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Here are all the new features coming with Windows 10

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 04 Jun 2015 20:17 User comments (60)

Here are all the new features coming with Windows 10 As we learned earlier this month, Windows 10 is ready for launch on July 29th, a major update to the operating system that will cost most legitimate Windows users nothing to upgrade.
Besides bringing back the Start Menu (thankfully), and adding smaller but important features like quick startup and resume, Windows 10 will introduce some serious updates on the browser and software side. Windows 10 will also be the first of Microsoft's operating systems to be a true ecosystem, one that expands to the Internet of Things, console gaming, tablets, desktops and of course, mobile.



Here's the list, courtesy of Microsoft:


Cortana, the world's first truly personal digital assistant helps you get things done. Cortana learns your preferences to provide relevant recommendations, fast access to information, and important reminders. Interaction is natural and easy via talking or typing. And the Cortana experience works not just on your PC, but can notify and help you on your smartphone too.


Microsoft Edge, is an all-new browser designed to get things done online in new ways, with built-in commenting on the web via typing or inking -- sharing comments, and a reading view that makes reading web sites much faster and easier. With Cortana integrated, Microsoft Edge offers quick results and content based on your interests and preferences. Fast, streamlined and personal, you can focus on just the content that matters to you and actively engage with the web.

Office on Windows: In addition to the Office 2016 full featured desktop suite, Windows 10 users will be able to experience new universal Windows applications for Word, Excel, and PowerPoint, all available separately. These offer a consistent, touch-first experience across a range of devices to increase you productivity. Designed from the ground up to run on Windows 10, you can easily create and edit Word documents, and deliver PowerPoint presentations while annotating on the fly. With new touch-first controls in Excel you can create or update spreadsheets without a keyboard or mouse. You will also be able to enjoy new versions of OneNote and Outlook, which are included with Windows 10 at no additional cost.

Xbox Live and the integrated Xbox App bring new game experiences to Windows 10. Xbox on Windows 10 brings the expansive Xbox Live gaming network to both Windows 10 PCs and tablets. Communicate with your friends on Windows 10 PCs and Xbox One while playing any PC game. You can capture, edit and share your greatest gaming moments with Game DVR, and play new games with friends across devices. You can play games on your PC, streamed directly from your Xbox One console to your Windows 10 tablets or PCs, within your home. Games developed for DirectX 12 in Windows 10 will see improvements in speed, efficiency and graphics capability.


New Photos, Videos, Music, Maps, People, Mail & Calendar apps have updated designs that look and feel familiar from app to app and device to device. You can start something on one device and continue it on another since your content is stored on and synched through OneDrive.

Windows Continuum enables today's best laptops and 2-in-1 devices to elegantly transform from one form factor to the other, enabling smooth transitions of your tablet into a PC, and back. And new Windows phones with Continuum can be connected to a monitor, mouse and physical keyboard to make your phone work like a PC.

Windows Hello, greets you by name and with a smile, letting you log in without a password and providing instant, more secure access to your Windows 10 devices. With Windows Hello, biometric authentication is easy with your face, iris, or finger, providing instant recognition.

Windows Store, with easy install and uninstall of trusted applications, supported by the broadest range of global payment methods.

Microsoft has also promised lifelong security updates.

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60 user comments

15.6.2015 0:53

So.... Mr. Clippy got a sex change.

How about those power user options, id love information on that.


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25.6.2015 2:18

But the reality is that it will still be winBLOWS with all its viruses and spyware. God, how I love my Mac!

35.6.2015 2:53

...which plays amazing games said Noone ever.

45.6.2015 3:40

If I were a gamer, I'd have a Windows computer for ONLY games and use my Mac for everything else. Since I wouldn't actually be visiting any websites except legit sites that might have updates for games, I would heavily reduce the chances of getting viruses and spyware.

55.6.2015 5:25

Originally posted by fb2075:
But the reality is that it will still be winBLOWS with all its viruses and spyware. God, how I love my Mac!
Which you have to pay three times more for and if they ever become popular enough you will see more viruses and spyware for them. That is the only reason they dont have more viruses now isbecause Windows owns the market and the virus makers want to hit the larger population. I so hate the unfounded arrogance of CRAPPLE users.

An eye for an eye will makes us all blind. "Mahatma Ghandi"

65.6.2015 6:24

Originally posted by mugs:
Originally posted by fb2075:
But the reality is that it will still be winBLOWS with all its viruses and spyware. God, how I love my Mac!
Which you have to pay three times more for and if they ever become popular enough you will see more viruses and spyware for them. That is the only reason they dont have more viruses now isbecause Windows owns the market and the virus makers want to hit the larger population. I so hate the unfounded arrogance of CRAPPLE users.

I would agree and they pay through the nose to be arrogant Crapple's, as you put it, plus the very limited market for compatible hardware for their highly Propitiatory systems makes them a deal breaker. If MAC wasn't so expensive and proprietary they would be decent but unfortunately that's not the case.

As to 10 it looks like a good marriage between smartphones and Windows, I can't say everything offered thrills me but it also doesn't put me off like 8 does. With the possibility of running the same apps as my phone I can see some advantages to upgrading from 7, possibly?

75.6.2015 9:01

Originally posted by fb2075:
But the reality is that it will still be winBLOWS with all its viruses and spyware. God, how I love my Mac!
Nothing here but some fairly tedious trolling really.

Windows attracts viruses & spyware makers because almost all the world uses it, that's it in a nutshell.
The fact that Windows is also pretty damned good at withstanding this constant assault (even when users fail to look after themselves properly with updates etc) speaks volumes too.

I've never had an issue with XP. Vista or 7 and I expect 10 to be no different, just the same rock solid & reliable OS that just works with everything....without gouging me at anything like the laughable degree Apple does with its' products.

If I could be bothered I'd have a MAC for Garage Band & that's it.
It has some nice & convenient features.
But as it is there are alternatives out there & they don't think they're entitled to dip their hand in my pocket to anything like same level.
I've simply got more & better things to be spending my money on.

85.6.2015 10:12

but the reality is that it will still be winBLOWS with all its viruses and spyware. God, how I love my Mac!THEN WHAT R U DOING HERE?

95.6.2015 10:13

Originally posted by fb2075:
Since I wouldn't actually be visiting any websites except legit sites that might have updates for games, I would heavily reduce the chances of getting viruses and spyware.
You just summed up Windows.

105.6.2015 10:45

Quote:
You can play games on your PC, streamed directly from your Xbox One console to your Windows 10 tablets or PCs

Son of a.... When they said I could play xbox one games on my pc (a PC with the same architecture as the xbox one but far better specs all around), I figured they would just make up some minimalist emulator that functioned something like DirectX. Instead they make up some crazy remote desktop for games that still requires the purchase of a xbox one, still requires paid xbox live for multiplayer, and still restricts graphics (and presumably still blocks the use of KB/mouse)??? WTF microsoft?

Originally posted by fb2075:
Since I wouldn't actually be visiting any websites except legit sites that might have updates for games, I would heavily reduce the chances of getting viruses and spyware.
Why not just use Linux? Better security, hardware support, and software selection...linux itself is free and can run on the same PC as Windows. It is essentially a better version of a $3000 mac FOR FREE. Then you can use your money for a better use...like wallpapering the house in $20 bills...that would be better than spending it on a mac.

115.6.2015 13:00

Why would they ditch their entire Xbox ecosystem and hardware to support PC only? That goes against the reason they created the Xbox to begin with, because PC gaming and console gaming are not equal.

125.6.2015 13:33

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Quote:
You can play games on your PC, streamed directly from your Xbox One console to your Windows 10 tablets or PCs

Son of a.... When they said I could play xbox one games on my pc (a PC with the same architecture as the xbox one but far better specs all around), I figured they would just make up some minimalist emulator that functioned something like DirectX. Instead they make up some crazy remote desktop for games that still requires the purchase of a xbox one, still requires paid xbox live for multiplayer, and still restricts graphics (and presumably still blocks the use of KB/mouse)??? WTF microsoft?


Keyboard & mouse on a pc using live against users using a controller would give an unfair advantage in online multiplayer type games
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135.6.2015 16:19

isnt Win 10 setup to spy on the VPN user by logging teh IP and sending it as 'Anonymous data' back to the homebase?

145.6.2015 19:43

KillerBug - I read your comment the other day where you implied that Windows 10 would let you play XBox games without an XBox, and I thought "really? Wow, that would be awesome!" You got my hopes up and now they're dashed! :-) lol

But I'm still looking forward to Windows 10. If anything I'm an Android fanboy but I have to admit that MS has been making a lot of good moves since Satya Nadella took over.

155.6.2015 21:15

Android has it's share of viruses and malware and since Android is Linux-based, watch out Linux users. It's only a matter of time before Android malware is ported to the Linux & Mac environment.

As for W10, I got screwed with buying Vista & W7 with their licensing limitations so I'll take a pass on this one.

165.6.2015 21:56

ANYTHING that is popular will be targeted by viruses, Linux and Apple are not immune from such attacks. But the fact that they haven't suffered as much from such attacks just goes to show you their true popularity. Can you say niche crowd. However I must say I'm glad we have those variants, more so Linux, and wish there were more in the crowd to compete as well.

Licensing issues? I'm missing something here? They're not leasing to you I hope and if they aren't how in the world did you get screwed? Unless you bought a system with the builders license and you didn't make a backup. But even then I'd just slap a modified version on your system and say screw you MS.

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175.6.2015 23:20

MS has a limit on the number of machines you can install Windows on which means a limited number of times you can install and reinstall until activation by phone becomes necessary. Suppose your motherboard craps out and you install a new one? Your license key is now useless. I've had this exact experience.

I'll take the F You MS approach as there's plenty of working loaders for W10.

186.6.2015 0:09

Should be interesting to see if my non genuine copy of win 7 gets an upgrade.I'm signed up & ready to go at a moments notice

edit: also ready to go if i hear fbi choppers too

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196.6.2015 1:17

This list is a Regurgitation of the same shit they have been spewing for months.

In the words of Janet Jackson..."What have you done for me lately?"

206.6.2015 1:20

Originally posted by scorpNZ:
Should be interesting to see if my non genuine copy of win 7 gets an upgrade.I'm signed up & ready to go at a moments notice

edit: also ready to go if i hear fbi choppers too
Really? Really???

Please tell me you're running this in some sort of a sandbox because if it's your main gig then you are a loser! Anyone that jacks their primary is truly a bottom-feeder in need of the first available act of desperation.

I'm guessing you're joshin' us though.
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216.6.2015 2:49

Originally posted by fb2075:
But the reality is that it will still be winBLOWS with all its viruses and spyware. God, how I love my Mac!
LOL, you sure are a clueless tech owner. I've seen quite a few viruses on iPads recently. Don't worry, they're coming. Enjoy your locked down platform for now.
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226.6.2015 4:31

Originally posted by ivymike:
MS has a limit on the number of machines you can install Windows on which means a limited number of times you can install and reinstall until activation by phone becomes necessary.
And so what?
You phone them & it gets reactivated.
No big deal.
Never heard of a limit to retail OS installations.
I have had to do it & it's an easy automated process.


Originally posted by ivymike:
Suppose your motherboard craps out and you install a new one? Your license key is now useless. I've had this exact experience.
Like mine did?
My retail OS licence wasn't useless, it was transferred without any problems, automatically over the phone, I just entered the original licence code & got the authentication code in moments, I didn't even need to speak to anyone.
That was my experience.

OEM authentication is a little different - but MS are usually pretty generous about activating them (the net is full of tales of people pleasantly surprised by their approach when they contact them and explain what's happened).

I just don't understand you hostility, maybe that was what created your bad experience in the 1st place?
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236.6.2015 14:50

Originally posted by ivymike:
MS has a limit on the number of machines you can install Windows on which means a limited number of times you can install and reinstall until activation by phone becomes necessary. Suppose your motherboard craps out and you install a new one? Your license key is now useless. I've had this exact experience.

I'll take the F You MS approach as there's plenty of working loaders for W10.
Limited number of installs? I've never had this problem. I've ran my copy of XP on at least 7 different rebuilds without a problem and since using win7 it's been installed on 3 different rebuilds.

Maybe you're using is oem machine like a Dell or HP or something? I could see maybe your key not working with a new, non-oem mobo.

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246.6.2015 15:50

Yes it'll be an OEM version not retail as to why there's a limit.Can also be forced to re-activate when too many hardware changes or even adding more hardware is done.dvd drives,ethernet adapter,hard drives,ram,cpu.Switch out or add any of these & you'll get flagged on the next auto update


256.6.2015 16:10

From personal experience video card and motherboard changes are the most likely to trigger WGA crap.

266.6.2015 16:47

Originally posted by bhetrick:
Originally posted by ivymike:
MS has a limit on the number of machines you can install Windows on which means a limited number of times you can install and reinstall until activation by phone becomes necessary. Suppose your motherboard craps out and you install a new one? Your license key is now useless. I've had this exact experience.

I'll take the F You MS approach as there's plenty of working loaders for W10.
Limited number of installs? I've never had this problem. I've ran my copy of XP on at least 7 different rebuilds without a problem and since using win7 it's been installed on 3 different rebuilds.

Maybe you're using is oem machine like a Dell or HP or something? I could see maybe your key not working with a new, non-oem mobo.


He is running Vista and 7 which isn't the same as XP so your experience is not the same, totally different beast from registration limitations.

It has been stated that it isn't tough to phone in for the automatic activation, it's pretty painless truly, as ridiculous as it is that MS makes you do that just because you've changed your hardware.

276.6.2015 16:47

Originally posted by bhetrick:
Originally posted by ivymike:
MS has a limit on the number of machines you can install Windows on which means a limited number of times you can install and reinstall until activation by phone becomes necessary. Suppose your motherboard craps out and you install a new one? Your license key is now useless. I've had this exact experience.

I'll take the F You MS approach as there's plenty of working loaders for W10.
Limited number of installs? I've never had this problem. I've ran my copy of XP on at least 7 different rebuilds without a problem and since using win7 it's been installed on 3 different rebuilds.

Maybe you're using is oem machine like a Dell or HP or something? I could see maybe your key not working with a new, non-oem mobo.


He is running Vista and 7 which isn't the same as XP so your experience is not the same, totally different beast from registration limitations.

It has been stated that it isn't tough to phone in for the automatic activation, it's pretty painless truly, as ridiculous as it is that MS makes you do that just because you've changed your hardware.

287.6.2015 0:01

Originally posted by ivymike:
Android has it's share of viruses and malware and since Android is Linux-based, watch out Linux users. It's only a matter of time before Android malware is ported to the Linux & Mac environment.

As for W10, I got screwed with buying Vista & W7 with their licensing limitations so I'll take a pass on this one.
OH! I didn't know that Linux was Java programming. Me thinks Java OS will be a tough competitor against Windows. LOL

297.6.2015 0:17

I've had this issue with Vista & W7 NEVER with XP.

Remember the issues Vista had? I wound up reinstalling Vista way too many times because of the problems inherent with the OS and when my board did finally burn out, I had to call MS for a new serial number.

Yes, farly easy tasks but why should I have to do this in the first place???

307.6.2015 11:10

Originally posted by SProdigy:
Why would they ditch their entire Xbox ecosystem and hardware to support PC only? That goes against the reason they created the Xbox to begin with, because PC gaming and console gaming are not equal.

BMWs and KIAs are not equal either...if both were made by the same company, wouldn't it be insane to say that BMWs couldn't drive on roads meant for KIAs? Sure, if you have a 150MPH road for the BMWs, then yeah...no KIAs...but the other way round makes no sense. The only thing the XboX one can do better than a 2-year-old gaming PC is to be physically compact.

Originally posted by scorpNZ:
Keyboard & mouse on a pc using live against users using a controller would give an unfair advantage in online multiplayer type games

After thinking of it, this advantage will certainly be for the PC. Even if KB/Mouse is blocked in settings, and even if the settings are heavily optimized for a stick instead of a mouse, there are already software packages designed to get around this and then output the results through a microcontroller, and into a PS3/PS4/360/One. Modifying it to not need to output to a physical USB port on a console wouldn't be hard at all.


Originally posted by narm050:
KillerBug - I read your comment the other day where you implied that Windows 10 would let you play XBox games without an XBox, and I thought "really? Wow, that would be awesome!" You got my hopes up and now they're dashed! :-) lol

But I'm still looking forward to Windows 10. If anything I'm an Android fanboy but I have to admit that MS has been making a lot of good moves since Satya Nadella took over.
Yeah...my hopes got dashed too. Heck, you can already use a tuner and a teensy to play any console you want on your PC, but you are not really playing it on your PC, only through your PC. Microsoft's early announcements on this matter implied a new feature, not just a change of something that has been available for 10 years and which no one used except for recording videos.

Originally posted by ivymike:
Android has it's share of viruses and malware and since Android is Linux-based, watch out Linux users. It's only a matter of time before Android malware is ported to the Linux & Mac environment.
Android malware is a lot different than Windows malware in that you not only have to manually install it AND agree to give it permissions, but that you can also uninstall it any time you want and just like that it is gone. Even if it manages to make some nasty changes to settings (after you gave it permission to do so), you can just do a factory reset because the actual OS remains untouched. That's a world of difference from malware that can hide on commercial music CDs, self install, and trash your optical drive read capability. While it may not be what you thought you were installing, and it may do damage of various kinds, it is essentially just a standalone program...and such could be created for any system capable of accepting programs.

317.6.2015 19:11

It is still a nice addition to be able to stream via built-in software instead of using capture devices, third-party software, and Teensys/Arduinos/RPis/etc. to hack it in. There is a lot that can go wrong in that approach and it has to be done within USB cable/video cable distance of the console unless more magic is done to stream through a local PC to a remote PC. It sounds like you can use this like Remote Play which is great for gamers on the go with decent internet access.

Android malware can do semi-permanent damage to sys if you are rooted and blindly/accidentally give is su permissions.

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327.6.2015 21:08

@Killerbug
There was a competition in the last year or more where pc gamers went head to head with console gamers on xbox live in a controlled enviro.the console gamers put up a good fight however they were no match simply because of the accuracy & i assume speed of a mouse & keyboard.Both console & pc gamers were heavily vetted to make sure they were upto the task


338.6.2015 17:07

Originally posted by scorpNZ:
@Killerbug
There was a competition in the last year or more where pc gamers went head to head with console gamers on xbox live in a controlled enviro.the console gamers put up a good fight however they were no match simply because of the accuracy & i assume speed of a mouse & keyboard.Both console & pc gamers were heavily vetted to make sure they were upto the task
I don't argue that a controller is equal, just that if someone wants to have better controls (KB/Mouse), they should be able to do so. If that means those players are better, the lobbies will sort it out. All the new games have at least 720P video with 5.1 sound...isn't that allowing for an unfair advantage against those with 480i tv's and stereo sound? Why should controls be any different?


359.6.2015 16:46

Originally posted by ivymike:
but why should I have to do this in the first place???
I imagine it's because of the scope for fraud.
But like you say, hardly the most onerous task anyone ever faced.

Generally speaking I dunno what it is, they are basically giving this OS away for free to millions upon millions of users....and still people whinge about it.


369.6.2015 18:06

I watched the video from Microsoft included in this article.

There is absolutely NOTHING of interest to a serious computer user in the list of features for Windows 10. It is all about gimmicks and games. Nothing is said about the ability of what is ostensibly an operating system to operate a computer and run programs.

In particular, nothing is said about the ability (or lack thereof) of Windows 10 to run legacy software such as pre-bloat (older) versions of MS Office or older programs with 16 bit installers.

379.6.2015 20:07

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Quote:
You can play games on your PC, streamed directly from your Xbox One console to your Windows 10 tablets or PCs

Son of a.... When they said I could play xbox one games on my pc (a PC with the same architecture as the xbox one but far better specs all around), I figured they would just make up some minimalist emulator that functioned something like DirectX. Instead they make up some crazy remote desktop for games that still requires the purchase of a xbox one, still requires paid xbox live for multiplayer, and still restricts graphics (and presumably still blocks the use of KB/mouse)??? WTF microsoft?

Originally posted by fb2075:
Since I wouldn't actually be visiting any websites except legit sites that might have updates for games, I would heavily reduce the chances of getting viruses and spyware.
Why not just use Linux? Better security, hardware support, and software selection...linux itself is free and can run on the same PC as Windows. It is essentially a better version of a $3000 mac FOR FREE. Then you can use your money for a better use...like wallpapering the house in $20 bills...that would be better than spending it on a mac.
After all these years Linux is still not ready for prime time. Linux is a wonderful OS but Joe Sixpack is not interested in configuring their OS. The majority of people these days are lazy. They want to press the, "Go" button and away we go! I can't stand Macs and have never liked them. It's more of a specialty OS for musicians and graphics types.
I've playing the guitar for 50 years. There's plenty of software which is able to replace the incredible expensive, yearly fee laden Pro Tunes at a quarter of the price or supported by shareware donations.
The snob Mac dude posting here is obviously a troll or loves throwing his money away. Apple sheeple love to camp out, stand in long lines for smartphones that are already obsolete. Purchase a fashion statement watch that they still need their iPoop in possession to communicate with their warped world.
I know, "Jeff, tell us how you really feel?" Hah!
I miss my Amiga!
Jeff

Cars, Guitars & Radiation

389.6.2015 20:19

Originally posted by cpviolation:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
Quote:
You can play games on your PC, streamed directly from your Xbox One console to your Windows 10 tablets or PCs

Son of a.... When they said I could play xbox one games on my pc (a PC with the same architecture as the xbox one but far better specs all around), I figured they would just make up some minimalist emulator that functioned something like DirectX. Instead they make up some crazy remote desktop for games that still requires the purchase of a xbox one, still requires paid xbox live for multiplayer, and still restricts graphics (and presumably still blocks the use of KB/mouse)??? WTF microsoft?

Originally posted by fb2075:
Since I wouldn't actually be visiting any websites except legit sites that might have updates for games, I would heavily reduce the chances of getting viruses and spyware.
Why not just use Linux? Better security, hardware support, and software selection...linux itself is free and can run on the same PC as Windows. It is essentially a better version of a $3000 mac FOR FREE. Then you can use your money for a better use...like wallpapering the house in $20 bills...that would be better than spending it on a mac.
After all these years Linux is still not ready for prime time. Linux is a wonderful OS but Joe Sixpack is not interested in configuring their OS. The majority of people these days are lazy. They want to press the, "Go" button and away we go! I can't stand Macs and have never liked them. It's more of a specialty OS for musicians and graphics types.
I've playing the guitar for 50 years. There's plenty of software which is able to replace the incredible expensive, yearly fee laden Pro Tunes at a quarter of the price or supported by shareware donations.
The snob Mac dude posting here is obviously a troll or loves throwing his money away. Apple sheeple love to camp out, stand in long lines for smartphones that are already obsolete. Purchase a fashion statement watch that they still need their iPoop in possession to communicate with their warped world.
I know, "Jeff, tell us how you really feel?" Hah!
I miss my Amiga!
Jeff

I miss my Amiga 1000 too but Linux even for those of us that are willing to spend the time find it very convoluted and poorly supported. I still run into driver support issues and I really don't want to compile every time I need something. However it has gotten better and there are some distro's that are mostly plug and play like Zorin OS.

399.6.2015 20:34

Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by cpviolation:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
Quote:
You can play games on your PC, streamed directly from your Xbox One console to your Windows 10 tablets or PCs

Son of a.... When they said I could play xbox one games on my pc (a PC with the same architecture as the xbox one but far better specs all around), I figured they would just make up some minimalist emulator that functioned something like DirectX. Instead they make up some crazy remote desktop for games that still requires the purchase of a xbox one, still requires paid xbox live for multiplayer, and still restricts graphics (and presumably still blocks the use of KB/mouse)??? WTF microsoft?

Originally posted by fb2075:
Since I wouldn't actually be visiting any websites except legit sites that might have updates for games, I would heavily reduce the chances of getting viruses and spyware.
Why not just use Linux? Better security, hardware support, and software selection...linux itself is free and can run on the same PC as Windows. It is essentially a better version of a $3000 mac FOR FREE. Then you can use your money for a better use...like wallpapering the house in $20 bills...that would be better than spending it on a mac.
After all these years Linux is still not ready for prime time. Linux is a wonderful OS but Joe Sixpack is not interested in configuring their OS. The majority of people these days are lazy. They want to press the, "Go" button and away we go! I can't stand Macs and have never liked them. It's more of a specialty OS for musicians and graphics types.
I've playing the guitar for 50 years. There's plenty of software which is able to replace the incredible expensive, yearly fee laden Pro Tunes at a quarter of the price or supported by shareware donations.
The snob Mac dude posting here is obviously a troll or loves throwing his money away. Apple sheeple love to camp out, stand in long lines for smartphones that are already obsolete. Purchase a fashion statement watch that they still need their iPoop in possession to communicate with their warped world.
I know, "Jeff, tell us how you really feel?" Hah!
I miss my Amiga!
Jeff

I miss my Amiga 1000 too but Linux even for those of us that are willing to spend the time find it very convoluted and poorly supported. I still run into driver support issues and I really don't want to compile every time I need something. However it has gotten better and there are some distro's that are mostly plug and play like Zorin OS.
Linux would be far better/popular if windows programs were ported to it.The most annoying thing is command line/coding knowledge required,that right there is why linux will never compete with windows because windows just works out of the box with practically everything inc hardware.What fucks me off the most is my age,back then computers cost thousands,i think the imac g3 was $8000.00nz i would've loved to have had a comp in my school days along with the net,kids today don't know how dam lucky they are the little toe rags..lol..

409.6.2015 20:47

Originally posted by sandyl:
I watched the video from Microsoft included in this article.

There is absolutely NOTHING of interest to a serious computer user in the list of features for Windows 10.
Sure there isn't.
Not even simply having the most accessible & easy to use OS that simple just works with almost everything out there.
Or with the most up-to-date security?
Or with free support until something like 2026 (although they have said the OS will break with previous models of updating/replacing so who knows how much longer it might go on until)?
Naaa, no reason to even give it a look.

Shame it doesn't cover every legacy possibility out there but hey that's the nature of the beast (& hardly something that only applies to MS I computing, having said that they do a much better job than almost everyone else trying to please most).
But some will insist on refusing to see this.
What can you do?

They even give it away free (to what will probably amount to several hundred million personal & business users) & still some cry & moan over it.
Like it's forced on them.
Downright weird if you ask me.


419.6.2015 21:12

scorpNZ you should try Zorin OS it works right out of the box and comes with Office and some other very nice programs. It is probably the best Linux distro for plug'n'play and it is modeled after Windows 7. You are right though totally about Linux as a whole, I agree!

429.6.2015 22:23

Zorins ok however it's not as stable as i'd like,was using sabayon for a while,at the mo using pclinux OS


439.6.2015 22:50

I haven't had stability issues with Zorin and I've been using PClinux too but wasn't aware of Sabayon I'll try that when I get a chance.

449.6.2015 23:03

Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by cpviolation:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
Quote:
You can play games on your PC, streamed directly from your Xbox One console to your Windows 10 tablets or PCs

Son of a.... When they said I could play xbox one games on my pc (a PC with the same architecture as the xbox one but far better specs all around), I figured they would just make up some minimalist emulator that functioned something like DirectX. Instead they make up some crazy remote desktop for games that still requires the purchase of a xbox one, still requires paid xbox live for multiplayer, and still restricts graphics (and presumably still blocks the use of KB/mouse)??? WTF microsoft?

Originally posted by fb2075:
Since I wouldn't actually be visiting any websites except legit sites that might have updates for games, I would heavily reduce the chances of getting viruses and spyware.
Why not just use Linux? Better security, hardware support, and software selection...linux itself is free and can run on the same PC as Windows. It is essentially a better version of a $3000 mac FOR FREE. Then you can use your money for a better use...like wallpapering the house in $20 bills...that would be better than spending it on a mac.
After all these years Linux is still not ready for prime time. Linux is a wonderful OS but Joe Sixpack is not interested in configuring their OS. The majority of people these days are lazy. They want to press the, "Go" button and away we go! I can't stand Macs and have never liked them. It's more of a specialty OS for musicians and graphics types.
I've playing the guitar for 50 years. There's plenty of software which is able to replace the incredible expensive, yearly fee laden Pro Tunes at a quarter of the price or supported by shareware donations.
The snob Mac dude posting here is obviously a troll or loves throwing his money away. Apple sheeple love to camp out, stand in long lines for smartphones that are already obsolete. Purchase a fashion statement watch that they still need their iPoop in possession to communicate with their warped world.
I know, "Jeff, tell us how you really feel?" Hah!
I miss my Amiga!
Jeff

I miss my Amiga 1000 too but Linux even for those of us that are willing to spend the time find it very convoluted and poorly supported. I still run into driver support issues and I really don't want to compile every time I need something. However it has gotten better and there are some distro's that are mostly plug and play like Zorin OS.
It's quite a task porting Window software. Windows seems to be compiled upside down. Guess MS wanted to make sure porting to a another platform was quite a PITA.
Linux, frustration level is high when I can't find drivers for my Creative SB X-Fi. I really don't want to do it myself.

I will give Zorin a try. I won't keep my hopes up.

I had A500's, A1200's A2000-030 A3000, A3000-040 the butchered A4000 SCSI replaced w\IDE interface Boooo!. SCRAM in the day cost $55.00 a meg. OUCH!
Jeff
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 10 Jun 2015 @ 9:46

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4510.6.2015 3:37

Windows 10 sounds like it will be popular, but I hope everything works well on it. I have a desktop with Windows 7 on it and like everything except the problem with the internet service being dropped after being idle and having problems getting it back. On a laptop with Windows 8.0 everything worked fine, but is strange for me. I upgraded to 8.1 which wasn't worth the upgrade really. They say that I can get version 10 for free, but I would use up my monthly server time just to download it and won't do it. I have had copies of Linux since the 1990's and had problems with getting drivers for my printers and sometimes the monitors. I used OS/2 since version 3.0 since Windows 3.1 crashed too much and me losing information. Most of my computers still have Windows XP which was stable and allowed me to do my work and really don't want to change. vista was the worst version of Windows since Windows 98 and a waste of my money. I hope the new version is as good or better than XP.

4610.6.2015 3:53
4710.6.2015 14:44

Originally posted by scorpNZ:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by cpviolation:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
Quote:
You can play games on your PC, streamed directly from your Xbox One console to your Windows 10 tablets or PCs

Son of a.... When they said I could play xbox one games on my pc (a PC with the same architecture as the xbox one but far better specs all around), I figured they would just make up some minimalist emulator that functioned something like DirectX. Instead they make up some crazy remote desktop for games that still requires the purchase of a xbox one, still requires paid xbox live for multiplayer, and still restricts graphics (and presumably still blocks the use of KB/mouse)??? WTF microsoft?

Originally posted by fb2075:
Since I wouldn't actually be visiting any websites except legit sites that might have updates for games, I would heavily reduce the chances of getting viruses and spyware.
Why not just use Linux? Better security, hardware support, and software selection...linux itself is free and can run on the same PC as Windows. It is essentially a better version of a $3000 mac FOR FREE. Then you can use your money for a better use...like wallpapering the house in $20 bills...that would be better than spending it on a mac.
After all these years Linux is still not ready for prime time. Linux is a wonderful OS but Joe Sixpack is not interested in configuring their OS. The majority of people these days are lazy. They want to press the, "Go" button and away we go! I can't stand Macs and have never liked them. It's more of a specialty OS for musicians and graphics types.
I've playing the guitar for 50 years. There's plenty of software which is able to replace the incredible expensive, yearly fee laden Pro Tunes at a quarter of the price or supported by shareware donations.
The snob Mac dude posting here is obviously a troll or loves throwing his money away. Apple sheeple love to camp out, stand in long lines for smartphones that are already obsolete. Purchase a fashion statement watch that they still need their iPoop in possession to communicate with their warped world.
I know, "Jeff, tell us how you really feel?" Hah!
I miss my Amiga!
Jeff

I miss my Amiga 1000 too but Linux even for those of us that are willing to spend the time find it very convoluted and poorly supported. I still run into driver support issues and I really don't want to compile every time I need something. However it has gotten better and there are some distro's that are mostly plug and play like Zorin OS.
Linux would be far better/popular if windows programs were ported to it.The most annoying thing is command line/coding knowledge required,that right there is why linux will never compete with windows because windows just works out of the box with practically everything inc hardware.What fucks me off the most is my age,back then computers cost thousands,i think the imac g3 was $8000.00nz i would've loved to have had a comp in my school days along with the net,kids today don't know how dam lucky they are the little toe rags..lol..

easy there grandpa :P

4911.6.2015 14:04

what do you expect from kids!

5011.6.2015 17:38

A timeout in way of a one week ban would be good :D


5111.6.2015 17:54

1 week is not long enough, needs to be longer so what do you suggest?

5211.6.2015 19:39

Gotta be careful these days ! he might involve the human rights commission for a cruel & unusual punishment..lol..


5311.6.2015 20:04

of what country?

5411.6.2015 20:25

I think he speaking of Canada? Just guess'n...

5511.6.2015 20:50

UN human rights council is the correct term,that last bit i just grabbed out of my memory from something i read or heard,basically making it up as i go along


5612.6.2015 6:13

scorpNZ that was a fun dig to ddp but I figured that or the US.

5712.6.2015 14:21

we don't always listen to what the un says especially the last few years.

5812.6.2015 20:47

I'm on board with that too.

5912.6.2015 20:58

Great place for has been politicians to go to make a few more bucks before retirement


6012.6.2015 21:45

Also among businesses that they have favored during their terms.

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