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PlayStation 3 passes "independent stress test" for durability

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 15 Aug 2007 15:21 User comments (58)

PlayStation 3 passes "independent stress test" for durability Sony America chief Dave Karraker has proudly noted on the official PlayStaion blog that the PlayStation 3 was put through an "independent stress test" by PS3 Vault and that it had passed with flying colors.
The test, entitled “How to kill a Ps3 Console” put the console through over 200 hours of operation in various adverse conditions that no gamer would ever have to endure.

The first part of the test placed the PS3 in a typical living room with regular temperatures and such. The test then ran the machine continuously for 108 hours switching between game playing and Blu-ray movie playback. "The only recorded anomaly was a slight vibration coming from the tray area which lasted approximately 20 seconds.”

The second part of the test placed the PS3 into the back of a freezer van where the temperature began at 50 degrees Farenheit and slowly dipped down to 0. “We noticed a slight sluggishness in playback once the temperature reached 0 degrees,” the test notes. “This was maintained for the last 24 hours, with 12 hours to go we thought we were going to crash with a sudden blackout to the screen, [but] this was tracked down to condensation on the cord for the screen.”

The final part of the test had the PS3 placed in a sauna where the temperatures fluctuated from 100 to 120 degrees Farenheit. “Strangely enough we thought this would prove to be the ultimate area to kill the console, and to our surprise the only incident we noticed was a slight burning smell that came in around 64hours at 110F,” read the test report. “The console was extremely hot when we finished the overall test but had come thru all environments with flying colours.”

After the test, the console was placed back into a normal environment setting and is still working perfectly.

In his blog, Karraker took one parting shot at the large failure rate of the rival Xbox 360, “A lot of noise has been made recently about the reliability issues of one of our competitor’s systems. So, not surprisingly, some of our more ambitious PlayStation faithful decided to run their own stress test on the PlayStation 3. They put it in a freezer at zero degrees for up to 108 hours and they put it in a sauna at 120 degrees for up to 64 hours — all the while running games and Blu-ray Disc movies on it. Did it fail? Nope. Like the Energizer Bunny, it kept going and going and going.”

Source:
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58 user comments

115.8.2007 15:31

These are the kinds of videos that need to be on YouTube. I would love to see a PS3 covered with icicles.

215.8.2007 15:42

Now if only Sega or Sony could produce some top tier games..Dark Cloud 3..Ico 2..Shadow of the Colossus 2..Silent Hill..sigh. Nowhere to be seen.

315.8.2007 15:46
nobrainer
Inactive

so it will last well in the museum of obsolete hardware!

415.8.2007 16:09

As with many other products one thing that helps everyone when things like this come out is simply one word: [b]competition[b]. If one console can last in such conditions, even ones that are not "typical" for the "average" gamer, then I am sure somewhere down the line the competing products may try to do the same.

515.8.2007 16:14

Try putting a game taht actually challenges the 8cell processor or the GPU, then it might just overheat, with just a poor array of games that hardly even touch the barrier of the processing power, it is pointless testing it with those games, u want to have games liek GoW and then try it on the ps3, a game that woudl severly challenge the ps3, just liek it has done with the 360 and caused soo many 360 deaths.

Playing a BR movie uses jack all power, and proabbly gives the ps3 a nice chance to cool down.

CPU's get a lot hotter then 120oF, thats like a normal computer CPU temp, heck when i run games mine onyl hits 40oC so this si a pathetic way to test it out, i'm sure the 360 CPU gets to voer 80oC

615.8.2007 16:26

ok, so it was tested in "envirnomental conditions" but was it tested with games that require alot processor or non stop useage for 200 hours straight without a break...

715.8.2007 16:33

people should start putting there xbox 360's in the freezer, might solve their overheating problems ;o)

815.8.2007 16:50

Why do the haters come to these posts if they hate the PS3 so much? When I don't like something I stay away from it.

On Topic.....
Developers need to stop being lazy and create a game the uses all the power of the PS3 and then test it again. Imagine how fast the 360 would blow up if there was a game that used all of its recourses. Or is that why they are blowing up?

Also... I wouldn't want to be the guy that is sitting in the freezer for 24 hours playing games. I wouldn't want to have to play in the sauna either but it sounds better than freezing my ass off.

915.8.2007 16:54
26r0cK
Inactive

lol not sure if ppl should put their xbox360 to the test..108hrs straight could lead to the ring of death :P lol jk..but its good to kno that the PS3 can endure those. Next up xbox360 and wii's turn.

1015.8.2007 16:55

lol i would want to see a xbox 360 do that lmffao

1115.8.2007 17:51

Was someone actually playing any games or was it just the intro screen repeating over and over? I would guess that BR playback would take quite a bit of the resources of the machine. HD playback is memory and processor intensive, ask anyone with an HT computer setup. Not that I think it would maximize resource usage for the PS3, but it's still a decent barometer for endurance. The fact that the laser diode did not fogg is a small miracle.

1215.8.2007 20:00

I would really have to disagree with this test.

one I don't really know what they did in the real enviroment.

But I have this too say if they have dogs and cats in the house one of each and at least 2.1 kids then it would be a viable test and if the hair of the animals didn't get it the the kid would. plus kids age 2 and 4 then 1 cat 1 dod maybe 24 hours in a real room with air then I would believe this.

1315.8.2007 20:13

the thing is they have no specifics of the test.

Really sony I know you read this and if you do I have one thing too say put cameras in a house after 6m months 1 dog 1 cat and 2 kids 2 and 4 and then you will have th environment too work with then give it too the people and see what happens with pet hair high temp fan no air and dog and cat hair if any ony can prove this test wrong do it after they mad they piece of crap mini PS2 I lost there respect and really want too wait too the forth generation, I loved nes and snes and psx hated nin64 thats when sony got me psx was me.

you do all realize all the 3rd gen systems were created 3 years before they came out so that means take off 2 years from the release thats when they realeased the realease date of the system.

please excuse me I am ventening and sorry.

I am a Nin child well maybe atari 2600 but don't know what age for what system for to be a child of that system does anyone I would like too know was 11 when I first got 2600 in 1982 so yes I am 26 and a video game person.

I have had a few to drink but really I would like too know what you think.

wolf1 on yahoo answers and you can't give me emails and messages but you can respond too my post.

1415.8.2007 20:56

i see some people saying that they should have tryed putting a game on the ps3 that will use alot of the processor. because gow killed alot of 360's and stuff... well if gow was out for ps3... i would still be playing it online right now lol. my 360 broke and i had the ps3 longer. i had it 2 says before launch... i had 360 for 3 month. just got xbox live. and all i did was play GOW and lisend to music. now i use my ps3. and its silent... no noise. plus ps3 will get a game that will use everything the ps3 has... it is something that xbox wont have....METAL GEAR 4!!!!!!!!!!!...
oh and if xbox went on this test. just ejecting the disc 10 times will cause the ring of DEATH!!!!!!!!!!

1515.8.2007 21:07

Although I've viewed Sony products as high quality, I've never considered them reliable. But this is impressive. I remember being surprised watching the "smash my ps3" video, noting how tough the thing was. If there aren't any DRE's or something popping up everywhere 2 years into the ps3's life, than kudos to Sony.

1615.8.2007 21:18

hahaha.....

i would believe this sh8....but i doubt

i bet the first thing was not pass the test is the f****ing (blue ray) LENS

second one the motherboard

third one the useless games

go ahead Xbox360..... in ur place walk PS3

1715.8.2007 21:52

I would really too know how it rally is in real world test and I mean real world.

Because if I took a remodled small ps2 piece of crap it would last a week in my brothers house 1 cat 1 dog 1 4 year old and thats it.

1815.8.2007 22:58

so that explains why whenever i go to walmart i see the display ps3 always frozen. ahhhhhhhhhhhhh right. i call BS on this article.

1915.8.2007 23:03

Originally posted by bzkilla:
plus ps3 will get a game that will use everything the ps3 has... it is something that xbox wont have....METAL GEAR 4!!!!!!!!!!!...

who cares really about metalgear. once u beat it. there is no point in playing it again. cause unless u have the memory retention of a glass of water. playing metal gear thru single player campaign a second time is boring. i still never played the Acid Series twice, same with Snake eater and sons of liberty. and even the first one.
i never got into portable ops tho.

u might wanna play it like 3 years later just to remember that u paid 60 bux for a game that took more that 3 years to make that u beat in 3 days.
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2015.8.2007 23:21

ZOMG PD jive,do not listen to teh man!!

Frankly lets see what the last of 08 brings I am waiting for the lens units to start dieing :P

2116.8.2007 0:00

Quote:
Originally posted by bzkilla:
plus ps3 will get a game that will use everything the ps3 has... it is something that xbox wont have....METAL GEAR 4!!!!!!!!!!!...

who cares really about metalgear. once u beat it. there is no point in playing it again. cause unless u have the memory retention of a glass of water. playing metal gear thru single player campaign a second time is boring. i still never played the Acid Series twice, same with Snake eater and sons of liberty. and even the first one.
i never got into portable ops tho.

u might wanna play it like 3 years later just to remember that u paid 60 bux for a game that took more that 3 years to make that u beat in 3 days.
I love your quate thank ou for that and I believe I am the same after 12 too 3 days you get the same deal the end and what then that need a game tha is different everytime you play right or I may be be wrong.

2216.8.2007 0:07

I dunno you can go with a diffrent paly style to help play threw it again MGS 1 offered 2 endings I do not know abotu 2 and 3 since I have yet to fool with them...

2316.8.2007 1:41

f*** you man!! Metal Gear is the GREATEST 3d console game of all time.

2416.8.2007 1:51

Originally posted by Dasdef:
f*** you man!! Metal Gear is the GREATEST 3d console game of all time.
ya the PSX MGS 1 is great and awesome the remake less so because they raped the music 2 is so so 3 is a better I guess...

2516.8.2007 2:12
fgamer
Inactive

Well I must admit that Sony out together one heck of a reliable console.

2616.8.2007 2:28

I love the 360 owners just because their consoles end up breaking they have to come on here and try to justify not owning a ps3 lol.

2716.8.2007 2:29

Originally posted by fgamer:
Well I must admit that Sony out together one heck of a reliable console.
I'll believe it when 09 rolls around and there are not rumors of "issues" with the unit.

2816.8.2007 2:34

Originally posted by mclukeyb:
I love the 360 owners just because their consoles end up breaking they have to come on here and try to justify not owning a ps3 lol.
I dont have a 360,and the current line up of 360 games pretty much beats the soacks off the PS3 line up a of half of which are poorly optimized for the system, its sad to see the PS3 owners defend a 600$+ system when its not worth the price yet.

2916.8.2007 2:47

Quote:
Originally posted by mclukeyb:
I love the 360 owners just because their consoles end up breaking they have to come on here and try to justify not owning a ps3 lol.
I dont have a 360,and the current line up of 360 games pretty much beats the soacks off the PS3 line up a of half of which are poorly optimized for the system, its sad to see the PS3 owners defend a 600$+ system when its not worth the price yet.
Yeah the 360 does have better games at the moment but this thread is not talking about games it is talking about reliability!!!!

3016.8.2007 2:55

Originally posted by wolf123:
the thing is they have no specifics of the test.

Really sony I know you read this and if you do I have one thing too say put cameras in a house after 6m months 1 dog 1 cat and 2 kids 2 and 4 and then you will have th environment too work with then give it too the people and see what happens with pet hair high temp fan no air and dog and cat hair if any ony can prove this test wrong do it after they mad they piece of crap mini PS2 I lost there respect and really want too wait too the forth generation, I loved nes and snes and psx hated nin64 thats when sony got me psx was me.

you do all realize all the 3rd gen systems were created 3 years before they came out so that means take off 2 years from the release thats when they realeased the realease date of the system.

please excuse me I am ventening and sorry.

I am a Nin child well maybe atari 2600 but don't know what age for what system for to be a child of that system does anyone I would like too know was 11 when I first got 2600 in 1982 so yes I am 26 and a video game person.

I have had a few to drink but really I would like too know what you think.

wolf1 on yahoo answers and you can't give me emails and messages but you can respond too my post.
No offence, but it's not sonys fault if your kids break it, or your dogs hair get in it. Accept some responsibility yourself. Eg clean it if it's getting clogged with hairs.

3116.8.2007 3:52

I wonder if it could endure the sledgehammer test?

3216.8.2007 4:46

Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by mclukeyb:
I love the 360 owners just because their consoles end up breaking they have to come on here and try to justify not owning a ps3 lol.
I dont have a 360,and the current line up of 360 games pretty much beats the soacks off the PS3 line up a of half of which are poorly optimized for the system, its sad to see the PS3 owners defend a 600$+ system when its not worth the price yet.
Yeah the 360 does have better games at the moment but this thread is not talking about games it is talking about reliability!!!!
well the PS2 was running fine till the lens issues poped up and it was almost 10-20% hell even the 10 or 12 revision had soem issues with lens,so I will wait and see how it oges but so far they have put more effort into the hardware,

3316.8.2007 5:07

Okay, so my Xbox gets hotter than Pop-Tart fresh out of the toaster, but IT STILL WORKS and I have 5 friends who own one and have never had issues, many of them launch consoles (including mine.) So needless to say, it irks me when someone runs their mouth about problems. The same people say that "I love the 360 owners just because their consoles end up breaking they have to come on here and try to justify not owning a PS3" when in reality, most of you that are bashing 360 don't own one and have no concept as to what the "rings" or any other "failure" looks like.

Zippy said it best about the PS3's quality of games not owning up to the price of the system. All you can do with the PS3 is watch an expensive Blu-Ray movie (more Sony shrill) or sit on your butt and wait for the "killer app" Metal Gear 4 to land on PS3. 360 owners will just wait a few extra months until Metal Gear comes to Xbox, something they can afford to do because there will actually be games for them to play in the interim.

Yeah, I know MGS4 is "exclusive", I've read all the articles that go either way on the story, but for all the R&D money being sunk into developing MGS4, do you really believe it won't pop up on another console? That's like believing Santa eats the cookies you leave out for him on Christmas Eve.

3416.8.2007 6:03

Originally posted by SProdigy:
Okay, so my Xbox gets hotter than Pop-Tart fresh out of the toaster, but IT STILL WORKS and I have 5 friends who own one and have never had issues, many of them launch consoles (including mine.) So needless to say, it irks me when someone runs their mouth about problems. The same people say that "I love the 360 owners just because their consoles end up breaking they have to come on here and try to justify not owning a PS3" when in reality, most of you that are bashing 360 don't own one and have no concept as to what the "rings" or any other "failure" looks like.

Zippy said it best about the PS3's quality of games not owning up to the price of the system. All you can do with the PS3 is watch an expensive Blu-Ray movie (more Sony shrill) or sit on your butt and wait for the "killer app" Metal Gear 4 to land on PS3. 360 owners will just wait a few extra months until Metal Gear comes to Xbox, something they can afford to do because there will actually be games for them to play in the interim.

Yeah, I know MGS4 is "exclusive", I've read all the articles that go either way on the story, but for all the R&D money being sunk into developing MGS4, do you really believe it won't pop up on another console? That's like believing Santa eats the cookies you leave out for him on Christmas Eve.
Once again this thread is not about the games its about the hardware durability, im not questioning the xbox does have better games atm, hell its been out longer, if i wanted a 360 i could easily walk to a shop right now and buy one, but with a 30% fail rate I think i will sit tight with my ps3 and see next year if its worth me picking up the xbox. I dont try and diss xbox its a great system and once they iron out the bugs i will prob buy one.

3516.8.2007 7:12

Quote:
Originally posted by SProdigy:
Okay, so my Xbox gets hotter than Pop-Tart fresh out of the toaster, but IT STILL WORKS and I have 5 friends who own one and have never had issues, many of them launch consoles (including mine.) So needless to say, it irks me when someone runs their mouth about problems. The same people say that "I love the 360 owners just because their consoles end up breaking they have to come on here and try to justify not owning a PS3" when in reality, most of you that are bashing 360 don't own one and have no concept as to what the "rings" or any other "failure" looks like.

Zippy said it best about the PS3's quality of games not owning up to the price of the system. All you can do with the PS3 is watch an expensive Blu-Ray movie (more Sony shrill) or sit on your butt and wait for the "killer app" Metal Gear 4 to land on PS3. 360 owners will just wait a few extra months until Metal Gear comes to Xbox, something they can afford to do because there will actually be games for them to play in the interim.

Yeah, I know MGS4 is "exclusive", I've read all the articles that go either way on the story, but for all the R&D money being sunk into developing MGS4, do you really believe it won't pop up on another console? That's like believing Santa eats the cookies you leave out for him on Christmas Eve.
Once again this thread is not about the games its about the hardware durability, im not questioning the xbox does have better games atm, hell its been out longer, if i wanted a 360 i could easily walk to a shop right now and buy one, but with a 30% fail rate I think i will sit tight with my ps3 and see next year if its worth me picking up the xbox. I dont try and diss xbox its a great system and once they iron out the bugs i will prob buy one.

The issue with the PS2 lens was due to it being dirty. I have opened plenty and fixed the issue and it was due to all kinds of dirty and hair and whatever can get caught in the fan and lens. You cant blame any company for your own personal environment. Thats like sitting your 360 in front of a heater then calling M$ saying they sold you a piece of poopie doo.

3616.8.2007 8:09

I think we all can agree that the 360 would excel given the freezer test :-P

3716.8.2007 8:23

Originally posted by emugamer:
I think we all can agree that the 360 would excel given the freezer test :-P
But it would melt all the ice in the freezer....

3816.8.2007 10:56

Quote:
Originally posted by emugamer:
I think we all can agree that the 360 would excel given the freezer test :-P
But it would melt all the ice in the freezer....
Then what would we have to keep the beer cold?

3916.8.2007 11:24

Sorry wrong quote earlier i meant to quote Zippy

4016.8.2007 11:38

Quote:
Originally posted by wolf123:
the thing is they have no specifics of the test.

Really sony I know you read this and if you do I have one thing too say put cameras in a house after 6m months 1 dog 1 cat and 2 kids 2 and 4 and then you will have th environment too work with then give it too the people and see what happens with pet hair high temp fan no air and dog and cat hair if any ony can prove this test wrong do it after they mad they piece of crap mini PS2 I lost there respect and really want too wait too the forth generation, I loved nes and snes and psx hated nin64 thats when sony got me psx was me.

you do all realize all the 3rd gen systems were created 3 years before they came out so that means take off 2 years from the release thats when they realeased the realease date of the system.

please excuse me I am ventening and sorry.

I am a Nin child well maybe atari 2600 but don't know what age for what system for to be a child of that system does anyone I would like too know was 11 when I first got 2600 in 1982 so yes I am 26 and a video game person.

I have had a few to drink but really I would like too know what you think.

wolf1 on yahoo answers and you can't give me emails and messages but you can respond too my post.
No offence, but it's not sonys fault if your kids break it, or your dogs hair get in it. Accept some responsibility yourself. Eg clean it if it's getting clogged with hairs.
yes we do clean the hair and stuff off it but if you know about cat hair and dog hair once the hair is in the house it will not go away even if you vacumm everyday.

I was just trying too say it should have had more details.

4116.8.2007 11:44
japhy
Inactive

Must say my PS3 never shuts off. No problems yet, have had it since Feb.

My PS2 been working since 2001 never died, just sold it and 7 old games for 100 bucks.

Should have kept it and brought the PS2 to work.

Just wait, the games will come for the PS3, xBox games sucked for most of the first year to.

4216.8.2007 15:41

sorta reminds me of the G4tv console drop test. lol @ the ps2

4316.8.2007 15:59

I'm sure a lot of people remember me. I've posted on Afterdawn.com a lot within the past couple of months

I own both consoles (PS3 & Xbox360). My Xbox360 has broken down (again!) I requested they replace it with one of the new 360's that're being shipped to retail stores (the Premium one's come with HDMI and upgraded heatsink.) I just shipped it back via UPS so we'll see what happends.

Even though I have a PS3, gaming just isn't the same without my 360. I'm such a huge lover of online gameplay that my PS3 just doesn't stack up. Hopefully Sony will change that in 2008-2009. Sad thing is, I paid for the console in 2006 and so far the only game worthy of playing is Ninja Gaiden: Sigma which came out on Xbox years ago. And yes, it's the same game (with all the Hurricane Packs slapped in) with a little visual upgrade. But hey, it's a great game either way.

I haven't had any problems with my PS3 other than having no games to play on it. All the games that are JUST NOW coming out for the PS3 have been out for Xbox last year and they look and play the same so why buy 'em? I did, however, buy the movie 300 on Blu-Ray 'cause I couldn't find the HD-DVD version anywhere (BestBuy/Target/WalMart/etc...). I plan on purchasing the HD-DVD player for my 360 at some point. I like that it has both formats (Hi-Def and regular DVD version) on the same disc. That way I can watch it anywhere in my home.

And honestly, it's still kinda weird that the PS3's controller has no rumble and that once the battery decides to stop charging, I'll have to buy another controller 'cause the batteries aren't replaceable like they are on the 360.

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4416.8.2007 17:35

The batteries are replaceable. Read you manual. Step by step guide on how to replace the battery if it won’t charge anymore.

4517.8.2007 0:49

Perhaps MS should take a few lessons from Sony when it comes to engineering.

as for the 'poor' lineup of PS3 titles, it has more interesting games than the 360 in less than half the same time, at least for my taste in gaming. So far:
Xbox360:
- Trusty Bell - Chopin no Yume
- Blue Dragon
- Bioshock

PS3:
- Resistance - fall of man
- Minna no Golf 5
- Ninja Gaiden Sigma
- Tekken 5
- Folk's Soul

See? All this talk about game lineups is very relative and depends on the tastes of each gamer.

But at least I know the PS3 won't die on my like the 360 does on 1/3 of it's owners.

4617.8.2007 1:32

Originally posted by kyo28:
Perhaps MS should take a few lessons from Sony when it comes to engineering.

as for the 'poor' lineup of PS3 titles, it has more interesting games than the 360 in less than half the same time, at least for my taste in gaming. So far:
Xbox360:
- Trusty Bell - Chopin no Yume
- Blue Dragon
- Bioshock

PS3:
- Resistance - fall of man
- Minna no Golf 5
- Ninja Gaiden Sigma
- Tekken 5
- Folk's Soul

See? All this talk about game lineups is very relative and depends on the tastes of each gamer.

But at least I know the PS3 won't die on my like the 360 does on 1/3 of it's owners.
Haha! I'm not sure which country you're from. I've never heard of "Folk's Soul or Trusty Bell?" From what I've read (from various publications) Tekken 5 looks and plays better on the 360 and it has online multiplayer capabilities, something the PS3 version doesn't have. Also, Blue Dragon is garbage. It's something Microsoft added to please Japan, why? I don't know. It's not like Japan is capable of buying 10 million consoles. USA and Europe are the largest buyers of foreign goods. I have Resistance: Fall of Man and it's nothing compared to GEARS OF WAR. Graphically or playability wise, it just doesn't stand up. Bio Shock looks interesting. The demo is available for download via xbox live. Xbox live is sooooo much better than Sony's online service. They only have Sony Pictures trailers for download and very minimal about of game demo's for download.

It's obvious you only have a PS3 and probably own a PS2. Don't get me wrong, they're both great consoles but seeing how I've had the opportunity to own both consoles, even though my 360 is in the shop being repaired (haha!) it wins hands with regards to the cohesiveness & playability of the xbox360.

Sony built a badd-ass sports car with no fuel to drive it. Sure it looks great, all shiny and black with cute bells and whistles but all it can do is sit in the garage and wait 'til 2008-2009 when fuel (i.e. better games) arrive.

4717.8.2007 4:06

Originally posted by kishan73:
It's not like Japan is capable of buying 10 million consoles.
Actually your wrong Japan & U.S. is the two biggest gaming market til PS2 was born.But Eur sales of the PS2 didn't get strong until the back end of PS2 life cycle.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4640

Sony sold 10 million PS2 in Japan in 2 years.

Originally posted by kishan73:
I have Resistance: Fall of Man and it's nothing compared to GEARS OF WAR. Graphically or playability wise, it just doesn't stand up
Graphically i would say better but game play no way R.F.O.M got better reviews in Gaming mags because of its playability.I have played both & i can say that R.F.O.M is smoother than G.O.W. is it a better game? i would say its not but G.O.W isn't that much better than R.F.O.M.I wonder how many 360 fans feel cheated knowing that the full version of G.O.W is coming to PC this Nov.

Originally posted by kishan73:
Xbox live is sooooo much better than Sony's online service. They only have Sony Pictures trailers for download and very minimal about of game demo's for download.
A bit premature don't you think because 360 fans was bitching & moaning this time last year when LIVE sucked for 7 or 8 months.Plus why would anyone have a issue with PSN when they're not paying for anything.Plus HOME is coming this fall which i think was one of the best idea from Sony.

Quote:
It's obvious you only have a PS3 and probably own a PS2. Don't get me wrong, they're both great consoles but seeing how I've had the opportunity to own both consoles, even though my 360 is in the shop being repaired (haha!) it wins hands with regards to the cohesiveness & playability of the xbox360.
I have owned both consoles i can say that the 360 is a good console for now but the future doesn't looked promising to the 360.There are issues that the 360 will require owner to have a HD in future gaming.

Microsoft announced on Monday that it would soon allow MMO developers to require hard drive space when playing games on Xbox 360 despite the console maker's previous denial of such claims.

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=129068

There is also the issues with 360 having a dvd-rom drive.

Epic president Mark Rein said on Tuesday that Unreal Tournament 3 for Xbox 360 will likely have less game content than its PS3 counterpart due to Microsoft's limiting disc size.

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=129288

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=27675

I would say that the 360 future is looking real dim right now.I think we have seen the Best from M$.
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4817.8.2007 8:10

The 360 is the HD console to own right now with the games that are available and the online experience is second to none.
The PS3 will be the HD console to own late next year or even 09 when it wil be cheaper to buy,more quality games that might use the CELL and the Blu-Ray disk to the full....one hopes!

4917.8.2007 16:11

Quote:
Originally posted by kishan73:
It's not like Japan is capable of buying 10 million consoles.
Actually your wrong Japan & U.S. is the two biggest gaming market til PS2 was born.But Eur sales of the PS2 didn't get strong until the back end of PS2 life cycle.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4640

Sony sold 10 million PS2 in Japan in 2 years.

Originally posted by kishan73:
I have Resistance: Fall of Man and it's nothing compared to GEARS OF WAR. Graphically or playability wise, it just doesn't stand up
Graphically i would say better but game play no way R.F.O.M got better reviews in Gaming mags because of its playability.I have played both & i can say that R.F.O.M is smoother than G.O.W. is it a better game? i would say its not but G.O.W isn't that much better than R.F.O.M.I wonder how many 360 fans feel cheated knowing that the full version of G.O.W is coming to PC this Nov.

Originally posted by kishan73:
Xbox live is sooooo much better than Sony's online service. They only have Sony Pictures trailers for download and very minimal about of game demo's for download.
A bit premature don't you think because 360 fans was bitching & moaning this time last year when LIVE sucked for 7 or 8 months.Plus why would anyone have a issue with PSN when they're not paying for anything.Plus HOME is coming this fall which i think was one of the best idea from Sony.

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It's obvious you only have a PS3 and probably own a PS2. Don't get me wrong, they're both great consoles but seeing how I've had the opportunity to own both consoles, even though my 360 is in the shop being repaired (haha!) it wins hands with regards to the cohesiveness & playability of the xbox360.
I have owned both consoles i can say that the 360 is a good console for now but the future doesn't looked promising to the 360.There are issues that the 360 will require owner to have a HD in future gaming.

Microsoft announced on Monday that it would soon allow MMO developers to require hard drive space when playing games on Xbox 360 despite the console maker's previous denial of such claims.

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=129068

There is also the issues with 360 having a dvd-rom drive.

Epic president Mark Rein said on Tuesday that Unreal Tournament 3 for Xbox 360 will likely have less game content than its PS3 counterpart due to Microsoft's limiting disc size.

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=129288

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=27675

I would say that the 360 future is looking real dim right now.I think we have seen the Best from M$.

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Hey NexGen76,

I like how you broke down my debate with several slick remarks and biased websites (haha!)

Seriously though, if Resistance was even remarkably close, why didn't it even win at leaste 2 awards? GEARS won so many awards from so many different affiliations it's ridiculous.

Secondly, the diffence in game content is going to be marginal. Meaning, sure, the Blu-Ray disc offers more storage space, but not for game content but CG animations and that's about it.

As far as the new content for GEARS coming to PC. It was created for the PC with the new 10 series graphics card. Also, the new content is for Microsoft 'cause they want to increase PC sales (which are in a slump 'cause of the new PS3 & Xbox360, not to mention the Wii too).

Oh, you mention Sony's new "Home?" I'm sorry bro, but that $#!^'s gonna be silly. What? I get to make my own condo and ask my friends to check it out? So what?

Do you have an Xbox360? If not, go buy one. They're cheaper now. Pimp it out and actually GIVE IT A CHANCE. Then compare it to your PS3. I promise, you'll understand then. Until then, you're just a Sony Fan Boy blowing your bugle horn!!

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5017.8.2007 17:56
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You gotta love this guy nexgen76 you are a m$ hater.i have seen some of your anti m$ post all over this place and it is really your choice to love sony but some of us like M$ is that ok with you.and just for the record gears of war won 6 awards.at G phoria and it sold more being that its more than 10 million 360s out there and only 4.5 million ps3s.no doubt the games for the ps3 will get better.this should be on hell of a console war sit back and enjoy the ride and stop bashing the 360 its a good console.

5117.8.2007 18:52

Originally posted by kishan73:
Secondly, the diffence in game content is going to be marginal. Meaning, sure, the Blu-Ray disc offers more storage space, but not for game content but CG animations and that's about it.
Oh really i guess you didn't read the link did you? Let me refresh you.

Epic president Mark Rein said on Tuesday that Unreal Tournament 3 for Xbox 360 will likely have less game content than its PS3 counterpart due to Microsoft's limiting disc size.

Thats the guy behind G.O.W. telling you that the whole game not going to fix your 360.Read the link because thats not a rumor it coming st8 from his mouth not someone else.Also the size of Game isn't content only Heavenly Sword audio which is said to be the best in any game ever made take up 10gigs alone.Because Blu-Ray offer more space don't mean more content.But it does mean that game dev's can make better games & have more room for better ideas for gaming without restriction.


Originally posted by saltynuts:
You gotta love this guy nexgen76 you are a m$ hater.i have seen some of your anti m$ post all over this place and it is really your choice to love sony but some of us like M$ is that ok with you.and just for the record gears of war won 6 awards.at G phoria and it sold more being that its more than 10 million 360s out there and only 4.5 million ps3s.no doubt the games for the ps3 will get better.this should be on hell of a console war sit back and enjoy the ride and stop bashing the 360 its a good console.
You can't read can you i never bash the 360 on any tread i have wrote on this site.I have alot of doubts about the system but i have never Bash it.

Originally posted by Nexgen76:
I have owned both consoles i can say that the 360 is a good console for now but the future doesn't looked promising to the 360
That looks like i really bashed the 360 don't it.Remember reading is fundamental.
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5217.8.2007 22:03

This is NON-news.


Every product ever sold counts as an "independent stress test for durability."

5318.8.2007 9:15

its nice to see vitriol coming from fan boys...(in this case kishan73 and saltynuts)

NexGen76 only questions the games that will be on the system (if you can't tell the 360 has mostly PC style games you need...a lot of help...) and he questions the fialrate he dose not like such a high fail rate no one should and no open should defend it,altho I would surmise the "low" price of the 360 is the reason for its fail rate....

I for one see the PS3 as bloated and poorly priced,made even(if there was a real 300$ core unit I would not be as annoyed)

still the potential of the PS3 is in doubt to how well it can do,I think it can do well but only in the long run and for now its littered with poorly optimized games.

still when the 64nm chips come in for the 360 I will get that next year and wait till 09 to worry abotu a PS3 thats when price and games will be at tis best, for now I wont 2 wiis ^_~.




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5418.8.2007 10:39
saltynuts
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No Zippy you are wrong iam not a fanboy and no ps3 basher.i just enjoy playing cool games and if the 360 has the games thats where iam but on the flip side if the ps3 had the games then thats for me. so you see console fanboy no.fan of great games yes.i really dont need a machine that can fight in iraq and fly jets just play games.

5518.8.2007 10:46

Originally posted by saltynuts:
No Zippy you are wrong iam not a fanboy and no ps3 basher.i just enjoy playing cool games and if the 360 has the games thats where iam but on the flip side if the ps3 had the games then thats for me. so you see console fanboy no.fan of great games yes.i really dont need a machine that can fight in iraq and fly jets just play games.
Then instead of sounding like a fanboy when you diss one side write a couple more sentanaces stating why they all suck or not :P

the PS3 is to bloated and to costly games that work well on it are far every other game on it,newer games will sue the system ebtter but tis still 15 months off from being in a palce where I would put 400 to it.

I will get a 360 sometime next year when the 64nm chips are in them.

the wii I want this year >> but i dun think I can afford it >>

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5619.8.2007 20:45

So could i put this in antartica and then still paly it. lol :) It's good to see for the price it is set at it is a durable machine.

5720.8.2007 2:13

Originally posted by borhan9:
So could i put this in antartica and then still paly it. lol :) It's good to see for the price it is set at it is a durable machine.
the 360 is a easy bake oven, antartica would be great for it Argentina less so :P

5830.12.2007 14:26
ArchMagus
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I own an XBOX 360, and the three rings of death are pretty self-explanatory: when you have the three rings, your system won't work. You don't have to own a 360 to comprehend that fact. I'm glad that this issue has been brought out in the open. Microsoft should be exposed to the world for the shoddy system they've constructed, and if that means going into to detail about the PS3's superior durability, so be it. I can still remember a time when PS2's weren't particularly reliable either.

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