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Comcast, Cablevision detail their Copyright Alert System 'punishments'

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 28 Feb 2013 19:24 User comments (25)

Comcast, Cablevision detail their Copyright Alert System 'punishments' Earlier this week, the major ISPs in the U.S. rolled out the "six strikes" Copyright Alert System (CAS).
The system is designed to educate pirates on legal alternatives and to push them away from unauthorized downloads.

AT&T, Time Warner and Verizon had already revealed their six strikes proposals and today we have learned what Comcast and Cablevision will do.

For Comcast, the first step is annoying alerts. You will be emailed and receive pop-up notices in your browser if you are believed to have infringed any copyrights. The next step will require a member of the household to log in to their Comcast email account to dismiss the next alert. For strike three and four, Comcast says the language will get "more pronounced and urgent" and you will again have to log in to acknowledge alerts.

Strikes five and six are "mitigation focused" and subscribers will be given 14 days to appeal the claims with the American Abitration Association. If the group finds in your favor, your alerts are reset. If you do not appeal, or lose the appeal, there will be a permanent alert left in your browser until you contact Comcast's Security Assurance group and go through an educational program.

Cablevision has a very similar system, with the first four strikes being alerts, and the fifth requiring and appeal. The sixth strike, however, will lead to your Internet being shut down for 24 hours.

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25 user comments

128.2.2013 22:11

Even if you have a VPN?

228.2.2013 22:50

Originally posted by PraisesToAllah:
Even if you have a VPN?
No, you'll be fine with a VPN. However, 99.9% of America have no idea what a VPN is.

31.3.2013 0:36

Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Originally posted by PraisesToAllah:
Even if you have a VPN?
No, you'll be fine with a VPN. However, 99.9% of America have no idea what a VPN is.
Thanks. I use PrivitizeVPN. Works great and easy to use.

41.3.2013 0:54

IMHO, people are worrying way more about this six strikes silliness than is warranted. Back when the **AA's were suing every downloader and their dead grandma for thousands of dollars, people just kept on downloading like nothing was going on, but now that there's a policy in place for wrist slapping, it seems like everyone is making like the internet is over. :-D


51.3.2013 3:21

I never use/used P2P. The point is having your ISP play the FBI. ISP's should work on improving their service not policing the Internet.

It gets more like 1984 everyday.

Jeff


Cars, Guitars & Radiation.

61.3.2013 10:02

it's not just p2p this is why this whole thing is messed up let me explain.

Creative commons license : allows free downloading and distribution of legal non copyrighted music videos and software for users to use.

under the new law.

No creative commons: why you ask see record labels that record these free creative commons albums can in fact put a owner ship copyright now what that means is its still creative commons music but if you use it like in youtube you can get flagged for a copyright violation even though the album is not copyrighted from the group or band itself the recording company that recorded it can claim its theres and still bust you for copyright violation which is bull crap because it means that the recording studio can get you busted even though they released the music or video via creative commons license.

Now the new law:

States it will bust you for illegal torrent use but that means they would have to search nearly 1 billion torrents a hour to find the illegal copyrighted works on the torrent sites now worse of this is most torrent sites mask there ip addresses or operate underground on vpn so if the file is legal this law would give people the right to search vpn's without a warrant and prosecute the vpn owner and all who signed up for the service.

This is why i find this law bull crap because it violates the internet protection and privacy act of 1995 where it states all users on the internet are anonymous and are to remain so at all times and without a search warrent may not collect use or distrubute information of a individual which this law openly violates so my rights to a fair trial by a jury is also damaged .

The new u.s we $%#@$ everyone

71.3.2013 13:57

Yes, I try to keep my post short. Once I get started I'll have three or four paragraphs.

I'm not sure if my ISP CenturyLink is part of these ISP goofballs.
Guess I could find out easily enough.

So tell me, Do you think there is a valid reason to subscribe to a VPN?

Jeff

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 01 Mar 2013 @ 14:00

Cars, Guitars & Radiation.

81.3.2013 14:31

Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:


So tell me, Do you think there is a valid reason to subscribe to a VPN?

Jeff
There are many free ones available.

91.3.2013 17:29

Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
So tell me, Do you think there is a valid reason to subscribe to a VPN?
No more or less than there was before six strikes was even in place. IMO, the possibility of being sued was always a bigger incentive to protect one's privacy than the possibility of being made to watch a copyright awareness video...

Though seedboxes tend to be a better choice than VPNs, IMHO. (Better speeds, better ratios, less hassle to configure properly for privacy.)
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 03 Mar 2013 @ 2:22

102.3.2013 9:27

What concerns me most is the concept behind it: guilty until proven innocent. Incorrectly identified users will need to spend money to clear their names...

CAS is not a law, it doesnt stop RIAA or MPAA from taking offenders to court, instead it uses ISPs to punish copyright violations, which is against an ISPs own business interest.

You potentially can use VPN to get around it, but you have to choose VPN providers that dont record IP addresses - no log VPN provider( //vpnverge.com/why-no-log-vpn/ ).

Suddenly, Kim dotcoms new mega seems promising - everything will be encrypted...

112.3.2013 23:11

After configuring a VPN I see Century Link/Qwest has joined the copyright alert system bandwagon.

Bastards did not have the balls to inform their customers.


Cars, Guitars & Radiation.

123.3.2013 2:27

Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
After configuring a VPN I see Century Link/Qwest has joined the copyright alert system bandwagon.
That's a shame. Where did you see that?

133.3.2013 5:52

Didn't see it anywhere.
I connected to Fosi. Really no software, I just use it for testing.

There was a redirect to a screen that read something like, "keep checking for a working server." On the right hand side it read, "If you are the owner of this sight please call 505-xxx-xxxx" which is a CenturyLink phone number.

Edit: Fosi semms to be running okay with or without using a VPN. Weird....

Jeff

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 03 Mar 2013 @ 5:53

Cars, Guitars & Radiation.

143.3.2013 14:18

More pi$$ing in the wind.

It's just another tactic in the strategy of trying to scare people & randomly selecting a handful of 'examples' to ruin & hold up as a warning for the multitude.

It's vindictive spite dressed up as legality.
Pretty sick stuff.

.....and for what?
Once TV & film & music is released the notion that you have - or should have - complete control over it to monetize it's use/consumption is as impossible as it is idiotic in this digital age to say the least.

153.3.2013 17:31

The "Six Strikes" Copyright Alert System (CAS), is just a voluntary agreement between segments of the content industry and ISPs.
CAS is not a law & do not apply to Wi-Fi Business accounts. FAQ:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/02/s...lert-system-faq

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 03 Mar 2013 @ 17:43

Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.

163.3.2013 20:00

Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Didn't see it anywhere.
I connected to Fosi. Really no software, I just use it for testing.

There was a redirect to a screen that read something like, "keep checking for a working server." On the right hand side it read, "If you are the owner of this sight please call 505-xxx-xxxx" which is a CenturyLink phone number.

Edit: Fosi semms to be running okay with or without using a VPN. Weird....

Jeff
Sounds kinda like it could have just been a site or DNS issue. Even if you don't use CenturyLink's DNS, they will still, on occasion, hijack responses from whatever DNS you use if it responds that it doesn't know the domain you asked for. (It's not a new development, and it can happen for any site.)

177.3.2013 20:23

Id like to see them try and high jack my browser.


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187.3.2013 22:09

Try pinging or browsing to a nonexistent domain. (Doesn't always happen, so you might have to try different times/domains.)


198.3.2013 13:42

Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Originally posted by PraisesToAllah:
Even if you have a VPN?
No, you'll be fine with a VPN. However, 99.9% of America have no idea what a VPN is.
WRONG!! EVEN if you have a vpn. They're running "Next Generation" firewalls that are using the VPN provider's keys and certificates and running man in the middle attacks on your traffic. EVEN if you VPN, they're still decrypting, monitoring and policing, then re-encrypting your traffic on you.

If there is a public key, or a key exchange on the line, the firewall picks it up and runs your traffic plain text inside itself (and over the monitor port to whatever government agency that may be involved).

208.3.2013 13:51

Originally posted by nonoitall:
Try pinging or browsing to a nonexistent domain. (Doesn't always happen, so you might have to try different times/domains.)
That's right. And this happens over VPN tunnels using other DNS servers. they're using the MITM attacks for the moment just to sell you advertising and make extra money off of your typos. But don't think for a second they're not logging at least the results, and probably user identifiable data for these too.

218.3.2013 23:59

Goddamn commie Americans imposing their commie ideals on an internet that's supposed to be free. Goddamn hypocrites...lol

229.3.2013 2:00
wpuell2010
Unverified new user

Comcast is one of the companies that robs customers asus, not to fuck warn them if they are the first to steal their customers by putting constraints on the damn internet all of Comcast

239.3.2013 17:15

Originally posted by wpuell2010:
Comcast is one of the companies that robs customers asus, not to fuck warn them if they are the first to steal their customers by putting constraints on the damn internet all of Comcast
what?! Try as I may, I can't decipher wtf this was an attempt to communicate.

249.3.2013 23:49

Originally posted by PraisesToAllah:
Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Originally posted by PraisesToAllah:
Even if you have a VPN?
No, you'll be fine with a VPN. However, 99.9% of America have no idea what a VPN is.
Thanks. I use PrivitizeVPN. Works great and easy to use.
Only porob w the free VPN offered by PB is the adware... also PB announced that this is not theirs but a third party that puts adware and browser select on with the download, so free really isnt.

jimmurray1946

2515.3.2013 11:24

I got one of these emails, for downloading porn. Hahaha. Good thing I decided to check my Comcrap account. So how do I go about changing or hiding my IP address for future reference?

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 15 Mar 2013 @ 11:25

Someone told me once that theres a right and wrong, and that punishment would come to those
who dare to cross the line.
But it must not be true for jerk-offs like you.
Maybe it takes longer to catch a total asshole.

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