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Sony confirms movie download service coming for PS3

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 26 Jun 2008 13:20 User comments (33)

Sony confirms movie download service coming for PS3 Sony has confirmed that it will be bringing its anticipated movie download service to US PlayStation 3 users this summer. The PlayStation Network will be Sony's first service to offer the movie downloads and the service will move to the popular handheld PSP later in the year.
Kazuo Hirai, head of the PlayStation division, said that they service will also be available to Japanese and European users as well, but details wont be available until next month at least.

Any official details will be revealed at the upcoming E3 expo in July, added Hirai. He also noted that they company was continuously cutting costs to achieve profitability for the division by the Q2 2009.

"Please expect more from our evolving PlayStation business,"
Hirai told reporters.

With the announcement, also came word, through Sony documentation that the company was planning to offer a similar service through its video-capable Walkman line and through Internet Link enabled BRAVIA LCD TVs. No other details were available yet however.

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33 user comments

126.6.2008 13:55

wheres the enws? (hehehehe)

I guess the summer(?) date is the news. :P

226.6.2008 14:07

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
wheres the enws? (hehehehe)

I guess the summer(?) date is the news. :P
Dont make me come over there Zippy :-O lol

326.6.2008 14:19

Does anybody think that Sony bought out Stage 6 so that they could "sell" movies, instead of Stage 6 offering them for free? just a question...
Stage 6 was free, offering movies for download. Kind of ironic..and yet Stage 6 didn't offer any excuse for the reasoning behind shutting down..makes ya think huh?

426.6.2008 14:29

DVDBack23
:P


bdoggie08
only if you can post to it like you could stage 6...I was about to move my mod videos there and then the bastards go and pull the service...

youtube has managed to hose not 1 but 2 accounts because they don't know who owns what CP anymore ><

and veoh sucks ads+crappy qaulity...I don't think so.....

526.6.2008 14:34

well, i downloaded a lot of movies on my PS3 with Stage 6, But with no Stage 6 anymore, kinda makes you think. Did anyone else download their movies with the PS3? It was so cool to be able to do that, and get old school movies or new screener movies to show my buddies and stuff. Thanks Zippy for the input btw.

626.6.2008 14:39

Hurray for more features! Keep 'em coming Sony. The PS3 is looking alot more attractive with every new feature and updates =)

726.6.2008 15:40

Originally posted by bdoggie08:
well, i downloaded a lot of movies on my PS3 with Stage 6, But with no Stage 6 anymore, kinda makes you think. Did anyone else download their movies with the PS3? It was so cool to be able to do that, and get old school movies or new screener movies to show my buddies and stuff. Thanks Zippy for the input btw.
when did you download movies from stage 6 on the ps3? stage 6 never worked on the ps3 for me, i assumed it was because there was no divx webplayer included in the divx update.

only thing i can think is that you were using linux????

anyway i think you are bang on with what you are saying, its the same reason why we will never see an upgraded flash player on the ps3, sony dont want us using websites like hulu to watch shows when we could buy the episode from them for a couple bucks.

826.6.2008 15:42

Quote:
Originally posted by bdoggie08:
well, i downloaded a lot of movies on my PS3 with Stage 6, But with no Stage 6 anymore, kinda makes you think. Did anyone else download their movies with the PS3? It was so cool to be able to do that, and get old school movies or new screener movies to show my buddies and stuff. Thanks Zippy for the input btw.
when did you download movies from stage 6 on the ps3? stage 6 never worked on the ps3 for me, i assumed it was because there was no divx webplayer included in the divx update.

only thing i can think is that you were using linux????

anyway i think you are bang on with what you are saying, its the same reason why we will never see an upgraded flash player on the ps3, sony dont want us using websites like hulu to watch shows when we could buy the episode from them for a couple bucks.
at least you can go lunix and avoid the lock the 360 is hog tied 0-o

926.6.2008 17:23

Quote:
Originally posted by bdoggie08:
well, i downloaded a lot of movies on my PS3 with Stage 6, But with no Stage 6 anymore, kinda makes you think. Did anyone else download their movies with the PS3? It was so cool to be able to do that, and get old school movies or new screener movies to show my buddies and stuff. Thanks Zippy for the input btw.
when did you download movies from stage 6 on the ps3? stage 6 never worked on the ps3 for me, i assumed it was because there was no divx webplayer included in the divx update.

only thing i can think is that you were using linux????

anyway i think you are bang on with what you are saying, its the same reason why we will never see an upgraded flash player on the ps3, sony dont want us using websites like hulu to watch shows when we could buy the episode from them for a couple bucks.
Nah dude, it worked for me, you just have to know how to do it. You had to click under the video "download video" and it would download to the HDD. That's how it worked. I still have a bunch of DivX movies on my PS3. No linux either, i used the XMB. And i didn't use the Web Browser to view the videos, i saved them to my HDD using the "download video" option under the no-working web browser video player that was provided on Stage6..Now do you remember?? BTW, it was really hard to see, but the Download video option was there dude. I have about 60 divx movies on my HDD...
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1026.6.2008 18:16

I am kind of surprised at this and I am not at the same time as the XBox has had this for a while.

I am wondering which movies will be offered, as well as the DRM limits imposed on the media, but knowing Sony they will probably start with their own stuff first then expand later if it works out.

I do like however, that they try to integrate capabilities from their own stuff such as the BRAVIA TVs and Walkman line. For the folks who enjoy buying Sony products its great.

1126.6.2008 19:38

I used Stage 6 to download MANY DIVX films to my PS3 HDD. It involved manipulation of the download link sometimes though. I still use other sites to do this. None of them are as good as Stage 6 was, but it is still possible to get films directly to the HDD from the web browser.

1226.6.2008 19:46

I downloaded movies from stage6 also, i just used the URL shortcut to get them.

1326.6.2008 20:04

We will see how much it cost and what the restricitions are...but hopefully it will work well for my PS3 and Walkman.

1426.6.2008 20:05

Maybe they figure most PS3 owners down already have a PC and a zillion Divx movies?

Sharp as oranges those suits are..

1527.6.2008 5:53
nobrainer
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So then is this media going to be open to use on all your devices or is it another SONY propertarian format locked to only their manufactured devices, or with anti-consumer restricted licensing that takes away your ownership of the media dictating that you are not allowed to sell, lend or even give the media away?





Has any other movie studio signed up for this or is it just SONY studios?

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1727.6.2008 9:46

Why do you care to ask? You will not buy a Sony product or service. Why comment?

Sounds good. How long does it take to download a 1-1/2 hour movie.

1827.6.2008 12:36
nobrainer
Inactive

Originally posted by glassd:
Why do you care to ask? You will not buy a Sony product or service. Why comment?

Sounds good. How long does it take to download a 1-1/2 hour movie.
i ask as if it is locked to sony only products, ppl should understand this, and not hidden in the eula in very small print only readable after you have purchase the content and the content not being refundable.

if this is the case it should state this in big red letters on the front, if it is open to using media you have purchased on your other devices without having to purchase multiple copies for each device then this is great news.

1927.6.2008 13:14

It is in BOLD that it is for the PS3 and PSP. Later on it may also be for BRAVA TV's and the Walkman. This excludes all other devices. I would figure the BOLD would have made it pretty clear. You do not have any of these SONY devices, so why would you download any of this or care since you are not going to use it.

2027.6.2008 13:14

Quote:
i ask as if it is locked to sony only products, ppl should understand this, and not hidden in the eula in very small print only readable after you have purchase the content and the content not being refundable.

if this is the case it should state this in big red letters on the front, if it is open to using media you have purchased on your other devices without having to purchase multiple copies for each device then this is great news.
Excellent point and this is how it should be with all restrictive software. However, I think the majority that are concerned about this type of DRM would be the pirates and then the DRM is doing it's job. I doubt that the typical user, who doesn't pirate or download or try to hack and modify their consoles, would actually notice. It would be interesting to see some numbers of just how much piracy in being seen with the PS3 vs. legit usage.


2127.6.2008 13:27

That percentage would be probably likely at around 0.05% as the only "supposed" method requires a certain early firmware and a dev unit PS3 running some bit of half assed code to get just a few titles working as newer titles need newer firmware to run either from the HD or BD-R. Though this is all conjecture as nobody has EVER shown any video or proof of an actual FULL game (not one masked as a demo) to run on a PS3. Honestly it boggles my mind how devs don't see this as a MAJOR advantage to protect their investments considering the other 2 (360 & Wii) have been publicly compromised (so far).


2227.6.2008 13:41
nobrainer
Inactive

Originally posted by LOCOENG:
Quote:
i ask as if it is locked to sony only products, ppl should understand this, and not hidden in the eula in very small print only readable after you have purchase the content and the content not being refundable.

if this is the case it should state this in big red letters on the front, if it is open to using media you have purchased on your other devices without having to purchase multiple copies for each device then this is great news.
Excellent point and this is how it should be with all restrictive software. However, I think the majority that are concerned about this type of DRM would be the pirates and then the DRM is doing it's job. I doubt that the typical user, who doesn't pirate or download or try to hack and modify their consoles, would actually notice. It would be interesting to see some numbers of just how much piracy in being seen with the PS3 vs. legit usage.
moving the divx file you have purchased onto your ipod so you can watch it on your way home is not pirating the media and this is the restrictions that need to be highlighted on the front of the product or next to the "buy now" tab and seems the divx drm is locked to 1 user multiple devices can be achieved easily if sony choose to allow this instead of just locking it to their branded hardware.

but i do not know if the locks will be to only sony or open or if any other movie studios have even signed upto this venture other than obviously sony.


2327.6.2008 13:48

dude, i have read you posts lately. Is there something you have against sony or something?

2427.6.2008 18:27

I have something against Sony. Can you spell ''rootkit''? I have many Sony consumer electronic products. Doesn't mean I respect their practices. When I buy media, it's MINE. I will do as I wish with it. I didn't buy a ''license'' or sign any agreement. The last Sony media I bought has the phrase; Unauthorized Reproduction violates...Sony Pictures Home Entertainment's standard terms of trade. I signed no ''terms''. I back up my media. I format shift my media. This is legal! Sony does all it can do to make this difficult and sometimes impossible. They are the WORST! Running a close 2nd is Disney. There are too many users here now so ''gee golly gee whiz wow'' over technical possibilities and options and enamored of Sony and others like them to miss what is happening. It's not about PIRACY, but making you pay for EACH play of ANYTHING! nobrainer sees this. He gets gang mobbed. Including some mods. I've been about here for over 5 years. I am NOT a newbie to the world of technology and it's shenanigans but I am also NOT a prolific poster. I read Afterdawn News every day without fail. At LEAST once. I go to many Tech sites. This site is going back to read only. Impress yourselves.

2527.6.2008 21:01

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I back up my media. I format shift my media. This is legal!
That actually depends on which article you are reading...the Fair Use Act or DMCA. Fair Use states that it is lawful to make a backup of your purchased items, then DMCA comes along and states it is illegal to circumvent the copy protection found on those items. It's a double edged sword and in the end if you do make a backup it is illegal if you live in the U.S.A. Of course the laws are different from country to country so it may be perfectly legal where you live.


2627.6.2008 21:11
varnull
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I have a simple rule.. If it has one brand or one user drm I leave it with them and keep my cash.

I have the same problem with our public compulsory subscription supported service broadcaster.. they say "buy windows or you can't access content you have paid for".. stick it.. they can keep it and I will be very vocal in my objection to being RIPPED OFF!!

Luckily apart from my second hand chipped ps1's I don't have ANY sony electronics.. and I won't be buying any at some point in the future. I hope this flawed plan ends up costing then, then I can sit in my drm free world and laugh my fekkin ass off at them and all their poor deluded fans!

2728.6.2008 9:21

You see but your system is flawed Varnull. While you are "laughing" at people they are laughing harder back at you since there are ways to get around these restrictions. So it ends up being all for not and you end up missing out on some aspects/experiences. I wholeheartedly agree that if I paid my money for something it is mine, plain and simple and no law is going to change that to me.

If I want to protect my media and have a backup I will do so, I want to watch a disc I paid for on my PSP, Ipod, PC or whatever I will do so and I will do so however possible. Nobody can tell me what I can do with something I own, it is mine, I paid for it and it's none of your business once it is MY property. People shouldn't let DRM, root kits or copy protection bother them so much, just let it go and deal with it. It doesn't bother me as many thousands of other Ad'ers would agree.


2828.6.2008 10:53
nobrainer
Inactive

Originally posted by Oner:
You see but your system is flawed Varnull. While you are "laughing" at people they are laughing harder back at you since there are ways to get around these restrictions. So it ends up being all for not and you end up missing out on some aspects/experiences. I wholeheartedly agree that if I paid my money for something it is mine, plain and simple and no law is going to change that to me.

If I want to protect my media and have a backup I will do so, I want to watch a disc I paid for on my PSP, Ipod, PC or whatever I will do so and I will do so however possible. Nobody can tell me what I can do with something I own, it is mine, I paid for it and it's none of your business once it is MY property. People shouldn't let DRM, root kits or copy protection bother them so much, just let it go and deal with it. It doesn't bother me as many thousands of other Ad'ers would agree.
its all very well saying that oner, but to you and me and many computer savey users yes its easy to use media in a way we wish to but for the majority of the public they are even unaware of DRM, and there are no warnings on the front of products showing ppl the restricted licence or usage as sales would be effected if anti-consumer was printed for all to see.

I know how to bypass most DRM but i'm not an "i'm alright jack" sort of person, i am fighting for everyone.

2928.6.2008 11:26

Some people (millions actually) just don't care about DRM; as they buy what they want and are happy with that. So to "fight" for people the way you do is unnecessary, why not contribute on how to bypass it as that is much more helpful than complaining about it all the time.


3028.6.2008 11:35
nobrainer
Inactive

Originally posted by Oner:
Some people (millions actually) just don't care about DRM; as they buy what they want and are happy with that. So to "fight" for people the way you do is unnecessary, why not contribute on how to bypass it as that is much more helpful than complaining about it all the time.
I'm not a reverse engineer so that is impossible.

3128.6.2008 12:01

I agree most don't care about DRM and when they do start caring I've got my fingers crossed that they find AD and come here where we can help them make the most out of their investments.



328.7.2008 13:38

I do as well disagree with the tactics of the drm and copy protection. To me it's saying one thing, we do not stand behind the quality of our product. That is what my main complaint is.... If I go and buy a product from a store that is not a video game, or movie and it doesn't work, or doesn't work the way i thought it would, i would return it. My money would leave with me as i left the store. I know what your thinking, but video games and movies are more of entertainment products, yes they are so would they not be considered more of a service then? There was a time where Americans would go to see a movie in the theater and should that movie not be what they liked, they would ask and receive their money back. Whats going on now is bad business, and i do not support bad business. If they chose to say that i can't return a movie that i found to be lacking in the artistic taste that was searching for in entertainment, then i will not pay. It's that simple. As far as restriction to one device that is their choice as a device maker, the way things are looking we have quite a few countries that are either going thru or are going to be going thru their industrial revolutions. So they will continue to make us products that don't comply with the bad business of restrictive companies. You know what I'm talking about if you have ever got your hands on an Apex dvd player, an awesome device with no region chip. (the Apex dvd player i had came from walmart[love the walmart] it would play cdda, mp3, jpg, vcd, svcd, dvd, cd/dvd-r, cd/dvd-rw, and cd-g) :-D
So feel no worry my friends.....
we hold all the cards......
we are the consumer and the companies bend to our will, they have just forgotten this unchangeable fact. Oh and don't forget the sneeker net is alive and well. ;-)
It's what the general public(noob) uses.

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