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Director James Cameron calls BP bunch of "morons"

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 03 Jun 2010 13:59 User comments (48)

Director James Cameron calls BP bunch of "morons" Unless you have been on the island featured in "Lost" for the last month you have undoubtedly heard or read of the tragic oil spill caused by BP in the Gulf of Mexico.
Director James Cameron, the man behind the biggest grossing movies of all-time, Avatar and Titanic, is also an avid deep-sea explorer, and recently offered his help to BP in efforts to combat the spill which is leaking, depending on whom you listen to, up to 9 barrels per second.

Apparently, BP did not want his help.

"Over the last few weeks I've watched, as we all have, with growing horror and heartache, watching what's happening in the Gulf and thinking those morons don't know what they're doing," Cameron said. It is unclear who "those morons" are, but it's safe to say he likely means both the underwater team as well as the executives.

Cameron has "worked extensively with robot submarines and is considered an expert in undersea filming," says Reuters, but BP still "graciously" turned down his offer.

The spill, which has quickly become the worst in U.S. history, continues to gush oil into the ocean, from a well one mile below the surface.

Says Cameron: "I know really, really, really smart people that work typically at depths much greater than what that well is at. Most importantly, they know the engineering that it requires to get something done at that depth."

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13.6.2010 15:24
Kieth Olbermann
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The reason they turned him down is because they didn't want the headlines that a Hollywood movie director is telling them how to do their own job. BP is a joke and should welcome any help with open arms. Them declining his help shows the ignorance and stubbornness of BP t6hat started this mess in the first place. I'm tempted to blame Obama for not doing more or doing what the governors have been asking, but something tells me things are far more tricky than your standard tragedy when it's dealing with oil hundreds of feet underwater gushing out from an endless well. Hell, they couldn't even save human beings in Louisiana when hurricane Katrina happened, and they were above water in clear open view (but the media could get in and out easily). So take a step back and realize the difficulties of going so far under water solely relying on robotics and techniques that obviously have not been tested before. Lastly, BP should be dismantled and kicked out of this country for good (but Republicans arse holes wont support that) and the people saying "drill baby drill" should be put on blast and stop trying to ONCE again blame something else on Obama...and back track from their comments. Nothing's safe when you are drilling PERIOD!! Let this be a wake up call for all the oil drilling supporters..if not, let the oil turn all the water into a standing pile of stinkin smelly rotting cesspool.

23.6.2010 15:31

Posturing by Politicos and Hollywood really, really helps, doesn't it?

33.6.2010 17:48

Posturing is all that politicians and celebrities CAN do. This is a leak at pretty extreme depth which requires very specialized experience. Cameron can help about as much there with his "advice and experience" as Paris Hilton.

Cold reality is, neither USA on governmental level, nor celebrities and their companies have access to the technology that would even properly function in conditions of a deep-sea oil well - if they did, they'd be hired by BP long ago. BP on the other hand has a LOT of such equipment - which is why it's BP rather then Halliburton or Transocean that is being pressed to plug it - people who actually have a clue know well enough that they're the only involved organization that actually stands a chance in those conditions.

Assigning guilt can wait at least until the well is plugged.

43.6.2010 20:08

Sorry but thats just so painfully naive, just because he's a celeb doesn't mean he doesn't know anything about deep sea, from what I've read (though it could easily be wrong) Cameron is very experianced with deep sea diving.

The thing that anoyed me most though luckyo is when you said BP are the best people to do it thats why there being pressurised into pluging it, WRONG it's their fault this has happened therfore they should be the ones who pay for and fix it, that's why there being pressed.

The only thing I slightly agree with you is that before they really look into why it happened, and who exactly's fault it is, they should fix the well. By they I mean anyone at all who can, I don't think anyone would really care who fixed it as long as BP really do pay to fix it and pay to fix the huge volume of problems the leak will/is cause/causing

53.6.2010 22:07

Doesn't matter, what can a deep sea diver possibly bring to the table when it comes to cleaning an oil spill? That's like getting poker advice from a card magician.. May be in the same field (even though James isn't exactly a professional deep sea diver), but leagues apart in their expertise.

"Hey guys! I may not be able to help filter out this oil, but I can take professional pictures of fish!"

63.6.2010 22:38

Keith Olbermann

It's liberal thinking like yours that is driving this country in the same direction as Rome 2000 years before. I live about 250 miles from the well site. We can smell the oil burning when the wind is right. Our state lives and dies with OIL and SEAFOOD, our two greatest industries. What is needed is a $hit pile full of engineers and not movie makers. The government does NOT run anything correctly and never will. Cameron might be able to digitally fix the blowout!

When the oil is lapping the shoreline of The Statue of Liberty and has fouled the Florida Keys and coral reefs and the Atlantic Beaches, then maybe the Aholes, both Democratic and Republican, might get off their Aholes and do something constructive rather than preach to the choir! They write the regulations and are supposed to enforce them. Oh, except they're watching porn on the internet.

Evert state which does not support drilling. production, or refining should be paying at least $2 per gallon more for their privilege to drive.

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73.6.2010 23:02

The plan is for the government/globalists to milk this disaster as long as possible in order to pass their fake Green Agenda based off the global warming hoax. This includes the carbon taxes, green jobs (which causes the loss of more jobs), and such.

The news is reporting that the clean up crew is getting sick from the clean-up making us think the oil is causing it, when in fact it is the chemicals for the cleanup that is causing them to get sick.

They are not allowing the fisherman down their access to the coast, purposely blocking them from working, and destroying their economy.

The news doesn't say that oil leaks occur naturally in the ocean, and that their are micro-organism that eat up the oil and can be used to help clean up the mess.

They don't need James' help b/c they are already paid off by corporate interests to use their cleanup method and products, which the tax payers are paying.

Did you read that Goldman Sax sold there 400,000 Shares of BP stock 2 days before the explosion.....that is really suspicious...since they played such a big part in designing the economic collapse of the U.S.

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84.6.2010 1:06

Lol, cameron wouldn't be able to do much, it's not robots that's the problem.

BP could cap this oil in a day or 2 but haven't because they'd rather keep the well and do a cheapish fix and keep the pipe then reuse the well again.

they could cap it then weld around the cap to stop it but that would mean you can't use that pipe again and lose the well completely and have to re-drill a new pipe and do a new setup at the new drill site.

SO would need new lic's and then spending extra for the new setup etc.

It won't be the worker messing around it'll be the bosses messing around trying to do silly stuff on the cheap.

Lol, shoving bits of rock and metal into the pipe bloody funny like that's going to block it, I wonder which boss came up with that idea.

94.6.2010 4:24

They turned down his help because they refuse to admit mistakes...and their biggest mistake in all of this (other than using a blow-out preventer that caused a blow-out) is their lack of preparation.

When this first happened, a BP spokesperson was being interviewed. At the time, they had yet to try the "funnel" approach, and were having the "funnel" constructed. The spokesperson said that they would already have it fixed, but to address every possible disaster, they would need a whole dock of disaster recovery equipment. My question is why they didn't...BP is a huge company with wells all over the world. With that many wells, it is guaranteed that they will have accidents and spills. One dock full of recovery equipment would not be very expensive given the size of the company...in fact, the same equipment could be used for all companies; if every oil producer paid a tiny percentage of a percent, they would have several of these docks setup all over the world. Instead, they try one thing at a time, and they don't even bother to start preparations for "plan b" until "plan a" has been tried twice. In fact, they are now re-trying "plan a" after abandoning it because they said it was impossible...and there still isn't a "plan c".

They should issue a ban on all new deep water drilling until at least one "emergency dock" has been stocked...if they did that, then we would have an "emergency dock" within about a month, and every oil company in the world would be in the gulf...this is a disaster for BP, for Louisiana, or for mother earth in general...but ultimately, it is a disaster for the entire oil industry.

So far, BP has taken 45 days with no success. They are now re-re-re-attempting something that they already said was impossible.

I don't know if james could help...he does have a lot of skill in this area, and he also has the equipment. Given the fact that BP claims their current attempt is impossible, they might as well give James a shot at it; they already know their people/equipment cannot do the job.

The fact is that BP cannot fix this. The government needs to step in an take control...and give it to someone competent, or at least someone who has an idea that has not already been shown to be impossible.

104.6.2010 13:56

i bet the US Navy could fix it.

i know why all there attempts have failed because every on they've tried requires the oil flow to stop completely you cant do this you need to make a cap with 2 small holes big enough for a hose have the hose, above water level the send in a team of divers to connect the other end of the hose to the open cap easy as pie.

115.6.2010 8:35

Originally posted by DXR88:
i bet the US Navy could fix it.

i know why all there attempts have failed because every on they've tried requires the oil flow to stop completely you cant do this you need to make a cap with 2 small holes big enough for a hose have the hose, above water level the send in a team of divers to connect the other end of the hose to the open cap easy as pie.
First the depth prevents divers from reaching the well head. Second, I venture that it is impossible to attach any type of hose to the damaged BOP. Anyone ever connected another hose to a hose that is on full force. The pressure prevents it. :)

125.6.2010 10:30

Originally posted by garmoon:
Originally posted by DXR88:
i bet the US Navy could fix it.

i know why all there attempts have failed because every on they've tried requires the oil flow to stop completely you cant do this you need to make a cap with 2 small holes big enough for a hose have the hose, above water level the send in a team of divers to connect the other end of the hose to the open cap easy as pie.
First the depth prevents divers from reaching the well head. Second, I venture that it is impossible to attach any type of hose to the damaged BOP. Anyone ever connected another hose to a hose that is on full force. The pressure prevents it. :)
not if you have some kind of Auxiliary pump or auxiliary well. lets just put it this way there never going to fix it completely there going to have to slow it down first as like you said the pressures just to high and will just blow off whatever they but on it.

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135.6.2010 20:04

Originally posted by KillerBug:

The fact is that BP cannot fix this. The government needs to step in an take control...and give it to someone competent, or at least someone who has an idea that has not already been shown to be impossible.
They can they just don't want to lose the well.

SO you try all sorts of useless and pointless things and ideas to stop it.

If they can stop a burning oil well on land they can do the same under water.

145.6.2010 22:17

It will stop once the reservoir is drained completely. Or should I say, when the pressures equalize. With oil being less dense than water, when it drains completely.

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155.6.2010 22:50

xtago, they set off an explosive device just above the well head to eliminate the oxygen feeding the fire. once fire is out then they go in with the oil still gushing out under pressure to turn off the valve in the well head. can't do that underwater as the oil is not burning.

165.6.2010 23:51

At some point, as ddp points out, when the pressure drops, then they might be able to go back to the pumping mud back into the hole and stop it that way. I just don't see how they can drill the other two wells and actually hit the casing of the blown out well which is what they are telling us they are attempting to do. And now the oil is at Pensacola, FL-it's the nasty heavy brownish orange stuff.

177.6.2010 0:16

Divers can go that deep; they have to wear diving gear that looks like the big daddy from bioshock, but they can do it.

Welding equipment does work at the depths...400m is generally the limit for a diver, but there is equipment that can go down deeper than the 1500m that the well is at...equipment that would work if used by a remote sub.

MY PLAN:

1.) get a tube that is slightly larger in inner diameter than the blown tube's outer diameter.
2.) Cut notches in the sides of the new tube, so that a steel plate can be slid into the side of the pipe, blocking most of the flow.
3.) Weld a "quick-connect" fitting on the top of the new pipe.
4.) Connect a valve to a "quick-connect" fitting to fit the one from step 3.
5.) Put the new pipe over the old one (without the plate, so it is open enough that it can go on without getting pushed off)/
6.) Weld new pipe in place on well.
7.) Insert steel plate in pipe, reducing flow to quick-connect valve.
8.) Connect the quick-connect fittings with valve open.
9.) Weld areas around steel plate slots where oil is coming out.
10.) Close valve.

I can't say for sure that it would work...but at least it hasn't been shown to be impossible.

187.6.2010 13:57

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Divers can go that deep; they have to wear diving gear that looks like the big daddy from bioshock, but they can do it.

Welding equipment does work at the depths...400m is generally the limit for a diver, but there is equipment that can go down deeper than the 1500m that the well is at...equipment that would work if used by a remote sub.

MY PLAN:

1.) get a tube that is slightly larger in inner diameter than the blown tube's outer diameter.
2.) Cut notches in the sides of the new tube, so that a steel plate can be slid into the side of the pipe, blocking most of the flow.
3.) Weld a "quick-connect" fitting on the top of the new pipe.
4.) Connect a valve to a "quick-connect" fitting to fit the one from step 3.
5.) Put the new pipe over the old one (without the plate, so it is open enough that it can go on without getting pushed off)/
6.) Weld new pipe in place on well.
7.) Insert steel plate in pipe, reducing flow to quick-connect valve.
8.) Connect the quick-connect fittings with valve open.
9.) Weld areas around steel plate slots where oil is coming out.
10.) Close valve.

I can't say for sure that it would work...but at least it hasn't been shown to be impossible.
Sounds legit except for the welding parts.You put a torch with Oxygen spewing out to let the torch burn will ignite the Hydrates and also the Nat Gas. Probably why they didn't try just cutting pipe off with a torch.

197.6.2010 14:08

The Russians have (5 or so times now) resolved similar leaks by exploding mini nuclear bombs, BP/the US don't seem to be taking this huge spill seriously enough, they seem dead set against outside help (from James Cameron and others) and any outside ideas.

Plus ~

The Vampire Squid of the banking world (Goldman Sachs) dumped 4+ million BP shares a few weeks before the Oil spill

BP chief Tony Hayward sold shares weeks before oil spill

Quote:
The chief executive of BP sold 1.4 million of his shares in the fuel giant weeks before the Gulf of Mexico oil spill caused its value to collapse.

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209.6.2010 6:17

Yup...and their disaster readiness report ignored most of the potential problems, the staff on the rig was cut right before the disaster, BP was pushing the employees to skip safety steps in order to get higher productivity, etc, etc, etc. I wouldn't even be surprised if they skimped on the blowout preventer...that might explain why it jammed so severely that rather than closing it, they have to try all these strange solutions.

I figured that if it was possible to ignite the flow underwater, it would still be on fire from the initial blaze...but I am no expert in thermodynamics at 1 mile under water.

BTW...have they admitted what happened to cause all this yet? It seems obvious to me, but I am an outsider and I am not an oil man, so I don't have all the details. I do know that a jammed blowout preventer can cause an explosion, and I know that the blowout preventer is jammed open...but I am not sure if that is a symptom or a cause of the explosion.

219.6.2010 11:01

Originally posted by creaky:
The Russians have (5 or so times now) resolved similar leaks by exploding mini nuclear bombs, BP/the US don't seem to be taking this huge spill seriously enough, they seem dead set against outside help (from James Cameron and others) and any outside ideas.

Plus ~

The Vampire Squid of the banking world (Goldman Sachs) dumped 4+ million BP shares a few weeks before the Oil spill

BP chief Tony Hayward sold shares weeks before oil spill

Quote:
The chief executive of BP sold 1.4 million of his shares in the fuel giant weeks before the Gulf of Mexico oil spill caused its value to collapse.

very interesting, sabotage perhaps.

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229.6.2010 11:04

Which reminds me...

CONFIRMED: Aerial Video Shows Second Leaking Rig Near The Deepwater Horizon

BP buys Google, Yahoo search words:Is it to keep people from real news on Gulf oil spill disaster?




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239.6.2010 11:13

Originally posted by creaky:
Which reminds me...

CONFIRMED: Aerial Video Shows Second Leaking Rig Near The Deepwater Horizon

BP buys Google, Yahoo search words:Is it to keep people from real news on Gulf oil spill disaster?
id like nothing more to see off shore rigs closed for good, at least until they figure out how to stop such a disaster before it happens. its a dame shame is what it is but what can we do.

249.6.2010 13:13
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259.6.2010 14:07
bobshell
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Whatever technical help is available to BP should be used.

269.6.2010 17:51

ya know what. im sorry but FUC* BP!!! WHO CARES about who owns what or yes or no.. Theres people out there that have the know how do fix this.. and need to get off there ass and JUST DO IT! buthey ohwell its only our planet. fu*k it

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279.6.2010 18:17

Originally posted by DXR88:
i bet the US Navy could fix it.

i know why all there attempts have failed because every on they've tried requires the oil flow to stop completely you cant do this you need to make a cap with 2 small holes big enough for a hose have the hose, above water level the send in a team of divers to connect the other end of the hose to the open cap easy as pie.
Amen, The squids could fix this faster than Obama can find someone to be angry at.

289.6.2010 18:29

@creaky

surely you don't advocate using nuclear bomb 90 miles off the coast and mouth of the Mississippi? Half-life of the by products will stain the whole eco system in the Gulf. And as we have no pristine beaches, there are 500 miles of them east and down to Miami which would get the poison. How 'bout one off the mouth of the Thames? I think not.

@DXR88

Quote:
id like nothing more to see off shore rigs closed for good, at least until they figure out how to stop such a disaster before it happens. its a dame shame is what it is but what can we do.
I sure hope you don't drive a car. Stopping all offshore production would double or triple the price of gasoline in the US and elsewhere. Louisiana produces roughly 30% of US oil and Natural gas. Texas is more. And unless coal, nuclear, and hydro-power can produce all the electricity for the country, you won't be posting here and me neither. Not to mention the 40,000 jobs LA would lose in petro industry. That's why the 500ft deep inshore ban has already been lifted. Just pray we don't get a huge grazing hurricane strafing south of us and heading into Corpus Christi. Taking out production platforms in N W Gulf and gasoline refineries from New Orleans around to Brownsville.

Bad Pathetic Oil Co will be gone after this mess is over. And BP's CEO has about as much tact as an oil drenched pelican-and it's life expectancy.
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299.6.2010 19:26

Originally posted by garmoon:
@creaky

surely you don't advocate using nuclear bomb 90 miles off the coast and mouth of the Mississippi? Half-life of the by products will stain the whole eco system in the Gulf. And as we have no pristine beaches, there are 500 miles of them east and down to Miami which would get the poison. How 'bout one off the mouth of the Thames? I think not.

@DXR88

Quote:
id like nothing more to see off shore rigs closed for good, at least until they figure out how to stop such a disaster before it happens. its a dame shame is what it is but what can we do.
I sure hope you don't drive a car. Stopping all offshore production would double or triple the price of gasoline in the US and elsewhere. Louisiana produces roughly 30% of US oil and Natural gas. Texas is more. And unless coal, nuclear, and hydro-power can produce all the electricity for the country, you won't be posting here and me neither. Not to mention the 40,000 jobs LA would lose in petro industry. That's why the 500ft deep inshore ban has already been lifted. Just pray we don't get a huge grazing hurricane strafing south of us and heading into Corpus Christi. Taking out production platforms in N W Gulf and gasoline refineries from New Orleans around to Brownsville.

Bad Pathetic Oil Co will be gone after this mess is over. And BP's CEO has about as much tact as an oil drenched pelican-and it's life expectancy.
there should have been measures in place, if they cant do it themselves then automate it.

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309.6.2010 20:00

Originally posted by DXR88:
Originally posted by garmoon:
@creaky

surely you don't advocate using nuclear bomb 90 miles off the coast and mouth of the Mississippi? Half-life of the by products will stain the whole eco system in the Gulf. And as we have no pristine beaches, there are 500 miles of them east and down to Miami which would get the poison. How 'bout one off the mouth of the Thames? I think not.

@DXR88

Quote:
id like nothing more to see off shore rigs closed for good, at least until they figure out how to stop such a disaster before it happens. its a dame shame is what it is but what can we do.
I sure hope you don't drive a car. Stopping all offshore production would double or triple the price of gasoline in the US and elsewhere. Louisiana produces roughly 30% of US oil and Natural gas. Texas is more. And unless coal, nuclear, and hydro-power can produce all the electricity for the country, you won't be posting here and me neither. Not to mention the 40,000 jobs LA would lose in petro industry. That's why the 500ft deep inshore ban has already been lifted. Just pray we don't get a huge grazing hurricane strafing south of us and heading into Corpus Christi. Taking out production platforms in N W Gulf and gasoline refineries from New Orleans around to Brownsville.

Bad Pathetic Oil Co will be gone after this mess is over. And BP's CEO has about as much tact as an oil drenched pelican-and it's life expectancy.
there should have been measures in place, if they cant do it themselves then automate it.
The MMS or whatever is supposed to be monitoring the wells and BOPs. Another failed government entity that can't do it's job because of corruption. BP and Halliburton with the Horizon drillers and owners cut corners and it will all come out.

3110.6.2010 14:32

I haven't looked into how close the 2 or 3 leaks are from land, i was just reading the other day that this kind of thing isn't too out of the ordinary in Russia as they've dealt with 5 or so leaks previously with mini nukes.




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3210.6.2010 17:48

@Creaky

Yeah we understand down here. My first thought was using one of those bunker busting bombs to snuff the hole out like they used in Afghan. There have been many countries offering to help but our Commissar is too proud to ask for it and too busy trying to cover his arse in everything political. The leaks are close to the mouth of the Miss river. And the second possible leak is only 60 miles and has been leaking for months and maybe years. They have been trying to stop leak for a while but the news about this well has just come to light. BP will be lucky to emerge from this mess. We have no BP gas stations here so they wouldn't be hurt by any boycott here which was sure to happen and is in several other states. LA, TX and OK should just take a summer hiatus and stop all production and refining and show the world how much power we can wield. US would have to make up shortage on the world market and everyone would suffer with staggering prices. US would not have enough gasoline to operate. Oh the lines. LOL

BUT as bad as it looks on TV, the fish are still being caught and seafood is being harvested in unclosed fisheries. I still have no idea where those fish have been swimming tho. Are they fit to eat? I'll pass.

3311.6.2010 6:19

Am just listening to the radio, it would appear that BP and the US government have been telling us a few porkies...

Apparently, BP have made an ever so slightly catastrophic mistake, if this is true they had been drilling 25,000 to 30,000 feet, in addition to the 5,000 feet of water, and had drilled into some kind of super deep well, containing something called abiotic oil, and the reason for the (so far) unstoppable leaks is due to the wellhead pressure being (and i quote) between 20,000 and 70,000 PSI, which is (again, i quote) uncontrollable due to no technology existing to deal with such extreme pressures. So there's millions of gallons a day being blasted out and up from at least 3 fissures under the sea. There's apparently only one possible solution, to use a nuke of some sort, but they are terrified of trying this as they don't know the implications of nuking one of these super wells ie if the nuke fails to plug the leaks would it blow the whole underwater chasm open, for good. Apparently the Russians have previously drilled into one or more of these deep super wells, but only on land, it's never been attemped at sea before, and from what i gather, the reason the Deepwater rig and it's safety devices were destroyed was due to the extreme pressure of the oil escaping from the super well.
I've never heard of abiotic oil but my very small amount of googling shows that apparently these super wells are what replenishes the normal oil wells, hence why the oil fields never actually run out of oil despite us always being told porkies that the oil wells are almost empty. Rather disturbing is that i saw the words 'Gulf stream' mentioned, there's speculation that the oil leaks are so vast, and could possibly take years to plug (if at all), that the gulf stream could be affected, and the Gulf stream obviously has a lot to do with the temperature, certainly here in Europe anyways.

More reading is needed, but so far it would appear that this is a mistake, albeit catastrophic, by BP as opposed to a deliberate destruction of the rig, and the reason for the huge share selloff's prior to the explosion could just be good old cashing in before a potential accident happens, except the accident could be ever so slightly more serious than anyone knows how to deal with.

There's apparently more to it (worse than the above), but am still listening to the radio show..

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It's being discussed just before the 3rd hour of yesterday's Alex Jones show here ~ http://rss.infowars.com/20100610_Thu_Alex.mp3 (from exactly 3hours onwards).

(Anyone blinkered enough to shout conspiracy theorist/theories - i'm not interested in petty opinions, just listen or don't), though this one i highly recommend listening to.

edit-
Well it's Corexit 9500 or the chemicals from the undersea fissures (mentioned later on in the radio show) ~
BP oil spill Corexit dispersants suspected in widespread crop damage

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3411.6.2010 15:03

I have heard of the endless replaceable oil reservoirs before only as theory and believed them nevertheless. I didn't know it had a specific name now. Since the first contrived oil shortages of the early 70s until present day, the oil seems to never be actually in short supply. The only time it is, is when it's throttled at the wellhead with a wrench by opec or weather. The rich sheiks have to have a certain per barrel price to keep their life styles safe and their imprisoned citizenry under control, semi-happy, and totally uneducated. We can all go down the lists and name these countries; and newer ones come online each year. The "spice must flow" syndrome.

I don't believe in any conspiracy (that could change). Our drilling technology has outstripped the production capability to handle great pressures at depth.

You are correct about the Gulf Stream. It's what gives you Brits your warmer climate than should be at your latitude. It's also going to be a conveyor belt that brings US Atlantic seaboard and the rest of the world a taste of New Orleans-just not the gastronomic one. A shame! We have a beautiful state to our eyes (we have ugly sand beaches because of the Mississippi drainage, but one can stand on them and catch speckled trout, red fish, etc, until ones arm is sore, and we look at life a lot different than most folks. We lead simple lives but we are not simpletons. We just want our lifestyles back, and soon.

3511.6.2010 16:23

Let's not even mention that this may have been averted if the 'back to horse and buggy' crowd had allowed nuclear power plant construction for the last 20 some years. By restricting the near shore undersea drilling and forcing the drilling rigs to greater depths, the very groups that wanted to avoid what has happened may have hastened it.

And the thought of criticism from the likes of Director James Cameron... Has a ground breaking 3D movie and the only thing that he can use for a story line is the socially crippled childlike 'Science Fiction' that was abandoned in the 1930's.

Any race that can travel between stars could mine all the minerals that it needs from asteroid belts without plunging into a gravity well for them. Instead he chose to subject us all to his liberal guilt laden tale. With thinking as uncritical and prejudiced as his we will never have to worry about travel to distant stars... as we will never develop any higher technology if all we have is solar and wind power. You can't even fly around the world much less enter orbit with those two.

Perhaps James should start planning the story line for the next United States.... the only question is whether or not he should write it in Chinese... if we continue to borrow money from them the will never have to fire a shot to take over.

3611.6.2010 16:35

Originally posted by ironmonger:
Let's not even mention that this may have been averted if the 'back to horse and buggy' crowd had allowed nuclear power plant construction for the last 20 some years. By restricting the near shore undersea drilling and forcing the drilling rigs to greater depths, the very groups that wanted to avoid what has happened may have hastened it.

And the thought of criticism from the likes of Director James Cameron... Has a ground breaking 3D movie and the only thing that he can use for a story line is the socially crippled childlike 'Science Fiction' that was abandoned in the 1930's.

Any race that can travel between stars could mine all the minerals that it needs from asteroid belts without plunging into a gravity well for them. Instead he chose to subject us all to his liberal guilt laden tale. With thinking as uncritical and prejudiced as his we will never have to worry about travel to distant stars... as we will never develop any higher technology if all we have is solar and wind power. You can't even fly around the world much less enter orbit with those two.

Perhaps James should start planning the story line for the next United States.... the only question is whether or not he should write it in Chinese... if we continue to borrow money from them the will never have to fire a shot to take over.
oh yes they will trust me when i say that. the govt might bend over and say here have California for your settlement, but i can bet your ass the American people wont.

if you tally all the militias in the united states you would find that the shear number of people belonging to such groups would make the Chinese army with over 100 million strong look like a small scale platoon than an actual army. the US Government fears the people as it should.

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3711.6.2010 19:51

This is all crap. BP and the States affected have been forced not to do the things that would work and prevent the damage by the marxists running the USSA. There have been several things BP wanted to do, but The Chosen One's administration has forbidden it. They see this as a great opportunity to further destroy their enemy's economy, the people they're ruling. Notice no more drilling or extracting of any oil by amerikan companies, and the renewed push towards the cap and tax laws and further destruction of the energy sector.
No, I'm not saying that the government created the spill or blew up the oil rig (however, I am saying that is within the character of this thugocracy). I am saying though that the situation is intentionally being extended and exacerbated by this administration for the way it increases their power and fits into their long term revolutionary goals.


P.S. I'll expect a knock on my door from DHS or the FBI shortly after posting this.

3812.6.2010 22:07

James Cameron makes those morons at BP look like genius(s). Young Democratics make James Cameron look like Einstein. They are calling a boycott on BP! What a joke, if that will put the fear of god into them when losing tens of billions won't. Nothing a billion more miles of red tape can't bury!

This is what happens when you have well intentioned morons making regulations. Too bad the regulations didn't fix anything they only made things 100 times worse. I am sure the pecker woods are dreaming up a ton more regulations.

Maybe if Obama wasn't so busy blaming BP for their incompetance the US might have gotten the oil containment & clean up equipment out there a month earlier.

3912.6.2010 22:19

garmoon, what conspiracy? Maybe they bribed a few officials. But to try to something like this???? It may put them out of business. Their stock went through the floor boards.

4013.6.2010 4:35

It sounds like to me that this (delay in plugging the leaks), if not due to sheer inability to stem the leaks, is all about Obama playing the leaks (like a trump card) to bring in his carbon taxes. Nationalise the oil industry too ?, don't know. I can't see what else it could be. I'm collating more info on the subject that will probably take this article a little further away from the article's title ie i'm more interested in the overall leaks, not just the tiny James Cameron aspect, so any developments i find will be posted here onwards - that link details that the EPA have indeed monitored one of the toxic gases to be near to the levels described by Lindsay Williams in the radio show i linked to in my previous post.

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4113.6.2010 10:03

@Mez

There were early rumors that the well was blown intentionally-pick your culprit. Now, as Creaky points out , the delays are to promote the Cap Tax he wants to imposed. But any further delays are just ruining his popularity -as if he had much left before. It will be a miracle if Cap and Tax passes. This is election year and politicos don't want any new taxes. That too late. They will be be replaced in Nov hopefully. I really don't think taht anyone could do any better about collecting oil in the water; it's just coming out so fast. I heard last night that it has probably entered the Loop current and will be in Fla soon. That may be the reason Obamarama may have given BP until today to come up with something new. I don't think BP has any other solutions. We haven't heard of any. And now the very beaches we spend at week at each year are contaminated and closed for swimming. This problem is not going to go away soon.

4213.6.2010 22:40

Originally posted by garmoon:
@Mez

There were early rumors that the well was blown intentionally-pick your culprit. Now, as Creaky points out , the delays are to promote the Cap Tax he wants to imposed. But any further delays are just ruining his popularity -as if he had much left before. It will be a miracle if Cap and Tax passes. This is election year and politicos don't want any new taxes. That too late. They will be be replaced in Nov hopefully. I really don't think taht anyone could do any better about collecting oil in the water; it's just coming out so fast. I heard last night that it has probably entered the Loop current and will be in Fla soon. That may be the reason Obamarama may have given BP until today to come up with something new. I don't think BP has any other solutions. We haven't heard of any. And now the very beaches we spend at week at each year are contaminated and closed for swimming. This problem is not going to go away soon.
It wouldn't have been done by the US Gov that would be silly.

Something has either been put together wrong or has gone boom for what ever reason, the rigs would be processing oil as well so it's easier to deal with, the flame they have is there to burn excess fumes from processing and that flame has to be a good 50 meters in size seeing as you can be 1 klm away and you'll still see a large flame.


The Australia Gov tried the same thing it got shot down why because you have a bunch of people paying for other countries Co2 emissions for the sake of a couple of greenies who are trying to keep the planet at the same whether pattern of 20 years ago, it won't work because the planet is forever changing, it's not going to suddenly die off etc and that's been proven by the length of time it's been here for 3 hundred trillion years or more.

The Australian tax worked on keeping a % of what you claimed back on so if you normally got a $1000 back then the gov might keep 10% of that which might not sound much writen like that, but the % could be any amount, so 1 year you could pay 10% the next if china pumped out more Co2 then you could be paying 40%, all to say your saving on cutting down Co2 gas.

Which you can't as you don't own nor run a factory that makes the stuff anyway so it's simply all going to the gov as revenue.

As for BP they'll probably do what I said at the start of the comments in a couple weeks.

4313.6.2010 22:51

its not cars or greenhouses gases that are killing this planet its over population that's killing this planet.


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4414.6.2010 13:02

@xtago

Quote:
It wouldn't have been done by the US Gov that would be silly.
Normally I would agree with you but this government's favorite slogan is "never let a good disaster go to waste." Anything to get populace against big oil for Cap and Trade passage. No I don't believe that happened but strange things do occur.

And I am still waiting for the expert, James Cameroon, to offer his solution. Not much help so far, just oiled red herrings all around.

4514.6.2010 14:43

garmoon, the better for the herrings to slide down your throat.

4614.6.2010 17:50

ddp I hate fish. But love all seafood. Strange for where I live. After I typed that, I saw where all the herring fishing has been stopped in Valdez, Alaska ever since their spill.

I also heard today that BP is just playing right now and knew that anything they tried would NOT work. They are waiting for the well head pressure to drop but it has showed no signs of doing so. We're basically buttered toast down here. Heatwave to boot. We've been under heat advisory for at least 5 straight days. 95+ and humidity.

4715.6.2010 20:45

This was one of the funniest articles I have read in a while. A movie director as an 'expert' in the oil business?? Please. What next? Ronald McDonald calling their menu a 'gourmet' offering?

4819.6.2010 13:07

Send in the Navy Seals.

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