EMI loses case to Usenet provider

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You think this is going to stop the stupidity of lawyers? HAH

They'll just find some other snake-assed way of fucking with newsgroups.
These are the same kind of people who are trying to tell us that ripping CDs we own for personal use is not legal.

Originally posted by hikaricor:

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You think this is going to stop the stupidity of lawyers? HAH

They'll just find some other snake-assed way of messing with newsgroups.
These are the same kind of people who are trying to tell us that ripping CDs we own for personal use is not legal.

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It's so true. I'm glad the newsgroups won. IRC and newsgroups are practically the only safe havens anymore. And even then, they aren't that safe.

...and until they come crashing through the door, usenet is still king for all media types. We need more companies standing up to these kinds of attacks even if it is to protect their own interests in the bottom line, make them "go fish" for another way...

well newsgroups are not that diffrent than torrents sooner or later the media mafia will break thier knees :P

There will be a loop hole that will be found and this issue will keep going.

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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well newsgroups are not that diffrent than torrents sooner or later the media mafia will break thier knees :P

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Maybe so, but the good news is that Usenet is a harder target to go after. It's basically an Internet in it's own right, with servers dotted all over the world. You could take one or two down, but people would just go elsewhere instead. Another thing to note is that it's not P2P. It only takes one person to post an article. Also, thanks to propagation, what is on one server generally filters out to them all sooner or later.

No I think that Usenet will survive for a while yet... At least until the next big thing comes along.

Nice double standards in operation here from what I can see.. On one hand the German courts uphold that obtaining pirate content from PAID newsgroup accounts is fine, while at the same time deciding that a p2p tracker run from Switzerland and free to all is breaking the law..
It's the same issue.. a tracker is also not responsible for the actions of 1 person.

So it's ok to get hold of pirate material if YOU PAY a third party to access it? I think the judges are scared that if newsgroup servers are raided their downloading of child porn will come out.

I guess they see the BT Tracker services as more of a threat, since they are free to start with. The justification for that train of thought would be that if a person is wanting to obtain material without paying for it, then he/she is hardly likely to go out and spend 10 to 20 dollars a month to do the same thing.