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Xbox co-creator: Xbox One can beat PS4

Written by James Delahunty (Google+) @ 02 Apr 2014 11:58 User comments (36)

Xbox co-creator: Xbox One can beat PS4 Ed Fries, an Xbox co-creator, has said that Microsoft's Xbox One console can emerge victorious over Sony's PlayStation 4 (PS4) if Microsoft makes the right moves.
What would be the right moves? By focusing on good execution of software and services, while newer technologies like VR gaming might be worth avoiding for now.

In a Q&A (or AMA) on Yabbly, Fries gave his input on what Microsoft needs to do to overcome Sony, which has seen a better start to this console war with the PS4 thus far.

(UPDATE: Xbox boss Phil Spencer has responded to Ed Fries comments on Virtual Reality.)

"They need better exclusive games than PS4. They need to be more open to indie developers. They need to adopt free to play gaming more aggressively. They need to continue to move Xbox Live forward as the leading online service. They need to show people why they included the new Kinect on every machine by demonstrating a compelling use for it."

Facebook's recent $2 billion acquisition of Oculus Rift turned a few heads (and made a few explode..) and Sony's own Project Morpheus indicate that VR is in the headlights whether we want it or not. Fries believes that Microsoft needs to take a good hard look at 3D before diving into the deep end.

"Given how little success the consumer electronics companies have had with 3D TVs with glasses, I am skeptical that general users are going to be strapping this thing onto their face any time soon," he said.

What do you think??

Sources and Recommended Reading:
Ask me Anything: I co-founded the Xbox (Ed Fries on Yabbly): https://yabbly.com/

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12.4.2014 14:08
koolxxx
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HA HA HA... you actually think youre going to beat the PS4 with your cheap ass games?? HA HA HA.. And after it has surpassed you since launch?

The xbox one is over... its a dead product. No one is buying that piece of shit. Move on already!

The PS4 is the best. Everyone I know either has one or will buy one soon. DUHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!

22.4.2014 14:44

play nice as the idiot doesn't know what he is talking about.

32.4.2014 15:44

Originally posted by ddp:
play nice as the idiot doesn't know what he is talking about.

Sure, we'll abuse the fanboi gently =3 . With lube, even! xD

@koolxxx: While I'm no great fan of consoles in general, and more specifically the XBone, you're appparently ignorant of certain countervailing points:
- Most games on both consoles are cross-platform. Insult the games on one, and you're largely doing the same for the other; they're almost exactly the same. Hell, even the consoles' hardware is hardly distinguishable between them, besides the RAM.
- Just because a competitor is doing better at the moment, is no reason you can't improve your own performance. No one knows what the future will bring, and Ed Fries' suggestions make a lot of sense, especially his comparisons of VR to the 3D market.
- The XBone still sells just fine. Yes, the PS4 currently outsells it, but it is NOT even close to dead.
- Both the PS4 and XBone are merely gimped midrange PCs, nothing more. You'd be better off buying a Steambox when they hit the market (which lets you install/change what you like) or an actual PC for the same amount of money or less; either would then let you significantly improve your system in the future, as well.
- No one likes a fanboi. Make a REAL argument or be dismissed as a raving teenager.
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42.4.2014 17:21

lol oooh!!! you been served!!

52.4.2014 18:12

Who cares if it wins. Just make great games and stable system. Real gamers don't care about the console war or the winner. We just want quality games on reliable and capable systems.


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62.4.2014 19:47
koolxxx
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Originally posted by Bozobub:
Originally posted by ddp:
play nice as the idiot doesn't know what he is talking about.

Sure, we'll abuse the fanboi gently =3 . With lube, even! xD

@koolxxx: While I'm no great fan of consoles in general, and more specifically the XBone, you're appparently ignorant of certain countervailing points:
- Most games on both consoles are cross-platform. Insult the games on one, and you're largely doing the same for the other; they're almost exactly the same. Hell, even the consoles' hardware is hardly distinguishable between them, besides the RAM.
- Just because a competitor is doing better at the moment, is no reason you can't improve your own performance. No one knows what the future will bring, and Ed Fries' suggestions make a lot of sense, especially his comparisons of VR to the 3D market.
- The XBone still sells just fine. Yes, the PS4 currently outsells it, but it is NOT even close to dead.
- Both the PS4 and XBone are merely gimped midrange PCs, nothing more. You'd be better off buying a Steambox when they hit the market (which lets you install/change what you like) or an actual PC for the same amount of money or less; either would then let you significantly improve your system in the future, as well.
- No one likes a fanboi. Make a REAL argument or be dismissed as a raving teenager.
edited by ddp

@Bozobub, While I mostly play PC games, edited by ddp.
- Exclusive titles are on both systems. Playstation has had long-term experience in delivering quality exclusives that MS cant match. Everyone knows that.
- Just because MS is doing poorly doesnt mean you should ass kiss the Xbone to death for no apparent reason other than to satisfy the fanboy in you. Look at VR. Its expected to sell more than what MS is doing. Keep using sign language on that lame Kinect.
- Sales in a competitive world is measured in relative terms, not absolute ones. At the rate that Sony is selling the PS4, the Xbone is slowly sealing its timely death.
- Correction. The PS4 is NOT a PC. Its a gaming console thats installed in more living rooms than the Xbone. The living room is an entertainment area that MS failed to get buyers to install the Xbone in. You'd be better off buying a PC with i7 core and 8GB ram. But you'll have to spend extra hundreds of dollars on it.
edited by ddp
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72.4.2014 19:54

edited by ddp
News Flash!! Sony is in major financial trouble. Sales from their gaming division may mean jack squat if the rest of the company is bleeding cash to the point of bankruptcy.

Not taking sides as I think both the XBOX One and PS4 are a waste of money at this point for their netbook powered PC wannabe specs but to each is own. Just thought you may want to have your facts straight but it is quite apparent that you are a very immature and ignorant. I suspect that you are a teenager or someone that never grew up.

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82.4.2014 20:07

Got your fanboi ruffles in a bunch, eh?

Another list for you, in the order you posted:
- Most of the titles on both systems are NOT exclusive to any one platform. Nattering on about exclusives is silly. Furthermore, YOUR opinion on what exclusives there are is just that: your opinion.
- M$ isn't doing "poorly", they're just not selling as many console units as Sony. In fact, Sony is very close, as a company, to going bankrupt. You might want to do your research next time.
- Sales are actually measured in profits, period, and those profits are only measured in - you guessed it - absolutes. Competition is relative, certainly, but that's not what you said, now is it?
- "Correct" me all you like, both consoles ARE weaksauce gaming PCs, with custom OSes slapped onto them; the main differences are RAM specs and varying (but very similar) CPU/GPU design. Your insistence otherwise simply reveals your ignorance of their construction. In fact, you CAN buy a sub-$500 barebones system on Newegg right now that outperforms both consoles; neither one of them has anywhere near the power of a true desktop, sorry. Are you really going to try to insist 8 cores gimped to 1.6 GHz is "all that"..? My LAPTOP'S 8 logical cores (3.6 GHz i7 with 4 Hyperthreaded cores) run at exactly that clock rate! Furthermore, the $500 barebones from Newegg lets you put in better hardware whenever you like or can afford to do so. Have fun trying to swap in a new CPU on that PS4, bub.
- As I mentioned already, I don't particularly like consoles at all, I don't own one, and I like the XBone least, your frantic insults aside. I just don't particularly like fanbois raging about unimportant fluff.

Point of fact, neither company makes much of a profit, if any, directly off of the consoles themselves; profit comes from software sales (quite easily verified via Google). This has been true for a LONG time in the console market, by the by: the consoles are loss-leaders to drive content sales.

I'll just take that "real man" glove from where you dropped it and smack you gently upon each cheek; right back at'cha, buster. Funny, how you insist you're not a fanboi, yet this is all ya got =) . Rage on; I find it deliciously ironic.

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92.4.2014 20:14

lol i changed my mind now you got served !!

102.4.2014 20:25

Originally posted by koolxxx:
Originally posted by ddp:
play nice as the idiot doesn't know what he is talking about.
Looks like RuPaul is jealous.. hahaha



You know, insulting mods just MIGHT not be the best path to follow... lol

112.4.2014 20:59

IF IF IF IF ???


Nonsense! Xbox One 'can' beat PS4 IF it had 1. lower price (competitive of course), 2. came out earlier, 3. added less "sharing" features and more kickass gaming features.

PS4 is a culprit of overdoing the 'sharing' part in trade for better, bigger, badder games.

123.4.2014 0:16

koolxxx, i was not calling you an idiot but the ms guy so what do you have to say?

133.4.2014 16:13

"By focusing on good executive of software and services"???

Execution? Exclusivity?

144.4.2014 8:42

Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
"By focusing on good executive of software and services"???

Execution? Exclusivity?

Thanks :-)

154.4.2014 10:43

So anyone put that nasty Xbone bottleneck(how the ram talks to the CPU,ect) to the test? Is it going to be like the PS3 where you are forced to use lower textures 8 times out of 10?


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164.4.2014 17:28

@ddp ~ I wouldn't have even bothered and just given him at least a day off...maybe even 3 for the blatant disregard to a warning and a direct disrespectful insult.

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175.4.2014 2:38
koolxxx
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Originally posted by Bozobub:
Got your fanboi ruffles in a bunch, eh?

Another list for you, in the order you posted:
- Most of the titles on both systems are NOT exclusive to any one platform. Nattering on about exclusives is silly. Furthermore, YOUR opinion on what exclusives there are is just that: your opinion.
- M$ isn't doing "poorly", they're just not selling as many console units as Sony. In fact, Sony is very close, as a company, to going bankrupt. You might want to do your research next time.
- Sales are actually measured in profits, period, and those profits are only measured in - you guessed it - absolutes. Competition is relative, certainly, but that's not what you said, now is it?
- "Correct" me all you like, both consoles ARE weaksauce gaming PCs, with custom OSes slapped onto them; the main differences are RAM specs and varying (but very similar) CPU/GPU design. Your insistence otherwise simply reveals your ignorance of their construction. In fact, you CAN buy a sub-$500 barebones system on Newegg right now that outperforms both consoles; neither one of them has anywhere near the power of a true desktop, sorry. Are you really going to try to insist 8 cores gimped to 1.6 GHz is "all that"..? My LAPTOP'S 8 logical cores (3.6 GHz i7 with 4 Hyperthreaded cores) run at exactly that clock rate! Furthermore, the $500 barebones from Newegg lets you put in better hardware whenever you like or can afford to do so. Have fun trying to swap in a new CPU on that PS4, bub.
- As I mentioned already, I don't particularly like consoles at all, I don't own one, and I like the XBone least, your frantic insults aside. I just don't particularly like fanbois raging about unimportant fluff.

Point of fact, neither company makes much of a profit, if any, directly off of the consoles themselves; profit comes from software sales (quite easily verified via Google). This has been true for a LONG time in the console market, by the by: the consoles are loss-leaders to drive content sales.

I'll just take that "real man" glove from where you dropped it and smack you gently upon each cheek; right back at'cha, buster. Funny, how you insist you're not a fanboi, yet this is all ya got =) . Rage on; I find it deliciously ironic.
edited by ddp

Heres a fact based list just for you:
- Many titles are exclusives to each console. Not noting the quality differences on both is ignorant. edited by ddp
- MS is doing poorly. Theyre lagging behind sony PS4 and now game publishers are thinking about dropping some games from xbox one. Matter of fact, MS is doing very badly with their windows phone 8, windows 8 o/s, and of course its gaming unit. You should make google your friend next time.
- Profit is measured in.. relatives.. as its used to compare the progress of a company with another. And the profits from MS gaming division is in poor standing compared with sony's. DUHHHHHH.
- Youve been corrected yet again. The consoles are NOT PCs. If they were, you'd see a keyboard, mouse, etc included.. DUHHHHHH!!!! Youre failure to recognize a gaming console from a PC speaks volumes about your ever embarassing ignorance. If you want, you can buy a PC with keyboard, mouse, DVD player etc and use it as a computer. You cant do the same with a gaming console. Are you trying to say that people should now buy the xbone to meet their everyday computing needs? I got a laptop with i7 core, 16GB ram and 3.1 GHz that can beat your little Xbone system that you claim can double up as a computer for everyone to use in their everyday life. How come people arent rushing to buy the Xbone as a substitute for their laptops or PCs?? Enjoy doing performing a PowerPoint presentation or writing a thesis on Word on it... DUHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!
- Like I said, I like my laptop and I like the PS4. edited by ddp

Fact of the matter is, Sony is making profit off each console, though it isnt much. Just to let ou know, the main bread and butter in profit comes from games themselves. Use google to look up this crucial fact that youre missing. Even everyone knows this.

edited by ddp
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185.4.2014 4:15

I've got both systems --> They suck equally!!!!


No time for Leap frog!!!

195.4.2014 4:29

Wow. You really seem fascinated with homosexuals; hiding something? For that matter, how do you know I'm not a woman..? Heh; "feminized"... You really must be 12.

A little news flash: no, ddp is not "pretending" to be a mod, silly git, nor have I ever seen anyone trying that kind of stunt on this forum; notice the word "Moderator" after his name? And once more, I don't own any consoles at all. In fact, I like the XBone least of the extant generation of consoles, as I've told you several times.

This is one of the funniest things you have said so far:

Quote:
Youve been corrected yet again. The consoles are NOT PCs. If they were, you'd see a keyboard, mouse, etc included.. DUHHHHHH!!!! Youre failure to recognize a gaming console from a PC speaks volumes about your ever embarassing ignorance. If you want, you can buy a PC with keyboard, mouse, DVD player etc and use it as a computer. You cant do the same with a gaming console. Are you trying to say that people should now buy the xbone to meet their everyday computing needs? I got a laptop with i7 core, 16GB ram and 3.1 GHz that can beat your little Xbone system that you claim can double up as a computer for everyone to use in their everyday life. How come people arent rushing to buy the Xbone as a substitute for their laptops or PCs?? Enjoy doing performing a PowerPoint presentation or writing a thesis on Word on it... DUHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!

Really? Why don't you explain to us what "OtherOS" on the PS3 was, hmm? In fact, you CAN use a keyboard and mouse with both consoles, with the proper hardware, and the only thing preventing them from being general-use PCs is the OS itself. Even then, the XBone WILL run Metro apps, which can certainly include ones meant for productivity, not gaming.

Why aren't people rushing to buy an XBone (or PS4) as a general PC? Because it would be silly to do so, if that's all you wanted; you could buy a cheapo office PC for $300 or so. My observation that both systems are essentially slightly gimped midrange gaming PCs (with specialized OSes) still stands, bucko, and it's not just my impression. Maybe if you tried some research and reading? lol

Yell more. Insult more. Stomp your feet. Hold your breath. None of it will change the simple truth, sorry, even if you turn quite mauve. The more insulting you get, the more you prove you're a raving teeange fanboi.

@JOHNSTARR: I completely agree. I dislike the PS4 slightly less, largely due to Sony's far smarter marketing decisions to date, i.e. NOT requiring purchase of the camera, no silly "always-connected" missteps, and so on. Beyond that, it's pretty much a toss-up.
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205.4.2014 8:42

Originally posted by koolxxx:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
So anyone put that nasty Xbone bottleneck(how the ram talks to the CPU,ect) to the test? Is it going to be like the PS3 where you are forced to use lower textures 8 times out of 10?
@ Zippy, dont even worry about Bozobub and his MS fanboy friend who claims to be a mod here. Just let them take their daily prozac. In about 3 days they will have calmed down and realize they didnt know that all their insults were just cries for badly needed help and attention.
WEll I am still interested in it as its the only thing that could hold the Xbone down in terms of power

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215.4.2014 16:17

koolxxx, i don't have a game console so how can i be a fanboy? i guess you don't read to well so i guess i'll give you a prema ban for the various insults you gave out & post padding. posts edited.

225.4.2014 20:34

I'm not supposed to laugh, but... Hee hee hee hee. 'Nuff said.

I'm hoping the PS4 does better than the XBone, simply because I dislike M$, and more specifically how they handled the system's launch, so I'm pretty biased. That said, I think the fact that - so far at least - the PS4 better handles 1080p much better out of the gate (although that gap is shrinking rapidly, apparently) has been a serious blow to the XBone's fortunes.

What I read online is that they're almost exactly comparable in raw power, but the XBone is significantly more difficult to program for than the PS4, due to its "multimedia hub" design, rather than the PS4's directly game-centric design. Amusingly enough, this is pretty much a direct reversal of the last generation of consoles; the "Cell" CPU in the PS3 was apparently a real bear to properly use, but a real beast when you did so.

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 05 Apr 2014 @ 20:34

236.4.2014 17:44
silee1
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Originally posted by ddp:
koolxxx, i don't have a game console so how can i be a fanboy? i guess you don't read to well so i guess i'll give you a prema ban for the various insults you gave out & post padding. posts edited.
You do have a game console. What aferdawn mod doesnt? I guess you expect us to be ignorant as you to believe that. So I guess youre a mod of convenience, only banning those who disagree with your ideas.


246.4.2014 17:47
silee1
Inactive

Originally posted by Bozobub:
I'm not supposed to laugh, but... Hee hee hee hee. 'Nuff said.

I'm hoping the PS4 does better than the XBone, simply because I dislike M$, and more specifically how they handled the system's launch, so I'm pretty biased. That said, I think the fact that - so far at least - the PS4 better handles 1080p much better out of the gate (although that gap is shrinking rapidly, apparently) has been a serious blow to the XBone's fortunes.

What I read online is that they're almost exactly comparable in raw power, but the XBone is significantly more difficult to program for than the PS4, due to its "multimedia hub" design, rather than the PS4's directly game-centric design. Amusingly enough, this is pretty much a direct reversal of the last generation of consoles; the "Cell" CPU in the PS3 was apparently a real bear to properly use, but a real beast when you did so.
What you failed to read online is that theyre almost alike but quite different in key areas. The PS4 is more of a gaming machine while the Xbone is more multimedia. Another key difference is that the PS4 can play some games at 1080p on a high framce rate while the Xbone cant. So, the consoles are similiar but not the same.

256.4.2014 20:51

You know the funny thing I find with all the usual wind & noise over the new Sony & MS consoles is that hardly anyone is prepared to acknowledge both are doing very well.
Compared to the last gen both are up in sales.

XB1 may well 'win' eventually, who knows, it is far too early to say.
I do know my PS4 owning friends are not exactly rushing to buy games right now as there isn't exactly a ton of 'must have' games for it (yet).

In the UK we have already seen bundles & price cutting to whittle away the PS4 cost advantage.
It'll be another 2yrs or so until each really get into their stride & the outcome of that is far from clear, no matter what the fanboy gang claim.

266.4.2014 21:46

silee1, like i said before i don't have a game console & never have nor do i want 1. i don't even play games on my computers as i use them as tools to work on customers' computers & research for my model warships. haven't even played solitaire in years which is how i learned to use windows back in ver 2 or 3 in the early 90's.

277.4.2014 2:41

Originally posted by silee1:
Originally posted by Bozobub:
I'm not supposed to laugh, but... Hee hee hee hee. 'Nuff said.

I'm hoping the PS4 does better than the XBone, simply because I dislike M$, and more specifically how they handled the system's launch, so I'm pretty biased. That said, I think the fact that - so far at least - the PS4 better handles 1080p much better out of the gate (although that gap is shrinking rapidly, apparently) has been a serious blow to the XBone's fortunes.

What I read online is that they're almost exactly comparable in raw power, but the XBone is significantly more difficult to program for than the PS4, due to its "multimedia hub" design, rather than the PS4's directly game-centric design. Amusingly enough, this is pretty much a direct reversal of the last generation of consoles; the "Cell" CPU in the PS3 was apparently a real bear to properly use, but a real beast when you did so.
What you failed to read online is that theyre almost alike but quite different in key areas. The PS4 is more of a gaming machine while the Xbone is more multimedia. Another key difference is that the PS4 can play some games at 1080p on a high framce rate while the Xbone cant. So, the consoles are similiar but not the same.

What YOU didn't read, apparently, is the section at the end of what you quoted, where I said:
Quote:
What I read online is that they're almost exactly comparable in raw power, but the XBone is significantly more difficult to program for than the PS4, due to its "multimedia hub" design, rather than the PS4's directly game-centric design. Amusingly enough, this is pretty much a direct reversal of the last generation of consoles; the "Cell" CPU in the PS3 was apparently a real bear to properly use, but a real beast when you did so.

Well? What are you saying, that I didn't already..? I simply don't see it. In fact, what's being said online is that while there was an initial difference, that's rapidly disappearing as developers learn to code for the XBone. Again, this is a reversal of the XBox 360/PS3 paradigm.

You probably should be a little more subtle, by the way, when making a new account; you're not fooling anyone. Nor is indirectly calling a mod a liar a particularly good idea on any forum. Don't get in pissing matches with mods, especially ones as active as ddp. It's not like he's a tyrant, no matter what you think at the moment.
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287.4.2014 15:27
silee1
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Originally posted by Bozobub:
Originally posted by silee1:
Originally posted by Bozobub:
I'm not supposed to laugh, but... Hee hee hee hee. 'Nuff said.

I'm hoping the PS4 does better than the XBone, simply because I dislike M$, and more specifically how they handled the system's launch, so I'm pretty biased. That said, I think the fact that - so far at least - the PS4 better handles 1080p much better out of the gate (although that gap is shrinking rapidly, apparently) has been a serious blow to the XBone's fortunes.

What I read online is that they're almost exactly comparable in raw power, but the XBone is significantly more difficult to program for than the PS4, due to its "multimedia hub" design, rather than the PS4's directly game-centric design. Amusingly enough, this is pretty much a direct reversal of the last generation of consoles; the "Cell" CPU in the PS3 was apparently a real bear to properly use, but a real beast when you did so.
What you failed to read online is that theyre almost alike but quite different in key areas. The PS4 is more of a gaming machine while the Xbone is more multimedia. Another key difference is that the PS4 can play some games at 1080p on a high framce rate while the Xbone cant. So, the consoles are similiar but not the same.

What YOU didn't read, apparently, is the section following what you quoted, where I said:
Quote:
What I read online is that they're almost exactly comparable in raw power, but the XBone is significantly more difficult to program for than the PS4, due to its "multimedia hub" design, rather than the PS4's directly game-centric design. Amusingly enough, this is pretty much a direct reversal of the last generation of consoles; the "Cell" CPU in the PS3 was apparently a real bear to properly use, but a real beast when you did so.

Well? What are you saying, that I didn't already..? I simply don't see it. In fact, what's being said online is that while there was an initial difference, that's rapidly disappearing as developers learn to code for the XBone. Again, this is a reversal of the XBox 360/PS3 paradigm.

You probably should be a little more subtle, by the way, when making a new account; you're not fooling anyone. Nor is indirectly calling a mod a liar a particularly good idea on any forum. Don't get in pissing matches with mods, especially ones as active as ddp. It's not like he's a tyrant, no matter what you think at the moment.
You should be careful when posting like you know what youre talking about, youre not fooling anyone. Nor is defending your Afterdawn buddies a good idea on this forum. We see right through you. Dont start defending your buddies like that, especially when they got the power to ban YOU. It's not like he has more power than other mods. But consider that other mods are reading whats going on and they got more power than ddp to ban both of you. Tihnk about it.

297.4.2014 17:22

I notice that you quite blatantly have no response to my post, beyond more silliness. Perhaps I use too many polysyllabic words for you? I'd apologize, but I actually don't give a damn if you are afflicted with brain cramps by having to actually read.

In response to your further rantings, I'm not worried at all, silly git. I certainly have been warned by mods here at times, and rightfully so when it happened, but guess what? I do this thing called "listening", and I modify the actions that caused the warning, if it happens. You really ought to try it; it's why I'm a "Senior Member", and you're still a "Newbie". That certainly does not mean I'm better than you, but it does demonstrate I haven't ever been banned from AD.

You're also not going to be able to use nonexistent censure by mods you are quite obviously NOT on good terms with to scare me, bucko, especially since you've already been banned once in this thread alone.

Nor is ddp particularly my buddy (or enemy). Like most people here, I only interact with him (even that's an assumption, I simply don't know ddp's gender, nor care) around the context of mod actions and the rather rare actual opinion he'll post under an article, as he did here. Unfortunately for your paranoia, people don't have to be allies to disapprove (or make fun of) improper and/or inappropriate public behavior. Deal with it. It's one of the consequences of speaking in/to the public, and you won't be able to avoid it, any more than anyone else can. One of the duties of any adult is being responsible for one's public statements.

Furthermore, I haven't posted anything that's incorrect, and I've been pretty clear about what is opinion and fact in my posts. Additionally, I can back up every claim I've made. You simply have not, and will not, be able to do the same.

Sorry, enraged-12-year-old-fanboi, but no one is impressed, least of all me. Learn2debate with adults, or continue to repeat the generation of new accounts, both here and on many other forums. This isn't 4chan, and your behavior so far simply does not fly. While I do find poking you and watching you foam like a can of shaving cream with a bad valve to be quite entertaining, it really would be in your best interests to step off, to be blunt.

307.4.2014 21:06
silee1
Inactive

Originally posted by Bozobub:
I notice that you quite blatantly have no response to my post, beyond more silliness. Perhaps I use too many polysyllabic words for you? I'd apologize, but I actually don't give a damn if you are afflicted with brain cramps by having to actually read.

In response to your further rantings, I'm not worried at all, silly git. I certainly have been warned by mods here at times, and rightfully so when it happened, but guess what? I do this thing called "listening", and I modify the actions that caused the warning, if it happens. You really ought to try it; it's why I'm a "Senior Member", and you're still a "Newbie". That certainly does not mean I'm better than you, but it does demonstrate I haven't ever been banned from AD.

You're also not going to be able to use nonexistent censure by mods you are quite obviously NOT on good terms with to scare me, bucko, especially since you've already been banned once in this thread alone.

Nor is ddp particularly my buddy (or enemy). Like most people here, I only interact with him (even that's an assumption, I simply don't know ddp's gender, nor care) around the context of mod actions and the rather rare actual opinion he'll post under an article, as he did here. Unfortunately for your paranoia, people don't have to be allies to disapprove (or make fun of) improper and/or inappropriate public behavior. Deal with it. It's one of the consequences of speaking in/to the public, and you won't be able to avoid it, any more than anyone else can. One of the duties of any adult is being responsible for one's public statements.

Furthermore, I haven't posted anything that's incorrect, and I've been pretty clear about what is opinion and fact in my posts. Additionally, I can back up every claim I've made. You simply have not, and will not, be able to do the same.

Sorry, enraged-12-year-old-fanboi, but no one is impressed, least of all me. Learn2debate with adults, or continue to repeat the generation of new accounts, both here and on many other forums. This isn't 4chan, and your behavior so far simply does not fly. While I do find poking you and watching you foam like a can of shaving cream with a bad valve to be quite entertaining, it really would be in your best interests to step off, to be blunt.

I see that you get very upset and sensitive to my every post which tells is making look and feel ridiculously embarrassed. My multiple lexiconic words are too much for your intellectual capacity to bear, making you obsequious to my every whim. I didn't mean to make you experience intellectual diarrhea with your difficulty to deal with someone who uses a vocabulary greater than your 2nd grade level grammar will permit.

Despite your sexual frustrations, we're all laughing at your idiocy. We're not worried about your inablility to understand the world of gaming and PCs. You've been warned by mods here and you still arent smart enough to take the hint. You should start an activity called 'sex' for once. Maybe this will open up your lonely state of misery and angst against the world. You should try it. I'm sure your parents and the few friends that you can count on your hand have urged you to try it despite your fear of going outside. That tells us that you're many levels beneath me, considering you've been both warned and banned on Afterdawn.

You're not smart enough to manipulate the mods here who are way smarter than you to satisfy your needy requests since they know the type of sexless mental patient you are. When you mention being scared, this is an obvious indication that you indeed are scared... boo!!!

We all know ddp is your buddy. You interact with him since youre always on Afterdawn harassing others and using him as your shield since you lack the balls to do defend yourself. Unfortunately, people here have to bear the brunt of your sexual frustrations of being afraid of going outside and unable to attract a female (or in your case, a male) to satisfy your needs. Accept it. It's one of the tragedies of being born a weakling with a very small private part. One of the responsibilities of being a real man is to act like one.

Moreover, you've posted inaccuracies that have defied utter logic and common sense. Regrettably, you've failed to prove all your points which I shot down with proof. I, on the other hand, have proved my case with evidence, common sense and example.

Don't feel bad, 50 year-old sexually frustrated man, but no one here likes you. Not even females, obviously. Learn from your grammar mistakes and be a real man. Otherwise, you'll find yourself making boring repeat posts under different accounts which we've seen you do on many forums including this one. This isn't Facebook. You're too old to be here. Its nonetheless fun making you sweat and rant like the old man that you are, trying too hard to try to topple me while I got you by the neck yelling for your mommy.. HA HA HA HA.. Even though you're mad that viagra isn't working for you anymore, you should take a break from having me enbarrass you further. While you read this, I know your blood pressure rises while your d*** can't.

HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!

317.4.2014 21:12

goodbye.

327.4.2014 23:12

It makes one wonder why you continued to feed the troll, Bozohub. Just seemed like a waste of time, and energy.

337.4.2014 23:19

I'm pretty sure that I made it clear that I found it amusing; so did my wife, in fact. I like little more than inveigling a troll into completely revealing him/herself in all their *cough* "glory".

That said, I'm NOT going to apologize for making (non-profane) responses to any given posts that are directed at me. Whether or not it was a waste of my time is for me to judge, no one else =) . Furthermore, it's not like I didn't repeatedly warn the sot about what was going to happen, now is it?

Anyone who thinks they're going to make hay by trolling AD is simply a fool, nothing more; as I said, this is not 4chan. If he makes another account and continues to rage, the next step will simply be deleting his posts, I'd guess.

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348.4.2014 4:01

Wow all this over two systems that are trying to be better than a computer in speed and specs.
And better as multimedia/ social center for the home. not to ruffle any feathers but its not how good the system is but how playable the stuff is on the system, the harder it is to play stuff the less likely people are to buy it because a new form of word of mouth can make or break a system . Why do you think ms has all them young and hip stars hocking theirs system on tv " ooh the Keenan and peel play xb1 so it must be good" lol

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358.4.2014 4:56

ddp im shocked honestly.
The not owning a game console is fair enough if you don't play games but i thought the curiosity of game consoles would of had you trying to mod/hack/patch them or fix them or even try to write programs for them or modify software to run on them.

Here in australia some computer business also do modding and repairs on game consoles.

I havn't actually played the new xbox or the ps4 1 day i might get 1 if i like them,for now there are limited number of games & bugs that will be detected and hopefully fixed in the future,also the price will drop on both consoles.


custom built gaming pc from early 2010,ps2 with 15 games all original,ps3 500gbs with 5 games all original,yamaha amp and 5.1channel surround sound speakers,46inch sony lcd smart tv.

368.4.2014 13:14

xboxdvl2, i've attempted to fix a ps3 slim once for a customer's daughter whose dog peed on the console. corroded the keyboard & keyboard data cable & couldn't find replacements off ebay as this was different from normal ps3 slim.

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