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Free legal music downloads coming via SpiralFrog

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 09 Aug 2007 17:39 User comments (46)

Free legal music downloads coming via SpiralFrog SpiralFrog, the much delayed but unique free music download site seems to be finally on track for launch after the company said they sent invitation emails to a private group of beta testers.
The site, which is based on an ad-supported model, which makes the user watch ads while they wait for their music to download, should be ready to go live by the end of the year revealed the company.

To date, the site has signed Universal Music Group and will have over 700,000 songs at launch.

Hopefully the site will be a success and bring with it more major record labels and more free music for consumers.

Source:
Mashable

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46 user comments

19.8.2007 17:56

This is going to be awesome i really don't mind watching ads and downloading a song should be quick assuming this service isn't P2P so therefore it seems like every song you'd see an enjoyable 30 second ad.

29.8.2007 19:46

so wait wait let me get this straight all i have to do is listen to some commericial about this shampoo will give me an orgasm then i get a free song?

39.8.2007 19:51

lol yes that's what it says up top. you have to watch ads while your music downloads!

49.8.2007 20:38

Don't I ALREADY sort of do that? Target says "GOOD BUY" and I say "Hell no!"

Hell no! Hell no! They say Good buy and I say Hell no!

59.8.2007 20:48
WierdName
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Yay, now they can turn around and sue us for whatever reason they get their lawyers to find. Although it sounds interesting.

610.8.2007 0:29
fgamer
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I'm pretty sure this is how this will work:

1)"SpiralFrog" goes to advertisers and tells them how their site works and says it'll be huge.."there'll be millions of people watching your ads" (which will open their product up to more possible customers)...so the advertisers pay "Spiral Frog" for the ad space/commercials.

2) "SpiralFrog" goes to record labels and tell them that they have a new service that is ad generated and agrees to pay the record company some of the profit generated from the advertisers..which basically pays for the users who download from the service.

3) We get free music just from watching 1 or 2 minute ads.

710.8.2007 3:12
duckNrun
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until someone comes up with a download queue system for this and then starts the d/l and goes to bed to wake up with free music and no adverts actually watched lol

810.8.2007 8:02
Franco45
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Ducknrun said it right!

910.8.2007 10:27

Yeah that would be an awesome feeling to wake up and have a lot of free legal music, but anyways i would'nt mind watching ads until about a few days after till they piss me off. Anyways do you think they'll have good,new and popular music or just crappy music such as Netflix's watch now crappy movies?

1010.8.2007 10:47
WierdName
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My thoughts is that it may have some new music, but probably not as much. I don't know though.

1110.8.2007 10:59

Yah on their website it says they'll constantly update their music and it also says if you give them your email address you might be able to try it out earlier

1210.8.2007 11:02
WierdName
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Ya, I just went and looked around and it was listing some new music as the most popular downloads.

1310.8.2007 11:06

really, alright thanks i'm going to go check it out right now, and do you think the songs will be mp3 to be updated into ipods? Thanks!

1410.8.2007 11:10

Wait i couldn't find where it says popular music and this is still P2P from what it says somewhere on their website, we won't be able to download directly from their website and HAS ANYONE HERE ACTUALLY BEEN ABLE TO REGISTER AND CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE? If so tell us your experience there.

1510.8.2007 12:12
WierdName
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You have to be invited appearently. Go to the home page and type in your email address. Then wait for information of when the site will open up and/or maybe an invitation to join the beta beforehand. I made a sub-email and submitted it and maybe I'll get invited, I don't know. If, at the home page, you click register, it will take you to the registration page and on the side I saw a couple a top downloads list, a featured download, and a recommended download list. They each had somewhat newer music.

1610.8.2007 12:16

Yah i've already tried to register before but my email wasn't invited yet. Anyways thanks for telling me where the top downloads are, i guess they do have some good music. I'm partially excited!

1710.8.2007 15:21
SamNz
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it wouldnt bother me but even tho its free its prolly still got DRM lol

1817.8.2007 17:54

Sign me up. I am all for this.

1928.8.2007 22:56
WierdName
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Well I got in the site and downloaded some music. Very soon after (within minutes), I realized it has DRM in them. I hope someone makes a spiralfrog version of fairuse4wm.

2029.8.2007 8:48

Just got invited, ready to check it out.

2129.8.2007 13:00
WierdName
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I can confirm that with mirakagi and fairuse4wm, you CAN rip the DRM from the music. I did it just fine and converted to MP3 files.

EDIT- BTW, I used FairUse4WM version 1.3fix-2

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 29 Aug 2007 @ 13:38

2229.8.2007 13:21

Nice, Thanks for the great news!

2329.8.2007 15:37

Does anybody think this will get shout down because now you can take out the drm? This is more like a music renting service because of the drm either way it's free,easy, has no viruses and has a great selection of music! Also why is it called spiralfrog?

2429.8.2007 20:36
WierdName
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Originally posted by albino92:
Does anybody think this will get shout down because now you can take out the drm? This is more like a music renting service because of the drm either way it's free,easy, has no viruses and has a great selection of music! Also why is it called spiralfrog?
1. Who knows. Although Napster, Itunes, etc. are still in business and it's not like their music can't have the DRM removed.
2. Yes, it is free. Although, you can make it not a rental with the removal of the DRM.
3. Who knows what's with the name. Look on their site to see if they say anything about it.

EDIT- Grammer
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 29 Aug 2007 @ 20:37

Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
"Opinions are immunities to being told were wrong." - Relient K

2529.8.2007 21:59

Alright thanks and have you tried this out, i think it rocks! I haven't even seen any ads, downloads are a bit slower than p2p, but hey it's legal and free!

2630.8.2007 6:19
vegasNERD
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So are P2P sites like limewire not safe? Not for viruses, I mean, but from lawsuits? Is this new site just less frowned upon by the RIAA, and therefore safer to use as far as getting slapped w/ a suit? Serious questions.


Nerdy ain't easy but it sure is fun!

2730.8.2007 10:09

Yeah my cousin got caught with Limewire, you just need to not share your songs and you can't download like a lot of files at the same time.

2830.8.2007 16:47
fgamer
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I'm gonna try this service out now, I got an invite from an admin.

2930.8.2007 17:28

It's the best service i hope it doesn't get shut down.

3030.8.2007 17:45

Originally posted by WierdName:
I can confirm that with mirakagi and fairuse4wm, you CAN rip the DRM from the music. I did it just fine and converted to MP3 files.

EDIT- BTW, I used FairUse4WM version 1.3fix-2
Hey can you put some kind of tutorial on how to use this and put a link on where to download it thanks.

3130.8.2007 22:22
WierdName
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Originally posted by albino92:
Hey can you put some kind of tutorial on how to use this and put a link on where to download it thanks.
I don't know if I can get in trouble for posting a direct link but just search on your favorite site for fairuse4wm 1.3fix-2 and mirakagi. Or, you may only need to search for mirakagi because I got the fairuse4wm 1.3fix-2 in the same zip file. Mirakagi will recover more keys that are needed by fairuse4wm.

Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
"Opinions are immunities to being told were wrong." - Relient K

3230.8.2007 22:26

Alright thanks

3330.8.2007 22:45

Well i was able to find fairuse4wm but not mirakagi the only place you can get that is via torrent so i guess i'll have to do that.

3430.8.2007 23:18

Hey i downloaded it and it works like a charm. I just have a few questions and they might be stupid to you but i'm new to this whole drm stuff. Is fairuse4wm illegal and is the quality on the song equivalent to that of itunes plus drm-free music? And when itunes converts the songs it puts it into .m4a format (is that better than or equal to mp3s?) and it puts it into 128 kbps for the bitrate, is that good? And one more thing, is there any way spiralfrog can catch users doing this and ban thier membership? Thanks in advance. Also this is a perfect method for anyone who wants to try this.

1.Download all the music you want from spiralfrog
2.Convert with fairuse4wm to another folder
3.Open itunes and select open folder and then it will convert all your songs into itunes format (if you have thousands of free songs from spiralfrog leave your computer overnight)
4.Update to mp3 player and all songs will have album art and will be stored in itunes music folder in .m4a format and 128kbps.
5.Now you can delete your spiralfrog songs and the drm-free ones but DONT delete the ones in the itunes folder.

Have a good time downloading!

3530.8.2007 23:28

I researched more on itunes plus and it has twice the amount of bitrate than the spiralfrog songs or normal itunes songs, but 128 is fine and you can't even tell the difference from that and cd audio. So then i decided maybe i can upconvert the spiralfrog songs but you converting mp3s to higher bitrate will do nothing more than add space. But, maybe spiralfrog will come up with their own type of itunes plus where you have to watch click on ads to get drm free 256kbps songs.

3631.8.2007 11:47
WierdName
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The SpiralFrog tracks are constant(I think) at 190Kbs. 128Kbs is lesser than that so you are downgrading the quality by converting to that. You can't really tell the difference over standard, lesser quality headphones but you can tell the obvious difference between CD quality and a 128Kbs track on good headphones or over loud speakers. The 128Kbs track will start to sound choppy, crackly, kinda like an old record without the popping. CD audio quality will still sound clean though. If you are just using regular headphones that didn't cost some $50+ then you shouldn't really tell the difference. A 190Kbs is higher quality than the 128Kbs, but it does create a larger file size.


Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
"Opinions are immunities to being told were wrong." - Relient K

3731.8.2007 12:56

yeah i guess when itunes converts the songs to .m4a file it puts it into 128kbps but i couldn't tell the difference, so should i use a another converter so that it will stay at 196kbps or should i stay away from the trouble and have itunes do it for me? Thanks.

3831.8.2007 13:58
WierdName
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Well you can keep it at 128Kbs if you want. If you can't tell the difference on whatever your using to listen to it, and won't be playing it on anything of higher quality, then you can just leave it at that bitrate because you will have a smaller file. If you want to change it to another bitrate though, you should be able to in Itunes settings. Look around in the settings for conversion settings. And is it just me or should there be another thread for this stuff?

EDIT- Where would a SpiralFrog conversion support thread go anyways? For that matter, is it even allowed?

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 31 Aug 2007 @ 14:03

Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
"Opinions are immunities to being told were wrong." - Relient K

3931.8.2007 14:34

Alright thanks, well i just checked my spiralfrog downloads and they are at 128kbps so itunes doesn't downgrade it and i'm pretty sure i'll leave it at that. Also is fairuse4wm illegal?

4031.8.2007 15:00
WierdName
Inactive

I don't know if fairuse4wm is legal, but I'm thinking there is a good possibility is isn't considering it's "circumventing copy protection." As for the bitrate, I didn't know it was 128Kbs. You can just leave it at that because upgrading would just give you a bigger file yet the same quality.


Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
"Opinions are immunities to being told were wrong." - Relient K

4131.8.2007 16:16

alright thanks

4214.9.2007 21:06

Has anybody been checking out this site lately, if so what do you think about it? It doesn't seem too popular.

4314.9.2007 21:12
WierdName
Inactive

It's been ok for me. I have found myself gathering songs from other places but it had some stuff. It is also in it's pre-launch stage though so they may add more artists later.


Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
"Opinions are immunities to being told were wrong." - Relient K

4415.9.2007 10:36

Yah hopefully more people will start using it when it launches and it won't go out of business.

4528.9.2007 15:57

Hey, WierdName, how'd you convert to mp3? When I tried, it said something like "can't convert protected files without a license."

4628.9.2007 20:54
WierdName
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Originally posted by jondoh:
Hey, WierdName, how'd you convert to mp3? When I tried, it said something like "can't convert protected files without a license."
Well first I had to use FairUse4WM to actually remove the DRM before converting. Just search the net for FairUse4WM and mirakagi. You will use mirakagi to retrieve the keys that FU4WM will use to remove the DRM. The output WMA file you will then convert to MP3 with whatever program you want.

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