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PS3 closing the gap on the Wii in Japan

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 03 Nov 2007 16:04 User comments (38)

PS3 closing the gap on the Wii in Japan According to Enterbrain data figures, the Nintendo Wii outsold the Sony PlayStation 3 2-to-1 in Japan for the month of October as compared to just four months ago, when the Wii was outselling the PS3 6-to-1.
110,415 Wii units were sold in October in Japan compared to 47,183 PS3 units.

The higher PS3 sales can mostly be attributed to a stronger lineup of games as well as recent price cuts of the console. The narrowing sales lead must be a welcome sign for Sony's game business, which just posted an operating loss of 96.7 billion yen ($841.8 million USD) for the period of July-September.

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13.11.2007 16:25
BIGnewb
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same thing happened to the ps2 in the beginning so no surprises here.sony is making a comeback.it was for a long time actually check out these old stats http://www.cubed3.com/news/8898/1/Nintendo

23.11.2007 16:29

sony can only go so low, the money lose will be to great. nintendo can go lower. no worries for nintendo

33.11.2007 17:28

wake me when sony comes within 4 million units of the WII total sales thats only when they will be closing the gap....

43.11.2007 19:54

"Closing the Gap" is sort of a misleading headline. The Wii is still outselling the ps3, and the gap is still widening, just at a slower rate. It's like calculus all over again.

53.11.2007 20:09
hxcart
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How can that be closing the gap??????
The wii is still selling just over twice as much as the PS3 which was the case the first month the wii was released, at this rate the gap never closes, the margin between the wii and PS3 will actually get wider. Ok wii sales have dropped in japan but it's still much higher than the PS3 whose sales are stagnant and don't seem to have change much for many months 10k a week has been pretty standard in fact it's been quite a bit higher than that before. People want to see the Wii fail, so keep making stupid statements like this. Maybe it will help in it's eventual doom.
The stupidest thing that people do is wait around to see what console is the most popular and then they get it. Why not just get the one that you'll enjoy the most and relax, who cares which one's sold the most, because mostly they just want your money.

63.11.2007 20:20

Originally posted by hxcart:
How can that be closing the gap??????
The wii is still selling just over twice as much as the PS3 which was the case the first month the wii was released, at this rate the gap never closes, the margin between the wii and PS3 will actually get wider. Ok wii sales have dropped in japan but it's still much higher than the PS3 whose sales are stagnant and don't seem to have change much for many months 10k a week has been pretty standard in fact it's been quite a bit higher than that before. People want to see the Wii fail, so keep making stupid statements like this. Maybe it will help in it's eventual doom.
The stupidest thing that people do is wait around to see what console is the most popular and then they get it. Why not just get the one that you'll enjoy the most and relax, who cares which one's sold the most, because mostly they just want your money.
whoever is selling the best has a higher change of offering better games.

73.11.2007 20:39

Think about it this way: PS3 sales have tripled in Japan. Or the Wii sales have been 1/3 but I kinda doubt that.

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84.11.2007 0:59
vinny13
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Originally posted by oofRome:
"Closing the Gap" is sort of a misleading headline. The Wii is still outselling the ps3, and the gap is still widening, just at a slower rate. It's like calculus all over again.
How is the gap widening when the Wii to PS3 ratio went from 6:1 to 2:1?

2:1 is still not that great, but its a big improvement from 6:1.

94.11.2007 1:29

As i stated months ago the holiday season will tell the story in the coming months. People always go crazy during this time of year and get desperate to get their kids and selves systems and games so come Jan 1 2008 thats where you gonna see if Sony or whoever is either losing ground or taking over.

104.11.2007 4:59
Lidawano
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Just you wait until March '08. The PS3's sales will skyrocket because all the GOOD games are coming out in March.

114.11.2007 8:17

The gap is closing because the gamers already have the wii and dont need to buy a second one.

124.11.2007 8:50
ali2007
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lower the price of ps3 i am buying it

134.11.2007 10:17
vinny13
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Originally posted by ali2007:
lower the price of ps3 i am buying it
They did...

144.11.2007 10:17
vinny13
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oops...

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154.11.2007 10:17
vinny13
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oops...

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164.11.2007 11:27

The "gap" is narrowing. Instead of selling 500% more consoles, the Wii is "only" selling 100% more console than the PS3 in Japan. What else are they going to buy, an Xbox 360?!

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174.11.2007 13:07
alen155
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ok buddies!!!!
i think that $ony didn't miss the ps3 !!!
what about if they make a better version like...they did that on the the ps2:--->ps2 slim
loook!!! wii doesn't have so much options for playing like PS3 only 'cause ps3 is not cheap that wii is doesn't means that the ps3 is not that good!!!
what abuot the ps3 add-ons? thint on that!!!
ps3 is better than wii there is no money that counts!!!

184.11.2007 21:11

Great news because i can't find a 40g PS3 anywhere here.

194.11.2007 21:23
vinny13
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Originally posted by BoSoxs07:
Great news because i can't find a 40g PS3 anywhere here.
Have they been released yet?

205.11.2007 0:42

Originally posted by vinny13:
Originally posted by oofRome:
"Closing the Gap" is sort of a misleading headline. The Wii is still outselling the ps3, and the gap is still widening, just at a slower rate. It's like calculus all over again.
How is the gap widening when the Wii to PS3 ratio went from 6:1 to 2:1?

2:1 is still not that great, but its a big improvement from 6:1.

Yes but the gap between total sales has still widened...

215.11.2007 1:48

Quote:
Originally posted by vinny13:
Originally posted by oofRome:
"Closing the Gap" is sort of a misleading headline. The Wii is still outselling the ps3, and the gap is still widening, just at a slower rate. It's like calculus all over again.
How is the gap widening when the Wii to PS3 ratio went from 6:1 to 2:1?

2:1 is still not that great, but its a big improvement from 6:1.

Yes but the gap between total sales has still widened...
So what, people are buying more consoles, just because there are more consoles being sold in general doesnt make "the headline misleading" in any way. the ratio gap closed from 6:1 to 2:1, it does not matter whether five consoles were sold or 500,000 where sold, the ratio closed in, so there were more wiis sold as well as there were more ps3's sold. arguing for total sales is pointless as well as childish.

225.11.2007 2:09

how is it pointless.. and what the hell do you see that makes it childish? childish is such a completely wrong word to use.

its a statistical fact that is perfectly valid. i don't think total sales is relevant when talking about sale trends, but it is definitely a valid statement.

235.11.2007 3:23

Quote:
Originally posted by BoSoxs07:
Great news because i can't find a 40g PS3 anywhere here.
Have they been released yet?
Yeah Nov 2 here in the U.S.

245.11.2007 11:22

Originally posted by jetyi83:
how is it pointless.. and what the hell do you see that makes it childish? childish is such a completely wrong word to use.

its a statistical fact that is perfectly valid. i don't think total sales is relevant when talking about sale trends, but it is definitely a valid statement.
whether it is a statistical fact or not it is irrelevant in this area. this area is for discussing the closing gap as proven 100% accurate by the moving from a 6:1 ratio to a 2:1 between the wii and the ps3. This is not for the general sale of more game console units.

Childish is the perfect word of use, just like a kid who doesnt get his way, just because you have a bias against the ps3 doest mean you should (through a fit) and post random irrelevant posts (that are true) but none the less they are irrelevant to the topic. There are more units sold in general, true, you are right on that, but it is also true that ps3 has a greater share of those consoles being sold so your post was irrelevant and argued nothing.

255.11.2007 13:36

Quote:
Originally posted by jetyi83:
how is it pointless.. and what the hell do you see that makes it childish? childish is such a completely wrong word to use.

its a statistical fact that is perfectly valid. i don't think total sales is relevant when talking about sale trends, but it is definitely a valid statement.
whether it is a statistical fact or not it is irrelevant in this area. this area is for discussing the closing gap as proven 100% accurate by the moving from a 6:1 ratio to a 2:1 between the wii and the ps3. This is not for the general sale of more game console units.

Childish is the perfect word of use, just like a kid who doesnt get his way, just because you have a bias against the ps3 doest mean you should (through a fit) and post random irrelevant posts (that are true) but none the less they are irrelevant to the topic. There are more units sold in general, true, you are right on that, but it is also true that ps3 has a greater share of those consoles being sold so your post was irrelevant and argued nothing.
So as inane as the current sales are there is movement thus the gap is "closing" even tho theres still a almost 3 to 1 ratio of units sold in the total?

265.11.2007 16:53

Originally posted by Bladerz05:
Originally posted by jetyi83:
how is it pointless.. and what the hell do you see that makes it childish? childish is such a completely wrong word to use.

its a statistical fact that is perfectly valid. i don't think total sales is relevant when talking about sale trends, but it is definitely a valid statement.
whether it is a statistical fact or not it is irrelevant in this area. this area is for discussing the closing gap as proven 100% accurate by the moving from a 6:1 ratio to a 2:1 between the wii and the ps3. This is not for the general sale of more game console units.

Childish is the perfect word of use, just like a kid who doesnt get his way, just because you have a bias against the ps3 doest mean you should (through a fit) and post random irrelevant posts (that are true) but none the less they are irrelevant to the topic. There are more units sold in general, true, you are right on that, but it is also true that ps3 has a greater share of those consoles being sold so your post was irrelevant and argued nothing.
The only thing "childish" right now are the personal attacks.

The headline reads "PS3 closing the gap on the Wii in Japan". It does not specify "ratio gap" or "sales trends gap"or "total sales gap". The fact that we're even having this discussion is proof enough that the headline can and will be misinterpreted.

275.11.2007 19:54

Quote:
Originally posted by Bladerz05:
Originally posted by jetyi83:
how is it pointless.. and what the hell do you see that makes it childish? childish is such a completely wrong word to use.

its a statistical fact that is perfectly valid. i don't think total sales is relevant when talking about sale trends, but it is definitely a valid statement.
whether it is a statistical fact or not it is irrelevant in this area. this area is for discussing the closing gap as proven 100% accurate by the moving from a 6:1 ratio to a 2:1 between the wii and the ps3. This is not for the general sale of more game console units.

Childish is the perfect word of use, just like a kid who doesnt get his way, just because you have a bias against the ps3 doest mean you should (through a fit) and post random irrelevant posts (that are true) but none the less they are irrelevant to the topic. There are more units sold in general, true, you are right on that, but it is also true that ps3 has a greater share of those consoles being sold so your post was irrelevant and argued nothing.
The only thing "childish" right now are the personal attacks.

The headline reads "PS3 closing the gap on the Wii in Japan". It does not specify "ratio gap" or "sales trends gap"or "total sales gap". The fact that we're even having this discussion is proof enough that the headline can and will be misinterpreted.
ignorance misinterprets this, and furthermore you are right, i shouldn't attack the ignorant people plainly because of their ignorance, they cant help it, so with that said, i apologize to all the ignorant people of this forum and apologize to the people who have to witness such events who are at least partially sane.

286.11.2007 0:23

I've never seen someone throw a temper-tantrum in response to another person suggesting a headline could be misleading.

But you've demonstrated how civil you can conduct yourself in a discussion. Well done.

296.11.2007 11:10

i merely apologized to the community, you are mistaken.


I am Lord Bladerzor.

306.11.2007 12:12

The PS3 will come out better games and the Wii will start to lose it's appeal. It will eventually go from 2:1 to 1:1 to 1:2, etc....May be a couple of years before the Wii bubble bursts though. It's a nice system that will keep people occupied until the PS3 really starts to beat its chest and sound out the war cry.

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316.11.2007 15:03

Originally posted by Bladerz05:
i merely apologized to the community, you are mistaken.

By calling anyone who doesn't follow your own train of thought ignorant and questioning their sanity?
I know full well the ratio of Wii's outselling PS3's is getting smaller. Deducing that from the headline, however, is not a matter of ignorance.

You word choices throughout this thread are poor.

326.11.2007 19:11

Quote:
Originally posted by Bladerz05:
i merely apologized to the community, you are mistaken.

By calling anyone who doesn't follow your own train of thought ignorant and questioning their sanity?
I know full well the ratio of Wii's outselling PS3's is getting smaller. Deducing that from the headline, however, is not a matter of ignorance.

You word choices throughout this thread are poor.
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110,415 Wii units were sold in October in Japan compared to 47,183 PS3 units.
i am not assuming from the headline these numbers which were used in the article above (in case it wasnt read) show the ratio in plain view, wii is still selling more consoles no S**t, but the point of this thread is that how much more (according to ratio) ps3's are being sold in comparison to Wii's hence from a 6:1 ratio to a 2:1 ratio.

it is simple economics and for someone who is unable to understand the concept, they would be considered ignorant, because they do not know about this particular study.

337.11.2007 0:11

Originally posted by Bladerz05:

it is simple economics and for someone who is unable to understand the concept, they would be considered ignorant, because they do not know about this particular study.
What is wrong with you? I understand the article, agree with the article, and know what the article is talking about. I'm not arguing anything besides how the headline could lead people to believe something totally different than what is contained within the report.

347.11.2007 1:34

what is wrong with me? LOL your the one who is changing their story not me.

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"Closing the Gap" is sort of a misleading headline. The Wii is still outselling the ps3, and the gap is still widening, just at a slower rate. It's like calculus all over again.
hmmm the gap between the wii and the ps3 is still widening?

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I understand the article, agree with the article, and know what the article is talking about.
ok so the gap is closing...?

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I'm not arguing anything besides how the headline could lead people to believe something totally different than what is contained within the report.
ok...so the gap isnt closing? hmmm...quite contradictory indeed.

anyways truth is the gap is closing, just not as an exponential rate.
emugamer has it right when he said
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It will eventually go from 2:1 to 1:1 to 1:2, etc....

of course this being a possible outcome IF it continues in this direction.
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I am Lord Bladerzor.

357.11.2007 1:46
xhardc0re
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a pleasant reminder to those of you who have their heads stuck up their arse. It doesn't matter which system is better, nor how many polygons per second it can display.
What matters is, are the games fun to play?
So if PS3 starts doing well, or Wii trounces them soundly for the next year, or a ****ing meteorite strikes China & all gaming consoles are put out of production for 3 weeks. Remember this: the games, no matter what anyone will tell you, are what make the system.

In that regard, if MGS4, DMC4 & FFversusXIII/FFXIII are as awesome as they seem, I will purchase the new Sony system. But if they are not, I am going with the Wii. Because the Wiimote & the games overall seem more fun than what I've experienced on the PS3 or 360. That said, I don't own a 52" HDTV with a $1k stereo system. If I did, i wouldn't be making this post. Because I'd own all 3 systems & not give a darn what they cost. Unfortunately, my rich mum & dad don't buy me everything. I have to work to buy what I want.

Sony has everything to lose, because from what I have played so far shows that the Wii is more fun. iPod ripoff or not, the Wii has something special about it. The underpowered Wii, with a "silly controller" (quoting Kaz Hirai) is more fun than the Blu-Ray whizbang we can make your toast & let you remote control the PS3 from your toilet $500 Cellchip supercomputer 5 billion operations per second all-in-one multimedia system with Linux.

Pffft. It's all about the games.


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367.11.2007 11:29

Originally posted by xhardc0re:
a pleasant reminder to those of you who have their heads stuck up their arse. It doesn't matter which system is better, nor how many polygons per second it can display.
What matters is, are the games fun to play?
So if PS3 starts doing well, or Wii trounces them soundly for the next year, or a ****ing meteorite strikes China & all gaming consoles are put out of production for 3 weeks. Remember this: the games, no matter what anyone will tell you, are what make the system.

In that regard, if MGS4, DMC4 & FFversusXIII/FFXIII are as awesome as they seem, I will purchase the new Sony system. But if they are not, I am going with the Wii. Because the Wiimote & the games overall seem more fun than what I've experienced on the PS3 or 360. That said, I don't own a 52" HDTV with a $1k stereo system. If I did, i wouldn't be making this post. Because I'd own all 3 systems & not give a darn what they cost. Unfortunately, my rich mum & dad don't buy me everything. I have to work to buy what I want.

Sony has everything to lose, because from what I have played so far shows that the Wii is more fun. iPod ripoff or not, the Wii has something special about it. The underpowered Wii, with a "silly controller" (quoting Kaz Hirai) is more fun than the Blu-Ray whizbang we can make your toast & let you remote control the PS3 from your toilet $500 Cellchip supercomputer 5 billion operations per second all-in-one multimedia system with Linux.

Pffft. It's all about the games.
i'm pretty sure no one on this thread has said any console is better than the other so i dont know who the one is with there head up their arse. The only one i see bashing and praising systems is you; we are merely discussing the closing gap between the consoles.

I am Lord Bladerzor.

377.11.2007 16:38

Originally posted by Bladerz05:
what is wrong with me? LOL your the one who is changing their story not me.
Quote:
"Closing the Gap" is sort of a misleading headline. The Wii is still outselling the ps3, and the gap is still widening, just at a slower rate. It's like calculus all over again.
hmmm the gap between the wii and the ps3 is still widening?

Total sales gap. I.E. the difference between the total hardware units sold for each company, respectively. The rate of that happens to be decreasing (which I also stated), which is the "sales gap ratio" or whatever you would like to call it. Thus validating what I've said and what the article said.

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I understand the article, agree with the article, and know what the article is talking about.
ok so the gap is closing...?


Sales ratio gap is yes. To explain it better, if you were to think of a line as being the function of total hardware units sold with respect to the Wii, the slope would be decreasing (what the article is talking about), but it is still positive and the line is still increasing (which could be misinterpreted by the headline of the article).



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emugamer has it right when he said
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It will eventually go from 2:1 to 1:1 to 1:2, etc....

of course this being a possible outcome IF it continues in this direction.
Agreed.

3817.11.2007 17:05

Originally posted by ali2007:
lower the price of ps3 i am buying it
I agree and the fact is they did however it needs to go down further.

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