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RIAA and Homeland Security the latest organizations accused of illegal downloading

Written by Rich Fiscus (Google+) @ 21 Dec 2011 4:58 User comments (16)

RIAA and Homeland Security the latest organizations accused of illegal downloading More revelations are coming to light about who is illegally downloaded pirated content via the website YouHaveDownloaded, and this time it appears to be RIAA employees.
YouHaveDownloaded.com maintains a database of downloads via BitTorrent and the IP address associated with each one. Since most Internet users have dynamic IP addresses, which may change at any time, it is likely inaccurate in most cases.

However, some IP addresses aren't dynamic. Typically corporations, governments, and other large organizations use static IP addresses which don't change. Assuming the database contains good information, it should be relatively accurate for those using such IP addresses.

Last week TorrentFreak revealed that IP addreses used by several major studios and also French President Nicholas Sarkozy were linked to illegal downloads. Now they have added the RIAA and US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to that list.

This is particularly ironic considering the RIAA has sued countless people for alleged illegal downloading using nothing more than an IP address to identify them. In a statement to CNET, the organization denied TorrentFreak's claim, saying:

We checked the block of IP addresses allocated to RIAA staff to access the Internet and no RIAA employee was responsible for this alleged use of bittorrent.


Notice, however, they didn't say their IP addresses weren't implicated by YouHaveDownloaded, nor did they claim the information in the database was incorrect. They simply claimed RIAA employees had not downloaded anything illegally.

Of course this is a common claim among people accused by the RIAA, who simply claim that an IP address is enough to file a lawsuit. And YouHaveDownloaded is similar to the agencies used by the RIAA in one key respect. Their methodology is secret.

While DHS doesn't sue file sharers, they do have a division which has made a practice of seizing domain names of websites they claim are guilty of criminal copyright infringement for facilitating illegal downloads, often by nothing more than offering embedded streams from third parties.

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16 user comments

121.12.2011 5:58

Loving it!

Jeff

221.12.2011 6:08

Wish Afterdawn would stop putting these news articles up as this site randomly generates info when you put an IP in and doesn't keep any actual records.




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321.12.2011 7:48

Originally posted by ps3lvanub:
Wish Afterdawn would stop putting these news articles up as this site randomly generates info when you put an IP in and doesn't keep any actual records.
As said in the article, there certainly are inaccuracies or false positives in case of dynamic IP addresses. However, according to our tests with static IP addresses the service does seem to come up with legit records.

Matti Vähäkainu
Staff member

421.12.2011 8:44

Ahh how the tides have changed fuckers.


OH YES ... THERE WILL BE BLOOD.

521.12.2011 9:10

I am soooooooooo loving this hypocrisy our Government is pulling,although it's maddening Its also FUNNY AS HELL To see most powerful Organizations who don't need to Pirate....HOW THE TABLES HAVE TURNED AND I'M LOVING EVERY SECOND OF IT!

621.12.2011 12:13

Hypocrisy... that certainly is the word for it. Kind of has a tune of Johann Strauss' "Ode to a Nut Shot" (sounds similar to the Blue Danube Waltz) on heavy rotation, playing in my head.

I suppose these idiots will police their own?


721.12.2011 12:33

Originally posted by ps3lvanub:
Wish Afterdawn would stop putting these news articles up as this site randomly generates info when you put an IP in and doesn't keep any actual records.
This is simply not true; the website showed a few of my downloaded with 100% accuracy, and what I remember downloading.

821.12.2011 14:32

Originally posted by Notcow:
Originally posted by ps3lvanub:
Wish Afterdawn would stop putting these news articles up as this site randomly generates info when you put an IP in and doesn't keep any actual records.
This is simply not true; the website showed a few of my downloaded with 100% accuracy, and what I remember downloading.
I don't know the technical aspects of all this IP stuff, but it shows that I've downloaded things that I've never even heard of.

921.12.2011 14:38

Originally posted by kikzm33z:
Originally posted by Notcow:
Originally posted by ps3lvanub:
Wish Afterdawn would stop putting these news articles up as this site randomly generates info when you put an IP in and doesn't keep any actual records.
This is simply not true; the website showed a few of my downloaded with 100% accuracy, and what I remember downloading.
I don't know the technical aspects of all this IP stuff, but it shows that I've downloaded things that I've never even heard of.
Are you using a unsecured wireless connection?

Jeff

1021.12.2011 18:13

Bout time these maggots got it coming to them.

1121.12.2011 19:52

did you remember to disable DHT in your torrent client? (app). If not, surprised you easy to spot.

As for the article being true or not; there could be hard evidence submitted to the court and the RIAA has enough power to say, "It's not us". But its your location. We seized your computers, the files are there. "It's not us" Okay, the court finds there is not enough evidence to bend the RIAA from their sacred vow, they are dismissed.

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 21 Dec 2011 @ 19:53

1222.12.2011 0:23

A RIAA attorney could come to court, stab the judge, and then place papers that prove he was paid to do it by RIAA on the table, and RIAA would still win the f**king case.



1322.12.2011 8:37

Hopefully, this news will de-legitimize the RIAA and their ilk.

If I were a judge and I heard this, I certainly wouldn't rule in their favor in a P2P suit.


They dug their own grave on this one.....

1422.12.2011 19:24

Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Originally posted by kikzm33z:
Originally posted by Notcow:
Originally posted by ps3lvanub:
Wish Afterdawn would stop putting these news articles up as this site randomly generates info when you put an IP in and doesn't keep any actual records.
This is simply not true; the website showed a few of my downloaded with 100% accuracy, and what I remember downloading.
I don't know the technical aspects of all this IP stuff, but it shows that I've downloaded things that I've never even heard of.
Are you using a unsecured wireless connection?

Jeff
I downloaded with DHT enabled for a bit...and it recorded everything. I did embellish a it with the 100% accuracy, because there are some things on there that I don't remember downloading.

1523.12.2011 2:18
llongtheD
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Originally posted by ivymike:
Hopefully, this news will de-legitimize the RIAA and their ilk.

If I were a judge and I heard this, I certainly wouldn't rule in their favor in a P2P suit.


They dug their own grave on this one.....
Keep dreaming bud. The judges and the government are on the side of the RIAA, and homeland security on this one. Judges are politically appointed, they're just as bad as the lawyers trying the cases.
Our legal system is a joke now.

1623.12.2011 12:14

Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Originally posted by kikzm33z:
Originally posted by Notcow:
Originally posted by ps3lvanub:
Wish Afterdawn would stop putting these news articles up as this site randomly generates info when you put an IP in and doesn't keep any actual records.
This is simply not true; the website showed a few of my downloaded with 100% accuracy, and what I remember downloading.
I don't know the technical aspects of all this IP stuff, but it shows that I've downloaded things that I've never even heard of.
Are you using a unsecured wireless connection?

Jeff
That's right but it wouldn't matter because the connection strength is very weak even when I'm inside my house, never mind outside.

That's besides the point now, because the site now shows I haven't downloaded anything even though it did a few days ago.
May have something to with dynamic IP or whatever but like I said, I'm not familiar with how this all works.

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