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Wii "is not hurting us" says Sony's Stringer

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 29 Aug 2008 15:31 User comments (67)

Wii "is not hurting us" says Sony's Stringer Sony CEO Howard Stringer was recently asked if the PlayStation 3 was suffering as a result of the Nintendo Wii's very strong sales but he said it was not despite the fact that Nintendo probably has the "superior business model".
"The Wii is a well-made device that has found a new target group. For a while, we held the same target group with the SingStar karaoke game. But perhaps we neglected to pursue that avenue," Stringer said. "PlayStation games are rather designed for those who play a lot. Although it's a different strategy, it pays off. We currently have a production bottleneck with the PlayStation 3."

"You also know, however, that our business model is not perfect, and that we make a loss on every console we sell," he confessed. "Nintendo makes money with the hardware alone, which may be a superior business model. But the Wii is not succeeding at our expense - it is not hurting us."

Stringer continued, "We are already making more money with the games than we are losing with the hardware."

In a funny confession, Stringer also admitted that it would take the company a very long time to recover the estimated $3 billion USD that it spent bringing the PS3 to the market.

"It will certainly take some time... We are currently at the stage in which we need to get a grip on the production costs. That takes time."

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129.8.2008 16:02

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oy.......

229.8.2008 17:17

Someone needs to fire that guy. Look at all the complete asinine things he's said in the past.

329.8.2008 17:22

Forgive me if I am wrong here...but every dollar taken out of the market by your competitor is a dollar not going to your product right?
Now they say the WII is not a "competitor" I can by that in pat but only enough to say that HALF of that dollar is taken thus they have lost billions to the WII's competition....

429.8.2008 17:58

I don't think I can name a single person that's said "I don't think I'll buy a PS3, I'll have a Wii instead". I agree with this guy, it's not in the same league. The true gamer has either a Wii and a PS3, or perhaps preferably a Wii and a 360, all three if you're a rich guy. However, those who have to make do typically slot into one of two groups almost automatically, the kind who would want a Wii, and the kind who would want a 360 or PS3, there's just no real crossover.

529.8.2008 18:02

Actually he isn't wrong the Wii & PS3 are two totally different systems aim at different groups of peoples.Wii sells are strong but so are PS3 & PS3 sells are getting stronger.I don't think PS3 will pass Wii in the next two years but who knows As Sony have said this isn't a sprint its a marathon PS3 is more future proof than Wii.

629.8.2008 18:06

The Wii was never set out to be futureproof, it's absolutely archaic, but it's still incredibly popular, and even attractive to high-end graphics-munchers like myself. It's a console that's fun, in the same way Pacman doesn't need good graphics or realistic physics, neither do most Wii games.

729.8.2008 18:07

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Forgive me if I am wrong here...but every dollar taken out of the market by your competitor is a dollar not going to your product right?
Mmm mews fuzzy logic =^^= *scratch* Zippy dollars can be regained. if i bought a Wii and then bought a PS3. they both got mews Cash Seez.

the Wii is marketed toward the younger audience what it lacks in power it makes up for with innovation.

Both the PS3 and XBox360 are geared toward the more mature gamer as in older gamers.

the Wii has nothing that it can compete with, its having a wonderful time.

i was turned away from the Wii because of the controls. i was also turned off by the DS, im sorry i just like the old buttons an D-pad anyday the use of the stylus on most Good DS games was a let down.

829.8.2008 18:11

I'll be honest, I was never a real fan of the DS other than for Brain Training, and it's a bit expensive to use just for that... :P
As for the Wii being targeted towards younger audiences, while I agree it's the only current console really suitable for the younger gamer, it's not solely targeted towards younger audiences...

929.8.2008 18:14

when i said younger i meant new comers

1029.8.2008 18:17

Again, I disagree. I've been playing games since the heyday of the SNES, and amongst owning a high powered gaming PC, I share a 360 with my mates, yet I still enjoy playing Wii Games - Wii Sports, the various mario-related titles (WarioWare included), the WiiFit thing is looking promising too.

1129.8.2008 18:17

Oh fck off its a game machine like any other and it DOSE compete with the PS3 however at reduced rate because its aiming at a broader spectrum of ...of...."players"..

:P

1229.8.2008 18:18

Originally posted by DXR88:
when i said younger i meant new comers

mew comers you mean *hides* LOL

1329.8.2008 18:19

Like any other? Nah.

1429.8.2008 18:23

Originally posted by sammorris:
Like any other? Nah.
yes like any other its no different in power difference than the DC,PS2,GC and Xbox, it has a new tactic aiming at non gamers but the Nin console has always aimed at families and since the N64 days has had issues with keeping normal gamers because of lack of 3rd party support ,its all nothing new really..

1529.8.2008 18:25

LOL - issues keeping gamers? errrr

1629.8.2008 18:31

Originally posted by sammorris:
LOL - issues keeping gamers? errrr
Yes Gamers, IE REAL GAMERS;
the N64 was a mess for being the next great nin system the GC took forever to snowball into place, the WII has taken off hard but has 3 or 4 real games to show for it.

So nothing is that surprising for the WII and the game plan to make profit off the hardware is earning them money as not only a game machine but a broad spectrum entertainment machine, and yes I realize I said there's not alot of real games on it but some gamers buy it still thus making it a game machine because it has both, its not like the PS3 or 360 have quirky daicodomies about themselfs...

1729.8.2008 18:33

Scenario for you. Hey guys, im 12 and i love my Wii you see mom bought because, she thought it was family oriented. so instead of bashing my brother brains out in real life i can cut him in half with GEARS of WAR WII edition. i go to a private school the wii has been teaching me many English words like whore, Prostitute And Bit*h, things they wont teach in my Christian school

1829.8.2008 18:36

Lmao - so how are you acquiring these games? Is a store lenient enough to sell games like that to a 12 year old, or is someone else bringing the goods? :P

1929.8.2008 18:40

it was a joke i doubt you will ever see games like that on Wii, aside from the occasional RE titles that make there way there. then again you always need to know how to shoot zombies in case it happens.

2029.8.2008 18:43

Isn't Dead Rising coming to the Wii? lol

2129.8.2008 18:45

sammorris... sure i taught my cousin how to get Halo 3 of of Ebay he's 9

Step 1 buy a prepaid credit card
Step 2 Go to Ebay.
Step 3 buy your mature game mommy said you couldn't have.
Step 4 Go on X-Live and talk and shoot that way every body will be like who let the 8 year old on ^^

2229.8.2008 18:46

Originally posted by sammorris:
Isn't Dead Rising coming to the Wii? lol

and house of the dead 2,3 and 4...

2329.8.2008 18:46

Originally posted by sammorris:
Isn't Dead Rising coming to the Wii? lol
Its still got zombie's.

2429.8.2008 18:47

Quote:
and house of the dead 2,3 and 4...
guess what more zombie's

2529.8.2008 18:52

So how do you pull off step 1 at 9 years old?

2629.8.2008 18:54

Originally posted by sammorris:
So how do you pull off step 1 at 9 years old?

because store clerks are not trained to tell them no on it?

2729.8.2008 18:55

you go to the store an buy a pre-paid, there not age restricting.

2829.8.2008 18:56

A Prepaid credit card, are you serious? That's absolutely crazy...

2929.8.2008 19:14
susieqbbb
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Yea right!!!!

The wii isn't hurting sales my butt.

Why pay 500.00 for a console when for the same price you can get a wii with two controllers and tons of games.

3029.8.2008 19:15

I'll give you two reasons why.

Metal Gear Solid 4
Gran Turismo 5

You will have no idea how much of an effect single-title fanboys have on console sales.

3129.8.2008 19:18

Originally posted by susieqbbb:
Yea right!!!!

The wii isn't hurting sales my butt.

Why pay 500.00 for a console when for the same price you can get a wii with two controllers and tons of games.
Define Tons

3229.8.2008 20:38

Why not spend your money on a PS2 instead of the Wii the game selection is bigger than all the other next gen and the games are cheap.Lets face it the Wii is last gen the only reason it sells is because its cheaper than the others and has that crazy controller scheme.It doesn't support High Def,barely any storage,and probably out of all the games they have maybe 3 or 4 are good.I wouldn't call myself rich just because I own all the next gen consoles,but it does take a big chunk out of your wallet.Its called saving up and buying them gradually.In my opinion the PS3 is actually the best system,but lacks support from game developers.The PS3 has been out for awhile now and nothing really stands out besides a couple of titles.I've been waiting for the longest time for Killzone 2 or something that will be interesting yet I find myself staring at games the PS3 and Xbox 360 share.The Wii is not better then an Xbox 360 or PS3 the hardware is outdated for it and it has tiddly wink games.The only thing I like off the Wii system was the Wii Sports other than that I didn't find it all that interesting.To be honest I thought the Wii was overpriced for using outdated hardware.I used to have one but gave it to my parents as a gift,because I didn't enjoy the system as much as everyone else did.Although for someone young,and maybe older people just beginning to play videogames it would probably bring enjoyment.I was disappointed with the Wii and prefer something with more skill and better quality.Hell the PS2 is built better than the Wii,and how old is the PS2 system.In all fairness I think Sony is thinking ahead of all the other console industries,and I like to see advancements instead of old technology being reused.





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3329.8.2008 22:02

Originally posted by L-Burna:
"Why not spend your money on a PS2 instead of the Wii the game selection is bigger than all the other next gen and the games are cheap."
Because 140 million, including many of aD users such as myself, already have a PS2.

And to suiseqbbb, what "ton" of games? The Wii has quite a few games, but are all but 4% of them really worth it?




3430.8.2008 0:48

(@L-Burna)What do we have here boys looks like we got us a Wii hater.

3530.8.2008 5:57
13thHouR
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What's this doublespeak, lol the fastest selling console of all time, that is selling 6 to 1 the amount of the ps3 is not hurting sales, yeah right.

Even if you own all 3 pieces of hardware do you go out and purchase a game for all 3 at the same time?

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3630.8.2008 7:25

Anyone who judges how good a console the Wii is based on its hardware hasn't grasped the point of the Wii at all, and should therefore not be allowed to judge it.




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3730.8.2008 11:21

Originally posted by DXR88:
(@L-Burna)What do we have here boys looks like we got us a Wii hater.
Yeah I don't like the Wii and will not buy into Nintendo crap again.Its outdated hardware no matter how much you hype it up to be.The system uses Dvd as media,and SD as storage which is nothing new.The PS2 on the other hand can use a harddrive better storage capability and it used Dvd not much different in my opinion except for the controller.I don't consider a controller making a system next gen,and the system is not built for the future like the Xbox 360 or the PS3.I can judge a system by its hardware if I'm buying it,unlike most users I don't buy a system because of its sells.

Wii=overpriced outdated system with nothing to offer for the future

@sammorris let me know what is so special about the Wii and I will show you the difference between it to the other next gen consoles.

As I mentioned the Wii sells because its cheap and the majority of people can't afford the PS3.The reason the PS3 isn't popular is because of its cost,and the reason it costs so much is because it uses Blu-Ray a High Def media built for the future.

3830.8.2008 11:22

Lolfanboys

3930.8.2008 11:31

Originally posted by L-Burna:
Why not spend your money on a PS2 instead of the Wii the game selection is bigger than all the other next gen and the games are cheap.Lets face it the Wii is last gen the only reason it sells is because its cheaper than the others and has that crazy controller scheme.It doesn't support High Def,barely any storage,and probably out of all the games they have maybe 3 or 4 are good.I wouldn't call myself rich just because I own all the next gen consoles,but it does take a big chunk out of your wallet.Its called saving up and buying them gradually.In my opinion the PS3 is actually the best system,but lacks support from game developers.The PS3 has been out for awhile now and nothing really stands out besides a couple of titles.I've been waiting for the longest time for Killzone 2 or something that will be interesting yet I find myself staring at games the PS3 and Xbox 360 share.The Wii is not better then an Xbox 360 or PS3 the hardware is outdated for it and it has tiddly wink games.The only thing I like off the Wii system was the Wii Sports other than that I didn't find it all that interesting.To be honest I thought the Wii was overpriced for using outdated hardware.I used to have one but gave it to my parents as a gift,because I didn't enjoy the system as much as everyone else did.Although for someone young,and maybe older people just beginning to play videogames it would probably bring enjoyment.I was disappointed with the Wii and prefer something with more skill and better quality.Hell the PS2 is built better than the Wii,and how old is the PS2 system.In all fairness I think Sony is thinking ahead of all the other console industries,and I like to see advancements instead of old technology being reused.

i finally got a PS3 for the first time. a used 60gb model for like 220 bux! awesome!!!

but it sucks! why do people get these things. i thought it would be cool to finally have one. but i dont even wanna play it. i guess u can say the real reason i got it was to play blu-ray movies.

the PS3 sucks. no support from 3rd party, and honestly even good japanese made games suck on it.

360 just is better. yeah u have to play to use online multiplayer. but its worth it. plus the XBL has more content.

the PSN has like 8 PS3 demo's. wow. lame. and u have to install them just to play them? no thanks.

i dont see how Sony PS3 fanboys can stick up for this system. even if it was as cheap as i paid for it. it would still suck! its a PS2 with a PSP dashboard plain and simple.

call me a xbox fanboy. but if sony didnt try to copy stuff from xbox, i wouldn't be blabbing right now *cough, trophies, cough*

4030.8.2008 11:34

I think that's maybe a little harsh... :)

4130.8.2008 11:52

Originally posted by sammorris:
Lolfanboys
If giving the PS3 props for making a system built to last for the future is considered being a fanboy then so be it.You still didn't give me a reason why the Wii is better than the other next gen consoles.Its ok if you like the Wii,but make sure your know what you are talking about.The Wii isn't next gen from my point of view unless they make hardware adjustments.It doesn't support HDMI and doesn't have a good solution for storage.It sells and I agree its popular,but it can't be compared to systems that are made for the future such as the Xbox 360 and the PS3.The difference is High Def resolution and storage which the Wii doesn't offer.If you own the other next gen consoles you would be able to tell the difference.Its sells are based on the hardware of the system.Nintendo can market the Wii cheaper,because it doesn't use technology made for the future its as simple as that.You can't compare apples and oranges which is what the majority of people are trying to do.I don't consider the PS3 being in jeopardy over the Wii and the Xbox 360 is more advanced than the Wii as well.Using the fanboy remarks doesn't backup your statement at all and it doesn't contribute to the discussion.

my example and contribution to the ridiculous fanboy remarks:
It sounds like we have multiple fanboys,because they get offended when the facts are pointed out to them.

4230.8.2008 11:55

I'm well aware the Wii isn't next gen. It doesn't need to be, that's not the point. The Wii is fun regardless of its lack of technical specficiation. I wish some of the wii titles had the option of HD graphics, I think most Wii users have, but ultimately, its it's lower cost family-orientation that has made it the success story it has been. Nintendo's gamble not to keep up with Sony and MS has paid off brilliantly for them, and I'm glad.

4330.8.2008 12:02

Quote:
Originally posted by L-Burna:
Why not spend your money on a PS2 instead of the Wii the game selection is bigger than all the other next gen and the games are cheap.Lets face it the Wii is last gen the only reason it sells is because its cheaper than the others and has that crazy controller scheme.It doesn't support High Def,barely any storage,and probably out of all the games they have maybe 3 or 4 are good.I wouldn't call myself rich just because I own all the next gen consoles,but it does take a big chunk out of your wallet.Its called saving up and buying them gradually.In my opinion the PS3 is actually the best system,but lacks support from game developers.The PS3 has been out for awhile now and nothing really stands out besides a couple of titles.I've been waiting for the longest time for Killzone 2 or something that will be interesting yet I find myself staring at games the PS3 and Xbox 360 share.The Wii is not better then an Xbox 360 or PS3 the hardware is outdated for it and it has tiddly wink games.The only thing I like off the Wii system was the Wii Sports other than that I didn't find it all that interesting.To be honest I thought the Wii was overpriced for using outdated hardware.I used to have one but gave it to my parents as a gift,because I didn't enjoy the system as much as everyone else did.Although for someone young,and maybe older people just beginning to play videogames it would probably bring enjoyment.I was disappointed with the Wii and prefer something with more skill and better quality.Hell the PS2 is built better than the Wii,and how old is the PS2 system.In all fairness I think Sony is thinking ahead of all the other console industries,and I like to see advancements instead of old technology being reused.

i finally got a PS3 for the first time. a used 60gb model for like 220 bux! awesome!!!

but it sucks! why do people get these things. i thought it would be cool to finally have one. but i dont even wanna play it. i guess u can say the real reason i got it was to play blu-ray movies.

the PS3 sucks. no support from 3rd party, and honestly even good japanese made games suck on it.

360 just is better. yeah u have to play to use online multiplayer. but its worth it. plus the XBL has more content.

the PSN has like 8 PS3 demo's. wow. lame. and u have to install them just to play them? no thanks.

i dont see how Sony PS3 fanboys can stick up for this system. even if it was as cheap as i paid for it. it would still suck! its a PS2 with a PSP dashboard plain and simple.

call me a xbox fanboy. but if sony didnt try to copy stuff from xbox, i wouldn't be blabbing right now *cough, trophies, cough*
I'm not sure what you are talking about,but the PS3 Blu-Ray player alone is enough to buy it from your point of view.How is the Blu-Ray player considered equal to the PS2 which uses dvd media.I agree they haven't released much yet for the PS3 in games,but the majority of games released are on both systems the PS3 and Xbox 360.I do see a couple exclusives on both systems,and you didn't even give input on the Wii which is the main arguement not the Xbox 360 which in all honesty I like as well.You gotta give props to the PS3 system for coming out with the Blu-Ray player already built in though,because all the other consoles don't support it.I know the Xbox 360 can store High Def content on its harddrive,but I don't see it having Blu-Ray media playback.

4430.8.2008 12:04

Right now, that is the big sell of the PS3, bluray. Now that HD-DVD is extinct though, prices for BluRay do seem to be falling, and given how ludicrously unreliable the copy protection system for BluRay is, you'd probably be better off using a PC to watch it as you can look up on the net why it won't work while you're at it... :P

4530.8.2008 12:09

Originally posted by sammorris:
I'm well aware the Wii isn't next gen. It doesn't need to be, that's not the point. The Wii is fun regardless of its lack of technical specficiation. I wish some of the wii titles had the option of HD graphics, I think most Wii users have, but ultimately, its it's lower cost family-orientation that has made it the success story it has been. Nintendo's gamble not to keep up with Sony and MS has paid off brilliantly for them, and I'm glad.
Lets go back to sells then shall we how much do you think it cost to build a Wii and how much do you think it cost to build a PS3 system.I'm sure you can figure out the reason now why the Wii sells more than the PS3.It sells because its cheap,but to compare it to the PS3 and the Xbox 360 doesn't make sense to me at all.Its completely different its like comparing the PS2 to the Wii which is what I was referring to.

4630.8.2008 12:35

I agree with that, I don't think the two should be compared.

4730.8.2008 23:51

Ok quick question whats with the 360 fanboys in a wii and ps3 article?

4831.8.2008 1:14

Originally posted by canuckerz:
Ok quick question whats with the 360 fanboys in a wii and ps3 article?
Why is the word fanboy being used constantly everytime people comment on an article discussion about consoles?

I think I'm gonna start posting questions everytime the word fanboy is used to understand it better.Its being used quite frequently and must be better than actually posting something useful.No offense canuckerz,but I'm almost positive you can contribute something better as in more thought to your post besides the fanboy comment.




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4931.8.2008 8:24

uhg.....
lets make an example.....
Game market is made of about 45% causal gamers,30% hardcore(causal) gamers and 25% non gamers, non gamers are the full spectrum of people who buy a game and let it get dusty rarely buying more games?

With casual being the brunt of "gamers" guess who's buying the WII mofos?!?!!? And do not tell me if the WII was not there all that money displaced by it would not be going to the 360 or the PS3, there go its COMPETING!!!!!!!!

Just because you dislike the WII and do not think its worthy of your time dose not misplace the fact that it is competing because the brunt of WIIs market say 50-70% would be spending money on either a 360 or a PS3 if the WII was not there, to say it's not competing is a fallacy of the gleeful fanboy.

Now I will give you it's not directly competing for neck and neck placement in the industry but... it dose not have to it is making such a profit normal rules do not apply simply remove the WII from the market you have millions if not billions that would be spent world wide for the other game systems, because of this fact it is competing.
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5031.8.2008 10:15

What is classed as being next gen? upgraded hardware or something revolutionary which hasn't been done before?

The Wii's control system is the only thing that I have seen that makes the Wii next gen. So what if it doesn't have a billion ghz processor? or a 40gb harddrive?
The xbox 360 and the PS3 have had added hardware revisions from their predecessors (ps2, xbox), and things that have been added to the latest consoles, have already been possible on PC'S for years (Storage, online play etc..) so that's nothing new in terms of gameplay. Blu-ray is a bit of an exception, but to be honest it's no where near mainstream, same with HD, in the UK at least..were still on analogue here. You can get blu-ray players for PC, although not cheap it's not really important at this moment in time because it isn't the norm.
So we've seen things that have already been around in the new systems on PC's for a fair while yet we've not seen anything as complete as the Wii's remote system which actually provides a completely different idea of gameplay...remember games consoles were originally thought up so you could play games at home? So all you bloody annoying PS3/xbox fanboys get over yourself. your systems are just upgrades and stop being pissy about the Wii's success. Who cares if it is just basically a gamecube in a suit. Hardware is really not everything you know...and it certainly doesn't make a console next gen, if its using hardware which has already been around..

5131.8.2008 10:31

hampson21
Next gen is whatever the hell they are doing now.
its a misnomer or popularized saying like nazi and fanboy I think.

5231.8.2008 10:39

I should mention this as well most kids play videogames.The younger they are the less money they have.The majority of sells for game consoles originates from kids.I don't know what the ratio is,but yeah kids make up the sells.If I was a parent I wouldn't want to spend the money for a PS3 instead I would buy a Wii for my kid.Its not next gen and I classify it in its own category.To say the Wii hasn't been revised when Nintendo has been around longer than the other game industries is false information.Lets be honest with each other I don't see kids walking around with enough money to spend on a PS3 or an Xbox 360.They mainly rely on their parents to spend the money,and its true a parent is not going to spend the kind of money needed to produce a next gen console.It might not be next gen,but it is cheap and this is the marketing scheme Nintendo used for this console.I admit I'm not crazy about the Wii,but considering how much money it takes to make the Xbox 360 and the PS3 they can't compete in the price range as the Wii without losing profit.When we talk about sells profit plays a big role wouldn't you agree.I don't think MS and Sony are making profit,because they are already marketing their system for less when it takes more money to produce the consoles they make.

5331.8.2008 10:47

L-Burna
and I thought I was a game nazi, then WOW must not be next gen because its not "pretty" enough, BALLCOCKS!

Next gen is whatever they are doing N O W,I will admit the more pretty the more next gen it is, however pretty alone dose not make or break it. And before you diss the WII more try looking up Conduit its gunning for 360 graphics albeit year 1 360graphics but still LOL

5431.8.2008 10:51

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
hampson21
Next gen is whatever the hell they are doing now.
its a misnomer or popularized saying like nazi and fanboy I think.
Next gen is short for next generation I compare it through hardware.If you look at most game sites they classify consoles in categories first generation,second generation,third generation,next generation etc...Nintendo,Sony,and MS have multiple consoles made that differ by generation.The word nazi and fanboy are smart ass remarks that don't mean jack.




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5531.8.2008 11:10

Originally posted by L-Burna:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
hampson21
Next gen is whatever the hell they are doing now.
its a misnomer or popularized saying like nazi and fanboy I think.
Next gen is short for next generation I compare it through hardware.If you look at most game sites they classify consoles in categories first generation,second generation,third generation,next generation etc...Nintendo,Sony,and MS have multiple consoles made that differ by generation.The word nazi and fanboy are smart ass remarks that don't mean jack.
Depending on the context there of ..."don't mean jack"....don't mean sht.=^^=

There are 7 generations of consoles, Next gen generally refers to whatever is most "hip" in the current generation referring to not only what is coming but what is current and oh so popular, if you can't read in between my drunken liens of text popular=pretty *kisshugluff*.

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5631.8.2008 11:11

How long did the PS One sell after the PS2 came out? How long did the PS2 sell after the 360 came out? Not everybody buys next gen consoles, not everybody wants them.

5731.8.2008 11:18

It means more than that I think ZippyDSM as in it can be used for next generation of people.Not necessarily current,but for the future as well.I agree with that statement sammorris not everyone buys a console set for the future.





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5831.8.2008 12:02

2 pages of nothing but bickering going on.

L-Burna see if you don't like, your going to diss it no matter the facts.

the Wii is innovative, and has majority in market sales.

5931.8.2008 12:17

Originally posted by DXR88:
2 pages of nothing but bickering going on.

L-Burna see if you don't like, your going to diss it no matter the facts.

the Wii is innovative, and has majority in market sales.
I wouldn't call it innovative,but I agree it is popular and is leading in console sells.Nintendo is more likely to do a console revision before the PS3 and Xbox 360.I've already gave my input on the subject even if some of you dislike what I said.You can pull out what you like and dislike,but the fact is anything said that degrades this console is unacceptable from most of you.




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6031.8.2008 12:58

Quote:
Originally posted by canuckerz:
Ok quick question whats with the 360 fanboys in a wii and ps3 article?
Why is the word fanboy being used constantly everytime people comment on an article discussion about consoles?

I think I'm gonna start posting questions everytime the word fanboy is used to understand it better.Its being used quite frequently and must be better than actually posting something useful.No offense canuckerz,but I'm almost positive you can contribute something better as in more thought to your post besides the fanboy comment.
I'm just tired of people making their own mini flames in every news article. What other word could I use to describe someone who posts how much the ps3 sucks and how the 360 is so much better when the article is about the interface between nintendo and sony's market. And my fanboy comment was towards doomlight in this case, just so you dont think I ment it towards you somehow.

And imo the reason Sony isn't worried about the wii is because their target audiences are almost entirely different which I'm sure as been said before although more elaborately. Nintendo just has a bigger however different target audience.

6131.8.2008 13:05

Thanks canuckerz that sounded alot better than the last post.I'm sure you catch my drift with the fanboy word it seems like a cop out instead of actually posting something useful.I wasn't trying to put you down or anything,but using words like fanboy or nazi are as ZippyDSM said don't mean sht.=^^=

The more you can elaborate the better I think,because using these type of words for a broad meaning doesn't always catch.

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6231.8.2008 13:27

Although this is barely relevant to this article, I'm not so sure on Nintendo being the first to revamp their console. The 360 came out first this gen, and 9GB DVDs are getting a bit small for some games now. I wouldn't be surprised if something has to be done about that within the not-so-near future.

6331.8.2008 17:15

Originally posted by sammorris:
Although this is barely relevant to this article, I'm not so sure on Nintendo being the first to revamp their console. The 360 came out first this gen, and 9GB DVDs are getting a bit small for some games now. I wouldn't be surprised if something has to be done about that within the not-so-near future.
That is true,but you also forgot to mention the update that will enable games to run off the harddrive for the Xbox 360.I think it won't be long until multiple disc games are released,and installed on the harddrive.We will have to wait and see for the Xbox 360,but for Nintendo there is no work around unless the hardware is updated.

6431.8.2008 17:17

The HDDs provided with the consoles just aren't big enough for that though, especially the earlier ones, so if everybody has to buy a new HDD to pull that off I can't see it being too successful.

6531.8.2008 17:22

Originally posted by sammorris:
The HDDs provided with the consoles just aren't big enough for that though, especially the earlier ones, so if everybody has to buy a new HDD to pull that off I can't see it being too successful.
Its cheaper to buy a new HDD rather than a new console though,and this is a problem with Nintendo.You would have to buy a new console if Nintendo fixed the storage issue and made it High Def.




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6631.8.2008 17:24

But they won't. Nintendo don't need high-def graphics, and can make use of SD cards, which is enough.




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6731.8.2008 17:26

Originally posted by sammorris:
But they won't. Nintendo don't need high-def graphics, and can make use of SD cards, which is enough.
Apparently SD is not enough in one of the news articles off here Nintendo admits storage is an issue and all the channels can't be filled up.Here is the link to the article http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/14908.cfm about the storage issue.
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