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Girl arrested for texting during school

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 18 Feb 2009 14:58 User comments (68)

Girl arrested for texting during school A 14-year-old girl from Wisconsin has been arrested and charged with disorderly conduct. Her crime? Repeatedly text-messaging during class time at school.
The police report also notes that the girl continually denied that she even had a phone on her person when asked to stop texting in class.

The school then called the police authorities and the officer who responded questioned the girl and interviewed her friends. When the officer tried to contact the girl's parents, "She gave me several numbers all being false by one or two digits wrong. [Redacted] stated I was dialing the wrong numbers so On [sic] speaker phone I dialed the number she gave me and spoke with a subject who stated I had the wrong number."

The girl continued to deny she had a phone until a female officer was called in to search the teen. A Samsung Cricket was found stuffed down the back of the girl's pants.

A court hearing is set for April 20th.

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118.2.2009 15:08

How ridiculous. I could have done exactly the same in school and I would have just got sent out the room or something similar. If the teacher wanted the phone number of my parents they would just look it up in a database.

Fools.

218.2.2009 15:14

No... this has to be fake...
I can understand giving a detention, exlusion would be extreme... but this.. o.O

318.2.2009 15:23

What we are really missing here is the actual charge. What was the girls charge?

418.2.2009 15:24

I believe it. My younger bro in 98 was also arrested at the age of 10yrs old bc he was bragging to his friends a lunch about how impressive his stack of guns were in his barn (he made it up). My parents yanked him out of the public schools and home-schooled him.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/yea...92samsung1.html

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518.2.2009 15:32
SamNz
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Originally posted by yussef:
What we are really missing here is the actual charge. What was the girls charge?
i was thinking the same think "serial txting" or most likely providing false information

618.2.2009 15:42

I call people during my classes, ffs...

This is a joke, I'm not even going to bother with it lol

718.2.2009 15:43

I think she got her come uppance. She could be charged with lying to a police officer which is itself a crime. It sounds like she was a terrible brat! The games with the texting, wrong numkbers, then lying about the phone. She could have gotten off easy but she made her bed... ---Chikn

818.2.2009 15:45

I'm sure the charge is for lying to the authorities, but it should have never escalated that far. Both my parents are teachers and my Mom is a principal, it is her job to handle these types of situations. The most extreme punishment may have been a short suspension for lying and perhaps the phone confiscated if it is in the school's rulebook.

However, I cannot understand why the police would need to be involved? She wouldn't be arrested for lying to the police if they hadn't been brought in to begin with. Sure, the girl was being a stupid and immature kid...but who wasn't at 14. Once she was caught, admit it and deal with the consequences; but the consequences should never have been this severe.

918.2.2009 16:06

Most schools her in Oakland, CA have officers in the school that are closely involved in the day-to-day goings on of the school and students. In fact, here in Oakland/SF area a parent can call the school and get the officer to come to their house and force their child to go to school if the student refuses to listen to the parent. I can imagine that same student putting up a stink in the principal's office, being unccoperative, then having to ask the school officer to come in. ---Chikn

1018.2.2009 16:07

Originally posted by amf0802:
I'm sure the charge is for lying to the authorities, but it should have never escalated that far. Both my parents are teachers and my Mom is a principal, it is her job to handle these types of situations. The most extreme punishment may have been a short suspension for lying and perhaps the phone confiscated if it is in the school's rulebook.

However, I cannot understand why the police would need to be involved? She wouldn't be arrested for lying to the police if they hadn't been brought in to begin with. Sure, the girl was being a stupid and immature kid...but who wasn't at 14. Once she was caught, admit it and deal with the consequences; but the consequences should never have been this severe.

Haven`t the school authorities mixed the school rules with the state rules, texting in class "civil wrong doing".
The School authorities can be in trouble if parents can go filing a case against the school authorities, and the police officer can also not be spared, they searched her as if she was having narcotics.


This is matter of POWER, here a girl 14yr old girl has become victim of it. both teachers and police have played their part.

A question, if while walking the road you are stopped by a police man and he after checking your id says you that you have to go to police station as you are wanted in a case without showing any immediate proof.

What should be your rights in this situation, will you resist physically to any force put by the police man or will you become the victim of fear of the unknown?
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1118.2.2009 17:42

I used to go to a high school in Wisconsin, and there is a state law that prohibits students from even possessing a cell phone in school. I believe that is a little harsh, but the school I went to didn't care if you had a phone as long as it was off and out of sight. That girl texting in school is breaking a law for possessing a phone in school, and I believe that could be grounds for having a police officer question her when she wouldn't give up her phone. I believe her getting arrested for disorderly conduct is just because she was lying to the police and wasting their time. She needs to learn to respect authority, which I think many teens have a huge problem with. At the high school where I went to, if a student was being very disrespectful and not following a teacher's reasonable request, a police liaison officer would be called down to handle the situation. Just the threat of that was very effective, so I believe that is acceptable. Is it known which school or school district this occurred in?

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1218.2.2009 17:46
looser_ur
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I agree with the person who thinks this is fake.

This is cut and dry regarding police. Maybe just MAYBE she could get in trouble (legally) by lying to the police but unfortunately I don't believe there was any justification or merit for calling the police just because of what she was doing..............let alone any reason for police actually coming out.

And IF this did happen then that school is run by a bunch of pussies, and the cops are pussies too. Big fat meowing PUSSIES!!!

{60 seconds later}

After reading the comment before mine, then it's more understandable but UNREASONABLE. Tax payer's money hard at work boys and girls.

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1318.2.2009 18:09

Originally posted by looser_ur:
Wisconsin Tax payer's money hard at work boys and girls.
Fixed it for you.

1418.2.2009 18:09

Originally posted by logola:
I believe her getting arrested for disorderly conduct is just because she was lying to the police and wasting their time. She needs to learn to respect authority, which I think many teens have a huge problem with. At the high school where I went to, if a student was being very disrespectful and not following a teacher's reasonable request, a police liaison officer would be called down to handle the situation. Just the threat of that was very effective, so I believe that is acceptable. Is it known which school or school district this occurred in?
Hahahaha NOOOOOOO, why should she respect that kind of authority? The teachers don't have any other option than to call the police? Laughable and sad. Yeah I'd lie to the police so what? Big bad thug police called in for the girl having a PHONE!!!!!! whoooooooo I feel safer already. Screw the police if that's all they have to do. Hey if the girl is texting all the time and NOT doing her assignment that's one thing and it should be dealt with with the teacher getting in touch with her parnets NOT with the police but if she is doing the school work and not disturbing anyone then the teacher needs to STFU and get on with teaching........there just my 2 cents.

1518.2.2009 18:22

this doesnt sound like a text message ordeal, more like a text messaging girl gone stup*d.
why is this getting twisted to what its not.

1618.2.2009 19:33

This is soooo stupid...I see why she got in trouble with the cops for lying but they shouldn't have even called the cops ffs..its just a phone..its not like she was doing drugs( I can't say she doesn't do them , but seriously)

1718.2.2009 19:42

Seems pretty clear to me...
The teacher said to stop and she didn't.
The school authorities told her to give up the phone and she lied.
The school, having no other recourse called the police to get the phone and she lied again.
The charge was disorderly conduct.
Slap on the wrist and a serious warning.

Good job!

1818.2.2009 19:56

I'll mention this again. It is more than likely that the school has at least 1 officer stationed permanently on the premises to handle disruptive students and/or other problems that arise. It would be no effort at all to ask the officer to step into a classroom or office to handle a situation. ---Chikn

1918.2.2009 20:58
jony218
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You do the crime, you do the time. Don't want to get arrested, don't text in school or instead drop out of school save everybody the drama. The school personnel have no power over students, that's why police are always called in to settle disputes.As everyone can see the problem was settled to everyones satisfaction.

2018.2.2009 21:25

Teen Cited For Disorderly Conduct After Texting In Class
Police issued a Wauwatosa teen a $289 ticket for disorderly conduct after she was caught texting in class.

Sorry folks, it is true. She was cited but for disorderly conduct and not in relation to the act of texting. Although had she not been texting the police would not have been involved for her "attitude" when asked to stop and then to take away the phone. Here's a link to my local CBS news website
http://www.channel3000.com/news/18736146/detail.html

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2118.2.2009 22:34

Er, this is totally stupid, what is wrong with text-ing in class? does it have anything to do with the teacher? give me a break, the girl don't want to know learn whatever you are teaching, then she don't want to learn, is her future not yours . this is totally retarded

2218.2.2009 22:38

This is stupid, there should be no need to call a Police Officer, send her out of the class room to detention, or suspend.

Its not against the law to have a Cell Phone at school, its the school policies that dictate whether or not your aloud to have it.

an SRO could have handled the situation more effectively and efficiently without the need for this type action. i hope the parents sue the living hell out of them.

the government is encroaching on the boarder of Raising everybody's children. if you want to tell anyone how to raise a child then its simple you can buy there diapers there food the school supplies the clothing on there back. the government is sticking there nose where it don't belong

2318.2.2009 23:25

Gee, I guess there really aren't any criminals more worthwhile than this public enemy for the police to waste their time on. Give the kid detention, take the phone send her home, and call her parents. Insane...

2419.2.2009 0:08
cousinkix
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Wisconsin? I'm not surprised. Those communist rulers fired a school teacher, after some beauracrat saw pictures of her firing a shotgun on a range on the internet. Those people like to mind everybody's business at work, at home and any place else. You no longer have to commit a real crime to get f----d over royally in many parts of the free USA...

2519.2.2009 0:26
atomicxl
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The police report also notes that the girl continually denied that she even had a phone on her person when asked to stop texting in class.

The school then called the police authorities and the officer who responded questioned the girl and interviewed her friends. When the officer tried to contact the girl's parents, "She gave me several numbers all being false by one or two digits wrong. [Redacted] stated I was dialing the wrong numbers so On [sic] speaker phone I dialed the number she gave me and spoke with a subject who stated I had the wrong number.
"

The girl was the one being a (I don't know if we can curse) bad witch. Why are you guys on her side. I've read stuff where you guys say how out of wack the american educational system is, then an article like this comes out and all the sudden everyone supports unruly students and feels they should be allowed to disrupt everyone else who's trying to learn.

Pick a side and choose one.

#1 The girl could have not texted. I'm sure there are school rules against it.
#2 She could have put her phone on silent so that even if she was texting, the teacher would never know. Thats a no brainer.
#3 She could have given her phone to the teacher
#4 She could have told the truth about the phone.

She had all the chances, but she didn't use any of them. I say its her fault.

American schools are over crowded. Here you have a student who clearly doesn't want to learn, is disturbing others and causing a commotion and has better things to do with her time... why is she allowed to clog up the system? If they expelled all the students like this, the teacher:student ratio would become more reasonable and I think the quality of education received would increase.

Or if they brought back corporal punishment. Nobody likes a spanking, especially in front of your peers. I bet if there was the possibility of getting spanked, she would have kept her cell phone at home or on silent like a responsible student.

2619.2.2009 0:29

WOW, public schooling has hit a new low... I understand the teacher taking the phone and only returning it to a parent, which was the custom in my school. But getting arrested! What the hell is the world coming to?!?!?!

2719.2.2009 0:59

Originally posted by Morreale:
I call people during my classes, ffs...

This is a joke, I'm not even going to bother with it lol
I remember calling my dad in the middle of class. The teacher kept saying "Alex, get off the phone". Then my dad picked me up.


2819.2.2009 1:53

I'm an old fart who went to school when mobiles didn't even exist - I remember getting the cane for running down the school corridor to make sure I wasn't late for one class change at the opposite end of the building. I also remember the entire class of 32 being pulled out of one young teacher's class by the deputy headmaster for being "noisy" - three of us were marched off to the headmaster's office for lining up outside with our hands in our pockets.
Hey , things seem to be improving (slightly) at least :)

2919.2.2009 4:28
RoBear80
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Well what i think most people missed about this one is 1She was at the school so why OOO why did the DUMB officer ask her for a number for her parints and why did the school not call them there self eather the school recoreds have contact numbers for the pairnts so think about it people

3019.2.2009 5:24

"Spare the rod, spoil the child"

It seems many of you guys are not aware how American's public school are going down the drain each new generation. I can bet if anyone here knew the girl personally would agree she needs a good smacking up the head.

3119.2.2009 10:53

Originally posted by Hyasuma:
Er, this is totally stupid, what is wrong with text-ing in class? does it have anything to do with the teacher? give me a break, the girl don't want to know learn whatever you are teaching, then she don't want to learn, is her future not yours . this is totally retarded
Then don't go to school and sit in class and text if you don't want to learn. Maybe there are people there that do want an education so don't make it harder for them.

3219.2.2009 11:38

Originally posted by domie:
I'm an old fart who went to school when mobiles didn't even exist - I remember getting the cane for running down the school corridor to make sure I wasn't late for one class change at the opposite end of the building. I also remember the entire class of 32 being pulled out of one young teacher's class by the deputy headmaster for being "noisy" - three of us were marched off to the headmaster's office for lining up outside with our hands in our pockets.
Hey , things seem to be improving (slightly) at least :)
Oh ive got the wooden paddle filled with holes before, some where in 98 they got rid of the whole thing. before 98 they had to have written consent to paddle you, or they call your parents so you got one there and you got one at home.

and yes i believe a good spanking goes a long way.

3319.2.2009 12:05

If you wanna text during class, then fine whatever... As long as your ringer is off... That's the only way its gonna cause a major distraction...


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3419.2.2009 12:29
vballstud
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Don't the po' po' in Wisconsin have cow tippers to arrest?

3519.2.2009 14:12

Originally posted by Hyasuma:
Er, this is totally stupid, what is wrong with text-ing in class? does it have anything to do with the teacher? give me a break, the girl don't want to know learn whatever you are teaching, then she don't want to learn, is her future not yours . this is totally retarded
In my day we went to school to learn, and to prepare ourselves for the big wide world, ie for a life long slog at work

Originally posted by domie:
I'm an old fart who went to school when mobiles didn't even exist
Indeed, same here. Whilst i am 'young minded' ie old(ish) in years but young enough in my views/outlook on things i most definitely do not agree with mobile phone (ab)use in school. School is for learning, and discipline set us up well for later life. Don't get me wrong, i was an absolute tearaway at school (even at 6th form) but i'm sure glad that every darned kid didn't have such things as phones in my day. Back to the police aspect of this News item, i think calling the police was over the top, but schools should have every right to ban or limit the use of phones in schools (in lessons anyway, i don't mind the little buggers using them in breaks).

Originally posted by ydkjman:
Then don't go to school and sit in class and text if you don't want to learn. Maybe there are people there that do want an education so don't make it harder for them.
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3619.2.2009 23:35

so she got arrested for lying to an office about texting. not texting persay.

3720.2.2009 7:13

Originally posted by atomicxl:
The police report also notes that the girl continually denied that she even had a phone on her person when asked to stop texting in class.

The school then called the police authorities and the officer who responded questioned the girl and interviewed her friends. When the officer tried to contact the girl's parents, "She gave me several numbers all being false by one or two digits wrong. [Redacted] stated I was dialing the wrong numbers so On [sic] speaker phone I dialed the number she gave me and spoke with a subject who stated I had the wrong number.
"

The girl was the one being a (I don't know if we can curse) bad witch. Why are you guys on her side. I've read stuff where you guys say how out of wack the american educational system is, then an article like this comes out and all the sudden everyone supports unruly students and feels they should be allowed to disrupt everyone else who's trying to learn.

Pick a side and choose one.

#1 The girl could have not texted. I'm sure there are school rules against it.
#2 She could have put her phone on silent so that even if she was texting, the teacher would never know. Thats a no brainer.
#3 She could have given her phone to the teacher
#4 She could have told the truth about the phone.

She had all the chances, but she didn't use any of them. I say its her fault.

American schools are over crowded. Here you have a student who clearly doesn't want to learn, is disturbing others and causing a commotion and has better things to do with her time... why is she allowed to clog up the system? If they expelled all the students like this, the teacher:student ratio would become more reasonable and I think the quality of education received would increase.

Or if they brought back corporal punishment. Nobody likes a spanking, especially in front of your peers. I bet if there was the possibility of getting spanked, she would have kept her cell phone at home or on silent like a responsible student.
She asked trouble and get it. Can only blame herself.

Hope someone learn something from this thing.

EDIT: My first thought after reading the news was: Is that teen a idiot?
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3820.2.2009 15:30

The girl was just texting. Last time I checked, text messaging is a mostly silent activity and bothers no one but the person receiving the texts.

Disorderly conduct is an incredibly inappropriate charge.

3920.2.2009 16:39

Lying is not a criminal offence wtf is this all about!?

*irrelevance removed*

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4020.2.2009 17:15

Originally posted by tru23nyte:
Lying is not a criminal offence wtf is this all about!?

try lying to a judge in court - see how far you get in later arguing that it wasn't a criminal offence ;) I believe it's called perjury.
lying to a police officer is only one step down from that - it's called perverting the course of justice :)

both are criminal offences no matter what the crime - most famous recent case :-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/a...lice/article.do

frankly, if they didn't have this listed as a criminal offence - crime detection rates would decrease quite substantially methinks - and i'm not talking about online piracy ;)
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4120.2.2009 18:31

there shouldn't have been a reason to call the police in the first place, this could have been resolved at the school with a call to the parent and some detention. let her clean the school campus a couple of times for detention and what not.

4221.2.2009 11:24
Chieffy
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Originally posted by DXR88:
there shouldn't have been a reason to call the police in the first place, this could have been resolved at the school with a call to the parent and some detention. let her clean the school campus a couple of times for detention and what not.
I like how everyone is sticking up for this dumb shit! Any time you do anything in the middle of class that has no relavence to what is being taught, the teacher & school have the right to do what is neccessary, and they did. Simply put, you don't care about the class and don't wanna learn....drop out of school, end up on some street corner sellin yourself for $10 per hand job, and wonder if texting was really that much more important than learning.

I mean really, is texting during school really needed, would someone have died had she not been texting? Of course not, but she is probably the same type of dumb shit who is texting at other times she shouldn't that would actually kill someone...IE Driving a car! I know i'm not the only one who has seen that!!!!

4321.2.2009 12:11

Originally posted by Hyasuma:
Er, this is totally stupid, what is wrong with text-ing in class? does it have anything to do with the teacher? give me a break, the girl don't want to know learn whatever you are teaching, then she don't want to learn, is her future not yours . this is totally retarded
it is disruptive to the whole class and detracts from everyones learning experience. so,in fact,it is everyone in that classes future.if we had had cell phones when i was in school,the teacher would have likely warned her a few times,then crushed the f@@@@n thing under his or her heal.your use of the english language not only proves that you are on her side in this,but that you probably also text in school.learn something already.

4427.2.2009 10:21

Originally posted by Hyasuma:
Er, this is totally stupid, what is wrong with text-ing in class? does it have anything to do with the teacher? give me a break, the girl don't want to know learn whatever you are teaching, then she don't want to learn, is her future not yours . this is totally retarded
B.S! The bloody beeping bothers everyone near her. If she doesn't want to pay attention, quit. She's wasting everyone else's time anyways

4527.2.2009 16:33

Lying to a police officer, or anyone at all, for that matter, is in fact NOT a crime (I challenge anyone to find ONE statute otherwise in any municipality in the US or in Federal law), unless it is used to avoid punishment for another crime, or to allow said crime to be commited. Texting is not a crime, nor does it fall under "disorderly conduct" in any law, whether criminal or tort. Ergo, lying to a police officer about said texting is, in fact, perfectly legal.

I've asked 5 lawyers about this today, and all of them didn't believe me and had to look up the Yahoos - and I mean that in a very "Swiftian" way >.< - in Wisconsin themselves... The responses ranged from hilarity to stunned silence.

I agree, misbehavior of nearly any sort is disruptive in a classroom. I cannot count, however, the number of more disruptive, more damaging, and even outright illegal behaviors that I saw/see in schoolrooms every day. Theyleave texting far back, eating dust, in terms of obnoxiousness.


Edit--> How in the world would you know if the phone was beeping or not -.-' ? Just about all cell phones have a "Silent" mode, and/or you can generally specify just about any given sound (or lack of it) for most events in many phones' settings.

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4628.2.2009 17:28
Reku
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Starting off, this article states erroneously that she was arrested. The news article just stated she received a $289 citation and was suspended from school.

I am sure texting by itself would have been nothing. Sounds like the girl was being obnoxious to the teacher when asked to stop. In a California school with teens, the teacher would have just called campus security and they probably would have confiscated the phone/suspended the student. Could be this school had no on site security so the police were called instead. Someone with an ounce of brains would know that you need to be polite and respectful to a police officer at this point. You can be fined for just about anything at any time (I was once fined for wearing DJ type headphones around my neck while driving). You have the option to take it to a judge who can drop the fine, but that is up to their discretion. All told, the girl was probably trying to remain "hard" in front of her peers and I hope she has to pay the fine. Teachers have a hard enough time dealing with overcrowded class sizes and constant bureaucracy.

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471.3.2009 16:51

First, I live in Wisconsin so lets get one thing straight, we only cow tip in the summer when there is no snow. ;-) The snow not only makes it easier to track you but will slow your escape! No I do not know the student either.

I am from the era of students where cell phones only existed in KITT and still should not be allowed in the classroom! If you need to text do it between classes and during lunch! If something is that important excuse yourself from class and take care of it that or the school will find you and give you the info you need. That is how it worked back in the day with us.

I am not siding with the student but the police should have been kept out of it with the exception of the liaison officer that may have been at the school. We had one back in the 80's. these days some schools need their own swat team though.

482.3.2009 18:13

Reading some of the messages posted on this board it became obvious that students should pay attention in class rather than texting. The spelling mistakes are shameful but not surprising. How did we ever survive without cell phones? Hey kids, wake up. The job market you'll be entering is incredibly tough. You'll need much more than texting savvy to get by.

493.3.2009 12:53

Originally posted by sledge27:
Reading some of the messages posted on this board it became obvious that students should pay attention in class rather than texting. The spelling mistakes are shameful but not surprising. How did we ever survive without cell phones? Hey kids, wake up. The job market you'll be entering is incredibly tough. You'll need much more than texting savvy to get by.

I can spell just fine. My grammar could use some work. In a non formal blather bath who really cares.

Waht od yuo caer,Hwo ym splleing si?

503.3.2009 18:06

DXR88:

Waht od yuo caer,Hwo ym splleing si?

Very clever, but I don't care. People who are more interested in texting than learning in the classroom will find out (too late) that they should have been more serious about school. While that's their problem, I would hate to see society having to support them while they keep looking for meaningful employment. Ya know?? As for having the little texter arrested... I can't imagine that being any more than a (cell phone-less) inconvenience. That said, I guess I would have to agree... what a waste of good police manpower.

514.3.2009 16:38
zorb43
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Originally posted by DTN107:
"Spare the rod, spoil the child"

It seems many of you guys are not aware how American's public school are going down the drain each new generation. I can bet if anyone here knew the girl personally would agree she needs a good smacking up the head.
I agree 100% when I was in Catholic School many moons ago we had our mouths wahed out with soap for backtalking or lying to a teacher.One boy was forced to take a bite out of a cactus for multiple offences. It taught him a lesson though and he changed his ways. We were forced to kneel on Rice and strip searched if any kid was thought to be concealing contraband.I remember one boy in particular who made the mistake of hitting a teacher. When the priests were finished with him he was so black and blue he coulden't sit down for a week! It taught him the lesson he needed and believe it or not he turned out to be a fine young man albiet a strict disiplinarian. I say bring back corporal punishment and most if not all problems with school children will ceae nd desist.

524.3.2009 17:45

Quote:
Originally posted by DTN107:
"Spare the rod, spoil the child"

It seems many of you guys are not aware how American's public school are going down the drain each new generation. I can bet if anyone here knew the girl personally would agree she needs a good smacking up the head.
I agree 100% when I was in Catholic School many moons ago we had our mouths wahed out with soap for backtalking or lying to a teacher.One boy was forced to take a bite out of a cactus for multiple offences. It taught him a lesson though and he changed his ways. We were forced to kneel on Rice and strip searched if any kid was thought to be concealing contraband.I remember one boy in particular who made the mistake of hitting a teacher. When the priests were finished with him he was so black and blue he coulden't sit down for a week! It taught him the lesson he needed and believe it or not he turned out to be a fine young man albiet a strict disiplinarian. I say bring back corporal punishment and most if not all problems with school children will ceae nd desist.
or they bring a gun to school and start killing people.

5324.4.2009 0:16

To those who think calling the police was an over-reaction:
I'm sure this girl had a long history of problematic behavior, and the teachers didn't know what else to do, BUT call the police. Obviously, if the girl continuously lies about even having a cell phone when everyone in class knew she had it, she has a serious attitude problem. I doubt she would calmly walk to the principle's office if asked to leave the classroom. This is clearly a student with mental and behavioral instability.
It is very likely that the problems started at home. If the parent is paying the cell phone bill, as in most cases, then if their daughter is having difficulty managing the responsibility of owning the phone, a prudent parent would suspend that privilege.
DXR88 proves my point perfectly when he/she said the next step such neglected children take is to begin acting out violently, even to the extreme of bringing a gun to school and committing murder.
This was absolutely nothing to do with texting, it was everything to do with obedience. Children are to be obedient and respectful to their elders, or dire consequences occur. This is a lesson schools have difficulty teaching, because it is mostly out of their jurisdiction. It is a lesson which must begin at home. The consequences of which I speak are not limited to some kind of artificial reprimand upon the child. No no, they are much longer-term than that, as some comments have already alluded to.
To make myself clear, I don't think corporal punishment is the answer, at least it is certainly not a silver-bullet. This is a problem with the American family. And the problem with the American family derives from societal and moral decay, which is beyond the scope of this discussion.

5424.4.2009 0:58

..."Clearly a student with mental instability"? Because she texts in class? Excuse me? Because she - like just about every high-school student that has ever existed - has an "attitude problem"?

"I'm sure this girl had a long history of problematic behavior" my pasty pale heinie! No, you are not sure - you have no evidence at all - you're just assuming the worst of the girl to justify improper behavior on the part of the school.

Please tell us, if you would, where you get this sordid history of misbehavior, that isn't mentioned ANYwhere but your. -.-' . Similar assumptions color just about every similar post supporting the school's actions, if anyone else has noticed.

5524.4.2009 1:59

So,you on the other hand,have the moral and evidential high road?give your head a shake.This is in no way about texting in school,but rather about the rights of the other students to an education.She was disruptive and was dealt with.End of freaking story.

5624.4.2009 9:19

Originally posted by Bozobub:
Lying to a police officer, or anyone at all, for that matter, is in fact NOT a crime (I challenge anyone to find ONE statute otherwise in any municipality in the US or in Federal law), unless it is used to avoid punishment for another crime, or to allow said crime to be commited. Texting is not a crime, nor does it fall under "disorderly conduct" in any law, whether criminal or tort. Ergo, lying to a police officer about said texting is, in fact, perfectly legal.

I've asked 5 lawyers about this today, and all of them didn't believe me and had to look up the Yahoos - and I mean that in a very "Swiftian" way >.< - in Wisconsin themselves... The responses ranged from hilarity to stunned silence.
I live in Wisconsin, and have a degree for criminal justice from here, lying to an officer IS a crime. Maybe not everywhere, but it is here...She was not punished for texting, but for the problems it caused when she was told to stop and the lying to the officer.
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5724.4.2009 23:19

Yeesh.
I'm in school too. I would never, ever, text during class. It is EXTREMELY disrespectful to the teachers...and I'll be damned if it doesn't get annoying hearing "CLICKCLICKCLICKCLIIICK" and "SLAM" when they close their phone....over...and over...and over. It's hugely distracting to everyone around - or at least, it is to me. The professors hear it to, and it's hard for them to lecture when they keep hearing all that noise.
It's just so freaking disrespectful. Yeah, I like to text - it's handy - and I have unlimited texting. But when I hit class, my phone gets turned on silent and is not removed from my pocket till I'm out of the room. You can live without texting for 50 minutes...have some respect for others! Damn!

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5825.4.2009 0:47

@bozobub

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like just about every high-school student that has ever existed - has an "attitude problem"
I'm glad you agree with me. I too, am making this assumption. I assume she has an attitude problem, and that the teachers are at least somewhat qualified and competent. I assume their first reaction wasn't to call 911 at the first sight of a cell phone or sound of a child texting. Of course, you and I could be wrong, and there exists an insane place somewhere in Wisconsin where children are angels and both teachers and police officers have no idea how to perform their duties.

But, to answer your question, enough "history" is laid forth in the article to extrapolate such a pattern. Such words and phrases used in the article are: "repeatedly" "continually denied" "several numbers all being false" "stuffed down the back of pants"
Or maybe she was just having a really bad day? Normally, she would do nothing of the sort.

597.5.2009 2:09

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Originally posted by tru23nyte:
Lying is not a criminal offence wtf is this all about!?

try lying to a judge in court - see how far you get in later arguing that it wasn't a criminal offence ;) I believe it's called perjury.
lying to a police officer is only one step down from that - it's called perverting the course of justice :)

both are criminal offences no matter what the crime - most famous recent case :-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/a...lice/article.do
frankly, if they didn't have this listed as a criminal offence - crime detection rates would decrease quite substantially methinks - and i'm not talking about online piracy ;)
Hey buddie i got no problem with you Brits but shut the f--- up! You guys dont fight for your rights but over here in the land of "Don't Tread On Me!" we have a sense of duty to fight for our rights. Apparently you werent paying attention in school cuz your little argument in support of this lunacy quotes a British law & this happened in Wisconson USA!!!! it doesnt matter whether or not she deserved what she got cuz her rights were violated. Besides any "punishment or intervention" starts with school and ends with family. Corporal punishment might set her straight, sure but its besides the point. The point is that "law enforcement" had/ has no law to enforce. get over it.

607.5.2009 9:01

I'm glad you agree with me. I too, am making this assumption. I assume she has an attitude problem, and that the teachers are at least somewhat qualified and competent. I assume their first reaction wasn't to call 911 at the first sight of a cell phone or sound of a child texting. Of course, you and I could be wrong, and there exists an insane place somewhere in Wisconsin where children are angels and both teachers and police officers have no idea how to perform their duties.

But, to answer your question, enough "history" is laid forth in the article to extrapolate such a pattern. Such words and phrases used in the article are: "repeatedly" "continually denied" "several numbers all being false" "stuffed down the back of pants"
Or maybe she was just having a really bad day? Normally, she would do nothing of the sort.



That's no "history", that's simply what happened during that incident. I say again: there's nowhere near enough information to make the statement that she had any "history" of misbehavior.

This is all moot. It is NOT against the law to text in school; in fact, school regulations of any sort are, in fact, NOT LAW, unless explicitly writtent into the law at some point. You won't be able to find any provision about texting in class in any state in the US. If you violate school regulations, the school *does* have the right to have you removed, but that's it.

I also strongly disagree with stripsearching students looking for ibuprofen... When are parents going to stop expecting/allowing the schools to do the parents' job?!

It has been established in case law for a long time (at the federal level, so it supersedes state laws as well - this has been to the Supreme Court as well) that lying to an officer of the law is only a crime IF it is done to avoid punishment for a crime that has been - or is about to be - committed, whether for oneself or another. In other words, it's only illegal if you are "lying during an investigation". Thing is, for a legal investigation to be in force, A CRIME MUST BE COMMITTED (or must be just about to happen). Can anyone point out the original "crime" here?

The cop had a right to be there, but only to remove the student. Until state and federal laws define cellular phones as illegal contraband, there's absolutely no excuse for this crap. This is a clear violation of the Fourth Amendment, which, by the way, applies to the states via the Fourteenth Amendment.
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6114.5.2009 22:24

The article says the crime was disorderly conduct. That seems to be accurate to me. Let's face it, in a teacher's classroom, the teacher runs the show. It's their way or the highway. In this case, the girl chose the highway.

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When are parents going to stop expecting/allowing the schools to do the parents' job?!
At least we agree on that.

6222.4.2010 14:23
carlos spicy weiner
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i knoww i love playing games too she so totaly should of stuck the disk in the cops pants[o and p.s., i think modern warfare 2 is the funnest game in the history of ever. and asians.

6330.11.2010 11:27
SaRaH dAwN!!~*<3
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wtf that is stupid

6430.11.2010 15:12

Originally posted by yussef:
What we are really missing here is the actual charge. What was the girls charge?
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i was thinking the same think "serial txting" or most likely providing false information

I guess you two shouldn't have been texting in class, either. Learning how to read would have given you the ability to see the charge is in the very first sentence of the article, in big bold print.


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A 14-year-old girl from Wisconsin has been arrested and charged with disorderly conduct.

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657.2.2011 12:58
desny
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Originally posted by dsgtrain:
How ridiculous. I could have done exactly the same in school and I would have just got sent out the room or something similar. If the teacher wanted the phone number of my parents they would just look it up in a database.

Fools.
Originally posted by nitrolagy:
No... this has to be fake...
I can understand giving a detention, exlusion would be extreme... but this.. o.O
ok if i would have gotten cought texting in class i would have just got my phone tooken away and have to pic it up after school no big deal!!!!

667.2.2011 20:05

don't they teach legal aid in schools anymore.when the police were called she should of had a lawyer present and an adult with her during questioning.texting in school is harmless.The other thing to remember if shes a teenager,bet most of you were probably little terrors as a teenager i know i was.when i was in school the police were called on several occasions (drugs,a gun was found in a locker,a student had 30beer bottles smashed over his head at lunch time).The teachers didn't waste there time calling the police over stupid things.


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6722.3.2012 11:51
hun1
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dude that is screwed up i can have my ipod an fone during skewl ploice r messed up i dont like them very much an by law they cant touch u with out a search warrant u just have to say do u have a search warrant

6822.3.2012 14:15

Originally posted by hun1:
dude that is screwed up i can have my ipod an fone during skewl ploice r messed up i dont like them very much an by law they cant touch u with out a search warrant u just have to say do u have a search warrant
if you beleive that drivel then you must be as stupid as she is.by the way,this thread is like three years old.shes probably unemployed and pregnant by now,considering her demonstrated interest in school.

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