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'Wii Bubble could be deflating,' says analyst

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 25 Nov 2009 14:01 User comments (24)

'Wii Bubble could be deflating,' says analyst Analyst Doug Creutz of the Cowen Group has said today that the "Wii bubble could be deflating," as gamers plan to spend much less on Wii titles this holiday season in comparison to last year.
According to Gamasutra, Creutz used a survey of console owners which asked their purchase intentions for the holiday season and it appears that PS3 and Xbox 360 owners plan to buy more games this year, while Wii owners plan to buy less.

Creutz does say the numbers may be skewed however because over 50 percent of Wii owners also own a rival console, and only 23 percent of those who own multiple consider the Wii their "main platform."

"While core gamers who own a Wii own more Wii games on average than casual Wii owners, the average title ownership spread between the two categories of gamers is much lower than it is for owners of Xbox 360 and PS3 console," he added.

Additionally, Creutz says Wii hardware sales do not correlate to software success, as proven by NPD numbers that show publishers have not done as well while Wii sales were through the roof in 2008.

"While we believe the Wii is likely to be a drag on overall software sales through the holiday, the impact should be limited to those publishers which have invested significantly in Wii development, with the biggest negative impact likely to be felt by Electronic Arts which (unwisely in our view) heavily invested in Wii development for [calendar 2009]," he noted.

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24 user comments

125.11.2009 18:24

No you think??

BTW people come on name me some good WII titles action,adventure,RPG and FPS coem one I know it has SOMETHING!!!

225.11.2009 18:41

Tales of Symphonia, c.o.d modern warfare reflex, res evil4, any shooting game (house o' dead, ghost squad res evil umbrella chronicles)
quite a few others. The thing is, alot of games for the other consoles are just same shit, better graphics. play godfather or scarface or the brilliant res evil 4 on wii and the beautiful, comfortable controls make you forget about pretty pictures. ya douche.

325.11.2009 18:43

Originally posted by 82Eazy82:
Tales of Symphonia, c.o.d modern warfare reflex, res evil4, any shooting game (house o' dead, ghost squad res evil umbrella chronicles)
quite a few others. The thing is, alot of games for the other consoles are just same shit, better graphics. play godfather or scarface or the brilliant res evil 4 on wii and the beautiful, comfortable controls make you forget about pretty pictures. ya douche.

I know the games are there I know the brand name ones but theres a few not so well known ones that are neat so I hear.

Graphics are highly overrated!
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425.11.2009 21:38

im planning on getting the New Super Mario for wii, Silent Hill Shattered Memories, or the Resident Evil rail shooter, not the umbrella chronicles one. Theres quite a selection of wii games im looking forward to get!

525.11.2009 22:35
scum101
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if 1 in 5 wii owners buys 1 game for it they will still sell more units that the others put together.

so who exactly did this waste of space ask? .. did he go to the parents by the local school? .. "serious" gamers (hahaha.. that's a laugh.. "serious" gamer.. grow the f up!)? or the customers coming and going out of some lower east side crackhouse?

these idiots (analists.. wastes of skin paid money for nothing at all) have totally forgotten the wii has a different demographic to the others.. much more casual, family and kid friendly.. and those are the very people who are feeling the pinch right now...

These figures are garbage anyway.. If somebody asks me what I intend to spend my money on they get told to mind their own f-in business... same will go for 70% of pretty skint people.. only braggers will spout about how much money they have to throw about in surveys.


FYI .. I intend to buy NOTHING .. I have utility bills due next month.. so that's that.

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625.11.2009 23:37

im buying a my little pony this christmas

726.11.2009 1:55

Anyone recall the profit margins on the Wii at its original price point? This has been a coup for Nintendo so far.

826.11.2009 3:26

"While core gamers who own a Wii own more Wii games on average than casual Wii owners, the average title ownership spread between the two categories of gamers is much lower than it is for owners of Xbox 360 and PS3 console"

Core gamers = turn the system on once in a while to see if it still works.
Casual Owners = have not turned it on in a year.

Seriously, it can't even compete with the PS2...how can they hope to compete with the 360 and PS3? You can't base your whole company on a handfull of games, most of which are available in better versions for your competitors systems. I understand that their goal is not to make a good gaming system (if they wanted to do that, they would have controlers instead of TV remotes)...but it does not do HD video either, so what the **** is the thing designed to do?

926.11.2009 4:30

Collect dust? Cuz mine is doing that pretty well. I'm glad I had it during my college years, but dang... come out with SOMETHING. Like you said, my PS2 and my PC are still more interesting than my Wii right now and it was supposed to be all revolutionary even though the Wiimote is a flawed contraption for FPSes (with the exception of Metroid: the only game to get it right in my opinion. The Conduit felt like crap). Guncon please? Thanks Time Crisis. Man, I need to crank that game out again if I can find that gun.

They only have a few games coming out soon that will sell well...

1026.11.2009 5:33

'Wii Bubble is deflated'

Fixed.

1126.11.2009 5:55

Originally posted by KillerBug:
"While core gamers who own a Wii own more Wii games on average than casual Wii owners, the average title ownership spread between the two categories of gamers is much lower than it is for owners of Xbox 360 and PS3 console"

Core gamers = turn the system on once in a while to see if it still works.
Casual Owners = have not turned it on in a year.

Seriously, it can't even compete with the PS2...how can they hope to compete with the 360 and PS3? You can't base your whole company on a handfull of games, most of which are available in better versions for your competitors systems. I understand that their goal is not to make a good gaming system (if they wanted to do that, they would have controlers instead of TV remotes)...but it does not do HD video either, so what the **** is the thing designed to do?


Non gamers/Real casual gamer = have not turned it on in a year or more.

Casual Gamers(what the industry calls hard core) = Will play brands and follow trends on anything.

Hard Core gamers = left out because we demand qaulity.


Sorry I just had to fix it >>

1226.11.2009 9:17

"gamers plan to spend much less on Wii titles this holiday season in comparison to last year."
I never spent any time on Wii titles nor did i plan too.

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1326.11.2009 16:34

The biggest problem for the Wii is that most owners care about the Nintendo-owned titles (Mario & Zelda). It's hard for 3rd party developers to make any money developing for the system (except maybe BoomBlox and a couple others), which eventually will drive them away. Anyone I know who owns a Wii only talks about playing Wii Sports and a few Mario titles. Good for them to be so re-playable, but it doesn't help in the long term.

1426.11.2009 18:41

Yeah, I'll agree. No More Heroes was one of my favorite Wii games, but I'm sure that didn't get the sales I think it should have gotten anyway. However, a bunch of developers are trying too hard to use the Wiimote for every gesture they can think up when they don't need to use the pointer for much at all.

1527.11.2009 3:23
findu
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I'm absolutely crazy about ps3 game recently, i plan to buy some, by the way,where to get the discounted ones?

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1627.11.2009 11:01

Originally posted by findu:
I'm absolutely crazy about ps3 game recently, i plan to buy some, by the way,where to get the discounted ones?
I'd say ebay and Amazon are your best bet, just lurk and watch prices when they tend to dip in the 30-40 range start going after the title you want. also always know what the shipping cost is so you never go above 40 unless you just HAVE to!!!

I do it for 1-30$ stuff :P

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171.12.2009 12:24

Quote:
Originally posted by findu:
I'm absolutely crazy about ps3 game recently, i plan to buy some, by the way,where to get the discounted ones?
I'd say ebay and Amazon are your best bet, just lurk and watch prices when they tend to dip in the 30-40 range start going after the title you want. also always know what the shipping cost is so you never go above 40 unless you just HAVE to!!!

I do it for 1-30$ stuff :P
I finally broke down and bought Prince of Persia for the PS3. Lurked and got it for $15 used :P

181.12.2009 12:41

Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by findu:
I'm absolutely crazy about ps3 game recently, i plan to buy some, by the way,where to get the discounted ones?
I'd say ebay and Amazon are your best bet, just lurk and watch prices when they tend to dip in the 30-40 range start going after the title you want. also always know what the shipping cost is so you never go above 40 unless you just HAVE to!!!

I do it for 1-30$ stuff :P
I finally broke down and bought Prince of Persia for the PS3. Lurked and got it for $15 used :P

I got it for free(not pirated for once) for the PC...and its 100% pure faggotarty..... its not quite a zelda rip off(if it was a proper zelda rip off I would been alot happier) and its not quite a POP game...more like some odd bastardization...I swear they should have just done a cute kiddy version of sands of time story it would have been alot better....

191.12.2009 12:45

Originally posted by jaqafter:
Anyone recall the profit margins on the Wii at its original price point? This has been a coup for Nintendo so far.

The profit margin on the release Wii (bundle) was $50.00 (on $249.00 USD MSRP). The analysis was that they were "giving Wii Sports away for free".

I'm sure that the gross margin improved over time. Seeing as Nintendo (apparently) didn't spend any money into addl. manufacturing capacity, any savings in manufacturing would be addl. profit.
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201.12.2009 13:23

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by findu:
I'm absolutely crazy about ps3 game recently, i plan to buy some, by the way,where to get the discounted ones?
I'd say ebay and Amazon are your best bet, just lurk and watch prices when they tend to dip in the 30-40 range start going after the title you want. also always know what the shipping cost is so you never go above 40 unless you just HAVE to!!!

I do it for 1-30$ stuff :P
I finally broke down and bought Prince of Persia for the PS3. Lurked and got it for $15 used :P

I got it for free(not pirated for once) for the PC...and its 100% pure faggotarty..... its not quite a zelda rip off(if it was a proper zelda rip off I would been alot happier) and its not quite a POP game...more like some odd bastardization...I swear they should have just done a cute kiddy version of sands of time story it would have been alot better....
lol...I'm finding it amusing. I needed a break from Uncharted 2. Some filler material before my next real game. I obtained it for the PC last year and found that it was worth something to me...eventually (only played through an hour or 2 of it). Just not nearly worth as much as what was being asked retail.

Back on topic...(sort of)...my wife is asking for a Wii. Ughh....

211.12.2009 13:42

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by findu:
I'm absolutely crazy about ps3 game recently, i plan to buy some, by the way,where to get the discounted ones?
I'd say ebay and Amazon are your best bet, just lurk and watch prices when they tend to dip in the 30-40 range start going after the title you want. also always know what the shipping cost is so you never go above 40 unless you just HAVE to!!!

I do it for 1-30$ stuff :P
I finally broke down and bought Prince of Persia for the PS3. Lurked and got it for $15 used :P

I got it for free(not pirated for once) for the PC...and its 100% pure faggotarty..... its not quite a zelda rip off(if it was a proper zelda rip off I would been alot happier) and its not quite a POP game...more like some odd bastardization...I swear they should have just done a cute kiddy version of sands of time story it would have been alot better....
lol...I'm finding it amusing. I needed a break from Uncharted 2. Some filler material before my next real game. I obtained it for the PC last year and found that it was worth something to me...eventually (only played through an hour or 2 of it). Just not nearly worth as much as what was being asked retail.

Back on topic...(sort of)...my wife is asking for a Wii. Ughh....

*twitch twitch* liek MW2 its to much generic modern design for my tastes....

(more off topic)
Wut she dun like yers?
LOL
(back to topic...if I must....)

The WII is better than it looks go after the the lesser known titles there are some gems in them so I keep hearing under the grape vine(were all the sane gamers have moved to :P), right now I hope to get a 360 but the next thing I am getting is a WII unless I can get my hands on a cheap 60GB PS3 ^_~

221.12.2009 15:42

The wii is marketed at kids and older people (40+) the xbox 360 and ps3 is marketed towards teens all the way to prob people in their 30's somewhere. Any gamer who buys a wii who is 13-39 is not a hardcore gamer,they are a db. hardcore gamers own a 360 and/or a ps3. I say 360 more though because it has better online multiplier whereas ps3 is more the loner console you play by yourself....

231.12.2009 18:20

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
(more off topic)
Wut she dun like yers?
LOL
(back to topic...if I must....)
yeah, pretty much :P She's been seeing a lot of commercials with Wii dancing games and is really interested in something new. Plus my kids are old enough now to really enjoy it. I guess it would be for the best. Get them away from my plasma TV.....he he he

Originally posted by John_Donn:
I say 360 more though because it has better online multiplier whereas ps3 is more the loner console you play by yourself....
...orly? I need a console that gives me online multipliers.

I haven't played much multiplayer on the 360, but I've had no issues with PS3 multiplayer support, aside from other peoples crappy connections. How do you back up that statement?

241.12.2009 19:36

Quote:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
(more off topic)
Wut she dun like yers?
LOL
(back to topic...if I must....)
yeah, pretty much :P She's been seeing a lot of commercials with Wii dancing games and is really interested in something new. Plus my kids are old enough now to really enjoy it. I guess it would be for the best. Get them away from my plasma TV.....he he he

Originally posted by John_Donn:
I say 360 more though because it has better online multiplier whereas ps3 is more the loner console you play by yourself....
...orly? I need a console that gives me online multipliers.

I haven't played much multiplayer on the 360, but I've had no issues with PS3 multiplayer support, aside from other peoples crappy connections. How do you back up that statement?
Kids? no wonder shes done with yer wii.... >< god I need to get a life and get laid ><


Its easy to direct them with a 20-32inch crt TV and anything they are not bored of yet eh? :P

Tho I do think the wii has more gems than people give it credit for.

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