in mind DVD9,DVD5.

This gen is a transition period from Normal gaming and Hdef leaving a lot of standards to be put into place and a lot of tech to understand thats why Hdef disc formats are more damaging to gaming right now.
I think you misunderstood him Zippy, he's not saying games are going to be on HD-DVD, he's saying that both consoles would benefit from having a HD format for games. I personally would probably have bought a 360 over a ps3 had it used HD-DVD for games, as it is currently I just cant see the system as having a very long life(say multi disc all you like but GTA would suck ass as a multi disc game). So spending $400 now then having to pay another $400 for the next xbox in a few years would cost more than getting a ps3 now and having it last twice as long(either by braking or being replaced by newer Xbox)


EDIT: Im not saying 25-50gb is needed for gaming, and probably wont be for at least 5 years, but somewhere in the area of 15gb is what should be the average for this Gen. Example, Gears Of War, which is currently one of the best looking console games is something like 8gb, looks very good but for that 8GB the game lasts less than 10hrs in Single Player. Dunno about you but paying $70+ for 10hrs of gaming isnt my idea of a good deal, and thats where LIVE shows its strengths giving hours of extended play (for a price).


Well no matter what one dose or thinks a console has a normal life span of 5-7 years, so this go around with the idnsutry using DVD9s more than anything else the need for disc space is not critical enough to really effect games.

The PS3 is not "future proof" either ,not with its limits however they might be able to raise thos limits in time but still, the PS3 dose have a advantage over the others its overall design is forward thinking at the cost of "the now" I think sony need to dig its hells in and let this system ride 2 years into the 8th gen so they can bring a cost effective and powerful system to bear.

However there is another matter to worry over the PS3 is a media machine and when will heavily used units start failing I see visions of DRE over again but hopeful no where near as bad prehaps they even improved that but lens units can only last a good 3-5 years of heavy use so again no matter what you do you are going to wind up spending more than you want for a system, in the 360s case its obscene but they have now countered it with reasonable measures and the 64units seem worthy of a purchases but still I ma here on the side lines scoffing at both sony and MS's lack of care to their consumer.

Out of the 3 Nintendo is the most prefect but still only a 7 on my scale o'things the 360 is a 5 and the PS3 a 4 if it can remain at 500,PC parts are about a 7 too LOL,it dosent really matter of the 4 you choose you'll have to get them all to play the games because the PC is gettign dissed the WII will have its best 10 games and same for MS and Sony so to get the best of the best a whole 30 or 40 games you'll pretty much at the least need all the consoles,I wont count the handhelds until they let me play them on the TV LOL.

For me it comes down to proitzing what system first the WII is pretty much a must get I can live without a 360 but a WII is nintendo and they always have something worth while,the 360 is more or less a upgrade to my computer to play PC games that wont make it to the PC,the PS3 is last due to price and my general distaste for shallow gaming(hence the PC stealing 360 comments :P ).



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312.8.2007 6:14
Fenix88
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Andrew691 is right Gears is the best looking 360 game out there and it is short very short. Beat it in 8hrs and have heard guys beating it in under 5 hrs. People also fail to realize that took them a year after the launch of the 360 up until then the games were not very impressive.
Zippy I do see a need for more disc space example Resistance Fall Of Man is a 17GB game. With the cut scenes being in full HD. Then you bring up the fact that if the ps3 is used heavily that the laser life is 3 to 5 years. My ps2 which is cheaply made compared to the ps3 is still going strong without any problems since launch and my step son which also got 1 at the ps2 launch never shuts his of and leaves games and dvds in there all the time and has yet to have it fail. It is a matter of time before the game developers say we need more space. I mean look if there is a half a dozen or so games someone likes for the 360 and they all have updated map packs you are going to be out of hard drive space then forced to get another hard drive. Let alone the movie trailers and game demos and tv shows and what not on xbox live. I say they should just switch to a hd drive whether it be a blu ray or hd dvd drive now because its a matter of time. Don't get me wrong I have had my 360 for 1 year and have had 0 problems. I just think they jumped the gun to beat sony when they launched the 360. It would of been better to see them release the core/premin with 1) a bigger hard drive 2) hdmi and 3) a next gen drive. In the long run that would of been better for Microsoft and the consumer.

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322.8.2007 6:31
Fenix88
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332.8.2007 10:02

Originally posted by Fenix88:
Andrew691 is right Gears is the best looking 0 game out there and it is short very short. Beat it in 8hrs and have heard guys beating it in under 5 hrs. People also fail to realize that took them a year after the launch of the 360 up until then the games were not very impressive.
Zippy I do see a need for more disc space example Resistance Fall Of Man is a 17GB game. With the cut scenes being in full HD. Then you bring up the fact that if the ps3 is used heavily that the laser life is 3 to 5 years. My ps2 which is cheaply made compared to the ps3 is still going strong without any problems since launch and my step son which also got 1 at the ps2 launch never shuts his of and leaves games and dvds in there all the time and has yet to have it fail. It is a matter of time before the game developers say we need more space. I mean look if there is a half a dozen or so games someone likes for the 360 and they all have updated map packs you are going to be out of hard drive space then forced to get another hard drive. Let alone the movie trailers and game demos and tv shows and what not on xbox live. I say they should just switch to a hd drive whether it be a blu ray or hd dvd drive now because its a matter of time. Don't get me wrong I have had my 360 for 1 year and have had 0 problems. I just think they jumped the gun to beat sony when they launched the 360. It would of been better to see them release the core/premin with 1) a bigger hard drive 2) hdmi and 3) a next gen drive. In the long run that would of been better for Microsoft and the consumer.
Ya MS should have starter ed with 60 as the default drive at least with that 15GB to the OS 20GB for movies and crap and 20GB for game caching,since MS started the console on the low the games will have to meet some of its lower requirements altho DVD is not really a issue unless a lot of devs whip out and refuse to put a game on 2 discs

remove the filler from rez and its more like 14 well within a 2 discs ,again disc space is not critical yet in 3 years it can well be unless they find new comrpesstion/decompression method to make it a non issue till the 8th gen.

From the link it seems devs really have gotten lazy OMG putting a game on 2 discs its going to make me work ZOMG!!!

I mean really devs are going to get off their asses and make games for both the 360 and PS3 shine if that means understanding multi threading or how the PS3 talks to its multi SPEs or putting a game on more than one discs they are pretty much to blame for not wanting to go 2 discs.

Reading the forms over the game it seems a install DVD with the extra textures is doable but it seems the devs wont even try and make it work better on 360s with a HDD larger than 20GB,it seems this dev is lazy with the 360 like some or lazy with the PS3.

342.8.2007 10:16
Fenix88
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I agree Zippy that they are lazy. That's one reason their are very little good/great games. Look at the EA titles NCAA and Madden 07. Madden for the ps3 blew and NCAA was a let down on the 360. I could care less which consoles they are on just give the best possible game experience. I think the reason they don't want to do the 2 disc thing anymore is they can save more on production cost or whatever and profit more.

352.8.2007 10:32

Originally posted by Fenix88:
I agree Zippy that they are lazy. That's one reason their are very little good/great games. Look at the EA titles NCAA and Madden 07. Madden for the ps3 blew and NCAA was a let down on the 360. I could care less which consoles they are on just give the best possible game experience. I think the reason they don't want to do the 2 disc thing anymore is they can save more on production cost or whatever and profit more.
I would not say anymore not with the WII it uses DVD10s of all things (FYI double sided discs ) I think MS totally misunderstood where things were gong and sony over estimated,MS had a wake up call over game sizes
http://www.xboxfamily.com/news%20stories/HDD_Required.htm
the caching thing,they will be getting another wake up soemtime next year with there multi console titles needing 2 discs or being neutered to fit and thus losing fans over it I do not think they would be to foolish to suffer this for long.

IMO no system is worth more than 400 not with the disregard for quality and polish devs have now adays.

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"There is great buzz regarding different candidates running for the congress. There are total seven candidates who are running for the New York 13th congressional district seat. Presently the seat is held by Mr. Charles Rangel. Some of the most popular candidates for the seat are Allianza Dominicana, Adam Clayton Powell, Keith Wright, Adriano Espaillat, Suzan Johnson Cook, and Clyde Williams and yes Michael Gallagher. There is no doubt that all candidates want to grab success when it comes to occupying the seat. Mike Gallagher is also a candidate for the post. Now, the question arises here why Mike is running for the congress. There are different reasons behind the claims or slogan such as Keigth Wright Running For Congress. So, let's find out the reasons below why Mike has decided to contest for the seat.

New Yorkers Want Progress

This is the first and surely the key reason why Mike is running for congress. He has observed that people in New York are highly fed up with existing system. They want only change. They want to see things functioning within their budget. Since it is a hard task to accomplish for families living in New York with limited budget, Mike wants to do something for the betterment of everyone. However, there are other candidates too claiming to create big changes for the society such as Clyde Williams congress 2016, but Mike's claim has valid weight. It is a fact that people residing in the 13th congressional district want a leadership that can guide them through the real progress. Since Mike Gallagher has introduced an exclusive progress system, he is considered as the most potential candidate for the congress. However, there is great buzz regarding Keigth Wright running for congress, but the final result will be declared by the New Yorkers. So, wait and watch."
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"Crime Should Be Reduced

It is observed that common people in New York have got fed up with increasing crime rate. They just want to get it reduced as much as possible. This is another reason why Mike Gallagher is fighting for the New York 13th congressional district. Mike wants to reduce the rapidly increasing the crime in the city. For this, he has designed a plan that can help cops removing anti-social elements from the society. However, there is much roar about Clyde Williams congress 2016, but New Yorkers have decided to do something new. People in the city are willing to know about a leader who can reduce the crime rate to create a peaceful society.

Fundamental Facilities

Keith Wright running for congress doesn't mean that Mike is not attractive people towards him. Mike is very serious about a few things such as crime rate, progress and how to arrange most fundamental facilities for people in the jurisdiction. This might be a key reason why Mike Gallagher has determined to stand for New York 13th congressional district seat. He is ready to help people grabbing a lifestyle that they are always dreaming about."

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