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Powerful Wii 2 coming at E3, Wii to sell for $150 starting next month

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 14 Apr 2011 18:59 User comments (49)

Powerful Wii 2 coming at E3, Wii to sell for $150 starting next month According to multiple sources, Nintendo is planning to unveil the Wii 2 at the upcoming E3 event in June, while at the same time slashing the price of the Wii to $150 beginning May 15th.
The sources say the new Wii will boast more powerful specs than the PlayStation 3 and a newly redesigned controller will have a built-in HD screen.

Game publishers have already been alerted to the new console, and launch titles are already in the works for the 2012 anticipated launch.

Outside of having more powerful graphics than the PS3 and Xbox 360, the console will be backwards compatible with all current Wii games.

The timing works well with the rumor that Nintendo also plans to slash the price of the Wii to $150 next month, and then to $99 in 2012 ahead of the Wii 2 launch.

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49 user comments

114.4.2011 19:04

would be worried if it wasn't more powerful than 5 year old consoles.

214.4.2011 19:17

Originally posted by brockie:
would be worried if it wasn't more powerful than 5 year old consoles.
True, I love my Wii, but the graphics are very bad on most games. Most likely they will finally implement 1080i/p (finally) and an HDMI port...being outdated in a few months by the PS4 and/or the Xbox 720...

DS Warrior ! ! !

314.4.2011 19:17

This is something I am truly excited for. It's about due. Even with interest decreasing, it still outsold both next-gen consoles, but I predict that the Wii-2 will continue to keep Nintendo on top. I was disappointed with the Wii, but came to accept that it had its place in my household. I will definitely be buying the Wii-2 on release date.

Turned out to be a good strategy. Make 2 five year consoles to compete against Sony's 10-year console.

Originally posted by DSWarrior:
True, I love my Wii, but the graphics are very bad on most games. Most likely they will finally implement 1080i/p (finally) and an HDMI port...being outdated in a few months by the PS4 and/or the Xbox 720...
I highly doubt the PS4 will come shortly after the Wii-2. I've heard rumors, but they've been debunked. Sony needs to make money. They've lost money for 4 years. A 10 year console would give them some profit.
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414.4.2011 19:43

I am interested to see what Nintendo has up their sleeve. The lack of good titles from 3rd party developers and weak online play hurt the Wii but some of the "Exclusives" are pretty good. Despite the lower graphics I think the Wii is a good and reliable system and has to be given credit to starting the whole motion game revolution and making it mainstream.

If they can make it compatible with Wii v.1 games I will definitely get this system.


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514.4.2011 20:36

Add a HDD, Blu-ray player, Offer the full catalog of NES-SNES-N64 games for download from the classic channel, Reliable online gaming network, 1080i/p HD resolution with an HDMI, BC with Wii 1 and Game cube games keep it priced ridiculously competitive like the last gen model and I'll be there on launch day.



614.4.2011 21:18

wii = for kids just like the DSI. We will see with the wii2. Nintendo is famous for over-hype and under-delivering ...its been that way for at least 20 years.

There was a time where anything with that nintendo stamp on it would sell without question ...that time has passed a decade ago.

I would suspect it will be intel ATOM or tegra2 based ... being nintendo doesn't have the cash on hand to develop a new use for a cell.

If it has stellar games (you need more than Zelda and SMB to get me to buy it) and will play matroska video ... ill buy it just for the movie capability.

714.4.2011 22:53
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Wow a HD screen in the controller? must be a big controller to have a 1280x720p screen on it.

814.4.2011 23:09

I don't think MS or Sony are any where ready to release another console. MS has said they regretted dumping the original Xbox so early and will not do it to the 360. Sony has put some of the newest and best hardware in the PS3 when they released it so they would not have to make a newer console so fast. I really do like this move who wants to buy a new consoles every 5 or so years?

915.4.2011 0:15

Originally posted by trainmstr:
wii = for kids just like the DSI. We will see with the wii2. Nintendo is famous for over-hype and under-delivering ...its been that way for at least 20 years.

There was a time where anything with that nintendo stamp on it would sell without question ...that time has passed a decade ago.

I would suspect it will be intel ATOM or tegra2 based ... being nintendo doesn't have the cash on hand to develop a new use for a cell.

If it has stellar games (you need more than Zelda and SMB to get me to buy it) and will play matroska video ... ill buy it just for the movie capability.
what are you talking about. nintendo has alot of cash , have you seen their sales , comon where have you been for the past five years

1015.4.2011 5:45

It makes sense...their current console is just a hair faster than the PS2...so their next console should be just a hair faster than a PS3.

That whole "HD screen in the controller" bit makes me think that they are going to do something even dumber than the WiiMote...a touchscreen controller for a home system...a bit like a DS where the bottom screen is your controller and the top screen is your TV. We will have to see...but I suspect that the Wii 2 will be 100% focused on the "casual" market.

As for bluray, maybe Nintendo has seen the light...I remember one of their bosses said that Nintendo users do not want HD or bluray...but if they are including HD screens in the controllers, they must be ignoring that iddiot.

BTW...the Wii outsold "all current generation consoles"...but it isn't a "current generation console", so that isn't really a fair fight. You might as well say that the Wii outsold alienware gaming laptops...it is a whole different game. Really, the Wii only sold about 1/2 as many units as the PS2...and the PS2 is the closest system in terms of performance and features.



1115.4.2011 6:15

I'm excited for this. I'm hoping for perfect Gamecube and Wii 1 compatibility with native HD rendering, meaning no stretching or blowing up a low-res image. Preferrably with a fixed aspect-ratio.

Give me that and you have my money, Nintendo. I can do the rest through Homebrew. :P

Originally posted by KillerBug:
It makes sense...their current console is just a hair faster than the PS2...

If by "A hair faster than" you mean "Twice as fast as", then you are correct.
Check the respective pages on Wikipedia if you don't believe me: CPU speed is more than twice the clock of the PS2.

A hair faster than the Xbox1 would be a fair bit of conjecture, but the PS2 was the weakest of the previous gen in terms of power.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
That whole "HD screen in the controller" bit makes me think that they are going to do something even dumber than the WiiMote...a touchscreen controller for a home system...a bit like a DS where the bottom screen is your controller and the top screen is your TV. We will have to see...

I agree that it could get iffy, and having an HD screen in a controller would probably just serve to jack up prices with little benefit.
But, yeah, we'll have to see.
What, specifically about the Wiimote was dumb? I found it to be rather versatile, they gave you a lot of options.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
but I suspect that the Wii 2 will be 100% focused on the "casual" market.

If you also suspect that Nintendo have lost their minds, fair enough, but keep in mind that not even the iPhone is "100%" casual.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
As for bluray, maybe Nintendo has seen the light...I remember one of their bosses said that Nintendo users do not want HD or bluray...but if they are including HD screens in the controllers, they must be ignoring that iddiot.

I liken that to Sony's "Gamers don't want Rumble" comment from back when the PS3 was launching: just covering their asses.
We'll see, though.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
BTW...the Wii outsold "all current generation consoles"...but it isn't a "current generation console", so that isn't really a fair fight.

Except it is, by definition.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
You might as well say that the Wii outsold alienware gaming laptops...it is a whole different game.

I think there would be a bit more crossover between PS3/360 users and Wii than specifically one specialized brand of computer, even if you only consider the difference in price.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Really, the Wii only sold about 1/2 as many units as the PS2...

Even with no numbers to back up your claim I say fair enough: even if you are right the PS2's been on the market for more than a decade while the Wii has been out for less than half that long.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
and the PS2 is the closest system in terms of performance and features.

See first quote.

I have to respect how outspoken you are, Killerbug, even if it is your posterior that you're speaking from.
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1215.4.2011 7:02

Originally posted by KillerBug:
BTW...the Wii outsold "all current generation consoles"...but it isn't a "current generation console", so that isn't really a fair fight. You might as well say that the Wii outsold alienware gaming laptops...it is a whole different game.
In some contexts you are correct. But not comparing specs, the big picture is that all three focus on consoles, and they are all in the arena at the same time. Alienware is not in the same arena. MS and Sony may have come out with AK-47's and Nintendo with an air gun, but they all fought for the same food. Regardless of demographic, there were people on the fence with the PS3 due to price. Hardcore, casual or family gamers stereotypes aside, it's the same fight for customers. The Wii paced itself and became the healthier of the 3 consoles.

1315.4.2011 12:45

These specs made me cry with joy.
also:

Quote:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
BTW...the Wii outsold "all current generation consoles"...but it isn't a "current generation console", so that isn't really a fair fight.

Wouldn't that make the Wii more impressive?

1415.4.2011 13:10

Quote:
Killerbug

That whole "HD screen in the controller" bit makes me think that they are going to do something even dumber than the WiiMote...
Man when you are off base you are way off! The WiiMote is what put them on top it wasn't GPU power like PS3 or Xbox!

I think this is the right move for Nintendo and it will keep them on top most likely.

1515.4.2011 13:58

Any word on GC compat with wii2?

1615.4.2011 14:00

I'll likely get one. Nintendo always impresses me. I wondered how it would fair competing with M$, and Sony's consoles. They're always family oriented, meaning their games are fit for children. My brother can hardly play his PS3 because most of the games are inappropriate for his children. Not saying those games don't have their place ;) I happen to like games that are inappropriate for children xD Hopefully the Wii 2 will bring back Diddy Kong racing. I realize that "Rare" Holds the rights ;)




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1715.4.2011 14:35

Clockspeed dosent matter for shit ddue, it's how much data it actually processos in each clock, so it's not cut and paste like yuo amke it seem, sounds like Apple and nintendo are going to work together, io could totally see using an iPhone or iPod Touch as a controller, they both have bluetooth, and i truely do not think they will release it this year, they still ahve Skyward Sword coming out this year, so Wii 2 won';t be here until AT LEAST 2012

1815.4.2011 14:36

if Nintendo impress's you, you would prob ably be iompressed by a rock

1915.4.2011 14:52

Originally posted by marcusj0015:
if Nintendo impress's you, you would prob ably be iompressed by a rock
Say what you want but Nintendo has always been an innovater in the video game world. They are the company that all other video game companies copy off of.

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2015.4.2011 15:11

Quote:
marcusj0015

ddue yuo amke io ahve won';t impress's prob ably iompressed
I'm following you! Right off the cliff...

2115.4.2011 15:33

Actually, some rocks do impress me :p

Nintendo always seems to have something up their sleeves. I'm sure this time will be no different.




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2215.4.2011 15:46

Originally posted by omegaman7:
Actually, some rocks do impress me :p

Nintendo always seems to have something up their sleeves. I'm sure this time will be no different.
I'm with you Oman7, same here! :)

2315.4.2011 17:41

An expansive, open world Hyrule and Mushroom Kingdom in full HD is all I can hope for in terms of software. Those franchises defined my childhood gaming experience. On the hardware side, I hope that Nintendo learns from the hardware mistakes of the 360, and PS3 for that matter...COOLING. MAKE THE CONSOLE THAT DOESN'T DOUBLE AS A GEORGE FOREMAN GRILL!!!

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2415.4.2011 17:43

LOL! People do need to keep placement in mind though. Storing/running the console in an enclosed area barely large enough for it, is NOT a good idea LOL! I've seen people run their PS3's this way. Not good...

Agreed though. The first Generation Wii, doesn't run very hot. I hope the next Wii is same/similar.




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2516.4.2011 3:26

The PS2 is still being sold new...does that mean that is is considered, "A current generation console"? Maybe you consider "current generation" to simply be the last console made by a given company...but then the Intellivision would be a "current generation console" from Mattel.

Yeah...the Wii is a lot faster in terms of clock speed than the PS2...but the games are of the same visual quality (at least the upper-end games are; low-end Wii games are of SNES quality). Considering that most devs have either stopped Wii development or admitted that they cannot deliver anything close to the 360/PS3 experience with the console, I would say that there isn't much going unused in their fight to match the old PS2. There is also no hard drive (even the PS2 had this as an option).

I defend my hatred of the WiiMote...it took them years to release the second half of the controller so it actually sorta worked, and there is still enough delay to say, "Wow, this sucks" before the thing responds. As a test of your psychic powers, it is great...as a game controller it is junk. The only potentially good use I have ever found for it was sword/lightsaber fighting...and it is too slow for those anyway. Nintendo wouldn't be including a DS2 knock-off with certain games if the WiiMote was worth a crap.

Originally posted by bobiroc:
Originally posted by marcusj0015:
if Nintendo impress's you, you would prob ably be iompressed by a rock
Say what you want but Nintendo has always been an innovater in the video game world. They are the company that all other video game companies copy off of.
I assume you are referring to the Move and the Kinect...well, they are not the same. Similar idea, but Nintendo didn't invent it...Star Trek did. Nintendo just released a half-working version of it. I don't like the Move or the Kinect...but they are both able to read 3D movement, and neither has the delay of a WiiMote. Better still, they are both OPTIONAL...meaning that the consoles are not just for casual gamers. Sure, they do a lot of invention...but most of their inventions are crap...anyone remember the powerglove? How about the Virtual Boy? I own one of each (I got them very cheap at garage sales)...I keep them around to remind myself that Nintendo will push any product to the customer, even if they know it is total garbage.


2616.4.2011 7:44

Originally posted by KillerBug:
The PS2 is still being sold new...does that mean that is is considered, "A current generation console"? Maybe you consider "current generation" to simply be the last console made by a given company...but then the Intellivision would be a "current generation console" from Mattel.
lol, that's just silly. Not any given company. Only the 3 big ones that are competing for the same pool of customers - those who like video games. Not compete for the most powerful machine. The Wii was released to compete with Sony and MS in the same category that the PS3 and 360 were in. They just used a different strategy. Not talking about specs. Just customers and timing. I understand what you are saying, but there isn't just one way to look at it.

2716.4.2011 8:34

That's a good way to put it emugamer, KillerBug also missed the Atari 2600 which they still sell if he wanted to be even more ridicules in his argument.

The WiiMote is what sold the console to the public and the public loves it, obviously! Does Bluetooth have it faults? Yes big time! Does the WiiMote work good overall? Yes absolutely even from the start! But there always is room for improvement as well. It took them years to developed and release the Wii Remote? Yes it did but how long did it take Sony to revamp the PS2 into a PS3? MS made TWO new consoles in the time it took Sony to make its next generation console and the PS3 still doesn't have anything over the 360!

Once again you seem to be off base and the facts are that the Wii even with its faults out performs the others in sales and popularity. Plus all consoles have their faults definitely the 360 and even PS3 do! But that doesn't make them bad necessarily however the 360's breakdown rate is very discouraging.

2816.4.2011 10:43

yeah, Zelda in Full HD with a VERY large world (200+ hours of gameplay) would be awesome, but i've learned that Nintendo Hardware sucks balls, the games aren't too bad usually, but the hardware is utter shit

2916.4.2011 11:40

I've had a Wii since it came out, it has never gone down, broke, or needed repair. I have friends who have gone though 3-4 360's since I owned my Wii's, DAMN that Wii hardware is bad, I want a 360!

Smoke another one there marcus you're definately not high enough!

3016.4.2011 12:24

Originally posted by jookycola:
Add a HDD, Blu-ray player, Offer the full catalog of NES-SNES-N64 games for download from the classic channel, Reliable online gaming network, 1080i/p HD resolution with an HDMI, BC with Wii 1 and Game cube games keep it priced ridiculously competitive like the last gen model and I'll be there on launch day.
Why stop there? Why not see if you can get 'em to toss in a romp with Angelina Jolie while riding on the back of a unicorn?
/I keed, I keed

3116.4.2011 17:56

Say what you want about the Wii. The bottom line fact is that most of us currently own or have owned a Wii. Regardless of performance, the sales numbers have already spoken.

3216.4.2011 19:04

Cross-platform gaming is what Ninty's really after. They really are sick of being left out of this market....

I very much doubt it's "1080p" will be any higher than upscaled 720 or less. Same as the other two.


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3317.4.2011 0:22

Originally posted by Jemborg:
Cross-platform gaming is what Ninty's really after. They really are sick of being left out of this market....

I very much doubt it's "1080p" will be any higher than upscaled 720 or less. Same as the other two.
I disagree why wouldn't they put a full HD GPU in the new unit, they are cheap and readily available so there is no reason not too.

Now whether or not all of the games use the full HD is another story and a good argument.

3417.4.2011 4:11

Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by Jemborg:
Cross-platform gaming is what Ninty's really after. They really are sick of being left out of this market....

I very much doubt it's "1080p" will be any higher than upscaled 720 or less. Same as the other two.
I disagree why wouldn't they put a full HD GPU in the new unit, they are cheap and readily available so there is no reason not too.

Now whether or not all of the games use the full HD is another story and a good argument.
Ah, I didn't mean to give that impression. It will be able to play and stream HD video without a doubt.

I was strictly referring to gaming only. I was concurring with KillerBug that it will most likely just pip the PS3 (or X360) in performance.

There is a number of reasons for this, cost, cooling, adequateness for cross-platform titles and they can still say they are the most powerful platform.

It's certainly my belief that they could put more cpu and/or gpu ram in it, and their own titles would be able to exploit that at least. That's the cheapest upgrade. A better quality gpu than the X360's is not out of the question... and maybe the same for a cpu... just consider what's happened with the SandyBridge line... but, as I said, factor in cost and cooling.

Having watched the HD gaming market for a few years now I reckon they will not choose a complicated programming architecture, this will cut down the cost and get titles out more quickly. Ergo, it will be more like a Xbox hardware-wise.

A cost effective tactic would be if they can get the resolution of the games above 720p, then still upscale the rest of the way to 1080p, it would still look sharper than the xbox and 360. Hell, many games on them are only 600+p.

HD Audio over HDMI would be a killer bonus.

With all due respect, the Wii did not have a great attachment rate... many parents bought them with the best of intentions. Most languish gathering dust perhaps to be sold on as I have seen time and again. Young pre-family males with disposable incomes are not interested in them except for a few exclusive titles. In regards to innovation, skilled users have always preferred GameCube controllers. And whatever parallels are drawn, the waggle-stick does not compare to the Kinnect. A missile aimed squarely at the heart of the Wii. Rate of sales of which have surpassed anything ever, even the iPad, even the Wii itself. I'm just trying to be real here and Ninty aren't blind to it either.

Ninty wants some of that profitable online action too. And good for them, why not? The competition will benefit all of us, even PS3 and Xbox users. Hard core gamers will get one for the sake of it. I may even buy my first Nintendo. Go Ninty!



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3517.4.2011 9:34

Wii proves graphics are hardly the biggest deal in selling game consoles.
Besides 1080p for consoles is it for resolution for many years to come now cos that is where TV's are set to be for many years to come, which limits the need to get monster power.

Like the majority of Xbox 360 & PS3 games I expect 720p to be the most common native res (scaled to 1080p) with the occasional 1080p native game.......and nobody noticing or caring much either way.
(and maybe a handful of 600p games - or less like PS3's Ghostbusters @ 540p originally and then patched to 576.....again, like anyone really cares)

Very interested to read of further convergence on the PC/Xbox idea, it will make porting to Wii 2 easy.
It also infers that besides some tweaks we are where we are for some time to come yet.

Basically Wii2 is Nintendo joining this gen of consoles, they will all now look much the same and offer much the same features, at similar prices.

The only point of difference/interest I can see is whether Nintendo choose to incorporate a cheap Blu-ray player, a DVD player or include a proprietary storage media of their own - high definition film can easily be catered for by streaming as it is so who knows?.

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3617.4.2011 13:31

Heck, we should just go back to 480p, nobody would notice.


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3717.4.2011 13:40

There are other possibilities to consider like, will it be DLNA compatible?, will you be able to play against PC players for some games?, are just a couple I could come up with, given more time I could add to that as well.

3817.4.2011 18:34

WHY, does EVERYONE say that 720p is the most common resolution?

do you know ANYONE, THAT ACTUALLY BUYS THE LATEST CONSOLE, who has 720p? not 480, not 1080,only 720?

the standard def users don't count, because when they buy a new tv, all that will be available will be 1080p

3917.4.2011 22:00

Quote:
Jemborg
Heck, we should just go back to 480p, nobody would notice.
I didn't say nobody would notice, the point is res (whatever that may be) is not the be-all and end-all of a great game.

I've yet to see the bulk of Xbox 360 or PS3 owners complaining that most of their games are not native 1080p.
In other words, nobody really cares.

Quote:
marcusj0015
WHY, does EVERYONE say that 720p is the most common resolution?

do you know ANYONE, THAT ACTUALLY BUYS THE LATEST CONSOLE, who has 720p? not 480, not 1080,only 720?

the standard def users don't count, because when they buy a new tv, all that will be available will be 1080p



When your 1080p TV (or your HDMI receiver) scales that 720p (or less res) to 1080p anyways who cares?

Like I said, I simply do not see vast numbers of Xbox & PS3 owners complaining that only a handful of their games are native 1080p games.

Of course in the next gen that will change, but right now it's just not the biggest issue on anyone's mind that I can see.

4017.4.2011 22:43

Interestx, Up-converting isn't the same as full 1080p as a source there is a difference, noticeable difference. Your only as good as your source, sure they can give 480i/p a little pop when they re-interpolate and enhance the original source but that is not to be confused with the much better production done in full HD.

As to you point about resolution not being the most important piece, I totally agree with that. I'd rather play a lot of games made 20 years ago than some of this hi-end cgi crap they have now, don't get me wrong I prefer hires but still content is more important to me. That is why they still sell Atari 2600's and someone mentioned Intellivision which I'd like to get my hands on. I still have a Sega Genesis that I play from time to time just because the games are still good on it. I played NHL95 for the longest time and won't play the newer version because it was better than what is out there now.

4118.4.2011 1:30

Originally posted by KillerBug:
The PS2 is still being sold new...does that mean that is is considered, "A current generation console"?

Suddenly, an epiphany: You have absolutely no stinking idea as to what constitutes a generation.
Let me clue you in.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_%28seventh_generation%29

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Maybe you consider "current generation" to simply be the last console made by a given company...but then the Intellivision would be a "current generation console" from Mattel.

Ah, do I detect a shred of understanding? Then what was the point of your previous sentence? It seems to me it's been rendered superfluous.

If they made a clone of the Intellivision for the modern market sometime after 2005, that would indeed count as a part of this "Generation" of consoles.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Yeah...the Wii is a lot faster in terms of clock speed than the PS2...but the games are of the same visual quality (at least the upper-end games are; low-end Wii games are of SNES quality).

That, my friend, is a prime example of useless conjecture. The Wii is capable of graphical features the PS2 could only barely dream of.
For a brief example: dynamic lighting.
http://ps2media.gamespy.com/ps2/image/article/562/562785/ratchet-and-clank-up-your-arsenal-20041102025131755.jpg
http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/images/00/04/455_super-mario-galaxy-screenshots-20070711022419348_normal.jpg
http://img.hexus.net/v2/gaming/screenshots_wii/galaxy/galaxy2.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9MOywHCf_4Y/SqBlZThVcEI/AAAAAAAABwo/IxmdgnQqasQ/s400/ratchet-clank-4.jpg

But naw man fr realz cant see diffrnts.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Considering that most devs have either stopped Wii development or admitted that they cannot deliver anything close to the 360/PS3 experience with the console, I would say that there isn't much going unused in their fight to match the old PS2.

There are many reasons for 3rd party support on the Wii being lax the last few years. This is only one of many, and the reasons with in this reason are double.

Focusing on one thing truly strengthens your argument. Even if I can't tell what it is at this point.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
There is also no hard drive (even the PS2 had this as an option).

This has little to do with anything.
That would be like me saying "The PS2 didn't have an SD card slot or USB 2.0, it's clearly inferior".

Originally posted by KillerBug:
I defend my hatred of the WiiMote...it took them years to release the second half of the controller so it actually sorta worked, and there is still enough delay to say, "Wow, this sucks" before the thing responds. As a test of your psychic powers, it is great...as a game controller it is junk. The only potentially good use I have ever found for it was sword/lightsaber fighting...and it is too slow for those anyway.

Goodness, yet more bounty springs forth from the spout of conjecture. I'm truly blessed.
Boiling this lenghty paragraph down, I found this:
"I don't like it. It sucks."
Compelling.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Nintendo wouldn't be including a DS2 knock-off with certain games if the WiiMote was worth a crap.

I'm sorry, what?
"Nintendo wouldn't be including a Wiimote with certain games if the Gamecube controller was worth a crap."
Oh, I see.

Originally posted by bobiroc:
Originally posted by marcusj0015:
if Nintendo impress's you, you would prob ably be iompressed by a rock
Say what you want but Nintendo has always been an innovater in the video game world. They are the company that all other video game companies copy off of.
Originally posted by KillerBug:
I assume you are referring to the Move and the Kinect...well, they are not the same.

You'd be correct. In Kinect's case, anyway.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Similar idea, but Nintendo didn't invent it...Star Trek did.

"Like instant-food packets! Thank you, Star Trek, for creating and producing this wonderful marvel of modern technology."
If someone, say, invents a way to make the food packets from Star Trek, making them a reality as opposed to a work of fiction, they are by definition the "Inventor".
Fun with logic!

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Nintendo just released a half-working version of it.

Fun with conjecture!

Originally posted by KillerBug:
I don't like the Move or the Kinect...but they are both able to read 3D movement, and neither has the delay of a WiiMote.

Then when did it become a requirement? Who's standards are you holding this technology to?
This is a baffling development!

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Better still, they are both OPTIONAL...meaning that the consoles are not just for casual gamers.

This is on a game-to-game basis, not console-to-console.
Between the Gamecube controller, Classic Controller, Nunchuck and Wiimote, you have options out the ass providing the developer allows you to use them in their game.

Also, my little brother loves playing Dance Central with the 360 pad. Because that's, you know, possible.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Sure, they do a lot of invention...but most of their inventions are crap...anyone remember the powerglove? How about the Virtual Boy? I own one of each (I got them very cheap at garage sales)...I keep them around to remind myself that Nintendo will push any product to the customer, even if they know it is total garbage.

You've listed two bad ideas.

Portable video gaming
The D-Pad
Hardware scrolling
Shoulder buttons
Rumble in a controller
The external memory unit

I've listed six good ones.

You're totally right, dude, they have like totally no idea what they be do.
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4218.4.2011 3:06

Originally posted by Interestx:
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Heck, we should just go back to 480p, nobody would notice.
I didn't say nobody would notice, the point is res (whatever that may be) is not the be-all and end-all of a great game.
I know Interestx, I'm just "busting-your-balls". :D

I realise gameplay is what's most important.

If you read my posts correctly I have not suggested that Ninty should produce a console that plays in native 1080p.

However, higher resolutions produce less artefacts. And frankly being a fidelity nut, I like to see my games in their best available light. S'why my PC gfx card costs several PS3s LOL.

It's true what you wrote and I could get an even higher res monitor to play my PC titles on if I cared to. But frankly, I enjoy playing them on the lounge 50" plasma. So the line gets drawn at 1080p for them.

I agree there is no point in Ninty going higher than 720p. However, they would be wise investing in a system with a greater gfx overhead though. One that produces smooth 60hz frames, no frame dropping and/or tearing, excellent AA etcetera etcetera.

Originally posted by marcusj0015:

WHY, does EVERYONE say that 720p is the most common resolution?


Because that is the standard native resolution of PS3 and X360 games... or even less.

Case in point. My telly does a great job of upscaling to 1080p. So I just set the output of my console to 720p so it has less strain on it... it makes absolutely no difference.


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4318.4.2011 10:41

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Jemborg
I like to see my games in their best available light. S'why my PC gfx card costs several PS3s LOL.
Indeed. PCs have been way ahead of consoles for quite a while now.....it'll be interesting (with the 1080p TV limit) to see how this will translate in the next gen for consoles.

The next lot (assuming decent amounts of RAM, CPU power & GPU power....and hopefully customer changable HDD space) could well be it, if the cloud takes off properly and as net connection infrastructure gets better and better.

Quote:
Jemborg
But frankly, I enjoy playing them on the lounge 50" plasma. So the line gets drawn at 1080p for them.


Agreed. It is the way to play them, love my big Panny plasma. :D

4418.4.2011 14:42
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Hopefully the Wii 2 will bring back Diddy Kong racing. I realize that "Rare" Holds the rights ;)

Actually Nintendo holds the rights to all characters in the DK Universe.

4518.4.2011 14:48

I heard that was why the first Wii hasn't had Diddy kong Racing :S




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4618.4.2011 14:52

Originally posted by omegaman7:
I heard that was why the first Wii hasn't had Diddy kong Racing :S
I cannot see Nintendo giving up the rights to their own characters. They have, however, used 3rd party developers to make some of their games just like Team Ninja did some development on Metroid: Other M.

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4718.4.2011 15:00

Hmmm, I guess I'll always wonder why they haven't redone it then. Perhaps they've been waiting for a reason to do it. Keeping it up their sleeves so to speak. For the next generation console ;)




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4818.4.2011 20:30

Originally posted by omegaman7:
Hmmm, I guess I'll always wonder why they haven't redone it then. Perhaps they've been waiting for a reason to do it. Keeping it up their sleeves so to speak. For the next generation console ;)

Rare did make a remake of it for the DS... I found it to be inferior to the original, but it's a matter of taste.

I believe Rare still owns everything from that game aside from Diddy himself.


4919.4.2011 2:13

Originally posted by Interestx:

Agreed. It is the way to play them, love my big Panny plasma. :D
Hey, mine's a Panny too! I feel sorry for them wot pay more. :)

PS: I use Xpadder on games that don't have a controller, you should see my profile for Bioshock2. Fast but not for the faint hearted. :P


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