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British former owner of TVShack to be extradited to U.S.

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 24 Mar 2012 1:10 User comments (30)

British former owner of TVShack to be extradited to U.S. 23-year-old British student Richard O'Dwyer will be extradited to the U.S. to face multiple copyright infringement charges, despite never having been to the country.
The former owner and creator of TVShack's plight will set an unfortunate precedence in the UK, as others in the future can likely face similar charges. O'Dwyer, according to UK law, is completely innocent, but he will likely not be so lucky in the U.S.

TVShack was a streaming link aggregator site that hosted no content itself but linked to third-party sites, (like Megavideo), where users could stream unauthorized TV and movies for free.

Additionally, the servers were based in Sweden but the domain was under the jurisdiction of the United States. U.S. authorities can seize domains registered outside of the country because most, if not all registrars are based in the U.S.

The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has accused O'Dwyer of making $230,000 in advertising revenue from the site.

Despite never being to the U.S., the student now faces 5 years in an American prison.

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124.3.2012 1:22

This bs makes me ashamed to be an American citizen....WTF is wrong with these asshole politicians?!?!

224.3.2012 3:31

the uk government are a f:@king disgrace

324.3.2012 4:08

just another instance where the bend over and take it up the .......

424.3.2012 5:09

nothing more than abuse of power, screw this administration nothing more than a bunch of no good communists, and while we are at it, screw those illiberal liberals in hollywood, they couldn't give a *expletive* less if we payed them. All they care for is to spread the power they yield and control the hearts and minds of every citizen. Forget actually practicing morals in business reminds me of that greedy banker in the movie it's a wonderful life, unfortunately power is at state and they push the agenda and stomp on anyone who takes away .000001% of the slice of pie they wanted.


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524.3.2012 9:10

The Nazi's are on the rise here in the U.S.

624.3.2012 9:54

I'd like to see the Brits find laws on their books that have been broken by our politicians, and have the offenders extradited to Britain for just punishment.

Turnabout is fair play.


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824.3.2012 11:36

Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Be reminded guys, the British had to sign off on this...
Wait, so how can the UK be fine about this, but the guy is getting reamed in the ass by the U.S. cause of a domain site that the government owns? WTF? If the U.S. is that paranoid over a damn web site, then the end of the world needs to come sooner than later.


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924.3.2012 15:02

Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Be reminded guys, the British had to sign off on this...
And they should be ashamed of themselves as well.

1024.3.2012 22:39

So let me get this straight, if you kill 17 men, woman and children, you don't get tried in the country that you murdered the people in, but get to go home. But if you have a website, and you link to other sites that link to videos, VIDEOS, you get extradited to a foreign country? Tall about global domination. Why do we even sovereign nations if they aren't recognized by the US?


I'll stick my foot up your ass.

1125.3.2012 2:41
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Originally posted by Red_Forman:
So let me get this straight, if you kill 17 men, woman and children, you don't get tried in the country that you murdered the people in, but get to go home. But if you have a website, and you link to other sites that link to videos, VIDEOS, you get extradited to a foreign country? Tall about global domination. Why do we even sovereign nations if they aren't recognized by the US?
welcome to the age of USA government global dictatorship , this is our new world where killing people in the third world needs no justice nor punishment just go home you, its ok , BUT how dare you open a web site that links to links to videos , you well be brought to justice you evil criminal , this is the new age terrorism by the government but on a global level,
looking forward to the end of the world...

1225.3.2012 4:45

Whether it's right or wrong to extradite him, as an American citizen I for one am super-stoked about the millions of taxpayer dollars the entire process of transporting, holding, trying, and potentially incarcerating him is going to cost. I mean, this is clearly an extremely necessary use of our institutional resources (just like all those non-violent drug offenders).

1325.3.2012 7:59

Theresa May accused of 'double standards' over Duchess of York extradition to Turkey

Home secretary Theresa May has been accused of "double standards" for refusing to extradite the Duchess of York to Turkey.
It's one rule for the rich/establishment and another for us.
Google this and see the hypocrisy of British justice!

1430.3.2012 19:48

5yrs in prison for a trivial act. Wow...

Yes, trivial!

And yet even more heinous crimes are committed, for less jail/prison time. This is very wrong. I fear for the future of our planet :(




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1531.3.2012 2:31

Originally posted by ivymike:
This bs makes me ashamed to be an American citizen....WTF is wrong with these asshole politicians?!?!
My guess? They're just advocating for their real masters, the corporations. Since corporations are people too, and are allowed to contribute to political campaigns, and hire lobbyists to push their agenda. I'm sure if average citizens could contribute as much money to political campaigns, and hire their own lobbyists to push their agendas, that the politicians would at least pretend to listen to them. But until then, it goes to the highest bidder...er... contributor.

1631.3.2012 8:22

It seems like the American's want to take on the world these days - The Romans had the same idea and look what happened to them.

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171.4.2012 12:24

Are all of you really that clueless?

Governments and law enforcement of different countries have been working together to crack down on criminals for quite awhile.

So this news that one government is handing over a CRIMINAL to another government is surprising to you?

181.4.2012 13:26

not at all surprising.like others here have said appalling and disgusting.also not that its not just governments and law enforcement that are involved in this crap.its also special interest groups.the law is supposed to be above that.so the next time you think we are puling idiots think again.most of these responses to this story are not only informed but they reflect peoples thought out and informed responses.by the way,it hasnt yet been established that he is indeed a criminal.

191.4.2012 13:38

Originally posted by elbald90:
the uk government are a f:@king disgrace
Amen to that.

Just do it.

201.4.2012 13:56

Originally posted by bhetrick:
Are all of you really that clueless?

Governments and law enforcement of different countries have been working together to crack down on criminals for quite awhile.

So this news that one government is handing over a CRIMINAL to another government is surprising to you?
they are not cracking down on a common criminal they are taking a british citizen who has not broken uk law to another country and imprisoning him for running an internet website which the american government didnt like.

heres a thought for all you americans out there.how would you feel if an american citizen got charged for possesion of a small amount of drugs for personal consumption and they extradited them to bali and executed them.bet you'd all be going nuts.
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 01 Apr 2012 @ 14:00

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211.4.2012 15:01

Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
Originally posted by bhetrick:
Are all of you really that clueless?

Governments and law enforcement of different countries have been working together to crack down on criminals for quite awhile.

So this news that one government is handing over a CRIMINAL to another government is surprising to you?
they are not cracking down on a common criminal they are taking a british citizen who has not broken uk law to another country and imprisoning him for running an internet website which the american government didnt like.

heres a thought for all you americans out there.how would you feel if an american citizen got charged for possesion of a small amount of drugs for personal consumption and they extradited them to bali and executed them.bet you'd all be going nuts.
Again, lets reiterate that the British government is assisting with this. So it's not a matter of the American government doing this or doing that. It's a matter of governments working together. And this is nothing new.

Also, how does your example of "a small amount of drugs for personal consumption" compare to someone charged with making a quarter-of-a-million dollars off of illegal activities?

222.4.2012 1:36

Originally posted by bhetrick:
Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
Originally posted by bhetrick:
Are all of you really that clueless?

Governments and law enforcement of different countries have been working together to crack down on criminals for quite awhile.

So this news that one government is handing over a CRIMINAL to another government is surprising to you?
they are not cracking down on a common criminal they are taking a british citizen who has not broken uk law to another country and imprisoning him for running an internet website which the american government didnt like.

heres a thought for all you americans out there.how would you feel if an american citizen got charged for possesion of a small amount of drugs for personal consumption and they extradited them to bali and executed them.bet you'd all be going nuts.
Again, lets reiterate that the British government is assisting with this. So it's not a matter of the American government doing this or doing that. It's a matter of governments working together. And this is nothing new.

Also, how does your example of "a small amount of drugs for personal consumption" compare to someone charged with making a quarter-of-a-million dollars off of illegal activities?
first off i will start by quoting something from the original article
Quote:
according to UK law, is completely innocent

he didnt actually post copyrighted material.he linked to websites that offered streaming service.if someone says put a link to my website on your page and i will pay you, you are allowed to.

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232.4.2012 2:34

Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
Originally posted by bhetrick:
Are all of you really that clueless?

Governments and law enforcement of different countries have been working together to crack down on criminals for quite awhile.

So this news that one government is handing over a CRIMINAL to another government is surprising to you?
they are not cracking down on a common criminal they are taking a british citizen who has not broken uk law to another country and imprisoning him for running an internet website which the american government didnt like.

heres a thought for all you americans out there.how would you feel if an american citizen got charged for possesion of a small amount of drugs for personal consumption and they extradited them to bali and executed them.bet you'd all be going nuts.
It is amazing how people here like to compare apples to oranges

242.4.2012 4:18

the point i was trying to make is america extradites people from overseas who arnt american and never lived in america and trys to imprison them for breaking american law.if another country did that to an american they'd be going nuts.


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253.4.2012 10:48

Originally posted by bhetrick:
Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
Originally posted by bhetrick:
Are all of you really that clueless?

Governments and law enforcement of different countries have been working together to crack down on criminals for quite awhile.

So this news that one government is handing over a CRIMINAL to another government is surprising to you?
they are not cracking down on a common criminal they are taking a british citizen who has not broken uk law to another country and imprisoning him for running an internet website which the american government didnt like.

heres a thought for all you americans out there.how would you feel if an american citizen got charged for possesion of a small amount of drugs for personal consumption and they extradited them to bali and executed them.bet you'd all be going nuts.
Again, lets reiterate that the British government is assisting with this. So it's not a matter of the American government doing this or doing that. It's a matter of governments working together. And this is nothing new.

Also, how does your example of "a small amount of drugs for personal consumption" compare to someone charged with making a quarter-of-a-million dollars off of illegal activities?
Call me when you extradite Sgt. Robert Bales for mass murder, you hypocritical American megalomaniac.

I'll stick my foot up your ass.

264.4.2012 1:42

Originally posted by Red_Forman:
Originally posted by bhetrick:
Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
Originally posted by bhetrick:
Are all of you really that clueless?

Governments and law enforcement of different countries have been working together to crack down on criminals for quite awhile.

So this news that one government is handing over a CRIMINAL to another government is surprising to you?
they are not cracking down on a common criminal they are taking a british citizen who has not broken uk law to another country and imprisoning him for running an internet website which the american government didnt like.

heres a thought for all you americans out there.how would you feel if an american citizen got charged for possesion of a small amount of drugs for personal consumption and they extradited them to bali and executed them.bet you'd all be going nuts.
Again, lets reiterate that the British government is assisting with this. So it's not a matter of the American government doing this or doing that. It's a matter of governments working together. And this is nothing new.

Also, how does your example of "a small amount of drugs for personal consumption" compare to someone charged with making a quarter-of-a-million dollars off of illegal activities?
Call me when you extradite Sgt. Robert Bales for mass murder, you hypocritical American megalomaniac.
Sgt. Robert Bales is in jail.

274.4.2012 2:35

Originally posted by cazer:
Originally posted by Red_Forman:
Originally posted by bhetrick:
Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
Originally posted by bhetrick:
Are all of you really that clueless?

Governments and law enforcement of different countries have been working together to crack down on criminals for quite awhile.

So this news that one government is handing over a CRIMINAL to another government is surprising to you?
they are not cracking down on a common criminal they are taking a british citizen who has not broken uk law to another country and imprisoning him for running an internet website which the american government didnt like.

heres a thought for all you americans out there.how would you feel if an american citizen got charged for possesion of a small amount of drugs for personal consumption and they extradited them to bali and executed them.bet you'd all be going nuts.
Again, lets reiterate that the British government is assisting with this. So it's not a matter of the American government doing this or doing that. It's a matter of governments working together. And this is nothing new.

Also, how does your example of "a small amount of drugs for personal consumption" compare to someone charged with making a quarter-of-a-million dollars off of illegal activities?
Call me when you extradite Sgt. Robert Bales for mass murder, you hypocritical American megalomaniac.
Sgt. Robert Bales is in jail.
In the country where he committed the crime? How about the abu ghraib guards? How about the guys that took a piss in corpses? And where was Bin Laden trial? At the end of the barrel? But hey, don't let pretending you stand for freedom and justice stop you from 'the American way' and all that heavy flag waving. We all know your country is just the most democratic in the world, and we should all be honored to serve you.
You have to pardon me, sometimes I forget only American laws are valid in the world. And even those can get suspended if you decide to execute someone on the spot because he was 'a really bad, evil, man' and a "danger to freedom". Americans, Cowboys forever! YEEEHAAAWWW AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!

I'll stick my foot up your ass.

284.4.2012 20:01

Originally posted by Red_Forman:
Originally posted by cazer:
Originally posted by Red_Forman:
Originally posted by bhetrick:
Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
Originally posted by bhetrick:
Are all of you really that clueless?

Governments and law enforcement of different countries have been working together to crack down on criminals for quite awhile.

So this news that one government is handing over a CRIMINAL to another government is surprising to you?
they are not cracking down on a common criminal they are taking a british citizen who has not broken uk law to another country and imprisoning him for running an internet website which the american government didnt like.

heres a thought for all you americans out there.how would you feel if an american citizen got charged for possesion of a small amount of drugs for personal consumption and they extradited them to bali and executed them.bet you'd all be going nuts.
Again, lets reiterate that the British government is assisting with this. So it's not a matter of the American government doing this or doing that. It's a matter of governments working together. And this is nothing new.

Also, how does your example of "a small amount of drugs for personal consumption" compare to someone charged with making a quarter-of-a-million dollars off of illegal activities?
Call me when you extradite Sgt. Robert Bales for mass murder, you hypocritical American megalomaniac.
Sgt. Robert Bales is in jail.
In the country where he committed the crime? How about the abu ghraib guards? How about the guys that took a piss in corpses? And where was Bin Laden trial? At the end of the barrel? But hey, don't let pretending you stand for freedom and justice stop you from 'the American way' and all that heavy flag waving. We all know your country is just the most democratic in the world, and we should all be honored to serve you.
You have to pardon me, sometimes I forget only American laws are valid in the world. And even those can get suspended if you decide to execute someone on the spot because he was 'a really bad, evil, man' and a "danger to freedom". Americans, Cowboys forever! YEEEHAAAWWW AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!
Actually, it goes "Yippey-Kai-Yay, Mother fucker".

297.4.2012 15:39

Shocking!!!

We cant extradite that muslim piece of shite Abu Qatada but yet we can with this guy who was just trying to make a buck and to be honest you have to give him credit for his ingenuity and savvy.

I doubt he even made a tenth of what they claim!

Political correctness gets worse in this country every day.
One day it will all come down on our heads and there will be no one to blame but the UK government and its greedy politicians snuffling as they do at the trough of the public purse!

No wonder the Americans laugh at the UK and our ridiculous legal system - I would far rather have Americas (flawed though it may be) than our woeful system.

Qatada has been held for six-and-a-half years, more than any other detainee in modern immigration history, while fighting deportation to Jordan.

But he will be released from the maximum security prison where he is being held after applying for bail when human rights judges in Europe ruled he could not be deported without assurances from Jordan that evidence gained through torture would not be used against him.

He has cost taxpayers more than 1million in benefits, prison costs and legal fees.



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308.4.2012 15:37

The problem starts with lawyers and ends with everyone of us learning the basic precepts of law for ourselves, its really not that hard.

The very first thing that you HAVE to sink into your heads is that there are actually 2 LANGUAGES BEING SPOKEN in legal proceedings. In America we speak English but there is also the language lawyers use called LEGALESE. It looks like English, with some Latin thrown in, but the definitions have been rewritten to mean something different.

Also People need to understand basic concepts of law, such as:
If there is no injured party there can be no crime. You have a right to confront your accuser (the person whom you supposedly caused harm to their life, limb, or property). Governments will pass laws that are unlawful. Most of the time they don't have jurisdiction. This is how I beat driving without a license. In the USA a license is required to 'drive'. The term 'drive' actually only applies to those involved in commercial activity. If you are using your own personal vehicle you are actually not a 'driver', at least not in the legal sense. So therefore the court does not have jurisdiction over me in this issue since I was not participating in 'Commercial Activity". Its actually quite simple.

As for this guys predicament he needs to stand on the jurisdictional issues.

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