California approves of new energy standards for HDTVs

Saving the environment by making the consumers pay more. i thought idiots couldn't get any more Stupid. yet im proved wrong again.

Well stupid is what stupid does. If they think this is going to eleviate the state power grid of CA by even a little bit, they're wrong. There's other things, such as the fridge or even the washer that consume way more energy than some damned TV ever will. Good luck trying to save the state and the planet for that matter!! - BLUEBOY

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There's other things, such as the fridge or even the washer that consume way more energy than some damned TV ever will.

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Washers, refrigerators, etc, have about the strictest energy rules you could imagine.

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Saving the environment by making the consumers pay more. i thought idiots couldn't get any more Stupid. yet im proved wrong again.

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the only thing this really affects is plazmas...

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Saving the environment by making the consumers pay more. i thought idiots couldn't get any more Stupid. yet im proved wrong again.

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Why would consumers pay more for TVs now when all companies will be forced to comply? It's not like a special feature to one-up others and for extra money...

Ontario is currently looking into this and I hope it goes through...

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Originally posted by DXR88:

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Saving the environment by making the consumers pay more. i thought idiots couldn't get any more Stupid. yet im proved wrong again.

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Why would consumers pay more for TVs now when all companies will be forced to comply? It's not like a special feature to one-up others and for extra money...

Ontario is currently looking into this and I hope it goes through...

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Because its harder to sell their full line in that region and since they are limited to a smaller portion of their line not only will they add to the already higher price of the item but the store itself will add more onto it to try and recoup lost sales.

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Score another one for the idiot enviornmentalists, and another loss for consumers. I'm absolutely sure the few bucks a year saved in electricity will halt the melting of the ice caps. Maybe if these idiot legislators in California worried about something worth while, they could save their state from bankruptcy. If they want to take up a cause, how about the cause of saving their state, and quit wasting the tax payers money.

To save them money? BS! This is the same state that de-regulated their energy prices and let enron buy all the electic companies to hold a monopoly. They then used this monopoly to drive prices into the sky, despite the fact that there were no problems. Some customers recieved bills in the thousands of dollars for less than 1000kW useage...and not they want to save people money by making their LCD TVs 20% more effiecent?

I suspect that there will be TV (and possibly other appliances) stores set up about 20 feet accross the california border...selling affordable equipment.

This is somewhat similar to the pollution law that was passed in California about the amount of emissions a car could give off. Long story short, the car manufactures didn't have to comply because they (the car company) were able to get that law revoked.

So either the TV manufacture get this law revoked or make TV's that consume less power......

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Score another one for the idiot enviornmentalists, and another loss for consumers. I'm absolutely sure the few bucks a year saved in electricity will halt the melting of the ice caps.

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My attitude to this is great.

About time.

Despite significant numbers in the USA now choosing to believe the right-wing TV & radio pundits and their faux science regarding climate change the fact is that the rest of the world will drive this forward anyways.

Either we will produce the energy efficient goods ourselves and/or we will bar goods that do not meet the required standards.
No matter which way around it is the rest of the world is making its view clear.

Besides, energy is expensive and will only get more so over time so it makes sense to pressure the manufacturers to get ever more efficient - in all arenas of CE manufacture.

Why the hell wouldn't anyone want goods that are cheaper to run - as well as being environmentally much more friendly?
What sort of nut wants expensive to run goods that poison the places they are made in?

(and what sort of nut imagines that the 3rd world will forever be content to allow the 1st world to export the poisonous & filthy horrible manufacturing processes and God-awful working conditions to their countrys?)

CE goods are not getting more expensive to buy so whining that the consumer is going to be made to pay more is absurd.
Energy efficient light bulbs are a very poor example.
Of course they began (like most new techs) by being more expensive but they are now as cheap as the old tech bulbs (certainly in our supermarkets here in the UK).

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My attitude to this is great.

About time.

Despite significant numbers in the USA now choosing to believe the right-wing TV & radio pundits and their faux science regarding climate change the fact is that the rest of the world will drive this forward anyways.

Either we will produce the energy efficient goods ourselves and/or we will bar goods that do not meet the required standards.
No matter which way around it is the rest of the world is making its view clear.

Besides, energy is expensive and will only get more so over time so it makes sense to pressure the manufacturers to get ever more efficient - in all arenas of CE manufacture.

Why the hell wouldn't anyone want goods that are cheaper to run - as well as being environmentally much more friendly?
What sort of nut wants expensive to run goods that poison the places they are made in?

(and what sort of nut imagines that the 3rd world will forever be content to allow the 1st world to export the poisonous & filthy horrible manufacturing processes and God-awful working conditions to their countrys?)

CE goods are not getting more expensive to buy so whining that the consumer is going to be made to pay more is absurd.
Energy efficient light bulbs are a very poor example.
Of course they began (like most new techs) by being more expensive but they are now as cheap as the old tech bulbs (certainly in our supermarkets here in the UK).

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(and what sort of nut imagines that the 3rd world will forever be content to allow the 1st world to export the poisonous & filthy horrible manufacturing processes and God-awful working conditions to their countrys?)

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They are not saving anything. The earth is in a cycle that has happened before and will happen again.

I love how someone hacked into (cant remember the name) but a major global warming institute recently and released all of their emails etc showing how false global warming is.

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Saving the environment by making the consumers pay more. i thought idiots couldn't get any more Stupid. yet im proved wrong again.

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I love how someone hacked into (cant remember the name) but a major global warming institute recently and released all of their emails etc showing how false global warming is.

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