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Xbox One will support used games, won't require Internet connection for Offline gaming

Written by James Delahunty @ 20 Jun 2013 9:38 User comments (34)

Xbox One will support used games, won't require Internet connection for Offline gaming Microsoft has caved to criticism from gamers and others in the industry, killing plans to require Internet connection for Offline play and limiting the ability to play used games.
The announcement has come from Microsoft just one week after E3, where the new Xbox One system was unveiled by the company, before the PS4 was shown off to the world. Microsoft's policies toward playing used games and a requirement of regularly connecting to the Internet were heavily criticized, handing a huge advantage to Sony's console.

Don Mattrick, President of the Interactive Entertainment Business at Microsoft, said that company listened to gamers' reactions to the new console, and has decided to make some changes.

  • An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games
    After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
  • Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today
    There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.
In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console -- there will be no regional restrictions.



"We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds," Mattrick wrote.

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34 user comments

120.6.2013 09:57

Good on M$ for caving (and well done to the gaming community for forcing them to!), but the damage to the Xbox brand has already been done. And there's still the spectre of mandatory, always-on Kinect spying on you for the gub'mint. M$ signed up to the PRISM program, remember? <_< >_>

220.6.2013 10:02

You left off the part about how some features were going to be taken away due to this change:

via gametrailers.com

"There’s a few things we won’t be able to deliver as a result of this change," said Marc Whitten. "One of the things we were very excited about was 'wherever we go my games are always with me.' Now, of course your physical games won’t show up that way. The games you bought digitally will. You’ll have to bring your discs with you to have your games with you. Similarly, the sharing library [is something] we won’t be able to deliver at launch."

The family sharing feature that Microsoft revealed a couple weeks ago will be going away. This is because the new DRM policy won’t require users to register their game online or perform 24 hour online check ins, now that games will be handled just like it does currently on Xbox 360.

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 20 Jun 2013 @ 10:03

320.6.2013 10:11

Originally posted by afwxman75:
You left off the part about how some features were going to be taken away due to this change:

via gametrailers.com

"There’s a few things we won’t be able to deliver as a result of this change," said Marc Whitten. "One of the things we were very excited about was 'wherever we go my games are always with me.' Now, of course your physical games won’t show up that way. The games you bought digitally will. You’ll have to bring your discs with you to have your games with you. Similarly, the sharing library [is something] we won’t be able to deliver at launch."

The family sharing feature that Microsoft revealed a couple weeks ago will be going away. This is because the new DRM policy won’t require users to register their game online or perform 24 hour online check ins, now that games will be handled just like it does currently on Xbox 360.
That should be fairly obvious.

My biggest question in all of this: doesn't MS have a marketing or PR team? Why didn't they do surveys and research the public reaction to these "features" before announcing them? They could've saved themselves a ton of trouble.

420.6.2013 10:36

Good job. Now I may get a XB1.

520.6.2013 10:38

Even though we all knew this was coming, it is still good to see. Nothing good was going to come from one console dominating the market.

Originally posted by FatalFlow:
Good on M$ for caving (and well done to the gaming community for forcing them to!), but the damage to the Xbox brand has already been done. And there's still the spectre of mandatory, always-on Kinect spying on you for the gub'mint. M$ signed up to the PRISM program, remember? <_< >_>
Pffttt...consumers have short memories. 5 months down the track this will be a distant memory. Only hardcore gamers and the angry souls that inhabit this wonderful site will continue to hold a grudge.

620.6.2013 10:43

Originally posted by pensfan12:
Pffttt...consumers have short memories. 5 months down the track this will be a distant memory. Only hardcore gamers and the angry souls that inhabit this wonderful site will continue to hold a grudge.

My thought exactly. Most of the people that will buy this don't even know it exists yet! They'll stroll into a store around the holidays, recognize it from ads or their kids' begging for it, and buy it. (See the original Wii for reference!)

720.6.2013 11:27

Don't be surprised if things change in a year or two. The Microsoft rep said, "Similarly, the sharing library [is something] we won’t be able to deliver at launch." Once the XBox One has sold a few million consoles they will start releasing new games that require the 24 hour check in, DRM, no used sales, etc in order to support the "user experience" of sharing.

Microsoft doesn't like to back down. They will just delay their plans for a while.

820.6.2013 11:29

Less money to developers more money to stores . Well done .

920.6.2013 11:54

Xbox 180

1020.6.2013 12:08

180, indeed. Still costs too much, though. I might actually consider it if they drop the price to more comparable levels.

1120.6.2013 12:10

Blimey! you guys like to moan!! Give MS a break will ya! they caved in and made the necessary changes so get over it for **** sake! just enjoy whatever games come out for it and relax your mind and soul man!!!

BTW, Kinect 2 doesn't have to be always on, it can be switched off you know. Geez!


1220.6.2013 12:47

Now Im waiting for the name of the console to change to XBOX One Eighty.

1320.6.2013 13:25

Really??? Really??? "Family Sharing"

Does anyone truly give a shit about "family sharing" with an XBox???????????

NO!

They care about the next release of Call of Duty......PERIOD!

I think the damage is done, people are going to pass on XBox this time more so than expected and MS is gonna lose their shirts on this 500.00 dollar behemoth.

1420.6.2013 13:32

Still not going to get it and that's out of spite. I can never forgive MS for killing their Flight Sims.

1520.6.2013 13:37

and that's the kind of power we consumers have, now if we only knew how to use it against other big companies like Apple things will be much different. Now lets let microsoft know we want a $399.00 coonsole. Let's see what happens

1620.6.2013 13:56

Why would anyone buy this? You see what they wanted to do to you. They only changed because Sony's actions forced them to. Be a leader, not a follower Microsoft.

1720.6.2013 18:36

Quote:
After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One

and what's this line supposed to mean? Set-up on live, or just a general set-up...

1820.6.2013 18:45

Microsoft may have sealed their fate. This will come to haunt them when it is released.

PS4 was laughing and enjoying the show this whole time. Now they got to stop fooling around and actually get serious. XB1 is now a suitable competitor. If they match the price to $399, they will get really competitive.

1920.6.2013 19:42

Originally posted by buddyleem:
Less money to developers more money to stores . Well done .
Its so sad you actually believe this.

2020.6.2013 20:24

Originally posted by pensfan12:
Even though we all knew this was coming, it is still good to see. Nothing good was going to come from one console dominating the market.

Originally posted by FatalFlow:
Good on M$ for caving (and well done to the gaming community for forcing them to!), but the damage to the Xbox brand has already been done. And there's still the spectre of mandatory, always-on Kinect spying on you for the gub'mint. M$ signed up to the PRISM program, remember? <_< >_>
Pffttt...consumers have short memories. 5 months down the track this will be a distant memory. Only hardcore gamers and the angry souls that inhabit this wonderful site will continue to hold a grudge.

It is NOT about holding a grudge, it is about what MS tried to FORCE on it's customers. THEY STARTED THIS WHOLE THING...REMEMBER? And if people are stupid enough to think that this is STILL a good deal then I feel sorry for them.

It is a shame this had to happen, but lets remember that Microsoft did it themselves and I too, think the damage is already done.

Time will tell.
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 20 Jun 2013 @ 8:29

2120.6.2013 20:54

Originally posted by aw2600:
Don't be surprised if things change in a year or two. The Microsoft rep said, "Similarly, the sharing library [is something] we won’t be able to deliver at launch." Once the XBox One has sold a few million consoles they will start releasing new games that require the 24 hour check in, DRM, no used sales, etc in order to support the "user experience" of sharing.

Microsoft doesn't like to back down. They will just delay their plans for a while.
I think everyone didn't catch on to this comment. I think this person is right... Microsoft wont do it at "Launch", not to say they wont do it 6 months later after launch and require DRM and can't play used games, etc. etc. We are not out of the waters yet, they will still screw us, just read into the key words they use.

2220.6.2013 22:01

they are only delaying it. Down the road they will make it to where you will still have to check in online somehow. It dont matter to me, because am done with xbox. I will stick with playstation.

and even if i did have an always on kinect, i would cover up the camera when im not using it. the govt, would use the kinect to spy on its owners. My kinect now, us unplugged from the USB port when I dont use it. as is my webcams etc. If i dont use them, the are NOT connected. now that the govt is spying on our cellphones etc, whats to stop them ( if they arent already ) spying on our webcams hooked up to our pcs.

2320.6.2013 23:40

so microsoft adds drm to xbox one... people get upset... i can relate to that... sure.... then they do 180 on that decision and remove the drm and all things related to that.... people get upset... i don't get it lol... as far as i know the whole sharing thing was just a limited trial/demo of the game... and it was done before... i mean ps3 has that(60 mins trials) the 360 has that on xblig/xbla... so you share a game up to 10 people... did you REALLY think you share a FULL game with them? think again... and lets not forget about the fact that the game you install could be around 10-40 gb while the other people on the share list have to download the game.... so you install it from a disk 20-40gb it does not take too much time to install.... but DOES take a while to download... you will be upset... and after 1 hour of game play you will be upset even more... im not going to buy xbox one... might buy ps4 but im not that keen on it... most of the games(watch_dogs/BF4/AC black flag) come to pc anyway so meh...

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 21 Jun 2013 @ 12:09

2421.6.2013 02:02

Originally posted by FatalFlow:
Good on M$ for caving (and well done to the gaming community for forcing them to!), but the damage to the Xbox brand has already been done. And there's still the spectre of mandatory, always-on Kinect spying on you for the gub'mint. M$ signed up to the PRISM program, remember? <_< >_>
Why the hell would a person feel compelled to use the kinect and leave it on? Why not just unplug it or does it have to be on in order for the system to operate? I'm referring to the actuao console.

2521.6.2013 12:26

Now what Microsoft needs to do is sell 2 versions of the Xbox One. One with kinect for 500.00, and one without for 400.00.

2621.6.2013 14:53

Meh...Maybe I'm being petty but M$ is looking like bitches for caving so hard. PS4 just got a lot cooler. Seriously though...Why still $100 more? As fare as they caved why not a little more?

2721.6.2013 15:40

I agree. Damage done. Hard to save face with egg on it.

2821.6.2013 16:10

Originally posted by adre02:
Originally posted by FatalFlow:
Good on M$ for caving (and well done to the gaming community for forcing them to!), but the damage to the Xbox brand has already been done. And there's still the spectre of mandatory, always-on Kinect spying on you for the gub'mint. M$ signed up to the PRISM program, remember? <_< >_>
Why the hell would a person feel compelled to use the kinect and leave it on? Why not just unplug it or does it have to be on in order for the system to operate? I'm referring to the actuao console.
I believe that the Kinect is required. Kinect functionality is used to interact with the console. Even to do simple things like turn it on.

2921.6.2013 19:00

I think it's pretty funny, around here (work here) the people that complain the most about the government or some other entity spying on them post every flipping detail about thier boring a$$ lives on facebook, every...boring...a$$...detail.

3021.6.2013 19:08

yeah the PS4 will be cooler, until you update it 6 months down the line and changes the way it works, or removes a feature you paid for when you bought it. These businesses are going to try and get as much money out of you that they possibly can, any way they can, because they like money and to make money for thier investors, plain and simple. I don't think that is evil or mean, it's just business, don't take it personally.

3121.6.2013 19:12

Originally posted by Cyprien:
so microsoft adds drm to xbox one... people get upset... i can relate to that... sure.... then they do 180 on that decision and remove the drm and all things related to that.... people get upset... i dont get it lol... as far as i know the whole sharing thing was just a limited trial/demo of the game... and it was done before... i mean ps3 has that(60 mins trials) the 360 has that on xblig/xbla... so you share a game up to 10 people... did you REALLY think you share a FULL game with them? think again... and lets not forget about the fact that the game you install could be around 10-40 gb while the other people on the share list have to download the game.... so you install it from a disk 20-40gb it does not take too much time to install.... but DOES take a while to download... you will be upset... and after 1 hour of game play you will be upset even more... im not going to buy xbox one... might buy ps4 but im not that keen on it... most of the games(watch_dogs/BF4/AC black flag) come to pc anyway so meh...
To PC where most people buy them on steam, with DRM.

3222.6.2013 23:42

yes steam is a DRM system... but ill take steam over the DRM they were pushing with xbox one... steam has sales/offline mode/free weekends i been using it well over 8 years now... plus you can make money of it... the new trading cards earn you money ^_^ while you play your games :3

3328.6.2013 08:19

I would say I told you so but apparently that would be being a MS 'supporter'
(whatever that's supposed to be).

:P

3428.6.2013 23:36

I don't believe them.... They may say that now.... Watch 6 month down the line or a year later they will force it on you with an Xbox dashboard update. And why does it have to be after a one time system set-up? And what specifically I'd they mean? Do they mean the system , or do they mean the game in relation to the system set-up?

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