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The Pirate Bay says they are like early Hollywood pirates

Written by Rich Fiscus (Google+) @ 23 Jan 2012 17:12 User comments (21)

The Pirate Bay says they are like early Hollywood pirates The Pirate Bay has been cited by the MPAA and RIAA as one of the biggest reasons new anti-piracy laws are needed, along with the recently taken down MegaUpload.
During last week's blackout to protest SOPA and PIPA, they made a protest of their own via a blog post titled, "That pipe of trash that someone smoked." It contains a press release which compares the legal issues surrounding file sharing with the early days of Hollywood.

They point out the reason movie studios first re-located to California from New York was to avoid patent litigation from a patent holding company formed by Thomas Edison. In fact, the company established to control the movie industry via Edison's patents was eventually found guilty of antitrust violations in 1915.

Here is the full text of their press release:

INTERNETS, 18th of January 2012.
PRESS RELEASE, FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE.

Over a century ago Thomas Edison got the patent for a device which would "do for the eye what the phonograph does for
the ear". He called it the Kinetoscope. He was not only amongst the first to record video, he was also the first person
to own the copyright to a motion picture.

Because of Edisons patents for the motion pictures it was close to financially impossible to create motion pictures
in the North american east coast. The movie studios therefor relocated to California, and founded what we today call
Hollywood. The reason was mostly because there was no patent.
There was also no copyright to speak of, so the studios could copy old stories and make movies out of them - like
Fantasia, one of Disneys biggest hits ever.

So, the whole basis of this industry, that today is screaming about losing control over immaterial rights, is that they
circumvented immaterial rights. They copied (or put in their terminology: "stole") other peoples creative works,
without paying for it. They did it in order to make a huge profit. Today, they're all successful and most of the
studios are on the Fortune 500 list of the richest companies in the world. Congratulations - it's all based on being
able to re-use other peoples creative works. And today they hold the rights to what other people create.
If you want to get something released, you have to abide to their rules. The ones they created after circumventing
other peoples rules.

The reason they are always complainting about "pirates" today is simple. We've done what they did. We circumvented the
rules they created and created our own. We crushed their monopoly by giving people something more efficient. We allow
people to have direct communication between eachother, circumventing the profitable middle man, that in some cases take
over 107% of the profits (yes, you pay to work for them).
It's all based on the fact that we're competition.
We've proven that their existance in their current form is no longer needed. We're just better than they are.

And the funny part is that our rules are very similar to the founding ideas of the USA. We fight for freedom of speech.
We see all people as equal. We believe that the public, not the elite, should rule the nation. We believe that laws
should be created to serve the public, not the rich corporations.

The Pirate Bay is truly an international community. The team is spread all over the globe - but we've stayed out of the
USA. We have Swedish roots and a swedish friend said this:
The word SOPA means "trash" in Swedish. The word PIPA means "a pipe" in Swedish. This is of course not a coincidence.
They want to make the internet inte a one way pipe, with them at the top, shoving trash through the pipe down to the
rest of us obedient consumers.
The public opinion on this matter is clear. Ask anyone on the street and you'll learn that noone wants to be fed with
trash. Why the US government want the american people to be fed with trash is beyond our imagination but we hope that
you will stop them, before we all drown.

SOPA can't do anything to stop TPB. Worst case we'll change top level domain from our current .org to one of the
hundreds of other names that we already also use. In countries where TPB is blocked, China and Saudi Arabia springs to
mind, they block hundreds of our domain names. And did it work? Not really.
To fix the "problem of piracy" one should go to the source of the problem. The entertainment industry say they're
creating "culture" but what they really do is stuff like selling overpriced plushy dolls and making 11 year old girls
become anorexic. Either from working in the factories that creates the dolls for basically no salary or by watching
movies and tv shows that make them think that they're fat.

In the great Sid Meiers computer game Civilization you can build Wonders of the world. One of the most powerful ones
is Hollywood. With that you control all culture and media in the world. Rupert Murdoch was happy with MySpace and had
no problems with their own piracy until it failed. Now he's complainting that Google is the biggest source of piracy
in the world - because he's jealous. He wants to retain his mind control over people and clearly you'd get a more
honest view of things on Wikipedia and Google than on Fox News.

Some facts (years, dates) are probably wrong in this press release. The reason is that we can't access this information
when Wikipedia is blacked out. Because of pressure from our failing competitors. We're sorry for that.

THE PIRATE BAY, (K)2012

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21 user comments

123.1.2012 17:56

Leave it to TPB to speak the truth that should be all over the national/world news.

223.1.2012 18:33

and Edison stole his work from Nikola Tesla and that's been proven.. just if anyone is keeping score....

323.1.2012 18:54

They said in the end they couldn't verify information because Wikipedia was blacked out. Are they that pathetic that they can't even read at the bottom of the page it stated to disable the black out effect "TURN OFF JAVA". Wow.. just wow...

I was into their speech too for a moment, a lot of what they claimed and said made sense. But to end on that last paragraph made them sound like a validating argument gone sour. It's pointless therefor to even have this article up, regardless of how passionate their reasoning is.

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423.1.2012 20:36

Certainly a good read and many good points made


logic is an enemy and truth is a menace

523.1.2012 22:07

Nikola Tesla & TPB are both many years ahead of their time.

623.1.2012 22:34

Originally posted by Mysttic:
They said in the end they couldn't verify information because Wikipedia was blacked out. Are they that pathetic that they can't even read at the bottom of the page it stated to disable the black out effect "TURN OFF JAVA". Wow.. just wow...

I was into their speech too for a moment, a lot of what they claimed and said made sense. But to end on that last paragraph made them sound like a validating argument gone sour. It's pointless therefor to even have this article up, regardless of how passionate their reasoning is.
I have to say this even though I'm not trying to start an argument.
You really didn't read that correctly did you? They were making a statement about what the effect that SOPA and PIPA could have on a site like Wikipedia. Not a statement on the state of Wikipedia at that moment.

723.1.2012 23:16

Quote:
Some facts (years, dates) are probably wrong in this press release. The reason is that we can't access this information
when Wikipedia is blacked out. Because of pressure from our failing competitors. We're sorry for that.
I was referring to this paragraph which clearly states that some facts were prolly wrong as they could not access wikipedia during the black out. How is that taken incorrectly out of context?

As I said I agreed with most of what they were stating, but when it comes down to it, if you going to recite American history and they want to bring up facts about even the present including those bills, if you can't access wikipedia as a source because you didn't realize all you had to do was turn java off, then piratebay could have at least took the time to *google* the other sources themselves. Otherwise wait until you can access what you need before you post something you know should be referenced to the source material. That's all I was saying.

824.1.2012 3:27

Originally posted by Mysttic:
Quote:
Some facts (years, dates) are probably wrong in this press release. The reason is that we can't access this information
when Wikipedia is blacked out. Because of pressure from our failing competitors. We're sorry for that.


Really? Can't you see the sarcasm in here? English is not my first language and I can understand clearly what they mean.

924.1.2012 9:34
thealien2000uk
Unverified new user

Here Here!

The thieving entertainment industry does not stop there at movies and music, the game industry is also affected by paying the game writers only 20 pence (100 pence = 1GB pound) per game package sold (average game costs 39.00 GBP) have a look at www.fairplay.com for more details and they dont care who's interlectual work and media they steal from (I have had personal experience of this from Virgin Games)

1024.1.2012 11:51

What can I add to the residual skid mark on the toilet bowl despite the flushes? Other than to say that these idiots (fat cats, self important something for nothings) have nowhere else to run & hide anymore. They can't run to a lawless land, makeup new & slanted rules out of lifeless clay to castrate clueless people who happen into their traps.

Several of older folks know the history because we payed attention, but in order to get the younger folks to listen we have to paint that story of woe with passion; otherwise it will be lost.

Nicola Tesla wasn't a guy who happened to work for Thomas Edison. He was an visionary who refused to be limited by even the human mind. A true comic book character of scientists if you will.

Thomas Edison was nothing more than an Eric Cartman racist who capitalized on everyone else's toil on a given moment, probably because he was picked on as a kid & had his toys taken away. So when he grew up he was just going to reap his revenge on the world. So he worked harder on self promoting the work of others as his own than he did his own. If indeed his inventions were truly his own. And then dare anyone to defy him in the public arena. Damn near Lex Luthor in the flesh.

You see, Passion?

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1124.1.2012 15:07

That is a refreshing story-telling bitchslap to Hollywood and the MPAA.

IN YOUR FACE!

1225.1.2012 14:51
ProgAlgo
Unverified new user

Originally posted by Mysttic:
They said in the end they couldn't verify information because Wikipedia was blacked out. Are they that pathetic that they can't even read at the bottom of the page it stated to disable the black out effect "TURN OFF JAVA". Wow.. just wow...

I was into their speech too for a moment, a lot of what they claimed and said made sense. But to end on that last paragraph made them sound like a validating argument gone sour. It's pointless therefor to even have this article up, regardless of how passionate their reasoning is.
It's just they want to draw public attention to the problem. I don't think this guys don't know about JavaScript.

1327.1.2012 13:42

Originally posted by Mysttic:
Quote:
Some facts (years, dates) are probably wrong in this press release. The reason is that we can't access this information
when Wikipedia is blacked out. Because of pressure from our failing competitors. We're sorry for that.
I was referring to this paragraph which clearly states that some facts were prolly wrong as they could not access wikipedia during the black out. How is that taken incorrectly out of context?

As I said I agreed with most of what they were stating, but when it comes down to it, if you going to recite American history and they want to bring up facts about even the present including those bills, if you can't access wikipedia as a source because you didn't realize all you had to do was turn java off, then piratebay could have at least took the time to *google* the other sources themselves. Otherwise wait until you can access what you need before you post something you know should be referenced to the source material. That's all I was saying.
Really? You don't recognize sarcasm when you read it? Your first comment sounded pompous to me. They were just trying to demonstrate how things would be. Try and get into the spirit of the thing.
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1427.1.2012 13:46

Long live Pirate Bay!!!

1528.1.2012 9:05

Did ANY of you in the US write your senator? You still have time. The bill is starting to teeter. Your complaint might make a difference and you could feel good. You don't even need to be of age to send a nasty-gram. You just need to live in their state in a valid address.

1628.1.2012 14:17

Originally posted by Mez:
Did ANY of you in the US write your senator? You still have time. The bill is starting to teeter. Your complaint might make a difference and you could feel good. You don't even need to be of age to send a nasty-gram. You just need to live in their state in a valid address.
I've written a few times in the past, but as of resent I feel my voice falls on deaf ears. I pretty much feel that I get a form letter response or a naive retort from an intern trying to help that does little more than patronize & infuriate me more.

Not to mention the fact I live in the most corrupt state in the union (like I want to give away my global position anymore than that).

As I hold out hope against hope that the rich elitists have no lands to run off to & make new laws & rules to which they can enslave mankind with; I can't help but reverse that analogy & realize that I have nowhere to run and hide either.

Besides, ACTA has now been shoved down Europe's throat & the rest of us may be sheep cowering in the corner.

1728.1.2012 14:34

Well they only count them. Don't expect them to take your comments to heart. However, if they get enough and they use magnifiers that range from 10 to 100 so your note could count as 100 voters feel the way you do. They take the count seriously enough. If they get voted out, that is the end of their gravy train.

I didn't know there was a most corrupt state, they are all run by crooks.

1828.1.2012 15:23

Originally posted by Mez:
I didn't know there was a most corrupt state, they are all run by crooks.
Oh, trust me... you know how you walk into a house & can tell there's something dead & rotting in there? So you start walking from room to room to see which room the rotting corpse is decaying in?

Use that analogy & then apply it the rest of the US. My state is where one of the corpses happens to be one that's bloated & rolling around. They didn't even bother to bury it or anything.

1928.1.2012 16:26

Any one else read the legal threats page? they are too funny :D


Google it SuDo it

2028.1.2012 17:04

Originally posted by DarkEly:
Any one else read the legal threats page? they are too funny :D
I'll have to admit, I'm drawing a blank on that one. I'm assuming they're/that's off site?

Frankly, if it's too politically charged, I avoid them like the plague. I tend to get "really" nasty & hateful, making a facebook suicide look like spritzing your house plants with tap water.

2128.1.2012 22:39

Originally posted by LordRuss:
Originally posted by DarkEly:
Any one else read the legal threats page? they are too funny :D
I'll have to admit, I'm drawing a blank on that one. I'm assuming they're/that's off site?

Frankly, if it's too politically charged, I avoid them like the plague. I tend to get "really" nasty & hateful, making a facebook suicide look like spritzing your house plants with tap water.
Well they are on the site below the search bar (I go there to get Linux distributions not illegal downwloads). I have to admit they are nice at first but as it gets towards the end the pirate bay representative (I have no idea what his/her user name is) gets more and brutal - like in one email the guy (I think the person who replied was a guy) recommended he visit the xxx section of the site if he was feeling lonely so they definitely speak their minds lol.

Google it SuDo it

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