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Pelosi, Issa say FU to SOPA anti-piracy proposal

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 17 Nov 2011 17:42 User comments (15)

Pelosi, Issa say FU to SOPA anti-piracy proposal Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic House Leader, has said today that she does not support SOPA, the proposed anti-piracy bill that would lead to Internet censorship in the U.S.
Pelosi tweeted: "Need to find a better solution than #SOPA #DontBreakTheInternet." The quote was in response to being asked "Where do you stand on internet censoring and #SOPA?"

On the other side of the political spectrum, California Republican Darrell Issa has said the act has no chance of passing (via the Wrap):

Congress is realizing there are so many unintended consequences that they can't just use Google as a piata and bash on it here. There is a very broad coalition from far left to far right who realize this will hurt innovation, something we can't afford to do. And there are other ways to accomplish what they say is their goal.


Issa would go on to call the proposal "dangerous" in its current form.

SOPA has seen strong opposition from major tech firms like Google, Facebook, eBay, Yahoo, AOL and more as well as a huge uprising from citizens and heavily trafficked sites like Reddit. The bill is backed in force by the MPAA, RIAA and other content providers.

For more information on SOPA, check here: The 2011 Stop Online Piracy Act

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15 user comments

117.11.2011 19:14

O-o Nancy Pelosi is against this bill??? On this issue just like Joe Biden,she has respect from me..thank god SMART PEOPLE IN CONGRESS!

217.11.2011 22:53

Amazing, isn't it? A card-carrying Nazi is against the bill; that is the kind of crazy overwhelming force that the internet has battered them with. I guarantee she isn't getting s**t in email right now because her boxes are all overloaded with the 700,000+ protest emails she got in the first 36 hours or so!



318.11.2011 6:03

KB.... :(
Pelosi is far from a Nazi.

I bet you think Regan was a great American and his face should be added to Mt. Rushmore.

You go Nancy!

Jeff

418.11.2011 12:52

Finally Pelosi does something right!

518.11.2011 16:58

@:Killerbug
A little rough on the lady, aren't you God??? And you didn't even wait for judgement day! A short breath and ADHDS medications can stop overly outrageous comments. Try it! You will like!

618.11.2011 21:06
llongtheD
Inactive

Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
KB.... :(
Pelosi is far from a Nazi.

I bet you think Regan was a great American and his face should be added to Mt. Rushmore.

You go Nancy!

Jeff
Your a Pelosi supporter, LOL. She says one thing publicly then turns around and does another. Not unlike most of the bought and paid for politicians republican or democrat. None of our current crop of politicians deserve to be on Mt. Rushmore, none of them believe in the constitution, or at least they conduct themselves like they don't.
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If your fish seems sick, put it back in the water.

718.11.2011 23:21

Quote:
Pelosi tweeted: "Need to find a better solution than #SOPA

Here's the real problem. A solution for what? Americans (along with people from many other countries) are already spending all the money on entertainment they can afford. The reason record label profits are down is a new model where people, by and large, don't buy albums because they can get individual songs by themselves. The reason DVD sales have been plummeting is because the boom was a result of the new format and unprecedented availability of titles.

In addition, there is more competition for consumer dollars than ever before. When CD sales were at their peak, they had significantly less competition. Gaming was significantly less mainstream. Broadband Internet was effectively non-existent in the consumer world. Mobile phones were a luxury and the age of smartphones and mobile Internet had not yet come.

It's not that people are spending less. They're simply distributing that spending differently. If there's something that needs fixing, it's the business approach of entertainment industry executives who have gotten fat and lazy relying on the limitations of consumer technology coupled with government granted monopolies. The competition has knocked them down and taken their lunch money. They can either cry about it or find a way to defend themselves by selling more stuff.

Rich Fiscus
@Vurbal on Twitter
AfterDawn Staff Writer

818.11.2011 23:25

Originally posted by drhanaba:
@:Killerbug
A little rough on the lady, aren't you God??? And you didn't even wait for judgement day! A short breath and ADHDS medications can stop overly outrageous comments. Try it! You will like!
This woman does Orwellian "public service" announcements where she tells people to spy on eachother and report suspicious activities like paying with cash and having political opinions...she is as bad as they come. If anything, calling her a Nazi doesn't go far enough.


919.11.2011 1:08

At least it isn't another one of her "we have to pass it before you can read it" moments.

And yeah, nazi isn't harsh enough.

1019.11.2011 20:23
llongtheD
Inactive

Originally posted by vurbal:
Quote:
Pelosi tweeted: "Need to find a better solution than #SOPA

Here's the real problem. A solution for what? Americans (along with people from many other countries) are already spending all the money on entertainment they can afford. The reason record label profits are down is a new model where people, by and large, don't buy albums because they can get individual songs by themselves. The reason DVD sales have been plummeting is because the boom was a result of the new format and unprecedented availability of titles.

In addition, there is more competition for consumer dollars than ever before. When CD sales were at their peak, they had significantly less competition. Gaming was significantly less mainstream. Broadband Internet was effectively non-existent in the consumer world. Mobile phones were a luxury and the age of smartphones and mobile Internet had not yet come.

It's not that people are spending less. They're simply distributing that spending differently. If there's something that needs fixing, it's the business approach of entertainment industry executives who have gotten fat and lazy relying on the limitations of consumer technology coupled with government granted monopolies. The competition has knocked them down and taken their lunch money. They can either cry about it or find a way to defend themselves by selling more stuff.
That's part of the problem. The other part is that these powerful entertainment lobbies are able to draft legislation in secret, and get bills introduced through their corrupt friends. Something as important as this and we have no say, other than protest letters?
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1119.11.2011 20:32

"Your a Pelosi supporter, LOL. She says one thing publicly then turns around and does another. Not unlike most of the bought and paid for politicians republican or democrat. None of our current crop of politicians deserve to be on Mt. Rushmore, none of them believe in the constitution, or at least they conduct themselves like they don't."

Pelosi? Hell no, I'm an Indie. I no longer live in CA.
What has your congress person done for you lately?

Of course this bill will be molded until Congress finds it palatable.

Just do your part to fight the powa!

Jeff


Cars, Guitars & Radiation.

1219.11.2011 22:44

Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
"Your a Pelosi supporter, LOL. She says one thing publicly then turns around and does another. Not unlike most of the bought and paid for politicians republican or democrat. None of our current crop of politicians deserve to be on Mt. Rushmore, none of them believe in the constitution, or at least they conduct themselves like they don't."

Pelosi? Hell no, I'm an Indie. I no longer live in CA.
What has your congress person done for you lately?

Of course this bill will be molded until Congress finds it palatable.

Just do your part to fight the powa!

Jeff

There are a few people in congress that have voted the correct way...they lost to the vast majority, but they did vote the right way...


1319.11.2011 23:25

This is true KB but Pelosi is the senior Congress woman for the minority since the pubs hold the majority.

I have really never agreed a lot with Pelosi's methods and means.
In this case I have to give her kudos.

We have lost too many of what used to be freedom since 9/11. It was the the perfect opportunity for the feds to do dirty work.

I used to bitch about the UK having cameras everywhere. Now look at are once beloved country.. GPS without warrants and such. Really the list goes on and I see no ending to the madness anytime in the near future.

The younger generation will never know true freedom as it once was. All they will know is what they think is freedom today.

Makes me very sad and pissed off at the same time. Very happy I'm 56. I don't want to be around 50 years from now.

Jeff

1420.11.2011 1:25

Originally posted by llongtheD:
Originally posted by vurbal:
Quote:
Pelosi tweeted: "Need to find a better solution than #SOPA

Here's the real problem. A solution for what? Americans (along with people from many other countries) are already spending all the money on entertainment they can afford. The reason record label profits are down is a new model where people, by and large, don't buy albums because they can get individual songs by themselves. The reason DVD sales have been plummeting is because the boom was a result of the new format and unprecedented availability of titles.

In addition, there is more competition for consumer dollars than ever before. When CD sales were at their peak, they had significantly less competition. Gaming was significantly less mainstream. Broadband Internet was effectively non-existent in the consumer world. Mobile phones were a luxury and the age of smartphones and mobile Internet had not yet come.

It's not that people are spending less. They're simply distributing that spending differently. If there's something that needs fixing, it's the business approach of entertainment industry executives who have gotten fat and lazy relying on the limitations of consumer technology coupled with government granted monopolies. The competition has knocked them down and taken their lunch money. They can either cry about it or find a way to defend themselves by selling more stuff.
That's part of the problem. The other part is that these powerful entertainment lobbies are able to draft legislation in secret, and get bills introduced through their corrupt friends. Something as important as this and we have no say, other than protest letters?
Sure, that's a problem with the system in general. And it's not so much that it's in secret. It's that corporations are allowed to write their own laws, after which they're given jobs in the government enforcing them, and even appointed to the bench to interpret them. Whether it's secret or in the open, it's wrong.

Just look at the Justice Department. It's stacked with lawyers who have performed key work for the DC lawfirm the entertainment industry pays to work out their legal strategy, argue cases before the Supreme Court, and lobby Congress. The same man who argued MGM v Grokster now argues cases on behalf of the DOJ.

Then there's a federal judge by the name of Beryl Howell. Not only did she previously lobby for the RIAA, before that she helped write the DMCA. Now she presides over copyright infringement cases, and has been caught blatantly abusing her position to allow dirty tricks in one of those cases which have been overwhelmingly disallowed by the majority of federal judges.

So yeah, it's a systemic problem.

Rich Fiscus
@Vurbal on Twitter
AfterDawn Staff Writer

1523.11.2011 0:58
llongtheD
Inactive

Originally posted by vurbal:
Originally posted by llongtheD:
Originally posted by vurbal:
Quote:
Pelosi tweeted: "Need to find a better solution than #SOPA

Here's the real problem. A solution for what? Americans (along with people from many other countries) are already spending all the money on entertainment they can afford. The reason record label profits are down is a new model where people, by and large, don't buy albums because they can get individual songs by themselves. The reason DVD sales have been plummeting is because the boom was a result of the new format and unprecedented availability of titles.

In addition, there is more competition for consumer dollars than ever before. When CD sales were at their peak, they had significantly less competition. Gaming was significantly less mainstream. Broadband Internet was effectively non-existent in the consumer world. Mobile phones were a luxury and the age of smartphones and mobile Internet had not yet come.

It's not that people are spending less. They're simply distributing that spending differently. If there's something that needs fixing, it's the business approach of entertainment industry executives who have gotten fat and lazy relying on the limitations of consumer technology coupled with government granted monopolies. The competition has knocked them down and taken their lunch money. They can either cry about it or find a way to defend themselves by selling more stuff.
That's part of the problem. The other part is that these powerful entertainment lobbies are able to draft legislation in secret, and get bills introduced through their corrupt friends. Something as important as this and we have no say, other than protest letters?
Sure, that's a problem with the system in general. And it's not so much that it's in secret. It's that corporations are allowed to write their own laws, after which they're given jobs in the government enforcing them, and even appointed to the bench to interpret them. Whether it's secret or in the open, it's wrong.

Just look at the Justice Department. It's stacked with lawyers who have performed key work for the DC lawfirm the entertainment industry pays to work out their legal strategy, argue cases before the Supreme Court, and lobby Congress. The same man who argued MGM v Grokster now argues cases on behalf of the DOJ.

Then there's a federal judge by the name of Beryl Howell. Not only did she previously lobby for the RIAA, before that she helped write the DMCA. Now she presides over copyright infringement cases, and has been caught blatantly abusing her position to allow dirty tricks in one of those cases which have been overwhelmingly disallowed by the majority of federal judges.

So yeah, it's a systemic problem.
That's what I was getting at, and with no limit on funds that can be spent on "lobbying" it will only get worse. A complete gutting of the political system will have to take place before it gets better... yeah, I know I'm stating the obvious.

For those giving her the thumbs up, her tweet is not her vote.

If your fish seems sick, put it back in the water.

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