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Xbox 360 will outsell PS3 for the holidays, says Microsoft

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 20 Oct 2008 23:15 User comments (74)

Xbox 360 will outsell PS3 for the holidays, says Microsoft In an interview with Kotaku, Aaron Greenberg, group product manager for Xbox 360 has said that the company is confident it's console will outsell the rival Sony PlayStation 3 for the holiday season, worldwide.
"We expect to continue our price advantage over the PlayStation 3 for a long time," said Greenberg.

"And we feel confident that we'll outsell the PS3 this holiday season in North America and in Europe. We'll do it on a global scale."

Greenberg cited the across the board price cut as well as a collection of new bundles as reasons for why the console will succeed.

"We've seen lifts across all consoles, but the Arcade is doing exceptionally well,"
added Greenberg.

The 360 has outsold the PS3 in Japan for five weeks straight and recently outsold its rival in the US for the month of September.

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74 user comments

120.10.2008 23:53

Well of course MS would say that. Im sure Sony would say the same about their PS3. Its kinda dumb if they didnt say that.

221.10.2008 0:41

does anybody else smell gasoline?

321.10.2008 0:56

Now if Microshit would only fix the RROD I might be inclined to buy one.

421.10.2008 1:01

"says Microsoft".... How optimistic of them!



521.10.2008 1:16

Originally posted by windsong:
Now if Microshit would only fix the RROD I might be inclined to buy one.
same here

621.10.2008 1:17
fdiaz430
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whats with the red ring get over it you are missing out on ton of good games i dont know if i should feel sorry for you or laugh at you for being a junior member and still not being current with your info

721.10.2008 1:43

lol @ the spam above

but on the article Aaron Greenberg, group product manager should be Aaron Greenberg, Captain Obvious, its like saying that dvds are gonna sell more then blu ray discs this christmas. this a pointless article that states obvious facts next they gonna report the wii doesn't meet consumer demands and the ds is gonna sell more then the psp this christmas.

821.10.2008 3:34

can some1 remove the spam?

kinda kills this thread

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A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.

921.10.2008 5:14
leo8013
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Your right the 360 does have a lot of good games but with the RROD if/when your machine breaks you cant play them because your machine is out getting fixed. So whats the point of having it if you cant play. I want a 360 but I am waiting till the problems are fixed. Just like most people I am not wasting my money on something I cant use.

1021.10.2008 6:15

I have had the elite for more than a year...without a problem , before that i had xbox 360 and again never had prob with rrod.

1121.10.2008 6:17
fdiaz430
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dude another one come on you guys sound like a bunch of broke pansies. i got both xbox and ps3 and a bunch of blu rays that im getting rid of some and my ps3 still sits on the shelf collecting dust the last real good game i played on it was resistance and all you ps3 fanboys be real about it ps3 is shit compared to xbox blu rays you could only watch so many times games they dont got any,online play is wack compared to live dont come here with that bogus red ring of death shit either you are broke or you bought the wrong system but dont come out with that nonsense xbox work just fine and if not they will fix it so get over it

1221.10.2008 7:15

let's all relax now and not turn this into another fanboy pissing contest
the 360 is really good, the ps3 is better ;)
but anyways, a big shoutout to Mr. Greenberg for making that incredibly shocking statement! humanity is confused sir. please explain why you would ever say anything like that.
and all the websites that posted this piece of news... u bastards are just bored and fishin for some funny comments aren't you??
peace to all you next-gen gamers. don't let what makes you happy turn you into a hater of the other kind. we all get our shits n giggles from our own special places

1321.10.2008 8:27

Why does anyone care about which one sells more. I like the PS3 better so that is the one I have. If you like the 360 better get that one. People are always bragging about the great games for their system, so why is everyone in here talking about them instead of playing them.

1421.10.2008 9:41

Originally posted by nadram:
let's all relax now and not turn this into another fanboy pissing contest
the 360 is really good, the ps3 is better ;)

irony

i own all 3 consoles but i just play my 360 more than any of the others because live is less laggy for me and i find it easier to hook up with my friends and play, whatever you choose is your own personal preference.. Sony is losing exclusives which means multi-platform releases so be happy because now you have more choices because that's what we need.

1521.10.2008 10:38

The easy way to win the impressions.

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that the company is confident it's console will outsell the rival Sony PlayStation 3 for the holiday season

That means that he is sure about Wii's domination or that he doesnt count Wii as a rival?
IMO You comment always the enemy that you afraid the most.

1621.10.2008 11:02

Quote:
Originally posted by nadram:
let's all relax now and not turn this into another fanboy pissing contest
the 360 is really good, the ps3 is better ;)

irony

i own all 3 consoles but i just play my 360 more than any of the others because live is less laggy for me and i find it easier to hook up with my friends and play, whatever you choose is your own personal preference.. Sony is losing exclusives which means multi-platform releases so be happy because now you have more choices because that's what we need.
Oh please... Stop your crappy comments and go play with your Xbox. The only thing you did right is buying all three consoles. Exclusives? Little Big Planet alone will attract new PS3 owners (sack boy Mario or even Halo? you can't put a price on creativity, too bad that my beta expired). Resistance 2 and Killzone for those with trigger happy. God of War III? Hell, if Sony makes a red PS3 and charge $600 for it, i'll buy it in a heartbeat.

I like my X360 as well, after one RRoD episode, i'm all good (so far). The only console i haven't power on for a while is the Wii.

Price-wise, the X360 is quite attractive. However, the cheapest price is the one w/o HDD, which, ironically, the most expensive one in the long run. Like most you said, it's captain obvious that more people will buy the X360 for the holiday, well, face it, it's cheaper, duh!

1721.10.2008 11:23

On topic.
I think with the substantial price cuts MS have put in. I really would be surprised if ps3 beat 360.
Also now bluray players are cheaper than the ps3 thats going to hurt ps3 sales bad.
Lecsiy

1821.10.2008 11:23

On topic.
I think with the substantial price cuts MS have put in. I really would be surprised if ps3 beat 360.
Also now bluray players are cheaper than the ps3 thats going to hurt ps3 sales bad.
Lecsiy

1921.10.2008 13:34
MckinneR
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Ok, I am going to be quick, I don't really care which one sells the most, cause like most ppl I know, I have them both already. And as far as which one sells If it is the XBOX (just because ppl buy it dose not make it good) "so what" If YOU have them, either play it it or if you don't...go get the other, I don't want or have a Wii, When I was a child I played childish game (mario) but now I am grown )Now, I play big boy games.(Tekken, Master Chief (HALO), LBP, Gears of War, Socom, COD4

I think both systems are ok, But I lean more to sony, I like the way they do bussiness, The Box may be cheaper at first but look at the monthly fee I have to pay, and the limited selection of games (yeah they have a lot....but whats really good) and then the luanch of the NXE v.s PS Home, Still spending,

2021.10.2008 13:45
fgamer
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$199 for a Xbox 360, you can't beat that. Especailly with the insane game lineup the 360 is having right now. So I agree with Microsoft I think they will outsell the PS3, their price is just to much to resist even for people who are holding out because of the non-issue of the RROD. Those new arcades that are being sold right now are very less likely to fail, and by the time those who are holding out on a purchase finally do make a purchase this gen will be over. I'm enjoying my 360 like never before.

2121.10.2008 15:20
AXT
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The game lineup of the 360 is lightyears ahead of that of the PS3. It's no surprise that XBox will outsell the PS3. Sony need to stop being so soft on Japanese game developers. First they lost devil may cry, then FF13, they almost lost MGS4. The Japanese RPG selection is much better for the 360 than it is on the PS3. Sony's own incompetence will lead to their downfall. The 360's online community is top-notch; sony and especially nintendo don't come even close. I have a PS3 and all it's been good for is watching blu-ray movies and MGS4. Give me more games Sony.

2221.10.2008 15:52

None of the PS3 exclusives have a graphically superior version on PC. Folks who are really "all about the games" have already realized this and play them on their PCs instead of burning rings into 60 dollar muli-disk inferior versions.

2321.10.2008 16:47

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None of the PS3 exclusives have a graphically superior version on PC. Folks who are really "all about the games" have already realized this and play them on their PCs instead of burning rings into 60 dollar muli-disk inferior versions.

Well that goes the same for Xbox360 exclusives. But the only problem with PC is that not everybody has the money nor patience to keep upgrading their PC to continually keep it playing to its max. Also not everybody likes to sit up close on their chair and use a keyboard and mouse. Others prefer the comfort of their couches and big screen TVs etc. But im sure folks who are really "all about the games" have realized this as well.

2421.10.2008 18:15

I'm starting to thing Microsoft isn't in it for the money b/c they have probably lost so much already due to the defective consoles and such, that even selling their consoles at a much lower price wouldn't totally help regain their loses. I think they just want to beat Sony in the number of console sales and such, regardless of the money. Also lowering the price will help increase the sales of 360 exclusive games and also attract more customers are undecided on which console to buy.

2521.10.2008 18:28

good job on MS part...... Whats up with Sony PS2 was and still is an excellent system wich put sony on top and now i have a PS3 just to watch bluray movies and play only ps3 exclusives.

2621.10.2008 18:52

they said it, 360 only advantage comes in at the register... but once u get home... u wish u paid that extra money

2721.10.2008 19:03

I think the prices must reflect the quality of the goods!



2821.10.2008 19:55

Well, it won't for the simple fact it doesn't play BD DVDs. I had one but gave it back after support for HD was stopped.

2921.10.2008 20:11

oh common pansies, oh im afraid of rrod, its a gamble but lady luck was with me when i bought mine 4 years ago. trust me if it does rrod its not like its going to kill you the three year warranty still stands, and if it does rrod it will be before three years is up. its 50/50

3021.10.2008 22:27

Originally posted by DXR88:
oh common pansies, oh im afraid of rrod, its a gamble but lady luck was with me when i bought mine 4 years ago. trust me if it does rrod its not like its going to kill you the three year warranty still stands, and if it does rrod it will be before three years is up. its 50/50
Um...no?

Why should I take a "gamble" on the RROD when I have a perfectly capable Wolfdale cpu that eats the xbox360 for breakfast? Yeah there are a handful of games only native to xbox but..why get those when microshit will just abandon it 2 years from now and come up with an all NEW rrod system to vomit up on the masses? And the sheeple being the..well..sheeple that they are, will almost certainly wait in long lines to be reamed once again by Microsoft.

No dice. I will let others play that game.

3121.10.2008 22:44

Quote:
Um...no?

Why should I take a "gamble" on the RROD when I have a perfectly capable Wolfdale cpu that eats the xbox360 for breakfast? Yeah there are a handful of games only native to xbox but..why get those when microshit will just abandon it 2 years from now and come up with an all NEW rrod system to vomit up on the masses? And the sheeple being the..well..sheeple that they are, will almost certainly wait in long lines to be reamed once again by Microsoft.

No dice. I will let others play that game.
Good for you.

3221.10.2008 23:02

Originally posted by Hunt720:
None of the PS3 exclusives have a graphically superior version on PC. Folks who are really "all about the games" have already realized this and play them on their PCs instead of burning rings into 60 dollar muli-disk inferior versions.
LMAO You will have to speak for yourself as I am in it for the games. Here is a little tip. The phrase "all about the games" really describes a gamer who doesnot take shallowness in a game just b/c it has good graphics. Its more about the experience, the storyline, the funfactor, the replay value, etc.. Mega man 9 was recently released multiplatform. If anyone,,, and i mean anyone is playing it for the graphics please post and let me know. I am sure not playing Resident evil on the Wii for the graphics as it honestly looks terrible compared to Xbox360 and PS3 games. At the beggining it is posted basically saying that the xbox360 has graphically superior games on the PC so why buy them. Then you later state you are in it for the games. Those statements conflict or should i say are very hypocritical. Real gamers do not buy games like Gears of War, MGS4, just to admire the graphics. Graphics though great didnt keep me coming back to bioshock it was the storyline and addictive play. Graphics dont make the game great though I will admit they do have some say in the games overall greatness. Graphics are not what keeps people coming back to play COD4, nor Ms.Pacman or Galaga and i dont think the fact that we all know God of WarIII when released will probably have great graphics will be as big a selling point as most true gamers knowing it will probably be a top notch game. Anybody feel me?

On topic, this is no surprise and i agree the xbox360 will outsell the PS3 this holiday season but then again the real task is to try to start competiting with the Wii sales. Wont happen anytime soon for the xbox360 or PS3.
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3321.10.2008 23:24
varnull
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Oooo.. another "says Microcrap" topic.. like we believe their figures and guesswork. I can see quite large sales of the ps3 this season with people looking for a multi purpose BR player.

3422.10.2008 0:02

*Shrugs* Can't when for losing, Eh.

3522.10.2008 0:13
varnull
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Yeah.. it's another "we say" no news flamebait thread.

I'm not in the mood for playing stupid buggers with the paid bloggers tonite.

Wii will still outsell both easily.

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3622.10.2008 0:38

Originally posted by varnull:
Oooo.. another "says Microcrap" topic.. like we believe their figures and guesswork. I can see quite large sales of the ps3 this season with people looking for a multi purpose BR player.
With sales of Blue-ray players steadily dropping and finally coming under the $200 mark. I dont think the PS3 will outsell the xbox360 this holiday season. Its no telling what kind of specials we will see on Blue-ray players with the holiday season approaching further lowering the prices. A lot of people will probably choose the cheaper player and then buy a next-gen system of their choice. But as you stated and i agree, neither will outsell the Wii.

3722.10.2008 14:54
lynchGOP
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This is for sure and not surprising. Xbox is way better in every way than PS3 except raw hardware.

3822.10.2008 19:50

nothings true with microsoft.

3923.10.2008 2:01
pcaddict
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Sony will talk when they release Gran Turismo 5.

4023.10.2008 5:24

Originally posted by lynchGOP:
This is for sure and not surprising. Xbox is way better in every way than PS3 except raw hardware.
Thats so funny XBox is better but PS3 has better hardware? anyone else getting lynchGOP's point?

4123.10.2008 10:22

Originally posted by Airhammer:
Originally posted by lynchGOP:
This is for sure and not surprising. Xbox is way better in every way than PS3 except raw hardware.
Thats so funny XBox is better but PS3 has better hardware? anyone else getting lynchGOP's point?
Nope, I sure don't get it. But anymore posts about this one is better than that one will be removed/edited as it is not on topic and only leads to fanboy arguments.

4223.10.2008 12:25

With Gears of War 2 coming out next month Microsoft has nothing to worry about.

4323.10.2008 15:42
MckinneR
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Like I said previously, the price alone is why they would sell more, "not saying that it better or worse" If I were in a postion to get a next gen system, I would go with the one I could afford (I have rent, car note & and everday life cost of living) It is no suprise that MS says they will sell more, but honestly I expect to see Nintendo in the fight, It is cheaper than both of them (i think)most os the shopping in the holiday is done by the parent, and with George W. Bush screwing up the money It won't be a shock if ppl take the cheaper route.

4423.10.2008 19:57

hehe... no... yeah, the 360 is pretty cheep, but this is going to be Sony's holiday this year

4524.10.2008 10:17

Originally posted by salsa36:
With Gears of War 2 coming out next month Microsoft has nothing to worry about.
Already pre-ordered Gears 2, will get Fable 2 when there's a deal, so anything else?

For PS3, Little Big Planet and Resistance 2 (Killzone is a wait and see)

Nothing for Wii :(

4624.10.2008 11:05

I have to admit i think 360 will outsell the ps3.

value is better.

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4724.10.2008 15:51
lynchGOP
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OK.........moderator's commy statement saying that 'claiming Xbox is better than PS3 or vice-versa BEING OFF TOPIC' is rattling my superior mind.

Let me clarify.........Title of article "Xbox will outsell PS3 for the holidays"

The claim or actuality of one being better than the other HAS EV-ER-Y-THING to do with the article. It's the core reason. So either you mistyped, misunderstood or are just a few bricks short of a load. I'll assume the logical.............first choice.

As for my statement earlier about Xbox being superior to PS3......it is. Read the reviews, game choices, and model shading, clarity and overall detail of the systems. XBox out performs constantly. You nincompoops implying that just because PS3 has better raw hardware, that it's a better system is like saying that you are smarter than someone else SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE. I THINK NOT. Get clues peeps!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In my case, I'm smarter, edgier, more intuitive and have more common sense than 99% of the loonies out there..........whether or not they have more college than I.

You have all demonstrated that you are not capable of being behind the big red button that decides the fate of us all..........THAT'S FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME AND THE SELECT FEW I CHOOSE.

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4824.10.2008 17:00

Originally posted by lynchGOP:
The claim or actuality of one being better than the other HAS EV-ER-Y-THING to do with the article.
Wrong.

Just means one is cheaper than the other.

Cheaper price = more sales.

4924.10.2008 18:08

Originally posted by lynchGOP:
OK.........moderator's commy statement saying that 'claiming Xbox is better than PS3 or vice-versa BEING OFF TOPIC' is rattling my superior mind.

Let me clarify.........Title of article "Xbox will outsell PS3 for the holidays"

The claim or actuality of one being better than the other HAS EV-ER-Y-THING to do with the article. It's the core reason. So either you mistyped, misunderstood or are just a few bricks short of a load. I'll assume the logical.............first choice.

As for my statement earlier about Xbox being superior to PS3......it is. Read the reviews, game choices, and model shading, clarity and overall detail of the systems. XBox out performs constantly. You nincompoops implying that just because PS3 has better raw hardware, that it's a better system is like saying that you are smarter than someone else SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE. I THINK NOT. Get clues peeps!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In my case, I'm smarter, edgier, more intuitive and have more common sense than 99% of the loonies out there..........whether or not they have more college than I.

You have all demonstrated that you are not capable of being behind the big red button that decides the fate of us all..........THAT'S FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME AND THE SELECT FEW I CHOOSE.
The simple fact that you only mentioned college out of University, makes you in the crowd of "99% loonies". And what exactly were you trying to prove by calling more than 3/4 of the population moronic? Assuming that we're all loonies...


5024.10.2008 21:44

Quote:
Originally posted by lynchGOP:
The claim or actuality of one being better than the other HAS EV-ER-Y-THING to do with the article.
Wrong.

Just means one is cheaper than the other.

Cheaper price = more sales.
I agree cheaper price definitely does push sales but you have to give some credit to the xbox360 which was chosen to enter the next generation without some of the more expensive technology and has still proven to be a good system. Wii and Xbox360 have no Blue-ray. Hell Wii has no next-gen graphics nor blueray and still is doing well. My point.... its not an accident that those consoles are cheaper than the PS3. There is a breaking point with a lot of gamers who just were not willing to pay so much money for a videogaming console. Seriously you have got to set a point were you say the console can not excceed a certain set $figure$ at launch. Will the next-generation consoles cost $1000 and if so i hope they dont plan on selling many units. I know some people bought the PS3 b/c it has blueray playback but sometimes i just wonder if they had done without the drive allowing for a cheaper console and concentrated more on games(bigger library of exclusives), if they actually wouldnot have attracted more people and kept more of their fanbase. This stratedgy did help them dominate the last generation of consoles. They already had the momentum heading into the next generation. I mean they had all the fanbase on lock with the PS2 but the high price of the PS3 scared a lot of loyal fans elsewhere.
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5124.10.2008 22:03
varnull
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Also talking about the ps3 people seem to have short memories.. It was delayed 3 times because of problems with the BR drive.

Add that to the price and being the last to market and you end up in dreamcast world. Excellent machine, no customers left.

People looking now to buy one for the first time probably check them out a bit online and find that the console also has hardware problems.. not many but they are expensive to fix if they do go wrong. At least with the 360 if you keep your paperwork and don't open it up and mess about with it you are pretty safe if things do go wrong.

I haven't bought any of the 3.. Sometimes I get to thinking "lets buy a new console.. what should I get" so I have a look online for topics about game choice and reliability.. and what do I see..

360.. too many fps and violence games.. RROD but M$ replaced it within a couple of days no problem.

PS3.. where are the games? My laser died.. my drive isn't working and sony say it's $150 to get it fixed

Wii.. for the kids, no next gen graphics but good family fun. Dirt cheap and lots of exclusive games. Nothing about consoles borking and costing a fortune to repair...

Online research as a general public buyer.. The Wii sells itself, the others struggle.

I'm not quite sure what the thinking in M$ and Sony was with this gen of consoles.. I think they tried to grab the "media center" market and forgot that first and foremost people buy a games console to play games on it. Tendo at least had some grasp of this and made a gamers machine. Just because it's a family and children oriented machine shouldn't detract from it's overall success, or our perception of what they have achieved. They have always been very aware of their target audience.

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5225.10.2008 12:55

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I agree cheaper price definitely does push sales but you have to give some credit to the xbox360 which was chosen to enter the next generation without some of the more expensive technology and has still proven to be a good system. Wii and Xbox360 have no Blue-ray. Hell Wii has no next-gen graphics nor blueray and still is doing well. My point.... its not an accident that those consoles are cheaper than the PS3. There is a breaking point with a lot of gamers who just were not willing to pay so much money for a videogaming console. Seriously you have got to set a point were you say the console can not excceed a certain set $figure$ at launch. Will the next-generation consoles cost $1000 and if so i hope they dont plan on selling many units. I know some people bought the PS3 b/c it has blueray playback but sometimes i just wonder if they had done without the drive allowing for a cheaper console and concentrated more on games(bigger library of exclusives), if they actually wouldnot have attracted more people and kept more of their fanbase. This stratedgy did help them dominate the last generation of consoles. They already had the momentum heading into the next generation. I mean they had all the fanbase on lock with the PS2 but the high price of the PS3 scared a lot of loyal fans elsewhere.
Thats so true the PS3= The new dreamcast or saturn which ever.

5325.10.2008 14:30

Originally posted by embo22000:
Thats so true the PS3= The new dreamcast or saturn which ever.
If that's the case, then fear for the Xbox next-gen. There will be another company that'll come and screw Microsoft over, then the "Xbox 720" will be the next Dreamcast/Saturn.

First came Sony, killing off Sega. Then comes Microsoft, killing off Sony. I wonder who's next, if that's the case.


5425.10.2008 14:46
varnull
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It's just the way with consoles. The days of the cart machines was just the same. You chose which one you wanted by the choice of games rather than the technology.

Along came the ps1 and wiped the floor with them... and is still going as a quality used console purchase for the kids. (I have something like 6 of them) The others in that gen were better machines, but they never got a look in. The ps2 came almost alone.. It didn't have any realistic competition for a couple of years until sega and M$ teamed up.. cobbled together some stock pc hardware and made probably the best games console we will ever see. Where was the Gamecube while that was going on??.. aye.. doing a ps3 and sitting on the shelves gathering dust.

People call the Wii names for it's last gen tech and it's family target. I see some very very clever product R+D there. Why try to directly compete with the big 2? It's certainly a unique machine.

The ps3 will sell.. but it will sell like the GC, to people who want the exclusive games and the BR disk playing capabilities.

What both sony and M$ need to do is rethink who they are selling to, and what they want to make.. a fully enabled sit under the tv media center or a games console... And when they decide to make sure the tech is reliable and well made.

One thing that really annoys me about all these consoles is this.... Why don't any of them make them in a standard 19" rackmount format like a dvd player or a vhs machine.. or whatever. At least make them with flat surfaces and the controls all on the front so they can be stacked up with the rest of your entertainment electronics..

Anyway.. That's what I would like to see. Is it strange to want a games console in a standard electronics case format?

5527.10.2008 15:38

PS3 is too powerful for it's time sadly... when it comes down to it the market is for games that satisfy the most age groups. X-Box 360 beating PS3 in sales isn't a challenge, they dropped their price down to less than half the PS3's price when they realised PS3 would vastly outsell them this year, and by doing this they changed causality, and PS3's up-rising popularity.

Despite X-Box 360's RROD, it's still cheap and affordable and as pointed out earlier, it comes with a 3 year warranty. Still there's obviously no point in getting one if you have something better (PS3, PC or Wii) and i already have a PS3 i dont plan on getting an Xbox 360 to experience their fantastic exclusives (Halo, which sucks). ^_^

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First came Sony, killing off Sega

they screwed Nintendo 64 aswell...

And on the whole, PS2 owned everything ^_^ every company has their bestseller... except for Microsoft who have yet to invent something that can sell near Sony PS2 or Nintendo Wii XD
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5627.10.2008 18:27

Originally posted by MonoSoft:
And on the whole, PS2 owned everything ^_^ every company has their bestseller... except for Microsoft who have yet to invent something that can sell near Sony PS2 or Nintendo Wii XD
Yeah, Microsoft can't do much right. They made something potentially great, but completely flopped on integrity. Sony knows how to make really different hardware.

And the PlayStation did beat out the N64 too, but Nintendo kept on going, even though their Gamecube sucked as well. Nintendo is a permanent figure in gaming, their not going anywhere anytime soon.


5727.10.2008 19:23

seriously why is everyone bashing microsoft? 360 had issues. Hello ps2 had issues.

360 will out sell the ps3 because of like it or not gears of war 2 and fable 2. People are going to buy the sytem when they want to play those games. Sadly the masses dont care about little big planet, so big name games and a cheaper system will sell the system. PS3 has its bluray but that can only take u so far.

Even in japan, it took good games before 360 to outsell ps3.

I cant wait for the next xbox, seeing how microsoft improved over the original xbox (other than the obvious hardware failures which is due to rushing) which no other sysem imo has ever done.

5827.10.2008 20:51

Originally posted by DPhenom:
seriously why is everyone bashing microsoft? 360 had issues. Hello ps2 had issues.

360 will out sell the ps3 because of like it or not gears of war 2 and fable 2. People are going to buy the sytem when they want to play those games. Sadly the masses dont care about little big planet, so big name games and a cheaper system will sell the system. PS3 has its bluray but that can only take u so far.

Even in japan, it took good games before 360 to outsell ps3.

I cant wait for the next xbox, seeing how microsoft improved over the original xbox (other than the obvious hardware failures which is due to rushing) which no other sysem imo has ever done.
Well, why praise Xbox 360 so much? I don't have anything against your comment except the "mass don't care about Little Big Planet." Sorry, i disagree... It's the mass don't care about Gears 2 and Fable 2. By mass, you have to include younger gamers as well (yeah, those little guys/gals technically not allowed to play Gears).

5927.10.2008 21:19

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Well, why praise Xbox 360 so much? I don't have anything against your comment except the "mass don't care about Little Big Planet." Sorry, i disagree... It's the mass don't care about Gears 2 and Fable 2. By mass, you have to include younger gamers as well (yeah, those little guys/gals technically not allowed to play Gears).
Either one of three things is responisible for this post.

1. It is a joke.
2. Great example of fanboyism
3. Sniffed too much glue.

I am not going to knock either of these games, Little Big planet or Gears of War2 but really there is no way that Gears of war2 will be outsold by little big planet. Gears of War2 obviously has an advantage for a couple of reason. There are more Xbox360 consoles sales than PS3 and Gears of War2 already has a reputation and huge fanbase set from the original GOW. Since the original Gow was a great game with great reviews there is going to be expectations that this installment of GOW be bigger and better and even if it fails to exceed the original GOW, the hype and fanbase upon its release will carry it sales.
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6028.10.2008 0:58

Originally posted by lxhotboy:
Either one of three things is responisible for this post.

1. It is a joke.
2. Great example of fanboyism
3. Sniffed too much glue.

I am not going to knock either of these games, Little Big planet or Gears of War2 but really there is no way that Gears of war2 will be outsold by little big planet. Gears of War2 obviously has an advantage for a couple of reason. There are more Xbox360 consoles sales than PS3 and Gears of War2 already has a reputation and huge fanbase set from the original GOW. Since the original Gow was a great game with great reviews there is going to be expectations that this installment of GOW be bigger and better and even if it fails to exceed the original GOW, the hype and fanbase upon its release will carry it sales.
Ding, ding, ding, we have a fanboy. At first I though you just said random things supporting the 360. Now it's obvious; you bash anything anyone says about your beloved Microsoft...

You wanna know what GoW1/2 is? A game for 10 year olds with little attention spans. Played it on my PC, thought it was poorly optimized, boring old trash with pathetic gameplay. I actually bought it, trading it in after I finished the story. Yeah, yeah, a million people disagree with me, especially the perfect people known as reviewers (*bribery*). I've heard that excuse too many times before. (*bribery*)
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6128.10.2008 8:17

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Originally posted by lxhotboy:
Either one of three things is responisible for this post.

1. It is a joke.
2. Great example of fanboyism
3. Sniffed too much glue.

I am not going to knock either of these games, Little Big planet or Gears of War2 but really there is no way that Gears of war2 will be outsold by little big planet. Gears of War2 obviously has an advantage for a couple of reason. There are more Xbox360 consoles sales than PS3 and Gears of War2 already has a reputation and huge fanbase set from the original GOW. Since the original Gow was a great game with great reviews there is going to be expectations that this installment of GOW be bigger and better and even if it fails to exceed the original GOW, the hype and fanbase upon its release will carry it sales.
Ding, ding, ding, we have a fanboy. At first I though you just said random things supporting the 360. Now it's obvious; you bash anything anyone says about your beloved Microsoft...

You wanna know what GoW1/2 is? A game for 10 year olds with little attention spans. Played it on my PC, thought it was poorly optimized, boring old trash with pathetic gameplay. I actually bought it, trading it in after I finished the story. Yeah, yeah, a million people disagree with me, especially the perfect people known as reviewers (*bribery*). I've heard that excuse too many times before. (*bribery*)
LMAO.....I see you like that glue too. You should chill out though before you burn a hole in your nose. Actually i post when people make comments that are fanboyish or just flat out untrue. I like to post the truth. Example: Someone post saying that the xbox360 vice versa PS3 is more way more powerful than the other yet the games look almost identical on the consoles with minor differences. Then the might post the specs and design of their console of choice and say again how much more powerful it is than the next console.(Mind you what under the hood and how it actually performs are two diff things) Sega Saturn was more powerful than the PS1 but d/t poor design they were never able to show its true power on much but 2-D games b/c its design flaw made it difficult to for the dev to program for the console.

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After seeing the specs of the PlayStation, Hayao Nakayama ordered for the Saturn's specs to be fixed so it would have more processing power for 32-bit 3D games to compete with Sony's console (which was due for release at the same time as the Saturn - November 1994). This had to be done in under one year, but was successfully achieved. In the end, Sega had used technology from both their 2D and 3D arcade boards and dual processors. But this would be a problem for programmers. Programming for 2 processors would be difficult. Few programmers found it easy to program for the Saturn in this way and so most used C programming language, thus these games do not use the full power of the Saturn.

http://romhustler.net/roms/saturn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Saturn


All i posted was my opinion on something i thought was as unlikely to happen as it is for the Xbox360 and PS3 to catch the Wii in sales. I just used logics and reasoning. It would have been fanboyism had a post something in response such as: NO way Gow2 it way better and will outsell Little big planet. But i didnot. I gave a logical reason why i felt the way i did and i think those are good reasons to say GOW2 will have the edge on LBP in sales. Maybe you should look in the mirror if you get upset when some says something that may hold some truth despite stepping on your toes. And to further let the truth be known. You got upset b/c GOW2 is exclusive for xbox360 and LBP is exclusive for PS3 and what i said may have hurt your bunions. Sorry i just keep it real. Sorry if you cant see that but if LBP was an exclusive for the Xbox360 instead of PS3 my post still would have been the same supporting higher sales with GOW2 over LBP.

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You wanna know what GoW1/2 is? A game for 10 year olds with little attention spans. Played it on my PC, thought it was poorly optimized, boring old trash with pathetic gameplay. I actually bought it, trading it in after I finished the story. Yeah, yeah, a million people disagree with me, especially the perfect people known as reviewers (*bribery*). I've heard that excuse too many times before. (*bribery*)


Not even going to knock you for this one. As you are entitled to your own opinion. But i didnot bash either of the games. Exactly what is this you are doing and then turn around and call me a fanboy. Guess what im not even going to flame you for that. But it really shows your character.
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6228.10.2008 8:52

Oh for *uck's sake, GoW1 and GoW2 stands for Gods of War 1 and Gods of War 2, every "neutral" gamers know that! The fact that people use GoW1 and GoW2 for Gears of War, it's already an indication of fanboyism.

Argue whatever you want, but the "mass" includes little gamers okay? I know the Xbox community is large, i know Gears gonna do well. However, the notion that "who gives a *uck about LBP" strongly indicate how secluded/delusional some gamers are. There are other games besides shooters you know!

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6328.10.2008 9:33

Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
Oh for *uck's sake, GoW1 and GoW2 stands for Gods of War 1 and Gods of War 2, every "neutral" gamers know that! The fact that people use GoW1 and GoW2 for Gears of War, it's already an indication of fanboyism.

Argue whatever you want, but the "mass" includes little gamers okay? I know the Xbox community is large, i know Gears gonna do well. However, the notion that "who gives a *uck about LBP" strongly indicate how secluded/delusional some gamers are. There are other games besides shooters you know!
GOW comment???? Are you kidding me. I use GOW when i am talking about Gears of War or God of War. You just have to make sure you use the actual name of the game at least once in the post so that people know which of the two you mean when you later use the Abbreviation GOW and the indication that GOW should only be used to abbreviate one of these great games and isnot right to use for the other is a little gone overboard n my opinion. There is no law nor manual printed supporting the use of that abbreviation. LMAO.......Dude its not that serious and i cant believe you even brought that up... LMAO..... You are going to make me hurt myself laughing seriously..

Second you go on to talk about the xbox community. Man please like i said it doesnot matter which system the games were intended for that is not the point if you would open up your mind you could see past the console diff of the two games. Let me put this in lamen terms for you. If both games were PS3, or Wii, xbox360, NES, Genesis, Coleco vision, Atari, or tandy exclusives. Who cares.. Both game could be on PS3 for all i care and i would have still posted that LBP is not as popular, nor will sell as many copies, nor has the mass or majority of fanbase as GOW. Do you understand that now?? LMAO Did i simplify that enough for you to see past the console that game is exclusive to, your console of choice, and whether or not their are other games out there besides shooters. Open up your mind and stop being so shallow and stop making the assumption that i am making my post based on a particular console.

6428.10.2008 9:34

sorry double post

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6528.10.2008 9:58

@lxhotboy

Why you have to double post your comments? GoW is Gods of War, because the game came out before Gears of War, it's just that simple. No, it doesn't represent both games, only in the Xbox community where GoW stands for Gears of War.

As for fan base, you can say whatever you want, because it's true, a game is almost always more successful if there's an established fan base, it's not rocket science. If you want credits for that thought, here, have a cookie :roll eyes:

However, fan base aside, look around, do we really need to wait for sequels for big hits all the time? Okay, maybe we do (i couldn't pass Gears 2 and Resistance 2), but hell, think about it. Aside from the known established fan base stuffs, what else is out there? LBP! If you strip the fan base theory off Gears or Resistance or even Mario, then compare LBP to its peers, what do you get?

Some times it's not about the fan base... Gears 2, Resistance 2, Fables 2, Fallout 3, Resident Evil 5, Gods of War 3, hell, Call of Duty series decided to drop the number... I have nothing against those titles, i love them, but come on, that's not the way i want game developers to go. LBP will definitely spark some new, something unique to the table, where people will nod their heads and go, wow, not bad, very creative, design you level, there goes the cute baby picture...

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Some times it's not about the fan base... Gears 2, Resistance 2, Fables 2, Fallout 3, Resident Evil 5, Gods of War 3, hell, Call of Duty series decided to drop the number... I have nothing against those titles, i love them, but come on, that's not the way i want game developers to go. LBP will definitely spark some new, something unique to the table, where people will nod their heads and go, wow, not bad, very creative, design you level, there goes the cute baby picture...
I agree with you 100%. So here is a cookie for you as well. Here, go fetch boy. Ruff! LMAO... Its great to have something new but then again there is nothing wrong with great sequels.

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? GoW is Gods of War, because the game came out before Gears of War, it's just that simple.
Are you serious? If that is the rule that you follow than let no stop there. Lets not be a hypocrit lets follow is to the T. If all the people in the world thought that way do you realise that no name would be used more than once. Your name for example. I am willing to bet you are not the first person to have that name but i dont think you would change your name just b/c it was previously used to name someone else. That is what you are saying if you think about it. GOW comment made was ignorant anyway and if you think its not then remeber you need to have your name changed b/c it already describes something or someone else. Sorry but for this comment you lost all your cool points. HELLO!!!! Give me that dang cookie back. LMAO......;)
Debate closed.
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6728.10.2008 19:38

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? GoW is Gods of War, because the game came out before Gears of War, it's just that simple.
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Are you serious? If that is the rule that you follow than let no stop there. Lets not be a hypocrit lets follow is to the T. If all the people in the world thought that way do you realise that no name would be used more than once. Your name for example. I am willing to bet you are not the first person to have that name but i dont think you would change your name just b/c it was previously used to name someone else. That is what you are saying if you think about it. GOW comment made was ignorant anyway and if you think its not then remeber you need to have your name changed b/c it already describes something or someone else. Sorry but for this comment you lost all your cool points. HELLO!!!! Give me that dang cookie back. LMAO......;)
Debate closed.
This is so stupid, really, first off, it's not a name, it's the stupid acronym, which by convention is used to shorten lengthy titles and such (so you can type less and fast). As for acronyms, it's really on the first come first serve principle in the given community (this case, gaming community). For those of us play games before the Xbox 360 was invented, GoW doesn't not mean Gears of War. And yes, to me, it's hardwired to mean Gods of War. So yeah, it bothers me when you use it to indicate Gears of War (or both). It only tells me that you're either a Xbox 360 fan boy or never give a damn about Gods of War and calling yourself a gamer (that's worse than a Xbox fan boy IMO). I never want your damn cookie anyway and i don't give a damn about cool points. Just give me peace of mind so that i can reserve my GoW III.

6828.10.2008 19:54
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I'm not a gamer this gen.. haven't bought or rented a game in years.. I sell phones and used games part time to pay the bills.. and Wii's at Xmas. No point stocking the others in a small local shop.. They don't sell.

GoW1 GoW2.. ???.. Gods of War.. Gears of War??.. I dunno.. I had to look see if the full name was dropped somewhere else in the post, or do a Linus reading Dostoyevsky and bleep over the names I couldn't pronounce/understand. XD

C'mon fanboys.. you can do better than this :)

6928.10.2008 22:37

Originally posted by varnull:
I'm not a gamer this gen.. haven't bought or rented a game in years.. I sell phones and used games part time to pay the bills.. and Wii's at Xmas. No point stocking the others in a small local shop.. They don't sell.

GoW1 GoW2.. ???.. Gods of War.. Gears of War??.. I dunno.. I had to look see if the full name was dropped somewhere else in the post, or do a Linus reading Dostoyevsky and bleep over the names I couldn't pronounce/understand. XD

C'mon fanboys.. you can do better than this :)
This is specifically the reason I stopped posting in the news section all together. Too many people that don't read what they write, and that just annoys me. It causes pointless arguments like this...


7029.10.2008 8:12

Look......there goes that man again. Sorry double post.

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7129.10.2008 8:13

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GoW1 GoW2.. ???.. Gods of War.. Gears of War??.. I dunno.. I had to look see if the full name was dropped somewhere else in the post, or do a Linus reading Dostoyevsky and bleep over the names I couldn't pronounce/understand. XD

C'mon fanboys.. you can do better than this :)
I know dude. Thats what i meant. As i stated before its not that serious and i can not believe it was even brought up period. But i guess you never know what is important to the next person. GOW???? Who cares enough to even bring this kind of thing up....Cookie anyone?

I have seen a several different commercials lately for games that are not even exclusives that ended up being xbox360 commercials advertising the new low price of $199. I cant say i would buy that particular model myself but Microsoft is determined to push sales. They waited till the holiday season to drop the price, some great anticipated games will be released, and picking up with the advertising all around the same time.
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7229.10.2008 17:04

I have already purchased two of the 360 consoles, both of which have permanently failed. I'm not sure I'll buy another one just to void its warranty, get the rrod, put on a temporary fix, have it die a bit later.


7330.10.2008 16:06

Originally posted by martin280:
I have already purchased two of the 360 consoles, both of which have permanently failed. I'm not sure I'll buy another one just to void its warranty, get the rrod, put on a temporary fix, have it die a bit later.
You did not use the warranty? My cousin had RROD on a launch 360 and they shipped him a box and had it back to him in about 2 weeks. Microsoft will replace it unless you opened up the console and done some tinkering. A friend of mine got RROD and he opened unit and tried to fix it himself he ended up buying another unit. In the end i was like was trying to fix it yourself worth the money lost especially since he was aware of the warranty.

747.11.2008 19:18

i say congratulations to X-Box, they shunted their way in at 6th gen and are topping a company that owned two generations, maybe it's signs to open up to newer things..

Gears of War and Little Big Planet are on the same kind of level, you've got to bear in mind yes little big planet is marketed at all ages, but the PS3 isn't, it's usually targetted at around 14+, hence why it wont sell so well, Gears of war on the other hand seems to be popular (personally can't stand it) and will probably outsell it due to the Xbox being far more open to marketing to all ages. I hope Fable 2 does better than the pair of them, then again i play shooters mostly so what do i know.. ^_^

there's nothing wrong with being a fanboy, as long as you can atleast appreciate when something has beaten what you're supporting. and most importantly, this news post is about X-Box 360 beating PS3 in sales. not about pointing out the flaws of Xbox etc.

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