OUYA shipping on March 28th

awesome can't wait for this power house to hit store shelves

everyone expects the ouya to be great.personally i think it will be a flop if it does get released.dont think it wont meet people expectations.

Originally posted by xboxdvl2:

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everyone expects the ouya to be great.personally i think it will be a flop if it does get released.dont think it wont meet people expectations.

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You have any actual concerns to back up that sort of thinking up? It's a high powered android box that connects directly to your tv with a wireless controller. The groundwork for software availability is already in place.. what else could anyone ask for?

Smartphones already have a reasonably easy time playing PS1, Genesis, NES/SNES/N64, Game Gear, Sega Master System, and many other emulators, with no gaming specialization and less power, on average, than the Ouya; the console should have no trouble playing quite good games. It's also only $100. I want one for myself, FFS, and I haven't owned a console since the PS1.

I'm already sold on the gaming, and the fact that it is specifically sold as an open, hackable system is freaking priceless. Hell, even with no hardware hacking, it'll be a quite capable HTPC. That'll do, even if it DIDN'T play games!

This kind of attempt to fulfill the customers' wishes deserves to be rewarded; I figure around $100 from me ought to do it. =)

The Ouya is also already in production, so you might as well notch the Cassandra bit back a couple.

I'm looking forward to mine. I have my expectations low initially as I think we are kind of beta testers for the main release date. They have asked us for feedback. That's not a bad thing tho. I want this new system/environment to succeed. Ironically it really doesn't matter exactly how powerful it is... just simply if it hits popular critical-mass... then it will do great things. So get behind it, don't fence-sit, what have you got to lose... $100?

Funny, even when major names like Kellee Santiago joins the crew the naysayers still go "but my tablet..."


On another note, everyone (inc. Linus Torvalds) whinges how they love the Raspberry Pi "but it's not quite as powerful as I'd like it". Well hack one of these cheap-ass buggers then... it even comes with it's own remote control heh.

It will be big. People will make piracy movie streaming options and every person will buy one . Whoever makes a good remote for it will be rich

I do not need another emulation box, I'll wait for the Ouya 2 that dose better 3d graphics....then they may get me bad LOL

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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I do not need another emulation box, I'll wait for the Ouya 2 that dose better 3d graphics....then they may get me bad LOL

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It's not gonna be just for emulation Zip. And new game code written especially for it would/could/should be optimised just like on other consoles.

Originally posted by Jemborg:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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I do not need another emulation box, I'll wait for the Ouya 2 that dose better 3d graphics....then they may get me bad LOL

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It's not gonna be just for emulation Zip. And new game code written especially for it would/could/should be optimised just like on other consoles.

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Sadly when I can do everything on the PC and msot games will be on steam theirs nothing worth while about it, when it becomes a real threat to AA gaming and has exclusive titles then maybe around the 2nd one it will be worth wasting time on. Do not get me wrong the PS4Next box are as bad they are just bad in different ways. And Nin is still in la la land.......

The Ouya is gonna do fine...The console is significantly cheaper than a full-fledged console, plus its open-sourced so developers and even people at home can create good games for it, and it really small so it can fit anywhere. What's NOT to like about it??

Originally posted by blueboy09:

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The Ouya is gonna do fine...The console is significantly cheaper than a full-fledged console, plus its open-sourced so developers and even people at home can create good games for it, and it really small so it can fit anywhere. What's NOT to like about it??

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No worth while games that can not be done on a PC everyone already has?

But not everyone has, or can afford, a PC in every place an Ouya can be. In my opinion, it's a GREAT console for a young teen. Then let 'em hack the crap out of it, if they want...

There's already a proven market for the generic Android games the Ouya will be able to run, much less those written especially for the platform.

I think a lot of people are missing the fact that the Ouya is really Google's Nexus Q at a sixth the price, with an already-established software base, easy hackability, and a bonus controller =) .

Originally posted by Bozobub:

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But not everyone has, or can afford, a PC in every place an Ouya can be. In my opinion, it's a GREAT console for a young teen. Then let 'em hack the crap out of it, if they want...

There's already a proven market for the generic Android games the Ouya will be able to run, much less those written especially for the platform.

I think a lot of people are missing the fact that the Ouya is really Google's Nexus Q at a sixth the price, with an already-established software base, easy hackability, and a bonus controller =) .

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Yes and no, most everyone has a PC that can play most steam games so spending 100$ more on it all is moot. So meh. :P

Steam is nowhere near the "Alpha and Omega" of video gaming, nor will it ever be. That's not a useful argument.

Originally posted by blueboy09:

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The Ouya is gonna do fine...The console is significantly cheaper than a full-fledged console, plus its open-sourced so developers and even people at home can create good games for it, and it really small so it can fit anywhere. What's NOT to like about it??

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Damn straight! What's more, it's a structured market environment to encourage this. Many don't look at OUYA as a whole. Sure, it's potentially hog-heaven for tinkerers but much more.

However, the OUYA will need kick-ass exclusives to sway the naysayers and fence-sitters. They'll start off a bit lame initially then will explode in sophistication as the community grows. And, take note ye naysayers, they don't have to be absolutely 100% exclusive... being released first on OUYA should be enough.

i doubt it will be $100.im expecting it will cost more than that.

Originally posted by xboxdvl2:

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i doubt it will be $100.im expecting it will cost more than that.

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They put up the price of extra controllers but it's still $99.99 everywhere. Ok, they raised it by 99 cents! :)

http://shop.ouya.tv/

(I checked all the other places they had it for pre-order too... same)

What it cost me as a backer: $99 console + $30 extra controller + $20 international postage = $149 Total.



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Originally posted by xboxdvl2:

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i doubt it will be $100.im expecting it will cost more than that.

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Are you butthurt over the OUYA after buying your computer and PS3? All you seem to be able to do is invalidly speculate about things and doubt prices that are pretty much set in stone. I repeat.. if you have any actual concerns that aren't simply based on your own ignorance perhaps you should post them so that a real discussion can take place. :)

Originally posted by hikaricor:

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Originally posted by xboxdvl2:

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i doubt it will be $100.im expecting it will cost more than that.

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Are you butthurt over the OUYA after buying your computer and PS3? All you seem to be able to do is invalidly speculate about things and doubt prices that are pretty much set in stone. I repeat.. if you have any actual concerns that aren't simply based on your own ignorance perhaps you should post them so that a real discussion can take place. :)

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my computer works for what i want it to and i have no regrets about my ps3.I even have a spare $100 lying around if i wanted the ouya.if you need reasons to why it will fail do a google search ( i even did 1 myself).without a time machine we do not know if it will be a success or not.hopefully in a few months you we can look back on my posts and either prove me wrong or agree that i was right.just annoys me the amount of confidence people have in a game system they have not even seen.

I've seen the whiny blog posts and the story on forbes, but none of this really solidifies the idea that OUYA will fail. They exceeded their kickstarter goal 9 fold and already have preorders going through a number of websites (it would be really interesting to see the numbers) and stores. All of this tells a completely different story than the google search you seem to preach by. As for not seeing the thing.. backers (should) and developers already have them inhand and they are functional to the intended specs. Do a youtube search if you need to see this console you're so suspect over.

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Originally posted by hikaricor:

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Originally posted by xboxdvl2:

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i doubt it will be $100.im expecting it will cost more than that.

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Are you butthurt over the OUYA after buying your computer and PS3? All you seem to be able to do is invalidly speculate about things and doubt prices that are pretty much set in stone. I repeat.. if you have any actual concerns that aren't simply based on your own ignorance perhaps you should post them so that a real discussion can take place. :)

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my computer works for what i want it to and i have no regrets about my ps3.I even have a spare $100 lying around if i wanted the ouya.if you need reasons to why it will fail do a google search ( i even did 1 myself).without a time machine we do not know if it will be a success or not.hopefully in a few months you we can look back on my posts and either prove me wrong or agree that i was right.just annoys me the amount of confidence people have in a game system they have not even seen.

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Your annoyance at people having positive expectations for the Ouya does not, in fact, infer any logical reason for it to fail. I can use your (and ZippyDSM's) exact same arguments for every other console ever made, after all; you cannot point to any specific console game and say, "That cannot be done on current PC hardware." Yet, those consoles have succeeded, often spectacularly.

I brought up emulation because it's one of the more difficult tasks that a system can perform. If I can run emulated console games on a smartphone, then there's plenty of power for games and other programs specifically written for the system. This is even more true for the Ouya, which is a game console first, and has no other tasks preassigned to it.

As for searching for why the Ouya may fail, you should be aware you can find just as many links as for why it may succeed. While it may annoy you that folks are positive about the Ouya, I'd say that's also a sign of coming success.

Originally posted by xboxdvl2:

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...just annoys me the amount of confidence people have in a game system they have not even seen.

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I suppose you're wondering why the Raspberry Pi is doing so well too?

Originally posted by Bozobub:

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As for searching for why the Ouya may fail, you [xboxdvl2] should be aware you can find just as many links as for why it may succeed. While it may annoy you that folks are positive about the Ouya, I'd say that's also a sign of coming success.

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Hear hear Bozobub, I think there is an expression for the highly vocal negative minority. Like how the luna-right in the US was absolutely certain Obama would get voted out after all their arguably treasonous white-anting. It's really easy to be negative but, let's face it, money talks and the ultimate indicator is the backing OUYA raised on KS.

I'll tell you why I backed this project... the names involved. There are well know folks that have real credentials getting behind this. People who gave good reasons for why they were behind it. Do a search on them!

I also willing to bet that a fair percentage of that neg comments search considered it a hoax or fraudulent.

Y'know, it's because I have most of the consoles and a kick-ass PC that I think the OUYA is a fine idea... and I'm not the only one.



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Mmmmmmmm I dunno if it has a niche yet and thats the problem if a few people buy the hardware then abandon the console for their tablets,Ipods,PCs old game consoles,new game cosnles, then what is the point?

It has zero power/draw behind it other than being "INDIE". That basically tells me its a loss, add on to it I as a PC/console owner have ZERO reason to get another mini PC to run steam games on, and even if it did have exclusive titles that alone defeats the perpuse of it being INDIE..... it just makes little sense at this point and time.

Its pertinacious wankery on the same level of the PS3/PS4 and to a lesser extent 360 with all its launch problems.

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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....then what is the point? Its pertinacious wankery on the same level of the PS3/PS4 and to a lesser extent 360 with all its launch problems.

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Them's fightin' words lol.

Can't see the point of a cheap standardised Android platform console?... tsk.

At least game developers seem to get it.

Originally posted by ME!:

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And, take note ye naysayers, they don't have to be absolutely 100% exclusive... being released first on OUYA should be enough.

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I know sometimes you have to have things repeated for them to sink in Zip. :P



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Originally posted by Jemborg:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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....then what is the point? Its pertinacious wankery on the same level of the PS3/PS4 and to a lesser extent 360 with all its launch problems.

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Them's fightin' words lol.

Can't see the point of a cheap standardised Android platform console?... tsk.

At least game developers seem to get it.

Originally posted by ME!:

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And, take note ye naysayers, they don't have to be absolutely 100% exclusive... being released first on OUYA should be enough.

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I know sometimes you have to have things repeated for them to sink in Zip. :P



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Is so cheap that everyone has it in their phone.... and other than techies no one else would want it, its kinda the opposite direction of the insanity of the PSX60 debacles.

And all in all they have the same hill to climb one just wastes billions on trekking it while the Ouya has little to lose comparatively speaking.

I'm trying to like it but its a very small boat in the middle of a hurricane and the PS4 ain't much bigger....but sadly the world will stop what they are doing and rally together to save Sonys sinking ship...........

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Is so cheap that everyone has it in their phone.... and other than techies no one else would want it... I'm trying to like it but its a very small boat in the middle of a hurricane and the PS4 ain't much bigger....but sadly the world will stop what they are doing and rally together to save Sonys sinking ship...........

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I don't have it in my phone. :(

And I think the idea of having a single standardised platform of proven hardware to write for is being lost here. Also the primary focus of the OUYA will be the controller NOT the touch screen... this is what many Android game devs wanted not just techies.

Regardless... I understand you waiting for the OUYA2. It was my decision to get behind the OUYA to help it get going. I believed that the big guys were stagnating... not taking chances. It wasn't about the latest wizzbang graphics for me... just fostering new and creative gameplay. My attitude was that I could easily afford to take a punt... so I did. And if it flops... big deal... we gave it a go.

EDIT: I've discovered that there's a good chance Firefox will be on it... yay:
http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/21/mozill...d-game-console/



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1. XBMC
2. Cheap/full mini-pc at a fraction of the cost (with the possibility of also running Linux down the line if you want)
3. Netflix/Hulu/etc streaming device for dumb TV's
4. Emulation
5. Android games
6. File Server

This thing does a bunch of crap that many dumber devices that cost $100 do poorly. My only complaint is the cube design...I prefer low profile.

Originally posted by IguanaC64:

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1. XBMC
2. Cheap/full mini-pc at a fraction of the cost (with the possibility of also running Linux down the line if you want)
3. Netflix/Hulu/etc streaming device for dumb TV's
4. Emulation
5. Android games
6. File Server

This thing does a bunch of crap that many dumber devices that cost $100 do poorly. My only complaint is the cube design...I prefer low profile.

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Hey Iggy. There's also the low power aspect. Now you can run your internet radio on a fraction of the power of your PC for instance. Let's hope FF come up with that browser.

Once the community takes off I'm sure there will be plenty of designs for custom hacking the case. Low profile ones. Fancy ones. Ones that incorporate a powered USB hub and a HHD. Nice thing is it won't bugger the warranty.



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Yeah...the low power thing is pretty big. I would like to see port replicators for these devices with options like ESATA/USB Hub/sata HD dock/etc. I'm hacking together one for my Minix Neo X5 atm...just waiting for some more parts to come in!

7. VMWare Thin Client
8. CarPC (tho, to be honest...you'd probably need roms that included drivers for common USB things like GPS receivers and FM radio and TV Tuners)

You're really just limited by your imagination on what you can do with these small Android devices.

Originally posted by IguanaC64:

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Yeah...the low power thing is pretty big. I would like to see port replicators for these devices with options like ESATA/USB Hub/sata HD dock/etc. I'm hacking together one for my Minix Neo X5 atm...just waiting for some more parts to come in!

7. VMWare Thin Client
8. CarPC (tho, to be honest...you'd probably need roms that included drivers for common USB things like GPS receivers and FM radio and TV Tuners)

You're really just limited by your imagination on what you can do with these small Android devices.

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Minix Neo X5 nice!

I'm not sure that the OUYA will get to do SATA unfortunately... is that incorporated into those A-I-O chipsets? Still I'm certain if the OUYA takes off there may be hacks for SATA AND those specialist device drivers you mentioned... that's the beauty of having a popular, hackable and standardised device. I had a friend phone me today raving about the Raspberry Pi and I'm there saying, "yeah well, that's good... but this thing has the potential to be much bigger imo. And even if there are yearly (yearly?) upgrades there'll be advice as to things you can do with your old OUYA on places- like lifehacker.com to name just one :) It will all tie in the "Maker Movement" hopefully. I have to get onto some electronics courses I can't wait to get up to this sh1t when my little boy gets old enough.

9. Plex
11. OnLive
12. FireFox browser
13. Programmable DIY drone
14. DYI RC device... already with a controller!
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Accidental double post.

No developer in there right mind would release AA titles on a console thats open source. the industry as of now seems to be how to maximize profit, reduce ownership rights and stomp out game piracy by whatever crude code (hardware/Software) they decide to spend millions on.

i don't expect any big name games to be on the Ouya, and if i needed a streaming box i could slap 50 dollars worth of computer parts in a box and get that.

Originally posted by Jemborg:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Is so cheap that everyone has it in their phone.... and other than techies no one else would want it... I'm trying to like it but its a very small boat in the middle of a hurricane and the PS4 ain't much bigger....but sadly the world will stop what they are doing and rally together to save Sonys sinking ship...........

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I don't have it in my phone. :(

And I think the idea of having a single standardised platform of proven hardware to write for is being lost here. Also the primary focus of the OUYA will be the controller NOT the touch screen... this is what many Android game devs wanted not just techies.

Regardless... I understand you waiting for the OUYA2. It was my decision to get behind the OUYA to help it get going. I believed that the big guys were stagnating... not taking chances. It wasn't about the latest wizzbang graphics for me... just fostering new and creative gameplay. My attitude was that I could easily afford to take a punt... so I did. And if it flops... big deal... we gave it a go.

EDIT: I've discovered that there's a good chance Firefox will be on it... yay:
http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/21/mozill...d-game-console/



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I get what you are saying but I do not think this will be it, the Ouya brand might but I do not see this taking over anything.

Besides if I can't hack it and download free stuff on it I can not afford it right now LOL

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No developer in there right mind would release AA titles on a console thats open source...

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That's a pretty frequent criticism Dex... and one they claim to deal with.

And plenty of established developers seem keen on it... I really can't be bothered to list them and their reasons... sorry.

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...I do not see this taking over anything.

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I don't see it taking over anything either... but that's not the point.

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Originally posted by DXR88:

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No developer in there right mind would release AA titles on a console thats open source...

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That's a pretty frequent criticism Dex... and one they claim to deal with.

And plenty of established developers seem keen on it... I really can't be bothered to list them and their reasons... sorry.

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...I do not see this taking over anything.

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I don't see it taking over anything either... but that's not the point.

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Well it has to stick, and like snow around here it never dose. LOL

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I do not need another emulation box, I'll wait for the Ouya 2 that dose better 3d graphics....then they may get me bad LOL

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It's not gonna be just for emulation Zip. And new game code written especially for it would/could/should be optimised just like on other consoles.

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Sadly when I can do everything on the PC and msot games will be on steam theirs nothing worth while about it, when it becomes a real threat to AA gaming and has exclusive titles then maybe around the 2nd one it will be worth wasting time on. Do not get me wrong the PS4Next box are as bad they are just bad in different ways. And Nin is still in la la land.......

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steam and other game clients are getting pushed out by microsoft ... that is why so many game companies are working hard on linux clients ( steam for linux has already quite a long list of games that work)and that will help push the success of this platform

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I do not need another emulation box, I'll wait for the Ouya 2 that dose better 3d graphics....then they may get me bad LOL

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It's not gonna be just for emulation Zip. And new game code written especially for it would/could/should be optimised just like on other consoles.

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Sadly when I can do everything on the PC and msot games will be on steam theirs nothing worth while about it, when it becomes a real threat to AA gaming and has exclusive titles then maybe around the 2nd one it will be worth wasting time on. Do not get me wrong the PS4Next box are as bad they are just bad in different ways. And Nin is still in la la land.......

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steam and other game clients are getting pushed out by microsoft ... that is why so many game companies are working hard on linux clients ( steam for linux has already quite a long list of games that work)and that will help push the success of this platform

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Ya but if it can not easily bring the DX library of games with it its nothing but a gimmick IMO. MS really needs to let go of DX1-9.x or someone needs to emulate the damn thing. IMO DX is everything in this fight.

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Originally posted by DXR88:

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No developer in there right mind would release AA titles on a console thats open source...

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That's a pretty frequent criticism Dex... and one they claim to deal with.

And plenty of established developers seem keen on it... I really can't be bothered to list them and their reasons... sorry.

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yeah, ill believe it when i see it. its all talk so far just like it has been for the last 15 years.

They may simply believe that they will make money in spite of piracy. We shall see...

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They may simply believe that they will make money in spite of piracy. We shall see...

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Frankly IMO piracy is the least concern expanding the library is everything and getting DX games on it is everything....IMO....

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Adventure game Journey has collected a string of honours at the Bafta Games Awards.

It won five out of the eight categories for which it had been nominated - Artistic Achievement, Audio Achievement, Game Design, Online Multiplayer and Original Music.

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Additionally, the company introduced Kellee Santiago to their team... Santiago is the co-founder of thatgamecompany, the developer behind the extremely popular (and beautiful) Flow, Flower and Journey for the PS3.

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Adventure game Journey has collected a string of honours at the Bafta Games Awards.

It won five out of the eight categories for which it had been nominated - Artistic Achievement, Audio Achievement, Game Design, Online Multiplayer and Original Music.

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Thats great most A games sell 10 times as much so meh.

Lets get DX on it so they have such a huge library they crush everyone!

BTW got any info on their backtracking on multi player?

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BTW got any info on their backtracking on multi player?

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No, do you?

EDIT: Ah I see, there's been a classic overreaction Zip:

Update: Ouya tells us that the console actually will support online multiplayer at launch, contrary to what we heard. "We will definitely be supporting online multiplayer — developers just need to build in the functionality," a representative said. Ouya PR clarified that online chat, friends lists, and achievements are the items that won't be available until later this year.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/11/40904...hrman-sxsw-2013

It's just a shame that most reporters don't double-check what they copy/paste and won't print a retraction when they get it wrong.



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