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Wii dominates consoles in Japan again

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 28 Feb 2008 15:16 User comments (49)

Wii dominates consoles in Japan again According to new data figures from Enterbrain, the ever popular Nintendo Wii has dominated the Japanese console market again, outselling the next closest competitor, the Sony PlayStation 3 by an almost 4-to-1 margin.
As of February 24th, 331,627 Wii units had been sold in Japan, compared to 89,131 PlayStation 3s.

The PS3 has been closing the gap recently but the blockbuster hit "Super Smash Bros. Brawl" eliminated that, at least for the month. The game reached one million units sold in 11 days, and has now sold 1.33 million.

As always, the Microsoft Xbox 360 lagged terribly behind in the region and shows no signs of improvement.


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49 user comments

128.2.2008 15:56
vinny13
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Lol thanks Tips ;)

228.2.2008 17:07

the xbox 360 sales will not grow, even if new exclusives come out for it, there wont be many buyers

328.2.2008 17:25
goodswipe
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Operation Get Wii:

I still haven't been able to pick one of these up. I've started a mission to find one. I go into all the local stores near my work everyday and ask if they have them, no luck.

"Sorry, we just sold our last one yesterday." "But I came in here yesterday and you said you didn't have any!?!"

"Sorry, we are all sold out. We haven't received any in two weeks."

/sigh


I refuse to pay 100-200 dollars more for these on CL!
Wii needs to dominate the console market in Austin Tx....

428.2.2008 18:06

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As always, the Microsoft Xbox 360 lagged terribly behind in the region and shows no signs of improvement.
American things are not meant to thrive in other countries. The 360 was designed in mind to appeal to the Japanese market. Apparently that failed horribly. I guess first impressions do last a life time.

528.2.2008 18:35

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As always, the Microsoft Xbox 360 lagged terribly behind in the region and shows no signs of improvement.
American things are not meant to thrive in other countries. The 360 was designed in mind to appeal to the Japanese market. Apparently that failed horribly. I guess first impressions do last a life time.

the 360 is just poorly designed its like windows with super heavy DRM to keep you from wanting to use it.

628.2.2008 19:11
vinny13
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Quote:
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As always, the Microsoft Xbox 360 lagged terribly behind in the region and shows no signs of improvement.
American things are not meant to thrive in other countries. The 360 was designed in mind to appeal to the Japanese market. Apparently that failed horribly. I guess first impressions do last a life time.
Ya I agree. Asians in general would rather support their own contries rather then others...

728.2.2008 19:30

i Would support America by buying American made products, trick is finding A product made in America in America,the only thing i can think of is our Agriculture Industree.

in anycase Nintendo think you can dominate the United States of America console genre for a while, i for one would appreciate it.

828.2.2008 19:32

Originally posted by DXR88:
i Would support America by buying American made products, trick is finding A product made in America in America,the only thing i can think of is our Agriculture Industree.

in anycase Nintendo think you can dominate the United States of America console genre for a while, i for one would appreciate it.
I wish it would be less gimmicky, gave more control options and had enough games to make it more than a gimmick....then again whos the gimmick a system built for mindless power or the system built for mindless fun*rolls eyes*.

928.2.2008 19:45

Ill take mindless power seems to be whats available in the USA, Example PS3,Xbox360,& the Atari 2600 with a one button controler, now thats power.

1028.2.2008 19:49

Originally posted by DXR88:
Ill take mindless power seems to be whats available in the USA, Example PS3,Xbox360,& the Atari 2600 with a one button controler, now thats power.
Arr maty me PC RIG brings mindless power its over 9000!!!!

LOL
:P

1128.2.2008 22:08
tripplite
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the Japanese are insane, they don't like shooters or RTS, they like small pieces of white sh*t....sorry my inner fanboy got lose for a second there..

1228.2.2008 22:16

Originally posted by tripplite:
the Japanese are insane, they don't like shooters or RTS, they like small pieces of white sh*t....sorry my inner fanboy got lose for a second there..
They like TBS and some RTS but mostly RPG's and action games and like party games.

The US likes shooters,action RTS RPGs and such.
Lets just face it if you have a simi modern med range game PC you don't need the 360 and its excess fees and hardware failures.

1328.2.2008 22:21
goodswipe
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Just give me my Wii!!

/ARGGGGHHHGHGHGH

/Tooo many Blue Moons

;)

1428.2.2008 23:46
vinny13
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Shooters are fun for a while...

BUT THEN THEY GET SO DAMN BORING!

I played R:FOM for 2-3 straight weeks, and now I don't even touch it. And all shooters are the same. Kill the enemy. Nothing origional. One always copies the other these days...

1529.2.2008 0:02

If you think all FPshooters are the same you must not have played BIOSHOCK on xbox360. I think it is really sad that americans will be honest enough with themself to buy a videogame, car (toyota,honda,etc...)and other items from the asians but they hold their pride on their shoulders and dont give xbox a fair shot just b/c it is american and they may not have liked it the firt go around. I was sony all the way and had no plans to ever try microsoft gaming. But i got tired of waiting on the ps3 to make some decent games and inprove on its weak library of games subpar graphics given what many software developers say the ps3 is really capable of. Sony claimed the ps3 would blow the xbox 360 out of the water graphic wise and they would have the best library of games but i was still waiting for that day to come. So i went out and bought an xbox 360, man was it hard to bring that ugly box in my house. But you know what, i love it and i am glad i gave it an unbiased chance. I dont care who makes the product. If i like it i will buy it and not look at it by saying it is foreign. I own a toyota and a Nissan and have had plenty of GMs and a mazda in the past.

1629.2.2008 0:34

Originally posted by lxhotboy:
Sony claimed the ps3 would blow the xbox 360 out of the water graphic wise and they would have the best library of games but i was still waiting for that day to come.
you have to keep in mind that the ps3 is still early in progression. its like comparing ps2 games, from NBA 2k to NBA 2k8. HUGE DIFFERENCE, and still on the same counsel. i believe that they just havent used the ps3 potential.

1729.2.2008 5:14

Originally posted by lxhotboy:
If you think all FPshooters are the same you must not have played BIOSHOCK on xbox360. I think it is really sad that americans will be honest enough with themself to buy a videogame, car (toyota,honda,etc...)and other items from the asians but they hold their pride on their shoulders and dont give xbox a fair shot just b/c it is american and they may not have liked it the firt go around. I was sony all the way and had no plans to ever try microsoft gaming. But i got tired of waiting on the ps3 to make some decent games and inprove on its weak library of games subpar graphics given what many software developers say the ps3 is really capable of. Sony claimed the ps3 would blow the xbox 360 out of the water graphic wise and they would have the best library of games but i was still waiting for that day to come. So i went out and bought an xbox 360, man was it hard to bring that ugly box in my house. But you know what, i love it and i am glad i gave it an unbiased chance. I dont care who makes the product. If i like it i will buy it and not look at it by saying it is foreign. I own a toyota and a Nissan and have had plenty of GMs and a mazda in the past.
Bioshock is a meek FPS Cryisis has alil more polish on it but my god Bioshock is watered down,its a real console FPS like deus ex 2 was....

I come from a era of when FPSs were almost adventure based look at the mid and late 90's shooters when you play a shooter that not only has size but fun you get quickly bored of the new gun and run theme dominating todays FPSs.

Now dose this mean BS is a gun and run FPS....it dose have above average level design however compared to the past its meek,gameplay is very streamlined and simplified lacking any real depth that with the limited AI and broken PC mouse it makes its over all experience lack luster, if they didn't nerf the gameplay mechanics for the masses BS might be a 12....

All in all Fear would be the better FPS of the last few years and Dark Messiah of the adventure/RPG FPS lot.

Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.

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1829.2.2008 7:59
vinny13
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Ya I wasn't much of a fan for FEAR but at least it was interesting. It wasn't based on Live or PSN :)

1929.2.2008 8:27

Zippy, do you own a broken 360? My 2nd hand one has worked flawlessly for over a year now...

Anyhow, yeah, how much more innovation is there for FPS? Bioshock had some innovative ideas. The story and graphics really made the game. Other games like The Darkness are really frustrating ripoffs. Then you have a million different war shooters, either WWII or "Modern/Futuristic" sims. Aside from COD4 (especially multiplayer) what type of innovation do these games bring? Nothing new to see here since the days of Goldeneye/Perfect Dark and Doom/Quake.

The Wii really isn't that much of a gimmick... Nintendo just doesn't have the grapefruits to prevent crap like "Pony game" or "Undersea Adventure" or "Misabused Movie License" to come out for their system, so they get a bad rap.

2029.2.2008 10:21

No there getting a bad rap, because i dont have a WII yet. really starting to Tick me off.

2129.2.2008 11:03

Originally posted by SProdigy:
Zippy, do you own a broken 360? My 2nd hand one has worked flawlessly for over a year now...

Anyhow, yeah, how much more innovation is there for FPS? Bioshock had some innovative ideas. The story and graphics really made the game. Other games like The Darkness are really frustrating ripoffs. Then you have a million different war shooters, either WWII or "Modern/Futuristic" sims. Aside from COD4 (especially multiplayer) what type of innovation do these games bring? Nothing new to see here since the days of Goldeneye/Perfect Dark and Doom/Quake.

The Wii really isn't that much of a gimmick... Nintendo just doesn't have the grapefruits to prevent crap like "Pony game" or "Undersea Adventure" or "Misabused Movie License" to come out for their system, so they get a bad rap.
After trying to fix 5 of them friends had and borrowed one for 6 months I don't need to own it to know what its capable of it has a very high fail rate.

the WII has 4 or 6 "normal games" the rest are either crappy license's or party games.

FPS have been moving back in innovation the last one I played to be highly innovative was Dark messiah the rest are shallow cloned spawns of their main series, DOOM and quake are movies now and bioshock is a lack luster retard version of system shock, Crysis is pretty much far cry with a suit.

Most FPSs use the lets not try anything lets be "safe" bland and tried routine and some like Jericho make you wonder if they are snorting the same cocaine the movie industry has on hand for its crapfests.

FPSs were once more adventurous like in the mid 90s sprite based titles had large well built maps even Quake,HL and Unreal was good then they started to not use water parts of levels and got ultra lazy on layouts in the 2K's things got worse the more realism the forced into them.

2229.2.2008 11:36
goodswipe
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Originally posted by DXR88:
No there getting a bad rap, because i dont have a WII yet. really starting to Tick me off.
Welcome to the club! Do you want to join Operation Get Wii?

PM me to discuss some details. :)

Quote:
he WII has 4 or 6 "normal games" the rest are either crappy license's or party games.
The Wii has never been aimed at hardcore gamers so this would be expected! It's definitely great for parents that have fat kids who want to help contribute to the decline of obesity in America. ;)

A little Wii Tennis will shed a few pounds in one week.

2329.2.2008 11:39

Originally posted by goodswipe:
Originally posted by DXR88:
No there getting a bad rap, because i dont have a WII yet. really starting to Tick me off.
Welcome to the club! Do you want to join Operation Get Wii?

PM me to discuss some details. :)

Quote:
he WII has 4 or 6 "normal games" the rest are either crappy license's or party games.
The Wii has never been aimed at hardcore gamers so this would be expected! It's definitely great for parents that have fat kids who want to help contribute to the decline of obesity in America. ;)

A little Wii Tennis will shed a few pounds in one week.
Its a shame to, the WII could be a great lil system with alil more polish :P

Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.

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2429.2.2008 11:58

Quote:
Originally posted by goodswipe:
Originally posted by DXR88:
No there getting a bad rap, because i dont have a WII yet. really starting to Tick me off.
Welcome to the club! Do you want to join Operation Get Wii?

PM me to discuss some details. :)

Quote:
he WII has 4 or 6 "normal games" the rest are either crappy license's or party games.
The Wii has never been aimed at hardcore gamers so this would be expected! It's definitely great for parents that have fat kids who want to help contribute to the decline of obesity in America. ;)

A little Wii Tennis will shed a few pounds in one week.
Its a shame to, the WII could be a great lil system with alil more polish :P
Well, based on their sales figures.....lots of people are happy with mediocrity.

2529.2.2008 12:03

Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by goodswipe:
Originally posted by DXR88:
No there getting a bad rap, because i dont have a WII yet. really starting to Tick me off.
Welcome to the club! Do you want to join Operation Get Wii?

PM me to discuss some details. :)

Quote:
he WII has 4 or 6 "normal games" the rest are either crappy license's or party games.
The Wii has never been aimed at hardcore gamers so this would be expected! It's definitely great for parents that have fat kids who want to help contribute to the decline of obesity in America. ;)

A little Wii Tennis will shed a few pounds in one week.
Its a shame to, the WII could be a great lil system with alil more polish :P
Well, based on their sales figures.....lots of people are happy with mediocrity.

same can be said for hollywood too :P

2629.2.2008 16:09

i only want a WII for Super Smash bwral, and the only real reason i decide to get a WII was ether i upgrade My 2 HD2900 Crossfire to HD3800 or, got somthing to waste more of my life on. the WII fit the waste of life bill perfectly.

2729.2.2008 16:55
r0b0t3ch
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Good luck all finding them. I only say that because I had luck brush my direction for a change. Walked into a Bestbuy about 6 months ago at random to go buy a DVD and a little white 8 1/2 X 11 piece a paper said "Wiis in stock". When I asked if it was for real, the door guy said "yeah, about 15 right over there". Went to check and voila......about 15. I love the thing but only play once in a blue moon. I never buy games for it and just rent. Got ethernet for it, new 3rd party wireless sensor bar, classic controller for Mario Kart 64 and two nunchuk controllers. Way fun and worth the purchase.

If you want one then you actually need to ask a Bestbuy or Circuit city employee (that cares about answering you legitimately) about when they may get some. Often............they will have an idea OR, if your timing is right then they'll know exactly when. I missed a couple opportunities at first this way and forgot to set alarm to wait outside stores on the day they told me about them coming in.

2829.2.2008 17:03
r0b0t3ch
Inactive

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by goodswipe:
Originally posted by DXR88:
No there getting a bad rap, because i dont have a WII yet. really starting to Tick me off.
Welcome to the club! Do you want to join Operation Get Wii?

PM me to discuss some details. :)

Quote:
he WII has 4 or 6 "normal games" the rest are either crappy license's or party games.
The Wii has never been aimed at hardcore gamers so this would be expected! It's definitely great for parents that have fat kids who want to help contribute to the decline of obesity in America. ;)

A little Wii Tennis will shed a few pounds in one week.
Its a shame to, the WII could be a great lil system with alil more polish :P
Well, based on their sales figures.....lots of people are happy with mediocrity.

same can be said for hollywood too :P
PIPE DOWN with your Hollywood bashing! Just because either 1: you have bad taste in movies, or 2: are looking or using as a reason for you to justify your constant delinquint stealing of movies via download, doesn't mean you have any credibility. 20 bucks says you seen at least 3-5 movies (download, theatre, rent or WHATEVER) in the past month or 2. If you say no and AREN"T LYING, then and ONLY then will anyone maybe believe that you're not F.O.S. If you have seen movies then obviously they're not bad.

Hollywood movies are great in general. If you don't like then go to India and take an exclusive interest in Bollywood flicks. I hate Hollywood bashers! You're all the same. Bashing to justify your criminal intentions. Perhaps you'll share the LAST 5 MOVIES you saw WITHOUT WALKING OUT OF THEATRE IN THE MIDDLE that so called "stunk".


"Oh waaaaahhhhhhh............Hollywood is making crap so I'm just gonna take for myself and download them all. Since they're making crap then I'm not going to pay for anything." Adolescents!
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2929.2.2008 17:18

Quote:
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Originally posted by goodswipe:
Originally posted by DXR88:
No there getting a bad rap, because i dont have a WII yet. really starting to Tick me off.
Welcome to the club! Do you want to join Operation Get Wii?

PM me to discuss some details. :)

Quote:
he WII has 4 or 6 "normal games" the rest are either crappy license's or party games.
The Wii has never been aimed at hardcore gamers so this would be expected! It's definitely great for parents that have fat kids who want to help contribute to the decline of obesity in America. ;)

A little Wii Tennis will shed a few pounds in one week.
Its a shame to, the WII could be a great lil system with alil more polish :P
Well, based on their sales figures.....lots of people are happy with mediocrity.

same can be said for hollywood too :P
PIPE DOWN with your Hollywood bashing! Just because either 1: you have bad taste in movies, or 2: are looking or using as a reason for you to justify your constant delinquint stealing of movies via download, doesn't mean you have any credibility. 20 bucks says you seen at least 3-5 movies (download, theatre, rent or WHATEVER) in the past month or 2. If you say no and AREN"T LYING, then and ONLY then will anyone maybe believe that you're not F.O.S. If you have seen movies then obviously they're not bad.

Hollywood movies are great in general. If you don't like then go to India and take an exclusive interest in Bollywood flicks. I hate Hollywood bashers! You're all the same. Bashing to justify your criminal intentions. Perhaps you'll share the LAST 5 MOVIES you saw WITHOUT WALKING OUT OF THEATRE IN THE MIDDLE that so called "stunk".


"Oh waaaaahhhhhhh............Hollywood is making crap so I'm just gonna take for myself and download them all. Since they're making crap then I'm not going to pay for anything." Adolescents!
.....and Michael Bay has just left the building......

3029.2.2008 17:21
nobrainer
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Note to sony/m$ "serious" gamers own pc's as they are far superior to your kids toys, maybe give up the never ending pursuit of "better graphics" as you will never be able to compete with a pc in performance & try to concentrate on making fun and innovative titles, instead of constant sequels and remakes with "better graphics"

with the success in killing the music industry and films going the same way consoles are the current target for the ideot courporate morons, the outcome = wii dominates because its about the FUN in gaming.

but thank god Phil "the eternal lier" Harrison has left! 1 lobby prik down many more to go!

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 29 Feb 2008 @ 17:30

3129.2.2008 22:25

r0b0t3ch.....dude lay off zippy. its called freedom of speech, and in all honsty there are only 3-5 movies even worth watching from hollywood, and how old are you, if you were truly a senior you would know that blatent trashy mouth rip off's are the only thing out of hollywood in this day in age.

im 19 and i happen to like movies made in the 60 and up one of my favorits was tomb stone.

321.3.2008 0:33

oh man this is a trip. @ Nobrainer
how many times has a computer game won game of the year compared to the video game consoles in the past and when you look the see the best games at the current time i suppose pc has the most on that list. I dont think PC has the library to compete and that my friend, IS A NOBRAINER.

331.3.2008 0:52

http://www.ign.com/
http://www.gamepro.com/index.shtml
http://www.1up.com/do/pubs?did=2

Here are some sites that dont show many EXCLUSIVE pc games as being the hot commodity as usual.

Now if you take a look at the best games of 2007 you will see some pc games in the list but how many are exclusive only to pc. The gaming consoles have a larger popularity with the exclusives.

341.3.2008 13:17
vinny13
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Originally posted by lxhotboy:
oh man this is a trip. @ Nobrainer
how many times has a computer game won game of the year compared to the video game consoles in the past and when you look the see the best games at the current time i suppose pc has the most on that list. I dont think PC has the library to compete and that my friend, IS A NOBRAINER.
I think he's partly right... Like how many good games on a 360 can you NOT find on a PC? How many of those games were PC-first and then 360?

352.3.2008 0:49

I do agree with the xbox 360 and pc games but actually the serious gamers dont play pc. Most of the serious gamers prefer the video game console and serious video game players dont worry about graphics so that actually makes a pc obsolete. Shallow gamers are the ones that say that graphics make the game and are more important than gameplay and funfacter. A hardcore gamer is one who still takes time to play the very first Zelda. If you have to rely on a pc power only you are not a serious gamer. A hardcore gamer will play on pc,wii,ps3,xbox 360. You see the gamer who only plays PC games is limiting himself to a narrow selection of games. That was my point to the guy for such a shallow comment.

362.3.2008 4:35
r0b0t3ch
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Originally posted by DXR88:
r0b0t3ch.....dude lay off zippy. its called freedom of speech, and in all honsty there are only 3-5 movies even worth watching from hollywood, and how old are you, if you were truly a senior you would know that blatent trashy mouth rip off's are the only thing out of hollywood in this day in age.

im 19 and i happen to like movies made in the 60 and up one of my favorits was tomb stone.

I'm not criticizing freedom of speech! Not at all. I believe in it. But some shouldn't be aloud to voice opinions; but I'm not saying that Zippy shouldn't be aloud. What I said had nothing to do with freedom of speech so READ MY POST AGAIN SHMO!

And is that 3-5 movies in the past month/year/decade? My comment now applies to you. I'd bet that you have seen many more than 3-5 in the past couple months and sincerely enjoyed them. If not and you have actually WALKED OUT of the theatre or stopped the DVD half way through then...........ok, maybe your credible but I'm guessing that you have enjoyed and been "entertained" by more than that.

I'm 34 you putz! Far from a senior and if I could put my foot up your arse then you'd be deserving for making a senseless comment as you did. What exactly do you mean regarding "trashy mouth rip-offs"? Yet another lame comment made by a twit 19 year old who honestly thinks he/she knows "from life experience..........NOT" what they're talking about. You're 19. You've been able to drive for a measly 3 years. You just graduated H.S. maybe 1 1/2 years ago. Provide 5 movies that you actually thought "Might" be good and turned out to be bad/terrible or not worth watching. You're just another kiddie justifying the constant stealing and downloading of movies using the excuse ..........."Oh wahhhhhhh, Hollywood makes crap, therefore I'm going to steal all of them and not pay for ANYTHING" I'd bet if I looked at your hard drive.......I'd see HUNDREDS of movies that you "didn't like" or were "bad". You must pipe down too now. No voting for you.

Tell me.........what was the last DVD you actually purchased? And HEY........"TOMBSTONE" was filmed in the 1993 so at least pick a flick from the time frame you're using to defend your lame point of view, and movies from the "60's" were simple and, altnough many were good........most plain, boring and unimaginative. Back then humans were unable to truly put their imagination on paper and film since all they had were black and white reels. You are apparently a simpleton who is easily ammused.
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372.3.2008 4:54
r0b0t3ch
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Originally posted by lxhotboy:
oh man this is a trip. @ Nobrainer
how many times has a computer game won game of the year compared to the video game consoles in the past and when you look the see the best games at the current time i suppose pc has the most on that list. I dont think PC has the library to compete and that my friend, IS A NOBRAINER.
Oh man.............this comment was made by a 'no brainer' Good GOD, what is the world coming to. PC gaming sets the standard...........PERIOD. Console gaming is originally made and geared for youngsters so they could grasp the ease of use regarding the controller and simply pressing ONE FRAKKIN' BUTTON to get it up and running. It has since evolved but PC gaming is the standard, has the BEST graphics and the ONLY REASON that consoles have so many games that aren't available on the PC is because of this simple reason................SONY owns the PS and Microsoft owns the XBOX. NOBODY OWNS THE PC as there are many manufacturers and let's not forget custom builds. I do agree with the later post regarding "serious gamers" that play ALL THE SYSTEMS BUT the most serious gamers are PC peeps. One example is Half Life and HL@. GAME OF THE YEAR and it's on PC only. Only recently has HL come out on the consoles because the developer regocnized the MONETARY POTENTIAL. Consoles are driven by profits, sales and money; PC games are driven by HARD CORE GAMERS. Your comment is not thought out and outright untrue. Take a survey.........you'll find the contrary to what you believe. Sheesh!

382.3.2008 5:44

r0b0t3ch
Sadly Console are the standard now because it sells software better than the PC, ID and Epic have already went fully console, value sales its own software online so the PC gets alil more attention but the OB was not released that much later on them thus they too have gone console.

Only a few devs and pubs do not fool with the console mainly do to cost of porting it.

the hollywoodization of gaming is near complete,tho I hope more companies improve themselfs like capcom has...I doubt it...

392.3.2008 7:36

i take issue with several things said up there.
might be just because i could never afford a gaming pc
when i was first getting big into gaming.
this one stands tall as your biggest problem statement.

Originally posted by r0b0t3ch :
Consoles are driven by profits, sales and money; PC games are driven by HARD CORE GAMERS.
all major game development is driven by money.
that may get worse; blame console success if you want.
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 02 Mar 2008 @ 7:37

402.3.2008 8:05

-r0b0t3ch- haha is that it, is that all you could come back at me with. what a wast of my life you have been.

412.3.2008 8:05

Quote:
i take issue with several things said up there.
might be just because i could never afford a gaming pc
when i was first getting big into gaming.
this one stands tall as your biggest problem statement.

Originally posted by r0b0t3ch :
Consoles are driven by profits, sales and money; PC games are driven by HARD CORE GAMERS.


all major game development is driven by money.
that may get worse; blame console success if you want.

Well its true,doesn't make it right but its true :P

423.3.2008 9:25

You prove my point exactly. You admit that pc doesnot get all the majority of the games and that is my point. You are limiting yourself to a few select games if you choose to play pc only. A serious hardcore gamer would never limit himself now would he. Second my son, 4 years old, has enough pc games(Dragontales), spiderman, etc... and by the way he has been playing them since he was 3 actually. Gaming is all about preference and just bc you or someone else plays most of their games on pc doesnot make you any more of a gamer than the next person. In my opinion If i have all 3 next generation systems, and desktop and 2 laptops. I play a broader spectrum of games than yourself. Everyconsole has it gamers for youngsters so dont think PC doesnot they have a hell of a lot. Most of my friends are around 30ish own all the major console and a pc or 2 and we love play games peroid. Doesnot matter the console.
Last i say on thing to you gaming was put on the map by a console not a pc. Nintendo took popularity to another level..I am aware and played atari and coleco but nintendo put gaming on the map.

433.3.2008 9:41

lxhotboy
I'll get all the systems when the price range falls into what I believe their crap fests are worth ^^

the PC upgrade was cheaper at the time than even a 360 premium and I sure as hell refuse to pay 400$ for a broken 360 with a whole 6 games that are not on PC.

Got a friend who is itching to get a elite..I might can borrow his premium for a couple years :P

443.3.2008 17:51
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ZippyDSM- the only games i pay buck for are...SHOOTERS;)

W00T W00T

Anyway its not my problem if the Japaneses dont play shooters, or dont realize that RPGS just right out suck b*lls, anyway i know a good console when i see one...360!!/PS3

thats enough fanboy out of me!!

just a warning to all you guys out there (and my self) ..be careful of the wrath






4512.3.2008 12:34

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Bioshock is a meek FPS Cryisis has alil more polish on it but my god Bioshock is watered down,its a real console FPS like deus ex 2 was....
I know crysis has the best graphics to date but I would not exactly call Bioshock watered down and crysis alil more polished. Bioshock is just as great a game if not better in some peoples opinion. Check out reviews on Gamepro,Electronic Gaming Monthly,and IGN.com Bioshock has higher review scores than Crysis does. Not much higher but my point is made as to the watered down and a little more polished comment I think bioshock is a better game than COD4. Lets be real COD4 does get a boost in hype from its online play features and popularity d/t war games being a big thing b/c of the war in iraq. COd4 also sees more popularity d/t the simple fact that it is a sequel unlike Bioshock whose name only came to extreme popularity this last year. Cod4 alreay had a gerat reputation behind its name that would also contribute to its sells and popularity. Not saying COD4 is not great but in the actual 1 player mode i prefer Bioshock over Cod4. Now with the online play included into the picture yeah COD4 should be game of the year even if bioshock does outscore it on reviews as well. All the games in the top could be argued on as Game of the year b/c everyone is different in what they like.
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4620.4.2008 17:39

As they said in the nursery rhy,e. Nintendo went weeeeeeeee all the way home with a smile on its face :)

4720.4.2008 18:00

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Bioshock is a meek FPS Cryisis has alil more polish on it but my god Bioshock is watered down,its a real console FPS like deus ex 2 was....
I know crysis has the best graphics to date but I would not exactly call Bioshock watered down and crysis alil more polished. Bioshock is just as great a game if not better in some peoples opinion. Check out reviews on Gamepro,Electronic Gaming Monthly,and IGN.com Bioshock has higher review scores than Crysis does. Not much higher but my point is made as to the watered down and a little more polished comment I think bioshock is a better game than COD4. Lets be real COD4 does get a boost in hype from its online play features and popularity d/t war games being a big thing b/c of the war in iraq. COd4 also sees more popularity d/t the simple fact that it is a sequel unlike Bioshock whose name only came to extreme popularity this last year. Cod4 alreay had a gerat reputation behind its name that would also contribute to its sells and popularity. Not saying COD4 is not great but in the actual 1 player mode i prefer Bioshock over Cod4. Now with the online play included into the picture yeah COD4 should be game of the year even if bioshock does outscore it on reviews as well. All the games in the top could be argued on as Game of the year b/c everyone is different in what they like.

half those "reviews" are influenced by publishers or didyou forget the Kayne and lynch debalcail?
So I discount them almost completely becuse they are mainstream focused not kepign the industry aware its its fall from grace.

Biosock is half assed and unfinished and the PC port is a fcking joke, sorry but I find the presudo equipment/inventory replacement system (plasmids) is under developed as is the weapon mod system and elvel design, what part of "real console FPS" do you not understand its dues ex 2 all over again.

Even Dark messhia is slightly better because they worked on the gameplay and level design more than Bioshock did, BS is a tossed together FPS with heavily raped AI and RPG themes,its a disgrace to the FPS/FP RPG genre.

As a shooter its just another 5/6 mediocre title.

As for Crysis being "better"... when it comes to polish on engine and control the game just offers loads more polish, when it comes down to gameplay its no worse than BS I give it about a 6 mainly due to repetitively, sure tis a open sand box game but theres noting new outside a few cliche weapons without evolving ability's and more gadgets to spice up gameplay its just another run of the mill shooter.

4820.4.2008 22:26

Old thread i know. Crysis was No where near comparison to bioshock, crysis was better all round sure more guns would have been nice.

but crysis's true game experince lie's within MP maps.

and crysis was a test more than anything,too see if they could polish the old sandbox engine,and keep it for the upcoming FARCRY2.
they didn't however Redeveloped the sandbox engine, sandbox2.

in any case have you a computer that can run it, pick up crysis good game better Multi-Play.

4920.4.2008 22:39

Originally posted by DXR88:
Old thread i know. Crysis was No where near comparison to bioshock, crysis was better all round sure more guns would have been nice.

but crysis's true game experince lie's within MP maps.

and crysis was a test more than anything,too see if they could polish the old sandbox engine,and keep it for the upcoming FARCRY2.
they didn't however Redeveloped the sandbox engine, sandbox2.

in any case have you a computer that can run it, pick up crysis good game better Multi-Play.
meh I ran Cryisis easier on a older computer than UT3...so meh,

My point with Cry V BS is BS was a casual focused game poorly deved outside that focus(th4 PC version is broken and has locked keys and what not what moron makes a PC game that dose not bind to anything you toss at it?),Cryisis is not without faults but at least the devs took the time to build the options and controls right.

BS is just pooed out with garlering issues and no one seems to bat an eye or worse yet right off poor and questionable gameplay mechanics as "oh we are not a RPG any more" or "look its a new game with SS2 under tones we can;t hate it".......



and ya I am hating the world about right now too :P

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