Sony lists free game compensation available to U.S. PSN gamers

i think ill cash in on both psp and ps3

At least they have LittleBigPlanet, even though most people have that already.

Good thing I didn't buy Little Big Planet

If I hadn't jailbroken my PS3 (or had a second one) I'd definitely grab LittleBigPlanet and inFAMOUS (since it's free).

To be fair, that is a decent line-up of games. Sony are slowly getting back in my good books :)

My god this list was deliberate and you people applause it. They picked their top selling line up of what may as well be launch titles for PS3. Those that liked it enough own it already, those that beat it either rented it or sold it. They deliberately chose this not as to say thank you to their customers but to save as much on their bottom line as they can because they know damn well the lawsuits across all nations are going to screw them over.

To top it off their security over PSN and Sony's servers has not improved an inch. So all these users that fall into *Sony being nice* tactic is STILL getting screwed over if they simply go back to trusting Sony with their information. This is the lamest apology since Apple got forced into providing free cases for the iphone 4.

What would have been a better example of an apology is to let the user select 2 greatest hits games OR 1 recent released game of their choosing. Now that would be a great start to an apology. And skip the crap that PSN users don't deserve an apology, they do even if users don't understand why, Sony understands why.

Last I give it two weeks tops after the store gets back online before Sony gets hacked again to prove a point, that their security FAILS. This isn't being negative, this is just stating they been hit attack after attack in the last 3 weeks, and this is far from over. They still don't even have a clue who's behind it, or what motivates the attack. So enjoy PSN while you can, but soon even these piss ant old titles won't be enough to satisfy the rage of another month downtime that likely will be coming soon.

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To top it off their security over PSN and Sony's servers has not improved an inch. So all these users that fall into *Sony being nice* tactic is STILL getting screwed over if they simply go back to trusting Sony with their information. This is the lamest apology since Apple got forced into providing free cases for the iphone 4.

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I'm not getting screwed; I don't own a PS3 :P

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To top it off their security over PSN and Sony's servers has not improved an inch. So all these users that fall into *Sony being nice* tactic is STILL getting screwed over if they simply go back to trusting Sony with their information. This is the lamest apology since Apple got forced into providing free cases for the iphone 4.

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What proof do you have to say that the security hasn't improved? Fair enough if it isn't top notch but I'm more than certain that Sony have restarted the PSN servers with better security. It only makes sense.

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Last I give it two weeks tops after the store gets back online before Sony gets hacked again to prove a point, that their security FAILS. This isn't being negative, this is just stating they been hit attack after attack in the last 3 weeks, and this is far from over. They still don't even have a clue who's behind it, or what motivates the attack. So enjoy PSN while you can, but soon even these piss ant old titles won't be enough to satisfy the rage of another month downtime that likely will be coming soon.

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Of course, they COULD be hacked again but why do you continue to say that their security now fails? Yes, their security was obviously crap before since it was hacked, but really - who's to say that Sony hasn't improved their security?

Perhaps you're stating your own opinion but by the tone that you've typed your message, it looks like you're insinuating that Sony has bad security and WILL get hacked. Which of course is possible but why are you stating it almost as a fact?

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To top it off their security over PSN and Sony's servers has not improved an inch. So all these users that fall into *Sony being nice* tactic is STILL getting screwed over if they simply go back to trusting Sony with their information. This is the lamest apology since Apple got forced into providing free cases for the iphone 4.

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What proof do you have to say that the security hasn't improved? Fair enough if it isn't top notch but I'm more than certain that Sony have restarted the PSN servers with better security. It only makes sense.

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Last I give it two weeks tops after the store gets back online before Sony gets hacked again to prove a point, that their security FAILS. This isn't being negative, this is just stating they been hit attack after attack in the last 3 weeks, and this is far from over. They still don't even have a clue who's behind it, or what motivates the attack. So enjoy PSN while you can, but soon even these piss ant old titles won't be enough to satisfy the rage of another month downtime that likely will be coming soon.

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Of course, they COULD be hacked again but why do you continue to say that their security now fails? Yes, their security was obviously crap before since it was hacked, but really - who's to say that Sony hasn't improved their security?

Perhaps you're stating your own opinion but by the tone that you've typed your message, it looks like you're insinuating that Sony has bad security and WILL get hacked. Which of course is possible but why are you stating it almost as a fact?

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PS3 owners in the U.S. get to choose 2 of the following 5 games

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I changed my mind. Sony are still twats. What compensation does the rest of the world get? There is a world outside of the US, Sony.

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What proof do you have to say that the security hasn't improved? Fair enough if it isn't top notch but I'm more than certain that Sony have restarted the PSN servers with better security. It only makes sense.

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Google F-Secure opinion on Sony PSN, There's your freaking proof.

F-Secure for those unaware is the world's top IT/Network security firm, they usually do security for military contracts across the world. They stated to the media their security has little to no change. Japan themselves have delayed PSN on their side because security measures are still under where the law demands they be at. When a company like F-Secure states their security has major holes a kid can crack, then it's cause for alarm and caution.

However, just because ignorant consumers don't understand who/what F-Secure is, what defines security integration or understand how out-dated Sony security was, doesn't mean their governments don't understand. Hence why US congress, Canada's Privacy Commission, Japan's government has been pursuing Sony for answers, and effectively taking them to court for damages. IF security wasn't a concern then the scrutiny wouldn't be so high against Sony.

People should learn to stop reading articles off only one source, and start going through multiple if you truly want to understand how serious this breech was, where it stands now, and where it will lead tomorrow.

And this was a double post no error of my own.

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I changed my mind. Sony are still twats. What compensation does the rest of the world get? There is a world outside of the US, Sony.

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I agree that's a fair and good question. As I live in Canada, there has been no reports on other nations receiving credit monitoring at this time. I don't care for games I don't already won, and the free PSN+ is a joke.

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Originally posted by kikzm33z:

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To top it off their security over PSN and Sony's servers has not improved an inch. So all these users that fall into *Sony being nice* tactic is STILL getting screwed over if they simply go back to trusting Sony with their information. This is the lamest apology since Apple got forced into providing free cases for the iphone 4.

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What proof do you have to say that the security hasn't improved? Fair enough if it isn't top notch but I'm more than certain that Sony have restarted the PSN servers with better security. It only makes sense.

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Last I give it two weeks tops after the store gets back online before Sony gets hacked again to prove a point, that their security FAILS. This isn't being negative, this is just stating they been hit attack after attack in the last 3 weeks, and this is far from over. They still don't even have a clue who's behind it, or what motivates the attack. So enjoy PSN while you can, but soon even these piss ant old titles won't be enough to satisfy the rage of another month downtime that likely will be coming soon.

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Of course, they COULD be hacked again but why do you continue to say that their security now fails? Yes, their security was obviously crap before since it was hacked, but really - who's to say that Sony hasn't improved their security?

Perhaps you're stating your own opinion but by the tone that you've typed your message, it looks like you're insinuating that Sony has bad security and WILL get hacked. Which of course is possible but why are you stating it almost as a fact?

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PS3 owners in the U.S. get to choose 2 of the following 5 games

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I changed my mind. Sony are still twats. What compensation does the rest of the world get? There is a world outside of the US, Sony.

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Sony actually offered this program first for the EU. It was only just confirmed to be available for the US with this most current press release.

Originally when SCEA announced the Identity theft promotion there was no mention of a choice of PS3/PSP games Source Here dated April 30th. But the SCEE offering specifically mentioned it was going to offer a choice of PS3/PSP games Source Here dated May 6th.

Now you have been properly informed as to what truly happened. And that us Americans were at a point where we were in the dark not knowing if we would get the same game offerings as the EU.

As for "Google F-Secure" ~ the burden of providing proof for what you said is upon YOU. Not anyone else. If you make a claim you better make sure to show supportive links and information that verifies/backs up what you said. How do we know if what you are talking about isn't outdated (pre-updated PSN servers) or misinformed data going off false information (like how the claim of the PSN servers were not up to date and had no firewalls when they ACTUALLY were!)?

What if you only have the original 40G hard drive. Will two of those titles even fit on it? I think I have 34G available. Anyone know?

Sony have been very generous imo. again hate the guys who caused this hackers.

Thanks for the helpful info, Oner. I am in two minds about Sony. They are trying hard to compensate their customers and that is great (although I do question their motives for doing so, read on), but on the other hand, Sony should have been better protected than they were. A big factor that changes my disposition is the way they treated Geohot. Whether he was in the right or wrong is irrelavant. Sony still treated him unfairly IMO. Right now I am angry at Sony and I don't see this 'compensation scheme' as a way of compensating customers, but as a way of securing more money from their coffers in the future. In my eyes, Sony truly are the thugs of the electronics world at the moment.

ok Mysttic, we hear you, you wanted what a new release like Portal2 or something ... look in this day and age your lucky they are even offering something more then "shit happens", "and its not our fault"line from sony look I would love it if they just gave us the feeling that they cared but since we all know what they care about is the oh mighty dollar its not likely to happen .. so get over it before you have a stroke or something look its like they messed up and you want something free... wow how gready I just want to play online and kill a few hours when the days been just a little to much..look they also are covering the id theift from lose of info of all those affected thats gotta cost the bottom line a bunch.. and a couple of games to boot hey thats kewl ... more then I thought they would do.. so sit back and kill something or drive real fast or what ever floats your boat but remmber it was you who entered all you data into an online connection in the first place and your mad at them because they didn't stop some hacker(s) from getting at it .. well let me the first to say"welcome to the modern age of computers" where if you post it it will be out there for everyone to see....

And let me be the first to say I not the only one mad, so don't act like I am. And no I don't give a rats edited about Portal 2 or the free games, I believe I said that already; however if you going to state something like we offering free games, at least make it something that people haven't already paid for. That was Sony's onus to offer free games, not the public's demand; so why go stingy when your business is hanging on a thread? The majority of PSN users were expecting credit, not Sony chosen titles. I too am not alone on this, so stop making it look like I am the bad guy.

I've said it more than once, governments, agencies, lawfirms and so forth all state sony is to take some of the responsibility. A breech of this magnitude has never happened before because gee, let me think... other companies have better security... Yes it happens, but not on a grand scale of nearly ALL information taken. But then here at AD, people are ignorant.

The onus doesn't fall on me to teach you how to read the news daily, I have google/news as my home page and read up every day. You want proof on F-Secure, fine, don't be an edited about it here it is: There are more than one source link too to find if you know how, but RIGHT, people are lazy, it's not about the ONUS falling on me, its about edited like you that want everyone to do everything for you.

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/257576,expert-sony-yet-to-fully-secure-its-networks.aspx

Read it, that's all you have to do. Mikko is the head of F-Secure btw. You all may not like it, but don't bitch at me cause Sony has flawed Security still and i just being nice enough to point out as all you gamers remain in fantasy land you are safe on PSN.

Last thing, since I forgot you won't even use a search engine cause you are inept.

http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&q=F-Secure+opinion+on+PSN&pdl=3000&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa=N&tab=wn&fp=bb88e01cb53fad21

Further results not just about F-Secure's opinion, but also PCMag.com and more reputable tech source sites.

Good luck!

and where would i get those games at? i mean its great but its could be better.... my ps store still not letting me in anyone else having the same problem?

Originally posted by Mysttic:

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And let me be the first to say I not the only one mad, so don't act like I am. And no I don't give a rats edited about Portal 2 or the free games, I believe I said that already; however if you going to state something like we offering free games, at least make it something that people haven't already paid for. That was Sony's onus to offer free games, not the public's demand; so why go stingy when your business is hanging on a thread? The majority of PSN users were expecting credit, not Sony chosen titles. I too am not alone on this, so stop making it look like I am the bad guy.

I've said it more than once, governments, agencies, lawfirms and so forth all state sony is to take some of the responsibility. A breech of this magnitude has never happened before because gee, let me think... other companies have better security... Yes it happens, but not on a grand scale of nearly ALL information taken. But then here at AD, people are ignorant.

The onus doesn't fall on me to teach you how to read the news daily, I have google/news as my home page and read up every day. You want proof on F-Secure, fine, don't be an edited about it here it is: There are more than one source link too to find if you know how, but RIGHT, people are lazy, it's not about the ONUS falling on me, its about edited like you that want everyone to do everything for you.

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/257576,expert-sony-yet-to-fully-secure-its-networks.aspx

Read it, that's all you have to do. Mikko is the head of F-Secure btw. You all may not like it, but don't bitch at me cause Sony has flawed Security still and i just being nice enough to point out as all you gamers remain in fantasy land you are safe on PSN.

Last thing, since I forgot you won't even use a search engine cause you are inept.

http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&q=F-Secure+opinion+on+PSN&pdl=3000&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa=N&tab=wn&fp=bb88e01cb53fad21

Further results not just about F-Secure's opinion, but also PCMag.com and more reputable tech source sites.

Good luck!

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YOU providing a source for what YOU claim sets the onus on YOU and no one else.

I personally remember coming across you saying the exact same thing recently, and when I did try to source it I only came up with this ~ F-Secure News for 2011 which is from directly on their website and absolutely nowhere will you find ANYTHING about what you just linked to and claimed.

Thus is why the onus IS on you when you make claims that need sourcing and supportive proof. I think my example is perfectly clear in this exact situation as to why it is YOUR responsibility to back up what you claim. Everyone should, you are not above that and neither am I. Additionally your 2nd google link was a search for "F-Secure opinion on PSN" that's quite an odd & exact search term for everyone in the world to guess to search for. Even inputting a simpler more common search term of "F-Secure PSN" does not come up with the specific source/information you are saying. Which simply confirms/shows that all of this would/could have been avoided if YOU simply provided the source for what YOU claimed to begin with.

Now after reading your link it is quite good information to know but I found a couple of comments in there of which you say absolutely nothing about and failed to mention at all one bit ~

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three of five flaws this journalist pointed out to the company on Thursday were fixed later in the day.

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It was not immediately clear if the identified security gaps allowed for access to active or defunct systems.

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He found no evidence of breaches beyond the two Sony has disclosed.

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That sure doesn't sound like Sony isn't taking this seriously to me. Look I don't think anyone here is saying Sony is without culpability or responsibility here (I know I sure as hell haven't said that). But to toss out blatant insults even when in reality you are just trying to offer more information is inexcusable (of which you should be given at least 2 days off for that infraction). Now, it would be greatly appreciated if you (and others) could curb the disrespectful insults so as to be able to have proper adult conversations without violating aD's forum rules with childish unnecessary remarks. Understood?

I hope my point has been made clear enough.

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i think ill cash in on both psp and ps3

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I'm with you, but I'll be using whatever these games are worth to get something that I really want at game stop!

These games are not free, for the UK read the below link:

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Point 6 at the bottom:

* Access to the free games and exclusive features finishes at the end of the 30-day subscription period. Anything you buy with exclusive discounts, dynamic themes and premium avatars are yours to keep forever.

So basically it is only costing them the 30 day trial, because if you want to keep playing them you have to continue the premium service!!!

This is pathetic, these aren't free games.

Originally posted by Mothership:

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These games are not free, for the UK read the below link:

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Point 6 at the bottom:

* Access to the free games and exclusive features finishes at the end of the 30-day subscription period. Anything you buy with exclusive discounts, dynamic themes and premium avatars are yours to keep forever.

So basically it is only costing them the 30 day trial, because if you want to keep playing them you have to continue the premium service!!!

This is pathetic, these aren't free games.

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I'm pretty sure that's for free downloads of premium content through PS+. Hence it says 30 day subscription, in reference to them giving PS+ away for 30 days. The actual games on the list are yours to keep forever.

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These games are not free, for the UK read the below link:

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Point 6 at the bottom:

* Access to the free games and exclusive features finishes at the end of the 30-day subscription period. Anything you buy with exclusive discounts, dynamic themes and premium avatars are yours to keep forever.

So basically it is only costing them the 30 day trial, because if you want to keep playing them you have to continue the premium service!!!

This is pathetic, these aren't free games.

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They are free and yours to keep...you just only have 30 days to download them.

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Originally posted by Mothership:

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These games are not free, for the UK read the below link:

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Point 6 at the bottom:

* Access to the free games and exclusive features finishes at the end of the 30-day subscription period. Anything you buy with exclusive discounts, dynamic themes and premium avatars are yours to keep forever.

So basically it is only costing them the 30 day trial, because if you want to keep playing them you have to continue the premium service!!!

This is pathetic, these aren't free games.

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I'm pretty sure that's for free downloads of premium content through PS+. Hence it says 30 day subscription, in reference to them giving PS+ away for 30 days. The actual games on the list are yours to keep forever.

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Originally posted by Mothership:

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These games are not free, for the UK read the below link:

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Point 6 at the bottom:

* Access to the free games and exclusive features finishes at the end of the 30-day subscription period. Anything you buy with exclusive discounts, dynamic themes and premium avatars are yours to keep forever.

So basically it is only costing them the 30 day trial, because if you want to keep playing them you have to continue the premium service!!!

This is pathetic, these aren't free games.

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They are free and yours to keep...you just only have 30 days to download them.

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Exactly. Both correct. There is a 30 day download period for you to access the 4 of 9 free PS3/PSP games that you will keep and use without any additional fees. The PS+ access does come with a separate stipulation for itself that requires a subscription fee IF you want to continue the service after 30 days. But some items will still be yours to keep forever (wallpapers, avatars, themes, discounted purchases etc.) if you do not wish to keep PS+. If you quote a little bit more than just "point 6" it explains it much better ~

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All existing PSN registrants have 30 days from when the welcome back programme goes live to redeem their content <-- Welcome Back Program includes the PS3/PSP 4 of 9 games with 30 days access just to get them

Access to the 30 days free PS Plus subscription is only available for those countries where PS Plus is offered <-- Separate stipulation

You will have access to the PS Plus content planned for May for 30 days <-- PS+ 30 days confirmation

Access to the free games and exclusive features finishes at the end of the 30-day subscription period. Anything you buy with exclusive discounts, dynamic themes and premium avatars are yours to keep forever <-- Your "point 6" refers to the free PS+ content subscription as the "Welcome Back Program" is not a subscription

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The only issue I see is that it states for the month of May but we are more than half way done with this month so I believe it would be for Junes content (possibly/probably) when launched.

Security is better eh, refer to latest PSN news listed on AD... Yea feel real secure with PSN now...

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Security is better eh, refer to latest PSN news listed on AD... Yea feel real secure with PSN now...

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Have you actually read what it was? Nothing more than a phishing scam. Not a "hack". There is a BIG difference. Plus you are off topic again.

okay so I'm a little unclear about the possible redemption process is it going to be 2 games for every console owner or 2 games for every username on the machine? logistically every console owner regardless of how many names (max i think is seven to being with) are on the console but right now they're looking to kiss butt right now... if i hadn't rooted/jailbroken/hacked my psp i'd love to own little big planet... besides is psn even up? how can you download the said free games if psn isn't up yet?

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okay so I'm a little unclear about the possible redemption process is it going to be 2 games for every console owner or 2 games for every username on the machine? logistically every console owner regardless of how many names (max i think is seven to being with) are on the console but right now they're looking to kiss butt right now... if i hadn't rooted/jailbroken/hacked my psp i'd love to own little big planet... besides is psn even up? how can you download the said free games if psn isn't up yet?

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PSN is up, the Playstation Store AFAIK isn't.

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okay so I'm a little unclear about the possible redemption process is it going to be 2 games for every console owner or 2 games for every username on the machine? logistically every console owner regardless of how many names (max i think is seven to being with) are on the console but right now they're looking to kiss butt right now... if i hadn't rooted/jailbroken/hacked my psp i'd love to own little big planet... besides is psn even up? how can you download the said free games if psn isn't up yet?

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PSN is up, the Playstation Store AFAIK isn't.

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Correct. Reportedly it is to come back this Tuesday.

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My god this list was deliberate and you people applause it. They picked their top selling line up of what may as well be launch titles for PS3. Those that liked it enough own it already, those that beat it either rented it or sold it. They deliberately chose this not as to say thank you to their customers but to save as much on their bottom line as they can because they know damn well the lawsuits across all nations are going to screw them over.

To top it off their security over PSN and Sony's servers has not improved an inch. So all these users that fall into *Sony being nice* tactic is STILL getting screwed over if they simply go back to trusting Sony with their information. This is the lamest apology since Apple got forced into providing free cases for the iphone 4.

What would have been a better example of an apology is to let the user select 2 greatest hits games OR 1 recent released game of their choosing. Now that would be a great start to an apology. And skip the crap that PSN users don't deserve an apology, they do even if users don't understand why, Sony understands why.

Last I give it two weeks tops after the store gets back online before Sony gets hacked again to prove a point, that their security FAILS. This isn't being negative, this is just stating they been hit attack after attack in the last 3 weeks, and this is far from over. They still don't even have a clue who's behind it, or what motivates the attack. So enjoy PSN while you can, but soon even these piss ant old titles won't be enough to satisfy the rage of another month downtime that likely will be coming soon.

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OK, if Sony offers any games other than those made by Sony, they'll be getting lawsuits from all of the companies that they offered the game for free, face it no company wants to give out their game for free, and this is not their top selling line, this is specifically Sony's top selling games, and its a good line. And to say Sony didn't change their security at all is just pathetic. What else would they be doing for the one month it was shut off? If you don't know how networking works I suggest you don't even try to touch that topic, as I can't say too much about it myself. All I have to say is Sony handled this situation properly and I bet Microsoft wouldn't even come 1% close to how Sony handled this if this were to happen to the XBL.